From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 31 18:09:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3DC15676C2 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 18:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from vps349.pairvps.com (vps349.pairvps.com [216.92.231.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436968BF24 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 18:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [104.220.39.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vps349.pairvps.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE4CBA54AE; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 14:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: desktop [install- or configur-]ation issues on Dell workstations? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Frank Fenderbender Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 11:09:09 -0700 Reply-To: Frank Fenderbender Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <43760917-5FAA-4C75-A4D2-923A5EA0E624@council124.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 436968BF24 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of frankfenderbender@council124.org designates 216.92.231.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=frankfenderbender@council124.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.65 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[frankfenderbender@council124.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:cegray.mail.pairserver.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mailwash31.pair.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7859, ipnet:216.92.0.0/16, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HEADER_FORGED_MDN(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[council124.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.14)[asn: 7859(-0.62), country: US(-0.07)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.57)[0.570,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 18:09:14 -0000 In terms of platforming FreeBSD, I've decided to stay away from systems = of old, which tend towards issues of compatibility, availability, and = faded support. So, I am trying to fit a computer system to FreeBSD rather than the = usual "other way around".=20 I have a Dell account to work with so I am looking for a Dell = workstation as my FreeBSD platform. There are many ways to configure the hardware and its add-ons so I want = to try to get the "best fit" for FreeBSD desktop, running as both a = development. and compatibility-testing platform. I have seen numerous issues with NVIDIA's graphics, both on Ubuntu and = BSD discussion websites; Dell's selection set is {NVIDIA, AMD}. I'm certain that other issues, of which I hope to learn about = beforehand, can be avoided more or less, from how the FreeBSD = installation and configuration find the platform onto which it will = reside. I am asking for considerations and suggestions that you have = encountered, maybe even with Dell platforms themselves -- for good or = for bad -- so that I can best address them in selecting Dell options = ahead-of-time.=20 I will be developing and testing applications based in python3, pyqt5, = CoreData, and sqlite3. I'd appreciate and value your input. I tentatively have the following system in my Dell "shopping cart" and = want to quell my leeriness with others who have been near similar = installation, configuration, and usage criteria, so that I may modify my = cart's choice(s) before pushing a "buy" button. If anything pops out from the list below as problematic, or if a key = component is missing, I would appreciate your "heads-up". I presumed that it will be easier to clear-and-install on a system with = pre-installed Ubuntu than one with Windows 10, noting that it is = definitely cheaper.... Thanks much for your review, "frank" Precision 3630 Tower - VR Capable = SYSTEM CFG QUERY SYSTEM CFG SELECTION ------------------------------- = ------------------------------------- Precision Workstation T3620 MT Dell Precision Tower 3620 XCTO BASE Processor 7th Gen Intel=C2=AE= Core=E2=84=A2 i7-7700 (Quad Core 3.6GHz, 4.2Ghz Turbo, 8MB, w/ HD = Graphics 630) Operating System Ubuntu Linux 16.04 Microsoft Office No Productivity = Software Chassis Options Dell Precision Tower = 3620 Up to 90% efficient 365W Chassis, v2 Video Card Integrated = Graphics included Memory 16GB 2X8GB DDR4 = 2400MHz UDIMM Non-ECC Systems Management No Out-of-Band Systems = Management Wireless No = Wireless Internal Hard Drive Configuration C2 SATA 3.5, 2 HD HDD Controller Integrated Intel SATA = Controller Boot Hard Drive 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM SATA = Hard Drive 2nd Hard Drive 1TB, 3.5" SATA (7,200 = RPM) Hard Drive 3rd Hard Drive No Additional Hard Drive 4th Hard Drive No Additional Hard Drive 5th Hard Drive No Additional Hard Drive Optical Drive 16x DVD-ROM = drive and 19-in-1 Media Card Reader Hard Drive RAID No RAID Keyboard Dell KB216 Wired = Keyboard English Black Mouse Dell MS116 Wired = Mouse Black Network Card 1Gbit NIC add-in card = (PCIe- Intel) Thunderbolt Card No Thunderbolt Add in = Card Serial Port / PS2 Adapter No Serial Port/PS2 = Adapter Power Cords US Power Cord Placemat Documentation = MUI Resource DVD Dell Precision T3620 = Resource DVD Operating System Recovery Options OS-Windows Media Not Included Energy Star Energy Star Optical Software PowerDVD = Software not included Dell Threat Protection and Endpoint Security Suite=E2=80=8B No Dell = Data Protection | Endpoint Security Suite Software Storage Volume No Raid Configuration = over 2TB Canada Ship Options Non-Canada orders only Packaging Dell Precision = Packaging Driver No Wireless LAN = Card Regulatory Label Tower 3620 = Regulatory Label DAO Documentation / Disks Safety/Environment and = Regulatory Guide (English/French Multi-language) Non-Microsoft Application Software Ubuntu Linux Cables and Dongles Video Cable, = DisplayPort-to-VGA, One VGAConnection, One Adapter UPC Label No UPC Label Hard Drive Software No Intel Technology = enabled Processor Branding = LABEL,INTEL,CI7,7,SML,KBL Stands and Mounts No Stand Hardware Support Services 5 Years ProSupport Plus with = Next Business Day Onsite Service IEEE 1394 No Firewire Card Speakers and Soundbars No External Speaker