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Date:      Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:37:06 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
Cc:        Zoidberg <dr.zoidberg@telia.com>, "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@attbi.com>, Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: languages
Message-ID:  <3E471052.CB6742DB@mindspring.com>
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Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> "Zoidberg" <dr.zoidberg@telia.com> writes:
> > says who?
> >
> > XML = Extensible Markup Language
> 
> All right, show me where in the XML 1.0 specification the
> interpretation of the following snippet of XML described:


I think DES is saying that it has to have a grammar, not just
a syntax, in order to be a language.  ;^).

FWIW, what XML *really* is turns out to be "data conforming to the
SGML DTD for XML".

And "an invention by IBM engineers to work around not being able
to move data through a hole in a firewall, without six months of
paperwork to get the hole approved".

In practical terms, with the sole exception of the financial
community, who, for any acceptable-to-them data marked up with
XML that DES could post, would be able to point to a standards
body ratified standard for a data dictionary that could be used
to translate the XML into other record formats (for the financial
community, XML is minimally a record format, and occasionally a
file format).


Can we now go on to argue about whether X Servers are "servers"
or not, and whether or not "Internal Revenue Service" is actually
a "service", and whether or not "technical support" is neither
"technical" nor supportive", yet again?

Thanks,
-- Terry

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