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Date:      Wed, 1 Jan 2020 22:23:28 +0100
From:      Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Cc:        "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com>, FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Portmaster failing
Message-ID:  <DFB2B8B8-97DC-4EF3-9F98-338ED971EB01@lastsummer.de>
In-Reply-To: <CAP7rwcjS7jgBXO7kNDEQcOxVhkQjixf-i6S8NyMx2DJk96ZL4w@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Adam,

> On 1. Jan 2020, at 10:18 PM, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:51 PM @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:46, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On 1. Jan 2020, at 9:42 PM, @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> On 01 Jan 2020, at 13:40, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de> =
wrote:
>>>>> security/openssl was removed before, now security/openssl111 has =
become security/openssl.
>>>>=20
>>>> Ugh.
>>>>=20
>>>>> A bit too eager for my taste, but that's why we all have private =
trees, don't we.  ;)
>>>>=20
>>>> This is going to go poorly, if previous attempts to update to 1.1 =
are any indication.
>>>=20
>>> With PHP 5.6 axed prematurely a while back I am interested to see =
OpenSSL 1.0.2
>>> phased out now with a number of ports still not supporting 1.1.1 and =
seeing them
>>> marked as broken sooner or later.
>>=20
>> Well, at this point I cannot install openssl111 without deinstalling =
openssl, which I cannot deinstall since it is gone from ports.
>>=20
>> Looks like I have to remove openssl, which =E2=80=A6 I mean, =
seriously, this seems pretty hostile.
>>=20
>> Name           : openssl
>> Version        : 1.0.2u,1
>> Installed on   : Sun Dec 22 08:13:27 2019 MST
>>=20
>> There was nothing at all on the 22nd about =E2=80=9CWARNING THIS WILL =
BREAK EVERYTHING IN A WEEK=E2=80=9D which to mean seems like it should =
have been made super obvious.
>=20
> This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere.

Let me stop you right here and say: ports Framework itself is
suffering from this wishful attitude and this has nothing to do
with readily available poudriere "replacements" which are not
as good as poudriere for sure.

If the ports framework isn't seen as a stand alone infrastructure
worth its own integrity the discussion is already dead and the
quality will keep to decline for every casual FreeBSD user who
doesn't really care for this or that tool, but wants to install
software from the ports tree manually.


Cheers,
Franco=



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