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Date:      Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:04:04 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_shutdown.c 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9912062159300.20503-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <199912070554.VAA00398@mass.cdrom.com>

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On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Mike Smith wrote:

> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Mike Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > msmith      1999/12/06 20:35:37 PST
> > >   Change the default poweroff delay from 0 to 5 seconds.  This seems to be
> > >   adequate for the IDE disks that I have available for testing.  Most seem
> > >   to wait between 1 and 3 seconds before flushing their caches.
> > >   
> > We (whistle) added explicit commands to tell IDE drives to not cache
> > writes..
> > I am not sure how generic they are....
> 
> Or whether they are at all desirable in the general case.
> 
> A "better" fix would be to have the atadisk driver explicitly flush the 
> cache on each drive while it's shutting down.  This is just an expedient 
> stopgap to save us in the meantime.

Softupdates is pointless without this because Soft Updates cannot
guarantee the state of the filesystem to be sane unless the disk does not
lie about whether it has written to the disk. Soft updates also makes all
the writes async, so who cares.. :-)

More precisely, the order of the writes must be absolutly maintained
and disks that buffer writes usually reserve the right to re-order
adjacent writes.

This is basically what we decided was needed in discussion with Kirk to
make Soft Updates safe. (The whole point).

Julian


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