From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 11:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C4016A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2810443D1D for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:47:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBCJlK3u008267; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:47:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:43:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20031212.124333.73362266.imp@bsdimp.com> To: postfix@sendmail.ru From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200312121910.14245.postfix@sendmail.ru> References: <200312121910.14245.postfix@sendmail.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT state of modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:47:27 -0000 In message: <200312121910.14245.postfix@sendmail.ru> toxa writes: : So my question is loading MANY modules will be as stable (or as unstable) as : putting them into kernel as appropriate devices (or options), or I will found : some problems? My laptop kernel has the following devices in it: ata, sc, atkbdc atkbd, psm, pci, pcib, acpi and the rest it gets from modules I load at boot time (or later). I've been running like this for over two years and have never had a panic related to this (except when I update the kernel w/o the .ko's). Looks like I could go back to using the acpi module. % kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 26 0xc0400000 3206d0 kernel 2 1 0xc0721000 a500 cd9660.ko 3 1 0xc072c000 1e044 if_wi.ko 4 3 0xc074b000 dd20 wlan.ko 5 2 0xc0759000 1a68 rc4.ko 6 2 0xc075b000 ca90 pccard.ko 7 1 0xc0768000 937c snd_maestro3.ko 8 2 0xc0772000 1e388 snd_pcm.ko 9 1 0xc0791000 b51c cbb.ko 10 2 0xc079d000 3b54 exca.ko 11 1 0xc07a1000 66ec cardbus.ko 12 1 0xc07a8000 3548c nfsclient.ko 13 1 0xc07de000 14a6c firewire.ko 14 1 0xc468e000 1b000 nfsserver.ko 15 1 0xc46e1000 22000 usb.ko 16 1 0xc4721000 19000 linux.ko 17 1 0xc4894000 a000 if_xl.ko 18 1 0xc489e000 17000 miibus.ko 19 1 0xc4954000 14000 r128.ko I also load sio as I need it, and ata_pccard which is just the pccard attachment of ata not committed to the tree. I have some devd stuff that is the start of doing the loading on card insertion as well. Warner