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Date:      Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:40:03 +0100
From:      Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com>
To:        Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>
Cc:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: rc.d script to load kernel modules
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On 13 Jun 2011 18:24, "Garrett Cooper" <yanegomi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 13 Jun 2011 17:24, "Julian Elischer" <julian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/12/11 11:20 PM, Daniel Braniss wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/12/2011 1:56 AM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Cutting modules out of the kernel in general does help speed up
booting
> >>>>> but loading those same modules later in the boot process will just
lead
> >>>>> you back to the same boot time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Loading modules via loader.conf is many times slower than doing it
from
> >>>> disk after the system is partially booted. (As in, 2-3 seconds per
> >>>> module vs. nearly instantaneous for all 6.)
> >>>>
> >>>> I didn't offer my list as an example of what to do, I offered it as a
> >>>> syntax example. I would of course expect people to use appropriate
> >>>> discretion to load things in loader.conf that are necessary for boot.
> >>>> (Of course, the fact that people can easily get this wrong is a
strike
> >>>> against the technique.)
> >>>>
> >>>> There is no point in having an _enable for this script because if the
> >>>> kld_list is empty, nothing happens.
> >>>>
> >>> Doug's solution is what we have been using for a very long time!
> >>>
> >>> the loader.conf solution is not practical when it's shared among many
> >>> hosts -like here where most of the hosts are dataless-, so, moving the
> > not
> >>> essential ones to rc.conf was the obvious solution.
> >>
> >>
> >> what would be REALLY cool would be the ability to make loader.conf have
> > some sort of conditional
> >> clauses..
> >>
> >> e.g. if MAC== 01:02:03:04:05:06
> >>          blah
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Isn't it just a shell script?
>
>    The values are eval'ed from Forth-code, not /bin/sh -- so it's not
> a shell script in the way that you're generally used to :).
>    But yes, it could be made conditional.

I was talking about rc.conf.... is that Forth too?

Chris



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