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Date:      Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:19:31 -0400
From:      Joe Abley <jabley@automagic.org>
To:        "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>
Cc:        Juha Saarinen <juha@saarinen.org>, 'Andrew Reilly' <areilly@bigpond.net.au>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 127/8 continued
Message-ID:  <20010924161930.R37693@buffoon.automagic.org>
In-Reply-To: <swr8swwe85.8sw@localhost.localdomain>
References:  <20010924160936.A10863@gurney.reilly.home> <00e001c144c8$c33bf900$0a01a8c0@den2> <20010924070102.I4205@buffoon.automagic.org> <swr8swwe85.8sw@localhost.localdomain>

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On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 01:00:58PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> > RFC 1122 does not state that "every possible address within 127/8
> > must be treated as though it is a configured loopback address",
> > and to interpret it as such is bizarre and counter-intuitive.
> 
> Be nice; that's a tough thing to say convincingly, intuitions being what
> they are.

Intuitions being what they are, and my opinion being my opinion :)

> I don't see need for any hack. (None beyond the need to mess with this
> stuff at all. I think this stuff would be better hidden and out of the
> routing table listings, boot scripts, etc.)  Having loopback addresses
> automatically loop back shouldn't suprise anyone.

Right. Having traffic pointed at non-local addresses being treated
as local is surprising, though.

> >   route add 127.0.0.0 -netmask 255.0.0.0 -iface lo0 -blackhole
> 
> I sure don't see how anyone could get that from the "route" man page.

Clearly I am a miracle worker, then :)

> > But, whatever. This is hardly a monumental requirement worth bickering
> > over.
> 
> But apparently worthwhile to Joe, me, and others, if not FreeBSD.  Looks
> to me like a (sometime-counter-productive ;-) attempt to discourage other
> opinions.

I *am* Joe :)


Joe

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