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Date:      Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:36:11 -0600
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        spork <spork@super-g.com>
Cc:        Tetsuya Watanabe <tetsuya1@prodigy.net>, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ADSL question after I searched mail archives and still have  questions re DSL
Message-ID:  <37768B3B.6C997C1@softweyr.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.00.9906270258390.23119-100000@super-g.inch.com>

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spork wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
> 
> > Tetsuya Watanabe wrote:
> 
> > FreeBSD doesn't know about the ADSL, it just sees a router.  Your "ADSL
> > modem" is really an ethernet to ATM router, and should answer the DHCP
> > request for you.  Doesn't it?
> 
> Probably not.  I understand most of the cable modems work that way, but
> even the one I've seen still then acts as a DHCP *server* to the PC. 

Precisely what I expected.

> As
> far as cheap-o ADSL services go, they usually give you a bridge (Westell,
> Alcatel) which is a completely dumb piece of hardware that just bridges
> every ethernet frame to the DSLAM and beyond.  If that's the case, then
> you need to listen to whatever some dhcp server behind the ISP's router is
> handing out (the router is likely set up as a DHCP helper).

Ugh.  I'm only familiar with the USWest service, which uses the NetSpeed
(now Cisco) router.  Bridging your entire LAN onto the DSL line seems
like a pessimal solution.

> That's at least how they do it here in Bell Atlantic land...  Another
> thing to note is that somewhere along the line they may be filtering by
> MAC address and they may have forgot to get that info from you.  Here you
> cannot do a thing until they've stuck your MAC address in the switch that
> aggregates all the customers together...

Duh.  And I'll just bet their customer service people are polite and
well-trained, right?

-- 
       "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com


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