From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 13:50:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0530D149AB82 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 13:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3F3274DBB for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 13:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=f/1xbUpx2GPf97uBxXsE6+IZS/l2pJ0pY+nw+jVsR3w=; b=QZCex0pQosMAmE2E8LOePE/Yd+ OAgmdpmglsWTGlFlITJArg+ciMV573vbJZ2Gfd2zvI6Zzqr30+QQ1MKPPtA/gprxoLqg42gubu2H9 XJ4hP2Mp5cLGI306NFDNDXOwO+JMQIO+R8grzruWHsbI8zPBT+k3qMw2yOqSJa2p/ubk=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gig9r-0002Nn-FS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:50:35 +0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:50:35 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: setting options for a single port in poudriere Message-ID: <20190113135035.GA9148@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 13:50:38 -0000 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, When I want to set some Makefile option for one particular port only, e.g. "CONFIGURE_ENV+=3D foo=3Dbar", can I do this from the global poudriere's /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf ? What would be the correct syntax? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJcO0IrAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0XLIIAI0y7gpM1xI9ss4CGpgqkCRG Mnqu05nzlqiXUKdWangpxrJCOkdK1BPVoxE7hXsE1c1mvjjGIEWXfCxGdCZq+ZG6 aLmvqFvxvQly0U9pMS5mKz/p87s4cS+InIxwdGtxMuaZjkP0eMcovYWtOW7BjF1b hA7pWVSSL6RNvECvgp3YkwFC/sOfc1oJy1beHxUGJYxIhmCw5E1mgGnMbumJ2fSB 2ZfxSsykO2+gJOr2NtfX6g9Zo8f836uniekgH7kZuTbu+EaWn9GYTchM91gu6Af4 rc+b62rSCKJDwtF7RVlb1xxfair71Ht4ZN/fNqqI1yX50U/TyIIFHwuiLsLdghs= =03bD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 10:23:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AB41493B89; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 10:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44EA66E0A1; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 10:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=8z7b6LHGykDeJmEHoQe7Ivkf5hy4SVmyLFPAVBFCFOI=; b=V/bxWgyYdHBtF4H4TU2enkUMWy y4ICmA9Nm2zlrfP/0ubvqK0t3A4z38eIfgeNo1DeevtsDTIUjPrm59cKG27hteVl8kYt6IOSoCw1I J31p5/UBbYHQwlpV9U0HFaotjlPhowUKsTFIaOJGKTRCS0hPE8RKmFGLtsNe4D2FL5AE=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gicva-0001hq-EU; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:23:38 +0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:23:38 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: setting options for a single port in poudriere Message-ID: <20190113102338.GA6449@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 10:23:41 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, When I want to set some Makefile option for one particular port only, e.g. "CONFIGURE_ENV+=3D foo=3Dbar", can I do this from the global poudriere's /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf ? What would be the correct syntax? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJcOxGqAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0YesH/Rbf0FTelGVjNoSCkHFhN/y9 VxEssbp3YxkEbH6Os6jql2eigqSxx0yNgso/nIanbzCsA+hqcwMjnK12kRlGkXzb 7YyEyNlithbtI+irkR+x6+DOO1aNVkyOZH4F/Fumi7Xrqnn8tDrXd8KAa6mnWjae KNIcsQUOmzDBvAsTTF0PONL7FU6Cuga+QUBMq7k5y+Np3pqAs2iyAUiJk5JleN+A aWCLcxXc3ZY5TdFHqNJojPH4Buuhoyhk6oXpkCtF8fLt7jMip7iCzXC3MgO3pEHQ VNuXCbCnyxGbIE0hGxxXVnh9FqLajDFJD47bJrVUwis09ncqFbqIvugyy6itemQ= =XmFs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 16:39:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9AB14A13DF for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (ipq210.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E92C084193 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87A142703; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 01:39:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost-backdoor.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB4631D85; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 01:39:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAD8031D84; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 01:39:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 01:37:43 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190114.013743.1585758485696933407.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting options for a single port in poudriere From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: <20190113102338.GA6449@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20190113102338.GA6449@admin.sibptus.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E92C084193 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:39:28 -0000 From: Victor Sudakov Subject: setting options for a single port in poudriere Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:23:38 +0700 > When I want to set some Makefile option for one particular port only, > e.g. "CONFIGURE_ENV+= foo=bar", can I do this from the global > poudriere's /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf ? > What would be the correct syntax? .if ${.CURDIR:M*/category/portname} CONFIGURE_ENV+= foo=bar .endif --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 13 22:32:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE307148B2A6 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.holgerdanske.com", Issuer "www.holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1645A94A87 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:32:14 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64 "GEOM_ELI: Wrong key for d10s1d" Message-ID: <912d1c3e-8b74-5d69-d824-3656d530ae6e@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:32:14 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:32:17 -0000 freebsd-questions: I have installed FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64 onto a SanDisk Ultra Fit 16 GB USB 3.0 flash drive: Welcome to FreeBSD Boot to Multi User Welcome Install Keymap Selection Continue with default keymap Set Hostname beastie Distribution Selection lib32, ports Partitioning Auto (ZFS) Pool Type/Disks stripe: 1 disk Virtual Device type stripe devices da1 Pool name beastie_zroot Force 4K sectors YES Encrypt Disks YES Partition Scheme MBR (BIOS) Swap Size 2g Mirror Swap NO Encrypt Swap YES Install Root password ************ Network Configuration em0 Configure IPv4 YES Use DHCP NO IP Address 192.168.5.9 Netmask 255.255.255.0 Default Router 192.168.5.1 Configure IPv6 NO Resolver Configutation Search tracy.holgerdanske.com DNS #1 192.168.5.1 DNS #2 CMOS clock set to UTC YES Time Zone Region America -- North and South Country or region United States of America Zone Pacific Year - Month - Day Time Services to start at boot sshd, ntpd, powerd, dumpdev System hardening options clean /tmp on startup Add users YES Username beastie Full name beastie.tracy.holgerdanske.com Uid Login group beastie Invite into other groups wheel Login class default Shell sh Home directory /home/beastie Home directory permissions Use password-based authentication YES Use empty password NO Use a random password No Password ************ Lock out NO Exit Open shell NO Reboot When I boot: GELI Passphrase ************ Welcome to FreeBSD Boot Multi User Enter passphrase for da0s1d What passphrase is FreeBSD asking for? The GELI passphrase does not work (nor does the root password): GEOM_ELI: Wrong key for d10s1d David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 02:00:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8D2148FF9E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: from mail.tridentusa.com (mail.tridentusa.com [96.225.19.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A4886BB7F for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: (qmail 68731 invoked by uid 1002); 14 Jan 2019 02:00:13 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mail.tridentusa.com by smtprelay.tridentusa.com (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.100.2/25295. spamassassin: 3.4.2. 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(jjohnstone@tridentusa.com@192.168.249.6) by mail.tridentusa.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2019 21:00:10 -0500 Subject: Re: OPNsense To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <647ac45684fa13349cb3e3d833e0c405.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: John Johnstone Message-ID: <9c6ca7b7-1518-7297-6d50-625c7eb35c96@tridentusa.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:00:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <647ac45684fa13349cb3e3d833e0c405.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9A4886BB7F X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com designates 96.225.19.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.65)[-0.653,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.932,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tridentusa.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.64)[0.638,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail1.tridentusa.com,mail.tridentusa.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.19.225.96.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:96.225.0.0/17, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.17)[asn: 701(-0.77), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:00:30 -0000 On 1/11/19 4:21 PM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > However, I have a few reservations about the OPNsense appliance even > before I test it. Specifically the apparent lack of any way to > black-hole repetitive logon attempts to various exposed services. > > Does anyone here employ OPNsense as their corporate firewall? What > are the best and worst features of the product? Are there ways to > configure OPNsense to block repetitive initiations of new connections? This question would probably be better someplace specific to OPNsense. Since OPNsense is a fork of pfSense the two are probably similar in their way of configuring rules. In pfSense there are advanced options for a rule where you can configure a maximum number of connections per host within a maximum number of seconds. Firewall > Rules > Edit > Advanced Options This is rate-limiting for TCP connections where only source IP address and destination port are tracked. This won't be effective against botnet / Amazon hosted type attempts where every attempt, or at most just a few, comes from a unique IP address. There are higher level rules in the ET rulesets if you are using them but that's a huge topic all by itself. pfSense has been used here for about 4 years with excellent results. - John J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 02:05:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7560149038E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.holgerdanske.com", Issuer "www.holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9B006BF6E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:55:37 -0800 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64 "GEOM_ELI: Wrong key for d10s1d" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <912d1c3e-8b74-5d69-d824-3656d530ae6e@holgerdanske.com> <92beb8ff-5237-fae1-5e8a-55d33864eb11@gmail.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <58bfed10-9068-0686-e373-060f2d9c1a5d@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:55:36 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <92beb8ff-5237-fae1-5e8a-55d33864eb11@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C9B006BF6E X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.63)[-0.632,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.17)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(2.55), asn: 6939(-3.34), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.31)[-0.307,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.90)[0.897,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:05:42 -0000 On 1/13/19 2:45 PM, Shamim Shahriar wrote: > On 13/01/2019 22:32, David Christensen wrote: >> freebsd-questions: >> >> I have installed FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64 onto a SanDisk Ultra Fit >> 16 GB USB 3.0 flash drive: >> >>       devices *da1 * >> When I boot: >> >>       GELI Passphrase            ************ >>       Welcome to FreeBSD        Boot Multi User >>       Enter passphrase for da0s1d >> >> >> What passphrase is FreeBSD asking for?  The GELI passphrase does not >> work (nor does the root password): >> >>         GEOM_ELI: Wrong key for *d10s1d * > > Hi David > > It appears that you might have other discs in the system, identified as > da0, which is encrypted and that is the passphrase it is asking for. > That would also explain why the installer identified your SanDisk as da1 > (as highlighted above). > > You can check what you have in the system > gpart show da0 > gpart show da1 > > This will show you the partitions of the disks, and maybe help in > figuring out what is happening. > > Hope this helps > Regards Thanks for the reply. :-) Correction: the error message is: GEOM_ELI: Wrong key for da0s1d To reduce confusion, I have wiped the SanDisk Ultra Fit 16 GB USB 3.0 flash drive, disconnected all internal drives except the optical drive, and done a fresh install from CD to the USB flash drive. After entering the GELI passphrase, the machine boots to the "login: " prompt: $ freebsd-version; uname -a 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD beastie 11.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510: Fri Jun 22 04:32:14 UTC 2018 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ gpart show da0 => 63 31266753 da0 MBR (15G) 63 1 - free - (512B) 64 31266752 1 freebsd [active] (15G) $ gpart show da1 gpart: No such geom: da1. So, it appears that I must use CD installation media, not memstick media, when I want to install to a USB flash drive (?). 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 15:22:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C9714A2A0A for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=jajC=PW=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6536C8C2F4 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=jajC=PW=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from mordor.lan (213.219.145.216.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.145.216]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AC591D4FC10 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:22:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:22:46 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd remote logging Message-ID: <20190114152246.GH4293@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kHRd/tpU31Zn62xO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6536C8C2F4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=jajC=PW=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=jajC=PW=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.92 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.12)[0.120,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.bebif.be,mx2.bebif.be]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=jajC=PW=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[216.145.219.213.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=jajC=PW=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 2611(-0.17), country: BE(0.00)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:22:56 -0000 --kHRd/tpU31Zn62xO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have a jail "logging" with the following configuration: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/silenius/a1c4fb1e67d6e62943aa3b7124ffe74= 8/raw/e1f62b55e776958e3a0f8ebee53f38d6c24dd0d1/gistfile1.txt for some unknown reasons nothing gets logged to /var/log/haproxy*.log, although the logs are received. When I'm adding -d flags to syslgod I'm getting the following: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/silenius/f7a813b665a1e0cab848e45a15a336b= 9/raw/5e527aca3482dade02af5588c5b50cfc554a3143/gistfile1.txt any idea what's wrong? I don't understand why the rule is matched/accepted but no "Logging to FILE" happens .. does something changed between 10.3 and 12.0 regarding this ? Thanks, Julien --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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How can I prevent the screen clearing? I want to read the initial messages. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 17:41:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2799E1481891 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BCB46D78E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MQMdz-1gwWNp1AoL-00ML22; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:40:52 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:40:51 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Steven Friedrich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: clearing screen during boot process Message-Id: <20190114184051.4a58ef9e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8763943.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> References: <8763943.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:CNhX9lh1wZLSkKyP9y96Hpnicw45X/QIebXeuxT4RT6JXEbv6Yn VmNAq+jU8IeqBn2rSum+PCiuq3HrmCAqGCiIWjW2E0NKqVBgYikPJr4SqxQ+6DUKjmI7blA 8tPzoAmBlmxa9H0c9ZLbgr3j/9U278mokrL8Ob36JnrVbxIxdeKVb4tosG/SA6Qiz7U7ilg j2G5GrAUyEZKHDu4LEy0Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:DmExYWwA54I=:OoAyzMUFHnEM1+6jkeulT5 WMMRV/wMhqPRicQBylMv3pbldkYokYYHU+4TovknUbnhztHfYdiYtabKqJkqg+bc+Hp5Q62qN jjeZa58Nah4XhwYuvHj0z+Ohxmhw2ebmOI19bdZ3GoQPJF9dYxakmuZp/xoX+w6wXiUlnlg9P sk5BzUZJ/WPqOW2jl7TRR+YLVbNF5Tc0xxnnbCTn3Y0dfzm17HQjx7Q6Izz1ifhQLUqas1Bdp mZsqJUTcX98sjSLZkHYlvv7vtNPkc2pRcZzt8QNg27kmZJlga158Q4vao+/otvUUG7hHq3Vgc Fq8y6zEIGye/LAJITS4CxaoI473fgOekGb4R3aj+3e4em3yQFlut+7DloV46iWFLw01JFjlIB G1woITCBGFINQKGKw7W5rH/2w6khsDMdmnBoTw1o3E/b9ESRFoaTGlTHurSS5jNeJ5sZNoJl1 mpu/8on5YbDKHehHdQx6gmnSbYcHv2NG6P4FJz8jRh7xquH3DWEx9h5l2ZdpZKcWHrG5i8lHr FOKi7w/BVDSb+K9Sa8S56bn/jL/Y8+QocYaV744EJl5kpYMBJl4am38CdSUDzz84Y/vMmm6kz oxbqt/ynPXXElts07iJkWYCnrVnS2Q/8jHG65nJh1txXUKmPS2TmQozQ16TpxILUsxs7cMnJ0 yjr1npuEnfFtjPqSQArW91+01h8iRY82UIDJuENGYktCcCCQ9PRd1409mmBn2ckn6wvEiCiHY m2ilZ7CCpm9jHqzpSciI/8HMuHMn/4wdOhMUMsgr1wrIyAA/QatkgYrWYPM= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6BCB46D78E X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.37 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.68)[0.681,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.31)[0.307,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.971,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(-0.56), asn: 8560(0.66), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:41:03 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:23:46 -0500, Steven Friedrich wrote: > When my system boots, it isues several messages, then clears the screen before > presenting the beastie menu. > > How can I prevent the screen clearing? You probably can't. The reason is that the initial messages ("pre-kernel") are printed during text mode, while the kernel switches to graphics mode (vt) soon. This clears the screen content and replaces the system's text mode output by a graphical output that "mimics" text mode. However, you could try the following: In /boot/loader.conf, set the following: kern.vty="sc" Now you can read the initial messages in text mode (!) by pressing the Scroll Lock key and using the cursor and page keys to move the buffer up to its top where you can read the kernel and "pre-kernel" messages. Keep in mind "startx" (and X in general) won't work with sc anymore, it now _requires_ the use of vt! See "man 4 vt" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Kind Regards, Sophia From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 14 18:40:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B201483618 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-oi1-x22f.google.com (mail-oi1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45F276FD4E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-oi1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id j21so16097oii.8 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:40:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9kkC3cAy4OywCT6FIqnI/HY847tv4hD7H5vsBy4+QNA=; b=JXyIS2G5VyyxCTzerUsU/5TD9lhphgtQrS08IoIMcJ5qCclcDzAOsEstZIhs99NA42 ikszbgvaTU5GUURC8BtIxFqrxls8fxWexkG6cy4vegN23/wmJ9xaz7WVn0TpvM0EfDGU 0ENMWaoTs1aEzf7nzo2EaF/BwHR7G3zTQ4MiY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9kkC3cAy4OywCT6FIqnI/HY847tv4hD7H5vsBy4+QNA=; b=KRFuyvHxI6faYQZs7AHHYMTxfkQbOBcNCJWFhTgF+95NIlIJ24CTP++VXhGD1NvEhP Lwf9j+HoxvxMT1QorwGTqyeeI+uuV4zVKY7NedB2wkr5EAibunbfONObxtyemOgXWHAg 8htdsyPSH4anNbGmc4GrxRX2meAKpfLYNxBqo/sJOxDeb94bhgAVYVmqzASkYMfWQOMs 4j8BFMWZjj8KZktqSOmiKQ7VHMBLOubspExrNxxdzTL2iEB98X9kKxxzJkLiAZ0xq8UE OPd64GOnkOJ9SghaT6O8Zgc2K3nYU76VSSWMZyy50iKI5CA4kVh41G90eU+yAiml4+j4 3Rtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfGWDku1l6cbIPybQfe0QLB2TVNUbVB0WwILrxu528BpStrWtJm bVUUb2drVdOcOhCW9Ac90fWqgvt3foGfgNqpK9lBb00eLB0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4Rj4nmIX+G3m69iKktgWlsBEBNEtMazilhgfx9i8yDxpDVTXzS6Z/8piv9qNKS2xia1j8xqNbB6U5cosILvo4= X-Received: by 2002:aca:c5d2:: with SMTP id v201mr17358036oif.113.1547491226317; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:40:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8763943.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> <20190114184051.4a58ef9e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190114184051.4a58ef9e.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Mario Lobo Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:40:27 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: clearing screen during boot process To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Cc: Steven Friedrich X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 45F276FD4E X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsd.com.br header.s=capeta header.b=JXyIS2G5; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lobo@bsd.com.br designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lobo@bsd.com.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsd.com.br:s=capeta]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsd.com.br]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsd.com.br:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.880,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-2.63)[ip: (-8.99), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.31), asn: 15169(-1.77), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[twc.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:40:30 -0000 Em seg, 14 de jan de 2019 =C3=A0s 14:45, Polytropon escr= eveu: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:23:46 -0500, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > When my system boots, it isues several messages, then clears the screen > before > > presenting the beastie menu. > > > > How can I prevent the screen clearing? > > You probably can't. > > The reason is that the initial messages ("pre-kernel") are > printed during text mode, while the kernel switches to > graphics mode (vt) soon. This clears the screen content > and replaces the system's text mode output by a graphical > output that "mimics" text mode. > > However, you could try the following: In /boot/loader.conf, > set the following: > > kern.vty=3D"sc" > > Now you can read the initial messages in text mode (!) > by pressing the Scroll Lock key and using the cursor > and page keys to move the buffer up to its top where > you can read the kernel and "pre-kernel" messages. > > Keep in mind "startx" (and X in general) won't work with > sc anymore, it now _requires_ the use of vt! > > See "man 4 vt" for details. > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Here is what I have in /boot/loader.conf: # This gives me verbose messages when loading kernel # and modules before beatsie menu load verbose_loading=3D"YES" # This will give me even more verbose messages # that come AFTER beatsie menu, when needed. I leave it commented. # Those can be checked with dmesg # boot_verbose=3D"YES" # This will give me enough time to see the verbose messages # before the screen is cleared for vt and autoboot_delay=3D"5" # This disables the beatsie menu entirely (for day-to-day boots) beastie_disable=3D"YES" kern.vty=3Dvt --=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... 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MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:47:15 -0000 I just upgraded my ports tree, and followed instructions to change the default perl version. Here is my /etc/make.conf: PERL_VERSION=5.28 DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=perl5=5.28 I cannot compile ffmpeg with libmp3lame support. (The default binary version does not include libmp3lame.) # cd /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg # make clean ===>  Cleaning for ffmpeg-3.4.2_1,1 root@shopzeus:/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg # make ===>  ffmpeg-3.4.2_1,1 Invalid perl5 version 5.28. *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg What am I doing wrong? Thanks,    Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 08:58:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B688514A6B34 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x82c.google.com (mail-qt1-x82c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB6AB75810 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x82c.google.com with SMTP id d19so2105097qtq.9 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 00:58:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JqUc5dE5a1SDl2XdUqt1vl/J+ML1dcFRiYeFOuntIBo=; b=pJT24g+N1GkyC1SKyjq9nT29HpUuQjnfq9twBrwLI9GvQisiIHPElplDljtoQFEV1g 4jTzj8eft+KCxvt9WsvOliOXaatWSOS9nxaRw+V1oGmVk/8vFdsaYLyTL4nLRfBA2Cui EMfMeWlUW+9DftCI3M2a7rz0WcaCNAodvrWCHU7i8nCCQ2FaSS5y8EtkiD/Q66S2QW7W V8Z4CEUJWNpBscY4FAxTqo5lThmgNMHKPYtl4d0oXKhruYR0cliBVFxbRW0u0WqEAMoQ axzU71d++nrDauqFZyaYafT9xLWjooDk7acTd3ItfyEzlFWofm9G1hxhNqAcb4iATo8X JA+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JqUc5dE5a1SDl2XdUqt1vl/J+ML1dcFRiYeFOuntIBo=; b=opJJl8/d6dt8O9U3o3e6fdBVqmjt1jDNntvCpMeTP9WWil/8xvL9wf3Cy6jAetyVRK NEMJejjJEuVOTewxRAAl4atxvzzNcFL5gJX/EAkNUBnCKLBeV/1sEZMAAMeEIvDDHgGm Pqgg+vbVUiJJ1+sE+kRN+47HBdFo8cstIPIrylArkDbPHATap88u8sfiUh6wg1aoYIZ5 0B8DwlB7o7v8MBbGPatuiLyCrA5fb/1+/aBlHRRjLzcL+tbdc6dZ74o3hYbjTJqiPCao 7wkUnpoKedEZXRK4QuOP0L+F6Zpw3uBxduzrUZZFAvW/rA2javGXnCJDs295YwwKmjaU qe6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukd7wVnDLzAFbnkid5kopGFBUjxBXhUAm+aB5JVjTxLNoK5Hge2A Ult+cJ1PRK0wb+Xfj9uc2rKONOebXl63jNy6pfM4nvJW X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6UyPK18ZNLQB5AV7hrHgXcash609mQMV/d78Gtm92epCbRK75jVH8lKh0mxmO4ZP5lUbK+SCu3jwg/hAgUkX0= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:48c1:: with SMTP id l1mr2024340qtr.71.1547542688138; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 00:58:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9bf9216d-d27e-e937-313a-fbac374aa000@shopzeus.com> In-Reply-To: <9bf9216d-d27e-e937-313a-fbac374aa000@shopzeus.com> From: "Jack L." Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 00:57:32 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cannot compile ffmpeg from ports To: =?UTF-8?Q?Nagy_L=C3=A1szl=C3=B3_Zsolt?= Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CB6AB75810 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=pJT24g+N; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of xxjack12xx@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=xxjack12xx@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.64 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.65)[ip: (-9.07), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.35), asn: 15169(-1.78), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:58:10 -0000 That port doesn't look like it's up to date, are you sure your /usr/ports are up to date? On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 12:49 AM Nagy L=C3=A1szl=C3=B3 Zsolt wrote: > > > I just upgraded my ports tree, and followed instructions to change the > default perl version. > > Here is my /etc/make.conf: > > PERL_VERSION=3D5.28 > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dperl5=3D5.28 > > I cannot compile ffmpeg with libmp3lame support. (The default binary > version does not include libmp3lame.) > > > # cd /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg > # make clean > =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for ffmpeg-3.4.2_1,1 > root@shopzeus:/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg # make > =3D=3D=3D> ffmpeg-3.4.2_1,1 Invalid perl5 version 5.28. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg > > > What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Laszlo > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 09:13:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699C01481703 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F0F8762A6 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MA7X0-1gYr7t17nu-00BYlH; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:08:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:08:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Nagy =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=E1szl=F3?= Zsolt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot compile ffmpeg from ports Message-Id: <20190115100822.61e812ee.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9bf9216d-d27e-e937-313a-fbac374aa000@shopzeus.com> References: <9bf9216d-d27e-e937-313a-fbac374aa000@shopzeus.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1P5O2KEdVIvOem80rqX6/Pt+W5Ey7AOh52G39Uiqm50ubWbNY3P NHqwlw6Z+jt2JHS1fqjOMxGL2ve4sJpW0mqN3j4C/fk2WBwrMupCkjaOBOsSK1gL/s/PwYg OwEw6zZzukdmRsq4vVdLfKUeYCu5PXFnKA/2XrjV7DwVaZi+0PtRMffocShgiM92ntB9XU+ Sw5XZLtjifyw3ZFzGzfQA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:hnFuf/NXcl8=:SXzKPUTppCQzx76CWTgCJn gXCk+P8BGmwVaEe6t/dyPAI1/+nFrwLRDL7IgfE4sSZFTU+iVOPGl+/BPq0JuNcoLYtVAJaZc mjLdeX+G9GV178leihEmvlP4PLAkk1UvtEui+qndgztTJ2MVrfB05IZfTXk2AgXsqzHSKRLe0 4lxZAUtuAlK6Q1oYDJiPMBOKlyOH7AeJifRofJAG0lg/KP+8Nd0pdfyMBpZrZW6XS/NzLYGFG uUVM76xy2d0lt8B2AwPdumVxS9O2i5xPVXj031yTq29dLpCMRSRrSKyasP017jObtp12eexTk mWNW3S7NF6feaIkao0jYlCWEzbXrxEzbiOgD47d2PCjq/NJwxwkrd42KObdf3q4JwfAVK2OvA fQXHsY4qkX2t09bf/sHwoZgj/JZV1bGaTTXCBTryNWDkccRRqUvp5i5HGbArCIUZb5oztJW2W W5Kx2SFz1w7uxI7RxH6naIkEuxtXIqjYe/5W5H3GNesbBhPWgCRvU6wjWcm0JAjR3mXuQehKB JRa5cDoa2wzSn91FDy+QqMMegOO0zQSalmALDsXstdm2b1B121b1g2ShHNQmaNizS3xlMoi97 /T2kfy3fGtiPoIpnqZLJ6eIJK6W5OpPshn1Tavjxtb/WHwOffKWD8rbhB0MNsp1LjsPGSCzty pFqQ6kR3r3uzC6JTc7gyFXN/kJI3ZpZteqRHNZETa+yF2dBD8iDzooXxltWRwyAXu5HQT411/ 2nFhJTBWD0y02ydSxE5Uz0UuC5zdraw+pQIxe81Aagtvxqm/9HLFC33fB/w= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F0F8762A6 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.22 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.96)[0.959,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[130.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.88)[ip: (4.34), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.61), asn: 8560(0.66), country: DE(-0.01)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:13:46 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:47:04 +0100, Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: > I just upgraded my ports tree, and followed instructions to change the > default perl version. >=20 > Here is my /etc/make.conf: >=20 > PERL_VERSION=3D5.28 > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dperl5=3D5.28 >=20 > I cannot compile ffmpeg with libmp3lame support. (The default binary > version does not include libmp3lame.) >=20 >=20 > # cd /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg > # make clean > =3D=3D=3D>=A0 Cleaning for ffmpeg-3.4.2_1,1 ^^^^^^^^^ Are you sure you have a current ports tree? This version looks a bit outdated. According to freshports.org, the current version of ffmpeg is 4.1_4,1 (as of 2019-01-14 16:16:49). Try to update your /usr/ports tree and try again. ;-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 10:09:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61AF148376A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB98800AC for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from mordor.lan (213.219.145.216.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.145.216]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 222961D4FC18 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:09:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:09:43 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd remote logging Message-ID: <20190115100943.GJ4293@mordor.lan> References: <20190114152246.GH4293@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWOmaDnDlrCGjNh4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190114152246.GH4293@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6CB98800AC X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.28)[0.278,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.bebif.be]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[216.145.219.213.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; IP_SCORE(-0.10)[asn: 2611(-0.49), country: BE(0.00)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:09:49 -0000 --pWOmaDnDlrCGjNh4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 04:22:46PM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a jail "logging" with the following configuration: > https://gist.githubusercontent.com/silenius/a1c4fb1e67d6e62943aa3b7124ffe= 748/raw/e1f62b55e776958e3a0f8ebee53f38d6c24dd0d1/gistfile1.txt >=20 > for some unknown reasons nothing gets logged to /var/log/haproxy*.log, > although the logs are received. >=20 > When I'm adding -d flags to syslgod I'm getting the following: > https://gist.githubusercontent.com/silenius/f7a813b665a1e0cab848e45a15a33= 6b9/raw/5e527aca3482dade02af5588c5b50cfc554a3143/gistfile1.txt >=20 > any idea what's wrong? I don't understand why the rule is > matched/accepted but no "Logging to FILE" happens .. >=20 > does something changed between 10.3 and 12.0 regarding this ? this is really weird, I've tried everything and it doesn't work, is it=20 possible that there is some regression in the 12.0-RELEASE? the same config worked in 10.4-RELEASE. dns and reverse dns work are configured properly, tcpdumping the HOST=20 confirms that packets arrive as expected from the remote host (HAProxy), launching the syslogd in the jail with -d confirms that messages arrive and are parsed by syslogd but... nothing is logged to dedicated files (except the ones from 11:01:25.185982 IP 192.168.10.34.514 > 10.209.1.31.514: SYSLOG local6.error, length: 246) >=20 > Thanks, > Julien >=20 > --=20 > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B124281220 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.968,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.sdf.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.948,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.91)[0.911,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sdf.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[asn: 14361(0.83), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:33:32 -0000 i didn't know what to search for, hence directed this to the list. what is libc exactly? is it the only interface between userland and the kernel? or does libc do something more? if yes, may i know what other functions does libc perform? also, if suppose the userland were to be written in say "rust", would it theoretically be possible to write libc in "rust", and then would it have to be called "librust"? if libc isn't only about "c", why isn't it called libsys? would appreciate pointers to material to read to understand the above in more depth than is possible via email. thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 11:03:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E6B14857F5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC80C82208 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N0nvJ-1hUICq2JRF-00wjsw; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:58:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:58:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: iam@sdf.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is libc? 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The libc, "C standard library", is the system's default C library. It provides "wrappers" for kernel calls as well as extended functions specified by the C standard. It serves as the common programming interface for application development. Among the "wrappers", it also contains standardized (!) functions for string handling, error reporting, signal handling, or tools to deal with date and time. The behaviour of those functions is specified by the C language standard, which makes it a portable thing. > also, if suppose the userland were to be written in say "rust", > would it theoretically be possible to write libc in "rust", and > then would it have to be called "librust"? That is probably possible. A "Rust standard library", if it wanted to mimic what libc provides, would have to implement the content and functionality of libc in Rust, providing the appropriate interfaces for that particular language. > if libc isn't only about "c", why isn't it called libsys? Because it contains what the _C_ language standard specifies. However, you _can_ interface it from a different language and call its functions, but that doesn't change the fact of its nature and heritage. :-) > would > appreciate pointers to material to read to understand the above > in more depth than is possible via email. You can find a general description here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_standard_library https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C_Programming/Standard_libraries -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 12:20:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D291488AC3 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9576884DF9 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from mordor.lan (213.219.145.216.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.145.216]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB73B1D4FC18 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:20:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:20:29 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd remote logging Message-ID: <20190115122029.GK4293@mordor.lan> References: <20190114152246.GH4293@mordor.lan> <20190115100943.GJ4293@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4wkndigzIeYF6Hbg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190115100943.GJ4293@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9576884DF9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.bebif.be]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.13)[-0.132,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[216.145.219.213.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=Sx/a=PX=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; IP_SCORE(-0.16)[asn: 2611(-0.79), country: BE(0.00)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:20:33 -0000 --4wkndigzIeYF6Hbg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:09:43AM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 04:22:46PM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > > Hello, > >=20 > > I have a jail "logging" with the following configuration: > > https://gist.githubusercontent.com/silenius/a1c4fb1e67d6e62943aa3b7124f= fe748/raw/e1f62b55e776958e3a0f8ebee53f38d6c24dd0d1/gistfile1.txt > >=20 > > for some unknown reasons nothing gets logged to /var/log/haproxy*.log, > > although the logs are received. > >=20 > > When I'm adding -d flags to syslgod I'm getting the following: > > https://gist.githubusercontent.com/silenius/f7a813b665a1e0cab848e45a15a= 336b9/raw/5e527aca3482dade02af5588c5b50cfc554a3143/gistfile1.txt > >=20 > > any idea what's wrong? I don't understand why the rule is > > matched/accepted but no "Logging to FILE" happens .. > >=20 > > does something changed between 10.3 and 12.0 regarding this ? >=20 > this is really weird, I've tried everything and it doesn't work, is it=20 > possible that there is some regression in the 12.0-RELEASE? the same > config worked in 10.4-RELEASE. >=20 > dns and reverse dns work are configured properly, tcpdumping the HOST=20 > confirms that packets arrive as expected from the remote host (HAProxy), > launching the syslogd in the jail with -d confirms that messages arrive > and are parsed by syslogd but... nothing is logged to dedicated files > (except the ones from 11:01:25.185982 IP 192.168.10.34.514 > > 10.209.1.31.514: SYSLOG local6.error, length: 246) FYI I finally found the problem, see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D234968#c1 >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Julien > >=20 > > --=20 > > Julien Cigar > > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --4wkndigzIeYF6Hbg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEE7vn2l0to0nV7EWolsrs3EKIEI8AFAlw90AkACgkQsrs3EKIE I8DYSg/+NBUcGPnYRLymKG9O5on1jER9Eg64JbTxi1ZxqMS8ynl3JzasREpSNB4F rjULBZJccnVoeCRICaGZB9tKoVdndkLpGUMMi1ziGgMLldZDuJl3R3/N/Zq61QSH mUqnLDBBPkFp3zK3VEfAxTWg9uk2fIHQnD2TBLhF1Zwje2TLQnJU2DifM4lnF7ce MlwTkZNsws88Wwrxk8HsLVAYQWEP2oD8LVB+Q2QEUKJ5DsG/Rr5AsXR64938hvKZ cqo6/nxBamG0DOAMIqQV6e+qx/RU6bUDwT0RB1wGy1kjRvBfyw70xhOSlKzYJVKQ Nrp7CJ03mUEkC6UaxTPlyfSEg9IiCTnrO1aVsPeYB/UdPu7xFT2MZyWFzitJ1V39 n4P6GPHoJld+R4dpZY6xlJeb6YVsdi7K+V9MCFd0oELibvp6CUgbUurZSrsuNGjp PW34aXvatbFwqFRjFLw6Vij4+GcYUZm9mqLZeFwkaWFt4Mkkg54CLL+Op2s6gJDv wi/zvwZ3Xl1ddm1RQzD5OKP4+421TbMqfvV/pFi2utc7Uw0O/YAr82T2OXLBMu0n ys4pQA5j5TYyjr4TOxXEXrOyFw6k54LODsEHefQ+3p0Gu+R0XAhQF7J3fw8XQ0bV eLWM8ZSPvfthRzHW+TledhVmGFEv7W2nhETFQnS/9BpjmkjBXuE= =y0zo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4wkndigzIeYF6Hbg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 12:24:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1EC1488E43 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@sdf.org) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6A1B85464 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:iam@sdf.lonestar.org [205.166.94.16]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id x0FCOHp1029440 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:24:17 GMT Received: (from iam@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id x0FCOHbM016508 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:24:17 GMT Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:24:17 GMT From: iam@sdf.org Message-Id: <201901151224.x0FCOHbM016508@sdf.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: if userland in asm, no need for libc? X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C6A1B85464 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.93)[0.929,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.sdf.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.947,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.91)[0.910,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sdf.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[asn: 14361(0.82), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:24:31 -0000 in continuum to my previous mail about libc; if the whole of userland and various other toolkits were written in assembly language, would there be no need for libc, that is if "c" were not needed to be supported at all? do assembly language programs have the capacity to make kernel calls directly? i.e., without going through any libraries? pardon my naive questions, i don't have a background in computer science nor enough self-training. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 12:30:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1102C1489186 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ole@free.de) Received: from smtp.free.de (smtp.free.de [91.204.6.103]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF97685711 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ole@free.de) Received: from bard (x5d85876b.dyn.telefonica.de [93.133.135.107]) by smtp.free.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 323B31EF22 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:30:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:30:07 +0100 From: Ole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting options for a single port in poudriere Message-ID: <20190115133007.779929ef.ole@free.de> In-Reply-To: <20190113135035.GA9148@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20190113135035.GA9148@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/NtDBajvl.jfqSHjc3_JvCQZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DF97685711 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ole@free.de designates 91.204.6.103 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ole@free.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[free.de]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[pop.free.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.63)[-0.627,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[103.6.204.91.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[107.135.133.93.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31371, ipnet:91.204.4.0/22, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:30:37 -0000 --Sig_/NtDBajvl.jfqSHjc3_JvCQZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:50:35 +0700 - Victor Sudakov : > Dear Colleagues, >=20 > When I want to set some Makefile option for one particular port only, > e.g. "CONFIGURE_ENV+=3D foo=3Dbar", can I do this from the global > poudriere's /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/-make.conf ? > What would be the correct syntax? >=20 like this: root@pkg:/usr/local/etc/poudriere.d # cat freebsd:11:x86:64-make.conf=20 WITH_PKGNG=3D"yes" OPTIONS_UNSET+=3D NLS OPTIONS_UNSET+=3D X11 OPTIONS_UNSET+=3D HAL DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3D pgsql=3D9.6 DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3D ssl=3Dopenssl DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3D python=3D3.6 OPTIONS_UNSET+=3D GSSAPI_BASE GSSAPI_NONE OPTIONS_SET+=3D GSSAPI_MIT # Ports emulators_virtualbox-ose_X11_CONFIGURE_OFF=3D"yes" emulators_virtualbox-ose_UNSET+=3D QT5 security_openvpn_SET +=3D PKCS11 security_sudo_UNSET+=3D GSSAPI_MIT --Sig_/NtDBajvl.jfqSHjc3_JvCQZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE60BGd7KVfL83NXCUJZaRRqjklFAFAlw90lAACgkQJZaRRqjk lFC88xAAi7xiR+StZExFvECSiSKNN0sDxHJ4DCzeIHZ0BeDHskHHHh7pO9QC1i6O CncBfOlISthYQKBX7K9Z8QA7tmszDgzm6U3OBvvdnA1WOjcR7UuO19sefMJq3OiH sgsVtjafll9xLotJRfu4cImBcBW8RdQMP+VNp6PcXiNMx/eoUNrV0/UiZa4spyVz 59BtBz//ZajqHTnVgkMGDRSGUKRl1CHU5/Kt+TKuOQbe1iswBZFrfwU/sgpKBXsi fP4asdc8JiaKGkOdbvnAKX9VtGAHBipxCnuzr3uxdZjIwnWdjsAeWCvru2b48Ff9 57WTygeKBf7V99u8MtJszo/AsJp5oKLUAgRrD4SOfPfdyBISmstGNEEQSncHU/TK ZdYrKYTFi2ReE57A65CQN+JGIOMepHW6rgN2Uot3G9JjE5KG1asZjSfhNneL5mOt MK/owwazF45b4kHShUJYkSxBl7ZOGmix9gQoNKJhjrVZXxBatfrDkDL7ifauTxua T4pBJc6+paQ+hfAPOSBF6/IahMQ5jAKMrZfiZBiZX+AhFVhJZjcC/VjgmLYHSiVb S4Lak8IIRVbXILvHz510nWoi5LiU8LTk5uaHo9Y9RY5h9fQoct5Vc0kk6esYlxXV 6Yb3XDPoF6SoFM8xro8pEFz+SrpcuKefaGOi5BWHU0ZM6mYoWVw= =cGFI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/NtDBajvl.jfqSHjc3_JvCQZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 12:42:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBEF14897AD for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 827E585F21 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1547556138; x=1550148138; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=SmpN+0nrIct462nif8kqB+UFIeRmOeJV4EsGyYe7Sks=; b=o67M27/KJp/lEJ5tZbygXpDDpXs8ITzmKl7oft5RzsqZG0yJmODKd0CrkpCY+MM9G1AQplO4JVgctHDLp+ye5iLJF5q3+/eS0qWFNYT7ELPY255dSZQT5TReN1yUTDfH0oST2FKnyxLWmTUwzYVSzn4SXQxtLA8Yapagic49sKc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTMwMDAwMDA2ZTExMDMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.165.229.15]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:42:06 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:42:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gjN6a-000MJH-2I; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:42:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:42:03 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: iam@sdf.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is libc? Message-Id: <20190115114203.be3a720eca52bd5970b8541d@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <201901151033.x0FAXCeg027256@sdf.org> References: <201901151033.x0FAXCeg027256@sdf.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 827E585F21 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=o67M27/K; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.72 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.57), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.28), asn: 7381(-0.22), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.47)[0.470,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.985,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:42:19 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:33:12 GMT iam@sdf.org wrote: > also, if suppose the userland were to be written in say "rust", > would it theoretically be possible to write libc in "rust", and > then would it have to be called "librust"? Just to extend Polytropon's excellent response a little. The lowest level interface to the system in any kind of Unix is the kernel interface. It is possible to create a higher level interface analogous but not necessarily compatible in any way with libc in any language which is capable of implementing the kernel interface. I don't know of any examples though, it is far easier and more portable to sit on top of the documented and system independent standards implemented in libc than to sit directly on top of the kernel interface which is unique to each implementation in at least some aspects. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 12:51:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD16148A13F for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7D2C86463 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MvsMz-1hZ9HU3EJD-00suTx; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:46:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:46:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: iam@sdf.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if userland in asm, no need for libc? 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Even a userland written in assembly _could_ interface with the C library, i. e., call functions that are defined in there. For this kind of interfacing, it doesn't really matter which language has been used to create the library. Keep in mind libc is "just a library", which is an archive of object code (machine code "snippets"). Given a specific calling convention, even assembly language can make use of it. However, to come back to your initial question: It would be possible to implement userland programs on the basis of kernel interfaces and system calls, not using libc at all. But that implies you'd have to implement a lot (!) of functionality yourself. Remember strcmp(), or fopen(), or signal()? All those facilities wouldn't be available. Now you could say: Well, I create a library myself with all those "subroutines" I permanently need to use. So what would you end up with? With a libc equivalent. ;-) > do assembly language programs have the capacity to make kernel > calls directly? i.e., without going through any libraries? Of course. There is a specific calling convetion that will enable you to perform system calls, and this is a common way to "relay" work to the kernel. The exact way to do this of course depends on the OS, and it is different between FreeBSD and Linux (e. g., "int 80h" vs. "syscall"), which makes this kind of programming nonportable. Early stages of the boot process as well as device drivers, being developed for _one_ OS in particular, don't have to care for being that portable... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 12:58:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2AF148A4ED for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail1.protonmail.ch (mail1.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA4658693A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:58:20 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: if userland in asm, no need for libc? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201901151224.x0FCOHbM016508@sdf.org> References: <201901151224.x0FCOHbM016508@sdf.org> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BA4658693A X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.67 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[phascolarctos@protonmail.ch]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mailsec.protonmail.ch,mail.protonmail.ch]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.ch:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.ch,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.958,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[18.40.70.185.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19905, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[protonmail.ch.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.ch:s=default]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.60)[ip: (-9.12), ipnet: 185.70.40.0/24(-4.89), asn: 19905(-3.91), country: US(-0.08)]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:58:36 -0000 > in continuum to my previous mail about libc; > if the whole of userland and various other toolkits were written > in assembly language, would there be no need for libc, that is > if "c" were not needed to be supported at all? > do assembly language programs have the capacity to make kernel > calls directly? i.e., without going through any libraries? > pardon my naive questions, i don't have a background in computer > science nor enough self-training. Yes, you can make kernel calls directly. See here for example: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/x86-system-calls.h= tml Still, I discourage you from using Assembly too much: it is not easy to wri= te in Assembly, don't use it if you can do what you want to do in a higher lev= el language. You should rather use Assembly only for low level interaction wit= h hardware or to optimize code when compilers do not already optimize enough for your tastes/needs. Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 16:38:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A12148FB9C for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (mail.inhio.net [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83958E164 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from titanio (titanio.inhio.net [10.0.0.21]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 032A98EEA for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:38:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <84a3d2e071d6651e7e15afccdf29b9e0970fb056.camel@inhio.net> Subject: ZFS devouring RAM in less than 2 days on FBSD 11.2 From: ASV To: questions list Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:38:36 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-MtvFGHlgZ5gzuxUzeaph" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D83958E164 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asv@inhio.net designates 178.238.36.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asv@inhio.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.48)[0.483,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inhio.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: CZ(0.04)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.inhio.net]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24971, ipnet:178.238.32.0/20, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:38:51 -0000 --=-MtvFGHlgZ5gzuxUzeaph Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've upgraded to FreeBSD 11.2 (11.2-RELEASE-p8 at present time) and I've set the following parameters, the latter manually lowered to try to limitate the memory devouring process, unsuccessfully: vfs.zfs.arc_min: 1342177280 vfs.zfs.arc_max: 10737418240 my old server has 16GB of RAM and after less than 2 days 14GB are already wired. It seems to me that ZFS ignores completely the 'arc_max' parameter. Anybody is experiencing the same? --=-MtvFGHlgZ5gzuxUzeaph Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEE5dE8BwbhhcQw2TsezaQsUNd+zIkFAlw+DIwACgkQzaQsUNd+ zImLpgf/TkB6Gm5nSuYXBdoGpR5Pbg0D18CoR2/a0FdEF92rUk4oiYN/DoKk+wUw i/TuPw11BDjwwQ69QE1gLT0UHqDf5PNFUUrbd/d4e2jEAFdDVajYTCOHs/nT/fqX fbcTzzQCOUb73VBLHRY8VVnHvov8mEKin80c8h15RLg1ZHMWEPQ2n7IJ1oiy1l09 WRkwEgUStT+2p+ORhowU6bxMCADkzp/t6KxSgcYDFlVNzx1FM+fZmsENEy5nz/DS QirVTSnNz8uhv42AMVMDCLpVHBQaNHGAN0tjho6aEy1iZNabf3MDGQFD2KccPo28 4sGxtTsMF7LftMo1wcGzShSySmnWJg== =pLBx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-MtvFGHlgZ5gzuxUzeaph-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 17:26:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31851490C33 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4768FD38 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43fHM12PLSz1ftYs for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:26:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermex.mcs.it (unknown [192.168.132.214]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43fHM11f4dz1ftYp for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:26:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermex.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF18659427 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:26:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:26:36 +0100 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS devouring RAM in less than 2 days on FBSD 11.2 In-Reply-To: <84a3d2e071d6651e7e15afccdf29b9e0970fb056.camel@inhio.net> References: <84a3d2e071d6651e7e15afccdf29b9e0970fb056.camel@inhio.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <43fHM11f4dz1ftYp@baobab.bilink.it> X-Virus-Scanned: PippoLillo, ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7B4768FD38 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luciano@vespaperitivo.it designates 212.45.144.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luciano@vespaperitivo.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.905,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.45.144.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.877,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vespaperitivo.it]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.30)[0.300,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[baobab.bilink.it]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.144.45.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8816, ipnet:212.45.128.0/19, country:IT]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: IT(0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:26:47 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:38:36 +0100 ASV wrote: > my old server has 16GB of RAM and after less than 2 days 14GB are > already wired. It seems to me that ZFS ignores completely the 'arc_max' > parameter. > > Anybody is experiencing the same? No. After lowering the zfs.arc everything appears fine. Here are my parameters: vfs.zfs.arc_min: 536870912 vfs.zfs.arc_max: 1073741824 root@hermes:~ # uptime 6:22PM up 6 days, 3:51, 2 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.12, 0.11 root@hermes:~ # top Mem: 108M Active, 9934M Inact, 7570M Wired, 1565M Buf, 14G Free ARC: 2214M Total, 838M MFU, 1099M MRU, 32K Anon, 6073K Header, 272M Other 873M Compressed, 1064M Uncompressed, 1.22:1 Ratio Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free My version is still 11.2-RELEASE-p7. I don't think it makes a big difference... Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 21:01:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2871E1496409 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from pyroxene.sentex.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:3::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "pyroxene.sentex.ca", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D79F713F3; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] ([192.168.43.26]) by pyroxene.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0FL1gi8007769; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:01:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) To: freebsd-questions From: Mike Tancsa Subject: storcli and mrsas Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=mike@sentex.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBEzcA24BCACpwI/iqOrs0GfQSfhA1v6Z8AcXVeGsRyKEKUpxoOYxXWc2z3vndbYlIP6E YJeifzKhS/9E+VjhhICaepLHfw865TDTUPr5D0Ed+edSsKjlnDtb6hfNJC00P7eoiuvi85TW F/gAxRY269A5d856bYrzLbkWp2lKUR3Bg6NnORtflGzx9ZWAltZbjYjjRqegPv0EQNYcHqWo eRpXilEo1ahT6nmOU8V7yEvT2j4wlLcQ6qg7w+N/vcBvyd/weiwHU+vTQ9mT61x5/wUrQhdw 2gJHeQXeDGMJV49RT2EEz+QVxaf477eyWsdQzPVjAKRMT3BVdK8WvpYAEfBAbXmkboOxABEB AAG0HG1pa2UgdGFuY3NhIDxtaWtlQHNlbnRleC5jYT6JATgEEwECACIFAkzcA24CGwMGCwkI BwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJXHwM2kc8rX+sMH/2V6pTBKsQ5mpWWLgs6wVP2k BC+6r/YKNXv9Rw/PrC6+9hTbgA+sSjJ+8gxsCbJsOQXZrxF0x3l9oYdYfuKcwdwXFX1/FS8p HfBeDkmlH+dI709xT9wgrR4dS5aMmKp0scPrXPIAKiYVOHjOlNItcLYTEEWEFBepheEVsgmk GrNbcrHwOx/u4igUQ8vcpyXPyUki+BsftPw8ZQvBU887igh0OxaCR8AurJppQ5UQd63r81cX E1ZjoFoWCaGK/SjPb/OhpYpu5swoZIhOxQbn7OtakYPsDd5t2A5KhvjI8BMTnd5Go+2xsCmr jlIEq8Bi29gCcfQUvNiClevi13ifmnm5AQ0ETNwDbgEIALWGNJHRAhpd0A4vtd3G0oRqMBcM FGThQr3qORmEBTPPEomTdBaHcn+Xl+3YUvTBD/67/mutWBwgp2R5gQOSqcM7axvgMSHbKqBL 9sd1LsLw0UT2O5AYxv3EwzhG84pwRg3XcUqvWA4lA8tIj/1q4Jzi5qOkg1zxq4W9qr9oiYK5 bBR638JUvr3eHMaz/Nz+sDVFgwHmXZj3M6aE5Ce9reCGbvrae7H5D5PPvtT3r22X8SqfVAiO TFKedCf/6jbSOedPN931FJQYopj9P6b3m0nI3ZiCDVSqeyOAIBLzm+RBUIU3brzoxDhYR8pz CJc2sK8l6YjqivPakrD86bFDff8AEQEAAYkBHwQYAQIACQUCTNwDbgIbDAAKCRCVx8DNpHPK 1+iQB/99aqNtez9ZTBWELj269La8ntuRx6gCpzfPXfn6SDIfTItDxTh1hrdRVP5QNGGF5wus N4EMwXouskva1hbFX3Pv72csYSxxEJXjW16oV8WK4KjKXoskLg2RyRP4uXqL7Mp2ezNtVY5F 9nu3fj4ydpHCSaqKy5xd70A8D50PfZsFgkrsa5gdQhPiGGEdxhq/XSeAAnZ4uVLJKarH+mj5 MEhgZPEBWkGrbDZpezl9qbFcUem/uT9x8FYT/JIztMVh9qDcdP5tzANW5J7nvgXjska+VFGY ryZK4SPDczh74mn6GI/+RBi7OUzXXPgpPBrhS5FByjwCqjjsSpTjTds+NGIY Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <98aed9cd-9088-f16a-dc5f-aa7241b10e9f@sentex.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:01:40 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8D79F713F3 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mike@sentex.net designates 2607:f3e0:0:3::18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mike@sentex.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RDNS_NONE(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.952,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f3e0::/32]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sentex.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.75)[ipnet: 2607:f3e0::/32(-4.95), asn: 11647(-3.68), country: CA(-0.09)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[smtp.sentex.ca]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.30)[-0.296,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.945,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11647, ipnet:2607:f3e0::/32, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ...] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:01:56 -0000 I have been trying a new LSI controller (9272) in JBOD mode for zfs and so far it seems to work well.=C2=A0 One issue (cosmetic?) I have found is= that as I execute commands from storcli, I get a bunch of warning/error? messages to dmesg mrsas0: pci bus no: 31,pci device no: 0, pci function no: 0,pci domain ID= : 0 mrsas0: pci bus no: 31,pci device no: 0, pci function no: 0,pci domain ID= : 0 mrsas0: pci bus no: 31,pci device no: 0, pci function no: 0,pci domain ID= : 0 mrsas0: pci bus no: 31,pci device no: 0, pci function no: 0,pci domain ID= : 0 mrsas0: pci bus no: 31,pci device no: 0, pci function no: 0,pci domain ID= : 0 mrsas0: pci bus no: 31,pci device no: 0, pci function no: 0,pci domain ID= : 0 mrsas0: pci bus no: 31,pci device no: 0, pci function no: 0,pci domain ID= : 0 The commands seem to complete OK.=C2=A0 Also, does anyone know if the 927= 2 is the same as the 9271 ? Should I update to the latest BIOS before doing more testing ? =C2=A0# pciconf -lvcb mrsas0 mrsas0@pci0:31:0:0:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 class=3D0x010400 card=3D0x927= 21000 chip=3D0x005b1000 rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 vendor=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 'LSI Logic / Symbio= s Logic' =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 device=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 'MegaRAID SAS 2208 = [Thunderbolt]' =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 class=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D mass storage =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 subclass=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D RAID Basics : =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Controller =3D 0 Model =3D LSI MegaRAID SAS 9272-8i Serial Number =3D SV41832837 Current Controller Date/Time =3D 01/15/2019, 15:13:03 Current System Date/time =3D 01/15/2019, 15:13:02 SAS Address =3D 500605b008d84580 PCI Address =3D 00:1f:00:00 Mfg Date =3D 05/03/14 Rework Date =3D 00/00/00 Revision No =3D 11B Version : =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Firmware Package Build =3D 23.2.1-0065 Firmware Version =3D 3.152.185-3520 Bios Version =3D 5.38.00.1_4.12.05.00_0x05210000 WebBIOS Version =3D 6.1-33-e_33-Rel Preboot CLI Version =3D 05.01-10:#%00001 NVDATA Version =3D 2.1108.03-0101 Boot Block Version =3D 2.05.00.00-0010 Bootloader Version =3D 07.26.26.219 Driver Name =3D mrsas Driver Version =3D 07.709.01.00-fbsd --=20 ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 21:48:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE0A1497E42 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8363974D59 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.7] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id jWZVgcyYaWnTijWZXgLXlt; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:48:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:48:33 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ZFS for raid Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMpJgTnCa33gZrcsQSuS10ZAbgOrz9Z7eZpJtDLYcF4qKPIP0r7u5KFKKOMlhqw+X1D5jX8PsQJYjZm87QIO0Gb09bTu2xWunlHvtONop7o45kmQG3sx rnXzOUz3eEmCRpTjEcYi8GqrFFOsxAiCNZjKlSREQq93kQuZNbmcfRNrJHHtEMPxmR5tIffcXtjbcg== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8363974D59 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.39 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.50)[ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-4.13), asn: 7843(-3.31), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com,dnvrco-cmedge02.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.58)[-0.575,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[230.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:48:46 -0000 I read here recently that zfs can be used for raid. I'm a neophyte when it comes to zfs, but I'm thinking about using it for the next server I get. If you're going to setup drives with zfs for raid, do you need a hardware controller? My impression is that you don't, but I want to know for sure before I order a server. If there's no raid controller, can you setup raid using zfs during the OS install? If you boot from the cd/dvd, do you get the option to configure raid using zfs? Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 21:54:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B37114981AE for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wallbridge@blur.com) Received: from mail-it1-x129.google.com (mail-it1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A05D0752D2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wallbridge@blur.com) Received: by mail-it1-x129.google.com with SMTP id i145so7617769ita.4 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:54:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=blur.com; s=blur; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IzGBFjZTxJ92c6KEzbKH2+rejtArfhx9XdvoYqTXRa4=; b=Q/+8Cu4EdhChMzNNYK1yC9JDb+8mk6psu9TnHsRXWG5RIca0PKGhFqzILfrPL5JYoU 5WuFl0f1zSo62AnI4K0MYJb2SXA/evZ41Qf2TWRwE3GSzyjt2ScJLgaYbOm2oMEz6Uqx p0+P4EboBXjlbmkG1QmdPmHvJXXaDPY8mT7ULzB0UtetrNp5KmvKnJLGeVnq4nExvqDE HlnOcLfyXu/GVrMHAX0dniudQePtWcDs9X/shR0WiQiCxjbj0Gypu3GF/HzSXeIZe0Kx 3nRAxQcIDKo/IkyD/I3hwGnUSyYWSfRnC//OnUCfTN/wxcqTEI6XNp2MxBVOf8eT/IPf fO/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=IzGBFjZTxJ92c6KEzbKH2+rejtArfhx9XdvoYqTXRa4=; b=NZgt/GV4pvyP5eAcrXPbWxCagcOzMnShu0Le+7DQ3qV3rhP0bp+D317DpiNNbWNst2 nhwld1qRZZJaCk4IOPU51No0XPRTVeTwpqQct5lQ42BYDY8c01AJWrfXxNcaV6mTue2e R0L6jYgpnwPPj38Otet2K+mKfr18tijsIoHIT0ZQuBYa4eENH0Mqaf8hgqTqW4uZt4Cz xP//UYHG/RijwFl6D0dfwMHnI2O35kN0xwxP21bRA2FCOXPriHK06aLYgJHnldEwOn3h 85rDd4BgR48jbF+IITdROsvj6epgys3RI30b1Slgg5NWvoPyvaXEHoBrXudXDdxJMW3V VTUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukf28DKxdL4b04HjBzs4Cq6OwSAXs5LY7AKRjWc/eQ29apWY7f0h YI0Zyu++XmsM2r4ETiH4jhAiimEc/UHq2b5c970iugfY X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6W7Nw7T1/LDg8i/tdzopNUGckT/LJdnoyXXV5VLe0HeEUMdlkxUN4oj0yprnmhWYR1JraEZIXBNy9WDStpdNU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:660c:684:: with SMTP id n4mr3336258itk.64.1547589258487; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:54:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Shawn Wallbridge Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:54:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS for raid To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A05D0752D2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=blur.com header.s=blur header.b=Q/+8Cu4E; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wallbridge@blur.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wallbridge@blur.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.93 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blur.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ALT3.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com,ALT4.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.931,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-2.49)[ip: (-8.22), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.38), asn: 15169(-1.79), country: US(-0.08)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blur.com:s=blur]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blur.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:54:20 -0000 You do _not_ want a hardware raid controller if you are running ZFS. You can set up ZFS for your boot drives during setup, not 100% sure about another file system, but their is really no need as you can set it up once you are up and running. shawn On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:50 PM Paul Schmehl wrote: > I read here recently that zfs can be used for raid. I'm a neophyte when it > comes to zfs, but I'm thinking about using it for the next server I get. > > If you're going to setup drives with zfs for raid, do you need a hardware > controller? My impression is that you don't, but I want to know for sure > before I order a server. > > If there's no raid controller, can you setup raid using zfs during the OS > install? If you boot from the cd/dvd, do you get the option to configure > raid using zfs? > > Paul Schmehl, Retired > My opinions are my own. > ******************************************* > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very > intelligent person could believe in them." 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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:49:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QQEx6UNNcXXEJlrG86AhlflQO4L2XZH2n Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="AbXobJcHJYQ3isWgwHguw5MgfLa0xbxRR"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <169b6da2-167b-929a-2cb3-33a80f58e185@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: ZFS for raid References: In-Reply-To: --AbXobJcHJYQ3isWgwHguw5MgfLa0xbxRR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/01/2019 21:48, Paul Schmehl wrote: > If you're going to setup drives with zfs for raid, do you need a > hardware controller? My impression is that you don't, but I want to kno= w > for sure before I order a server. ZFS provides all the functionality you'ld otherwise get from a RAID controller. What you need hardware-wize depends on how many drives you need to manage. If it's just a few then you might be able to use the SATA headers on your motherboard. If it's many drives then what you need is a Host Bus Adapter (or several) -- if you're undecided about ZFS and want the option of switching to a RAID card, there are some RAID cards can be reflashed as HBAs and vice-versa. Although generally the experience with ZFS is that it beats out HW RAID pretty much across the board. Some RAID controllers have a pass-through mode which effectively presents the individual drives to the OS. This isn't a bad choice. If you're stuck with a RAID controller with no possibility of reflashing or pass-through mode, but you really want ZFS, then it is possible to make each drive into a single-disk RAID array and manage those via ZFS, but this is non-ideal. ZFS works best when it has maximum access to each of the individual disks, and single-disk RAIDs interfere with that. What you certainly do need with ZFS is plenty of RAM, as ZFS makes extensive use of RAM for caching or bufferring disk IO. Somewhat counter-intuitively though best performance results are often obtained by limiting the amount of your RAM that ZFS can monopolise, since that leaves more memory available to your application software. > If there's no raid controller, can you setup raid using zfs during the > OS install? If you boot from the cd/dvd, do you get the option to > configure raid using zfs? Sure. The installer lets you allocate disks to your zpool, and create various types of mirroring, striping, raidz, raidz2, etc. ZFS is pretty forgiving, and it is possible to do quite radical surgery directly on the zpool you're booted from without needing to reboot the OS. Cheers, Matthew --AbXobJcHJYQ3isWgwHguw5MgfLa0xbxRR-- --QQEx6UNNcXXEJlrG86AhlflQO4L2XZH2n Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAlw+Y2FfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDE5 RjE1NEVDQkYxMTJFNTA1NDRFM0YzMDAwNTEzRjEwRTBBOUU0RTcACgkQAFE/EOCp 5OdK/xAAhxi8Xc+Ov2Q4XoOGImI3RLyWikOngd5O3Dahyxr3oHhH/sJM32f1r8gw bo/INzGLmoxFgHxx+4cXAbgXeR8wgqqAaZyIzK+ajj9ToEzu3IzbPqbU95YSExHZ rGVDOMYPxud1cW8SOjyUGLAWtyYsd7C/HPnudggAkmf/l6gkIgbdMG0LpaPNdovX Ty3U90Uy+0MRZv1cPrOnzVBQ2b/5sSyV6gF5RjpJKpWzZbFcYJFdMlzp8mxvGpZd DT+SAsUp6FE9czk8s0hibEER+n5GLb88SdHiKCQZ3F9rCxVEtxzdEE0F7Mc4kFzs ahr6VNHLhfOy47I1L0mvfVLgjn5mv0x2zI8a3z4MgkLptonguH7TKlSNRyrGQE9M JJxuSq/Ztffnv8a9x9V7vT+aAs5wBtyIImpnk8CaeMtgSLRX0uaRGImZJ3ALkUBq JEMgejYP4MVoAOBxqfxaVQujUGoCy94xVkk63BybX8Hr/sCjWyH0FoWnirYo3iZk CQAaoMaLTmkJixowj6LxLDOdTbhUyM+SUE0FI1YUDALhnt772G7qjFv0/WG4rFAv pkW0UaUYCFygSL65mndo6te5qQk0RR3x6f4J1eSOJOmRLjAvBdXcjOnf4ZYkEfen XvD89cfY5YopvyjZTHZh1cSEpBeHnuJPKana/fvMKz9tQyKyZh8= =TVH5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QQEx6UNNcXXEJlrG86AhlflQO4L2XZH2n-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 22:51:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBC91499537 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8706477176 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 70505 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2019 22:51:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=11366.5c3e63da.k1901; bh=MzTSHph6/5Vlwzb2/UrhnqcQGWiAG309aGaLoKaS1LY=; b=d1fjtJuWzBC4cD+JARep/IZ9LccJh6EIzFHmjvnbk8im3n1UzVl+uGn3ouDyolsI62T+B2/0AJUp5A49Z47wuAX5oPdlefE/5eGeDdaZ0v5DanSrRlzx1JXsKM9jcQJ4IiahNSlXnpvuCtZbh3X3itANBrOHhl+8q9TQVIlX5E2yN2tuIU/aqVDiKv511EaceWZOJU3oDvNlkH/jfnnczhrV02RJfxQ0NszjyW2EN0dJ8LNU5//zJuw8O5uif+X+ Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 15 Jan 2019 22:51:06 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0ECC1200CABF29; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:51:05 -0500 (EST) Date: 15 Jan 2019 17:51:05 -0500 Message-Id: <20190115225106.0ECC1200CABF29@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: wallbridge@blur.com Subject: Re: ZFS for raid In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:51:09 -0000 In article you write: >You do _not_ want a hardware raid controller if you are running ZFS. You >can set up ZFS for your boot drives during setup, not 100% sure about >another file system, but their is really no need as you can set it up once >you are up and running. Correct. ZFS does the RAID stuff so you do not want the controller helping. ZFS can do mirrors, n/m RAID and just about any combination you can imagine. Recent versions of FreeBSD can boot from ZFS, but it's fine to combine ZFS and UFS on the same system. On my home server, the boot disk is a little UFS SSD, with an external four-disk ZFS RAID I use for backups. My real server has four disks arranged as two pairs of mirrors in one bootable filesystem. This is all explained reasonably well in the FreeBSD handbook and the man pages. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 15 22:57:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6716314998F2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (mail.geeks.org [IPv6:2001:4980:3333:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D765E7747E for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B2F11020B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:57:28 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5CF1711020A; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:57:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:57:28 -0600 From: Doug McIntyre To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ZFS for raid Message-ID: <20190115225728.GA64342@geeks.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:57:30 -0000 On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 03:48:33PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I read here recently that zfs can be used for raid. I'm a neophyte when it > comes to zfs, but I'm thinking about using it for the next server I get. > > If you're going to setup drives with zfs for raid, do you need a hardware > controller? My impression is that you don't, but I want to know for sure > before I order a server. > > If there's no raid controller, can you setup raid using zfs during the OS > install? If you boot from the cd/dvd, do you get the option to configure > raid using zfs? ZFS can provide you all functions that a hardware RAID setup would. A hardware controller can come in different options & setups. To me, I'd be looking for a server with a dedicated HBA (Host Bus Adapter) that just does IT (initiator target) mode. If you have a small enough # of disks, you could get away with not having an HBA at all, and just use the SATA ports provided on the motherboard. This would let me connect several to many disks to the server as a JBOD (just bunch of disks), and use FreeBSD ZFS to manage them. Sometimes JBOD refers to an external shelf of disks as well. Hardware Controllers can come as IR mode too, or a "hardware RAID card". This basicly just runs a small kernel on an embedded CPU on the HBA that does some sort of RAID on its own, and presents a logical drive all RAIDed together to the OS. If you have FreeBSD do all the RAID stuff with ZFS though, you get more direct control of the disks, you can do direct monitoring for disk faults and replacement instead of through the hardware RAID card interface (which often times hide this from you, and there may be some fault you don't know about or can't monitor). I'd rather have the power of FreeBSD controlling my RAID vs. a small embedded CPU running on a hard. If you are buying a "server class machine", they typically don't provide many SATA ports onboard, instead expecting their users to be buying HBAs for their needs. This of course adds onto the cost of the machine if you have to buy an HBA card to control things. They tend to be a bit more cost than a simple $30 SATA card or whatever. Desktop machines tend to have a lot of SATA ports onboard though. I won't get into SAS vs. SATA. Yes, you can fully setup ZFS during FreeBSD install for the boot setup. Typically for my servers, I'd usually have a couple small SSDs mirrored for boot, and then more data disks for data storage. During initial setup, you'd be setting up the boot zpool, and deal with the data zpool later. You can also do a single pool for boot and the rest if you want, I prefer them to be seperate. 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Yes, Imation SuperDisk 120MB is old technology. However, after a recent dea= th in the family, I now have a need to recover important genealogy document= s stored on these disks. The disks were created on an Imation SuperDisk 120= MB Parallel Port Drive w/ Imation USB adapter, which is in my possession. Mitsubishi Electric states "FreeBSD release 2.2.6 or later supports the LS-= 120". http://www.mitsubishielectric.com.au/assets/vis/ls-120in.pdf There are 2 dirvers for 2.2.6-RELEASE and, 2.2.7-RELEASE, wfd (ATAPI LS-120= /ZIP) driver for FreeBSD http://configure.sh/FreeBSD/ls120.html My Questions: 1. Is the Imation SuperDisk 120MB supported in your current release (Fre= eBSD-12.0-RELEASE)? 2. Is the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE operable on your current release? 3. If not, can the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE be updated to be operable on= your current release? 4. Does the 2.2.6-RELEASE offer a LiveCD or does it require a full insta= ll to a HDD? 5. Do you have any additional thoughts to help me? Thank you. LMart [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]= Virus-free. www.avg.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 00:41:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ECF149C533 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4B2D83259 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.7] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id jZ8kgflH5WnTijZ8ngN6Zo; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:33:10 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:33:06 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ZFS for raid Message-ID: <4BCA5FF06C331FA017C7B503@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <20190115225728.GA64342@geeks.org> References: <20190115225728.GA64342@geeks.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDATuKeUAedRe4r+b+KtCRwZYp3acmx+lJdiPMukLZENDYG3vNgX8nEW2lI0kIqu511QHnighwrrUyKkd07ginke8XG1zz2ytVESlmAyRbA+DCOs/4Dy Ymf/a5jBhPIqC836C1yBd4S34sxqyX1zASZB5Tg0NXE3soJHj+XdEFuSCSlRe6TQzwQF6j/awckxig== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A4B2D83259 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:41:45 -0000 Thank you Shawn, Matthew, John, and Doug for your responses. I will start reading up on ZFS. The advice about an HBA and a small boot raid plus data drives was very helpful as well as the comments about needing plenty of ram. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 02:20:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58708149ED9C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61A0F86876 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=QFtQJ7SPxU5k50ASsC+w1b0HPGmAvWJqjC5URnvDVRs=; b=bC4r+z70XgGGFbewNSli1mXJqt lS63/XEKpT9qFRkDrSfGoeHqCp5oOTXrcenEEsXb6SkBewFhEeSn+56OPRVF4eYm3j1PmL8Wz6Kin WP2y5N1Rg7QRDWlfsI+dkhUU5ceAhH+mW+2QU1PJ34FZsrxEJESDl195M9+aB5Mp3aHU=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gjaow-000Bn1-JW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:20:46 +0700 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:20:46 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The mysterious kern.maxswzone Message-ID: <20190116022046.GA45024@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:20:49 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, I have a small 11.2-RELEASE-p8 i386 system with 512M swap and 256M RAM: # swapinfo Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/mirror/gm0s1b 524288 29656 494632 6% I guess it's not an extraordinary amount of swap for this amount of RAM. However, on boot I see the warning: warning: total configured swap (131072 pages) exceeds maximum recommended a= mount (113792 pages). warning: increase kern.maxswzone or reduce amount of swap. # sysctl kern.maxswzone kern.maxswzone: 36175872 I have some questions: 1. Where is this kern.maxswzone tunable documented? 2. In what units is it measured? What is 36175872, are these bytes? 3. How do I calculate kern.maxswzone to suit my amount of RAM and swap? 36175872/113792=3D317.91 which confuses me even more (division with remainder?) --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJcPpT+AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0x/cH/2cH5g1MbVA3VYIT/R9QmvOa trdvLKTA+GdKWB7j9DyVQU+XMkx5BWqTbizQOumzAltgYNi3al/H4B6EWlvjS7HK v/eOzEgmv6eQap9G8pRvnaIlxQ+P+m2Ir7gN2oBc6qzlepANLh5Pct7UiY4t0vYu rLScqEPVTmuL37bvaSx707Bv+DEgp/j/oml346b8Y723wMj9HVKsVCeGB+XUdnOM rXAdeZTJllAl3PauRAIMEPkQA2Ue9QRz3aTRpHWKX8SDLFL4Od5GV6jb8JUjdGpo 9ixG2DJ8UU8vvYkBoDOBI7vn9zsBeGOh0wHPgTkq1708ZA6CfLiI5Yj8zZZvasQ= =vaqN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 02:50:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C4C149F841 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C00C87334 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0G2bP78057244 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 19:37:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: help with port using CMakeLists Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 19:37:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 15 Jan 2019 19:37:26 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9C00C87334 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.70)[-0.699,0]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.34)[ip: (-8.74), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.37), asn: 21947(-3.50), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:50:44 -0000 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 Up until now, (I think) I've been able to: cd /usr/ports/foo/bar make make install modify port make deinstall make make reinstall However, I'm not sure I've ever done this with a build based on CMakeLists. working with cad/freecad source files in /usr/ports/cad/freecad-dev/work/FreeCAD-a14af0f/src/Gui objs appear to be in /usr/ports/cad/freecad-dev/work/.build/src/Gui/CMakeFiles/FreeCADGui.dir If I modify a source file, then type "make" from /usr/ports/cad/freecad, there is not a new .o in the above object directory. If I remove work/.build_done.FreeCAD._user_local it still isn't generated. What's the magic formula? I don't see any new files anywhere. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 05:05:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1CE14A3111 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@sdf.org) Received: from mx.sdf.org (ol.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 982ED8BF5D for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:iam@sdf.lonestar.org [205.166.94.16]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id x0G5580X021990 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:05:08 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sdf.org; s=default; t=1547615116; bh=dfNqCmY/dtl6K0KQ9dB7H2AsQj8nMe6bSYnxIH2h3LQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=Ke8CeTKSJg5YaI5bySoaXUAY68J+a5urfJmxJRw3CH3Ia6P9mwABKDKpyy5A7XAzu wrjmJjJcLhLzVf3FjZAq+us/7CxUP6anBou1hbxa1siG9Q5ybUEBL/1ph89N7jLTMG WTYmMvBZULuZpYq1UjvlrDD8vlfBBZWpud6et/6w= Received: (from iam@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id x0G558X1004475 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:05:08 GMT Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:05:08 GMT From: iam@sdf.org Message-Id: <201901160505.x0G558X1004475@sdf.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: libc : non-c specific functions! X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 982ED8BF5D X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sdf.org header.s=default header.b=Ke8CeTKS X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.842,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sdf.org:s=default]; IP_SCORE(-0.08)[ip: (-0.64), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.32), asn: 14361(0.65), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.947,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sdf.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.59)[0.586,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.sdf.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sdf.org:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:05:21 -0000 is there any way to find out which functions in libc are non-c specific, so for example if i had to implement a syslib in assembly language, i could just avoid the "c" parts as they would be irrelevant. all of the above is hypothetical, i just want to know and learn. something which this mailing list allows me to do effortlessly. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 06:30:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323F314A4910 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 06:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E85A8EEF0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 06:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0G6UoKO057821 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:30:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: help with port using CMakeLists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <17ce83d3-522b-2a4b-9b35-797d2262cf81@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:31:11 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:30:51 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4E85A8EEF0 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.33 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.66)[-0.660,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; IP_SCORE(-3.36)[ip: (-8.80), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.40), asn: 21947(-3.52), country: US(-0.08)]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 06:30:54 -0000 On 1/15/19 7:37 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 > > Up until now, (I think) I've been able to: >   cd /usr/ports/foo/bar >   make >   make install >   modify port >   make deinstall >   make >   make reinstall > > However, I'm not sure I've ever done this with a build based on CMakeLists. > > working with >   cad/freecad > source files in >   /usr/ports/cad/freecad-dev/work/FreeCAD-a14af0f/src/Gui > objs appear to be in >   /usr/ports/cad/freecad-dev/work/.build/src/Gui/CMakeFiles/FreeCADGui.dir > > If I modify a source file, then type "make" from /usr/ports/cad/freecad, > there is not a new .o in the above object directory. > If I remove work/.build_done.FreeCAD._user_local it still isn't generated. > > What's the magic formula?  I don't see any new files anywhere. Never mind, looks like I needed to get rid of .install_done... and .stage_done also duh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 09:44:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768EE14815B1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52CCA94212 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MQusJ-1gvRR30TG3-00NwdK; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:44:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:44:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ZFS for raid Message-Id: <20190116104404.275b30d7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ttsRmvrWJ28rrae9D1glKxFYWUCsLTV1GlScrdCfz43x+jJ5NrJ OWeWNMS2vBZJxQt55gT4Plec+fVPhOSEABJGrIGqq7mRioAy2TBuLb/1PhOvD8m0hmClS8v GhO/hutMscO/TcNk7R5EJvZZMot3Gx+TzGsMfeTHwk25cMfNyynaMzLa+h5pOiIf+So0lXG kuJA/3znnm296BYA/PK/A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RwTEclB8GY0=:PuiCsZ1AnyUpM7y1dFqq50 ZfJrFSUxefCqxUKV+pqyxxTeuvWOQ/l/yJbV5IwFx6XHctTP1z8J2iBtH5vX5nA7D1CuTzkjc 4vrbRdSKh64E+3/BFH6rB3rKRB4FkvFi0oGkRpCmPSI2JfnQdaAm9LBBctW9B2Y5TiK7Y+NiC g6vBu+UjURzMMzMzKSHZP4VTQKQaMBC2oXHHGq7WHOn1dqGX+pFc+VqXrDYX42cGki4TtKOGK QU2VNZ8//GuCiGDTk//YWIFDzIgm9uMS8IQdYqq7DhGF4svdbnWwOCCJiMgXgFelS0+ABNPuX JMU2mu+mZ8q+8KUpj8KS2FxDxSVVGZu4F0JCejPqcsBUk5R6P4dak6Dszh/IJ2QCknWGOCq+Z +QFNxcp2MryA7M2SENT6SeLKXg3UjcNz3GWA7NgjLeWEqyCK/zIPMn5lkyxOqBxa6SEMu2lyW ylVfYnTKvRu8sDVxHZ2h1JegdPzYMXQrEwFRYq0d4Qb+Gr6AVTz42lVzqUZ2US6ugomxPt5vY s9L57jVtMlnBa+GEaW0QMobTlu2g6s8cj3Dq1eMj/jUam7krwlu3MQ7o20OgtZgmnx3anoU+e GzxlU7tdu2t3kDXlEYiVF6bWYHLspz1z42LnGP+xXKui12wdr4Slm3tYssTV/uVn3TN6Vb4W5 5cAykB2Bwq+Md4zX+xvCvHNoQTbIwwEL5aN/rig0SCkFJrWJS4ayC0SqU8+NB8OmdHjwAj6nc Ca82TO65DE19fLrGFOMyfECLC0RMBJMzxuAXyZRtjtvC7c3FV7HFS0f2e2s= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 52CCA94212 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.33 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.29)[0.294,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.66)[ip: (3.27), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.63), asn: 8560(0.64), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:44:18 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:48:33 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > If you're going to setup drives with zfs for raid, do you need a hardware > controller? My impression is that you don't, but I want to know for sure > before I order a server. You don't need it, and it's commonly preferred to _not_ use one. Leave managing the drives to ZFS so it can impose its whole set of features on the drives. So if you have one in your system, don't use it. Set it to a mode where all drives are reported individually to the system, and _no_ kind of RAID management is performed by the controller. The less interference, the better it is. :-) > If there's no raid controller, can you setup raid using zfs during the OS > install? Yes, bsdinstall allows this. But you can also set up ZFS with shell commands. > If you boot from the cd/dvd, do you get the option to configure > raid using zfs? Yes, during bsdinstall or when exiting to the shell. Helpful information can be found in section "2.6.4. Root-on-ZFS Automatic Partitioning": https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html More detailed information about the convenient command line tools is also available: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 10:04:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA0F1481BD2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6056294BA1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:04:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mj8eD-1hDI2k0ExJ-00fChI; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:03:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:03:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "L. Mart" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Imation SuperDisk 120MB Message-Id: <20190116110358.46035e18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:VCNtdKjxerI/m7QfsAErv9rOA08r5oSDNHRcSavWqCBp4I2p56p LPuXW5H8fbUdr1Tvvuz/2fRprfHRzrWasJwcz0DRARO4S8Ymw5/zeuhTwLONwWkm3LHkHBz 5QQ/QFBiXAQi0peaeCYvIQB7jRZJj4Vld8/7yZOXPoicSvlsVkkksPeKs2DoAWoqF/VrVoR fVUvoNZxHovEoiM710Cvg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:/RPOScI8zJY=:4MUeriOgZ2CoqB2+9Mg3RQ qF6Eqccfg8NajKQlZGeSSsVkw1XYRTvJboLeh6v9qtAP4u/JHy5LeC69YbEwfO7sW1B1yGkzk m6uShGWjJczVXqLgwqa7u6L1pc6B4LRSyHZr0OTGE4GzfHehpng1IVbCPlSwKJHrUgAwdprCf P9Kcffb4Wq/6NewZn8zXFDmImPXd2k/VrRvv1GgY/x2nR2br32igv7/YhcQPzvk032gaiCXpI fKUg9uTl/Neb2wgvkb2k9XVZY68xJeL5chtSmUNzVXMabhZwsONGia3Ip3FfWGj/MqEKNKqm4 e9xkAB3pLKgYzsoZqmgHOQtOG7yfeEGpC/DF1e3ARL+8/4gT84JSVYJ85wmC+GXaGYmH8EtpZ pYlFITp0mexxY1pUABGqmTOsUY6jt8SQF74qwWmuMKD3MXGrbKVKV9gUasKX9YLllwPKXQ6Qh gOK9eqZjk/e2WLeVnoZD2N4z8qnjy1IDq8b/72VZgbvogZVZNj7rbi/HWR8gJ/I/K0J6dBRfN SNBx6J38YnTL4DZDu/pbGqEV47DyX9doMubKpfoX7x/P6aYzV/M0NJ3cA4WnOroTOlSLDaJvY lY/bRfSmeQswYyjel7fM7WRpDDA7jvMPma0bpVpNOC3JcBoBEGkluJah5GLFUGVUzJwPhu3zt EP7eV+wnDur8GESZBine6Y34sQvQ0VGLhIIvYS7HLWkFKrSf5mKtO3KsuyYa3dO6TSNVfSvbN o0+o0rAM5eLOwr6tOJfDLH4CTBtFASGvtitu4G5tChAMnmBDKU5fl/WrUsk= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6056294BA1 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.26 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.12)[-0.115,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.80)[0.803,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.995,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.19)[ip: (0.97), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.65), asn: 8560(0.63), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:04:04 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:31:53 +0000, L. Mart wrote: > Yes, Imation SuperDisk 120MB is old technology. However, after a > recent death in the family, I now have a need to recover important > genealogy documents stored on these disks. The disks were created > on an Imation SuperDisk 120MB Parallel Port Drive w/ Imation USB > adapter, which is in my possession. A USB-based device should cause less trouble than the parallel ones, even though I once got a parallel Iomega Zip drive working with FreeBSD. > There are 2 dirvers for 2.2.6-RELEASE and, 2.2.7-RELEASE, wfd > (ATAPI LS-120/ZIP) driver for FreeBSD > http://configure.sh/FreeBSD/ls120.html The ATAPI version is for internal drives (parallel ATA connector). If you have the USB version, the generic USB direct access storage driver (da) should work. > My Questions: > > 1. Is the Imation SuperDisk 120MB supported in your current > release (FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE)? It's so old it's not listed anymore, and because it was less common in the PC area (mostly a "Mac thing"), documentation for comparable technology concentrates on Zip drives. However, as you said you have the USB version, why not give it a try? Even a live system (booted from USB stick or CD / DVD without installation) should be sufficient. After the system booted, attach the drive. Make sure a disk is loaded, so the medium can be identified. Use the "dmesg" command to check the last messages. Does a new da* device appear? For this example, let's assume lines with "da0:" have been printed, and we assume /dev/da0 as the new drive. If yes, check which files have been created in /dev for that device, i. e., use "ls /dev/da0*". There will probably be two files, /dev/da0 and /dev/da0s1, but that's just a guess. So let's assume /dev/da0s1 is a MS-DOS (FAT) file system on the disk - the data you want to get. Now you can probably mount the disk. Pay attention to _not_ use a r/w mount at this stage! A usable approach would probably be something like this: # mkdir /isd # mount_msdosfs -r /dev/da0s1 /isd It might be helpful to apply a file and directory mask with a more extended mount command: # mount_msdosfs -r -m=644 -M=755 /dev/da0s1 /isd Check what's in there: # ls -R /isd You can then copy everything from the /isd directory, depending on your "recivery system setup". Don't forget to use # umount /isd when you're done. Pay attention to use the correct device name, Contrary to my example, /dev/da1 could be correct (and /dev/da0s1 wrong). You can examine the partitioning with the appropirate "old" tool: # fdisk /dev/da0 And you will probably see one MS-DOS partition. However, if you have the "Mac thing"... it _could_ be possible that a different file system has been used to initialize the disk. In that case, more forensic work will be needed. I'm not saying it is impossible - I'm just suggesting that it can be a bit complicated because you need to perform "a mental and material travel into the past", which I'm saying from my experience as a "living museum". ;-) > 2. Is the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE operable on your current release? Probably not, but as I said, as you're using the USB version, you're probably not going to need it. > 3. If not, can the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE be updated to be > operable on your current release? Maybe it can. It heavily depends on the facilities it relies on. Keep in mind the OS kernel has seen a lot of changes since 2.2.6. :-) > 4. Does the 2.2.6-RELEASE offer a LiveCD or does it require a > full install to a HDD? I'm not sure it will even _run_ on current hardware. Sure, you could use a much older computer, set up networking, and use an internal FTP server to get the data out... On the FTP server, I can only see floppy images for the 2.2.6 installation process: http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/2.2.6-RELEASE/floppies/ So that should work. The old computer you're going to use will surely have a floppy disk drive. :-) > 5. Do you have any additional thoughts to help me? Try it first with a current FreeBSD version. A live system will probably be sufficient for testing. Good luck! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 10:09:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492D01481E47 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch (mail4.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E430694D76 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:09:15 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: libc : non-c specific functions! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201901160505.x0G558X1004475@sdf.org> References: <201901160505.x0G558X1004475@sdf.org> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E430694D76 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.83 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[phascolarctos@protonmail.ch]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mailsec.protonmail.ch]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.ch:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.ch,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[27.40.70.185.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19905, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-3.74)[ip: (-9.83), ipnet: 185.70.40.0/24(-4.89), asn: 19905(-3.91), country: US(-0.08)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[protonmail.ch.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.ch:s=default]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:09:28 -0000 > is there any way to find out which functions in libc are non-c > specific, so for example if i had to implement a syslib in > assembly language, i could just avoid the "c" parts as they > would be irrelevant. > all of the above is hypothetical, i just want to know and learn. > something which this mailing list allows me to do effortlessly. Someone already answered about it, but I guess the answer was not clear enough. It would be easier to answer you if you told us what you know: which programming languages do you know for example? Are you developing some concrete project or are you only studying theory (it is pretty hard to study theory without practice in this subject)? Now, the answer to your question. C is a language to write softwares and libraries. What you write in C is called a source code: you understand the source code, the machine does not. Then you compile it using a software called a compiler (as gcc or clang): what you get is an object code in machine code; the machine understands it, you do not (well if you really want you can but it is very hard, impossible for average people). Then, after a third passage called linking (implicit in compilation for easy projects like "hello world= " printing programs), you get your library or software, in machine code. The final product - the library or software - is in machine code. Not in C, not in assembly, not in rust. That holds for libc too: it's language is machine code, at least in the compiled form on your system. When developers wrote its source code it was most probably written mainly in C and assembly (you can mix programming languages and often you need to), but in its compiled form on the system it is in machine code. The relation of libc with C is that it follows a standard which makes writing C programs very easily. If you have some experience in C you surely know the printf function: how the compiler knows what to do when you write it in a source code? It knows it because it is written in libc. Hope this can help you. Lorenzo Salvadore. 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Everything that's in the standard C library is stuff required by the C standard. It doesn't actually matter _how_ it is implemented, even though it's commonly implemented in C. So "nothing and everything is C-specific". ;-) Your question is a bit strange (or I'm just too stupid to understand it correctly). Allow me to explain: The libc isn't there for its own good. It's a library used by other programs which call functions from that library using those function names, after linking to that library, simplified speaking. If you would implement your alternative system library, let's say libsys, and let's say you do this in assembly, then no other program could use it _except_ you implement the calling interface (i. e., its API) in the exact same way. This is the only way other programs could use it instead of libc. Example: You want a non-libc equivalent of dmesg. You start by examining /usr/src/sbin/dmesg/dmesg.c, which header files does it include? Which libc calls does it make? Your libsys would heed to implement them - _how_ it does that is of no interest to the compiler / linker. So after you've done that, you could recompile "cc -lsys -o dmesg dmesg.c" and it would no longer need libc. On the other hand, if you're going to develop your own (!) userland tools, based upon your own libsys written in assembly, you can create your own new universe, as long as compatibility is not required. FreeBSD's implementation of libc is in /usr/src/lib/libc and its subdirectories. Even though the standard C library is a very common thing, it's implemented differently on the many existing operating systems, and even its name can be different, for example glibc (GNU libc) on Linux. The content can also be different, as the C standard requires certain things, but the library maintainer could decide to add other things, for example POSIX extensions (which are not required by the C standard). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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To: Polytropon , iam@sdf.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201901160505.x0G558X1004475@sdf.org> <20190116111733.43ada98d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <635f935e-846f-39e7-c193-f952d4ecfd5b@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:39:54 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190116111733.43ada98d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 50D16960DB X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.28 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.956,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.961,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.mythic-beasts.com,mx2.mythic-beasts.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.76)[-0.758,0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.30)[asn: 13037(-1.38), country: GB(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:40:09 -0000 On 16/01/2019 10:17, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 05:05:08 GMT, iam@sdf.org wrote: >> is there any way to find out which functions in libc are non-c >> specific, so for example if i had to implement a syslib in >> assembly language, i could just avoid the "c" parts as they >> would be irrelevant. > > Everything that's in the standard C library is stuff required > by the C standard. It doesn't actually matter _how_ it is > implemented, even though it's commonly implemented in C. > So "nothing and everything is C-specific". ;-) > > Your question is a bit strange (or I'm just too stupid to > understand it correctly). > > Allow me to explain: > > The libc isn't there for its own good. It's a library used > by other programs which call functions from that library > using those function names, after linking to that library, > simplified speaking. If you would implement your alternative > system library, let's say libsys, and let's say you do this > in assembly, then no other program could use it _except_ you > implement the calling interface (i. e., its API) in the > exact same way. This is the only way other programs could > use it instead of libc. > > Example: You want a non-libc equivalent of dmesg. You start > by examining /usr/src/sbin/dmesg/dmesg.c, which header files > does it include? Which libc calls does it make? Your libsys > would heed to implement them - _how_ it does that is of no > interest to the compiler / linker. So after you've done that, > you could recompile "cc -lsys -o dmesg dmesg.c" > and it would no longer need libc. > > On the other hand, if you're going to develop your own (!) > userland tools, based upon your own libsys written in assembly, > you can create your own new universe, as long as compatibility > is not required. > > FreeBSD's implementation of libc is in /usr/src/lib/libc and > its subdirectories. Even though the standard C library is a > very common thing, it's implemented differently on the many > existing operating systems, and even its name can be different, > for example glibc (GNU libc) on Linux. The content can also > be different, as the C standard requires certain things, but > the library maintainer could decide to add other things, for > example POSIX extensions (which are not required by the C > standard). If you wish to "compare and contrast" you could also take a look at the musl libc and see the differing trade-offs that makes Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musl The musl web site: https://www.musl-libc.org/ It even has a "See how musl compares to other major libcs" link. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 10:44:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F16148365F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 374D596689 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N2lv2-1hOeRc31CO-0137GW; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:39:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:39:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Lorenzo Salvadore Cc: Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: libc : non-c specific functions! 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If you have some experience in C you > surely know the printf function: how the compiler knows what to do > when you write it in a source code? It knows it because it is written in > libc. And to the compiler, it doesn't even matter in which source language the machine code corresponding to printf() has been written in. There is a defined format for libraries (for static as well as dynamic use) which allows the compiler and linker to create the appropriate "hooks" to call functions. It does not matter if such a function has been written in C, in Rust, or in assembly. In fact, parts of FreeBSD's libc have been written in assembly (check for *.S files in /usr/src/lib/libc; some parts are machine-dependent, others are not. The _content_ of libc (as a concept different from the way of creation of libc) is defined by the C standard, i. e., which functions, variables, or macros the standard requires. This is where the name originates from. Do not confuse this with statements like "the libc is written in C", or "the libc is for programs written in C". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Googling doesn't provide an answer. (Or maybe I need to have breakfast, :-) What am I doing wrong? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 14:03:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77F91489553 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 963986F07D for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MoOIi-1h3e4P30O0-00olOG; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:02:57 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:02:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Arthur Chance Cc: iam@sdf.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc : non-c specific functions! 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There is also "Diet libc", a standard C library that aims to not gather fat. ;-) https://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietlibc Key takeaways: It was developed [...] with the goal to compile and link programs to the smallest possible size. dietlibc was developed from scratch and thus only implements the most important and commonly used functions. It is mainly used in embedded devices. There are even more libc implementations, with BSD's libc and Linux's glibc being the most prominent ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_standard_library#Implementations -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 14:13:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138621489920 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 729596F53F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17A80174BB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/17A80174BB; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: ZFS for raid To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190115225728.GA64342@geeks.org> <4BCA5FF06C331FA017C7B503@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:13:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BCA5FF06C331FA017C7B503@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 729596F53F X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.972,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20712, ipnet:81.2.64.0/18, country:GB] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:13:13 -0000 On 16/01/2019 00:33, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Thank you Shawn, Matthew, John, and Doug for your responses. I will > start reading up on ZFS. The advice about an HBA and a small boot raid > plus data drives was very helpful as well as the comments about needing > plenty of ram. In my experience, you can just build a zpool and use it to both boot from and to hold all your data. Creating small boot RAIDs is unnecessary. The only exception to this is when you want a zpool that consists of so many disks the BIOS cannot see them all, in which case you need a smaller pool or somesuch to boot from. It is generally a bad idea to mix serious usage of ZFS and UFS in the same server: the different filesystems will tend to fight with each other over access to memory for caching, and performance will suffer. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 17:31:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703D7148F250 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD7DB76EB5 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046AEB2E7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:31:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h51vMoSW6WEh for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B13AFB2DE for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:31:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35c451bc1733004b7d868f60da68c639.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:31:14 -0500 Subject: Memory usage appears a bit high From: "James B. 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It has 4 Gb allocated. I have noticed that top reports this: Mem: 164M Active, 204M Inact, 22M Laundry, 3426M Wired, 111M Free which indicates that more than 75% of the allocated memory is permanently wired to the kernel and unavailable for anything else. I ran netstat -m to see the assignment and got this result: # netstat -m 1027/1508/2535 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 1024/762/1786/251314 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 1024/747 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/14/14/125657 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/37231 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/20942 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 2304K/1957K/4261K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0 sendfile syscalls 0 sendfile syscalls completed without I/O request 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 pages read by sendfile as part of a request 0 pages were valid at time of a sendfile request 0 pages were requested for read ahead by applications 0 pages were read ahead by sendfile 0 times sendfile encountered an already busy page 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed There does not seem to be any evidence of memory pressure here. Is the kernel glomping of most available memory expected behaviour? In other words, if I increase the memory allocated to the vm will the kernel simply eat the increase as well? Do I have a problem somewhere? This is not a very busy server and 4 GB seemed a generous allowance when we set it up. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions" wrote: > We have an Cyrus IMAP service running on a BHyve FreeBSD-11.2p7 vm. > It has 4 Gb allocated. I have noticed that top reports this: > > Mem: 164M Active, 204M Inact, 22M Laundry, 3426M Wired, 111M Free Are you running ZFS ? If so then most of the wired memory is probably ARC. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 17:40:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7455F148F90B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-ot1-x32c.google.com (mail-ot1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 981D477436 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-ot1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id i20so8521725otl.0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:40:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=G3Re8W5c0ba3HdVUEe3CdDa5ZaYUU8Kin/GKvbKAKcw=; b=S/0/bx/2VgRtaV0LIlFlrrOak+6ebB1aIQ479Ll1Bbbu+w7GEOLhH8LAlhiCTJvxxP CIkykw7aSpiUnEt+7R4UivY4KP009ql61YxmPdGDl0uGoz/OtpA3IRFNq/Gxc8KejuYE U3QAoChW/PcbPPcbgAkPg6g7Lhv8PfJ85N60o= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=G3Re8W5c0ba3HdVUEe3CdDa5ZaYUU8Kin/GKvbKAKcw=; b=YYI80Qe8Ab8Ua1z3+vL5G/g/ZNHIsvlcy3FZMZ2+XIxxXT+4MbDBe231JK96x9gknn kLbW8QkZ6uqJIOGHf/mVUszIyK4ycB/GRv/qXFJ/aXqIDTcCeq+GB/ywcnBTBYA1Y9nD y5aK69ZN6+p7T0lw9eFZkN4s8YevvJ3iZ/HAqCfMdH7WB8j5B9jKkDvIc/Mt4HCezt6K 6qppYk6eFzwO7QbbQjd37VGNLbLn/k9frSz8eSZdmxpm7arRDp5z1+6JeAV6OuuJ1MdW G0x4ByROR6fhe5s1nrC18iIqnddwQOVE4RBCHH0Pzx4Nu2wPbVk038zZEincFbRM8CKZ aEzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukd9hqKrkuD7WoQObNUGpV9x4VfHIIBdm0oySaz0WviwAwmg8IeK SnWEg7mbkKFRcchsX9lx1ENQWXNWBjSzFXtDd5nj+cNp X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7WNeoYkdYqqEI5d3aN0JljQJ5OcViz6ds0dtevDkcfsukStZfaKBU8lC0wVMck0fh3vXQAnO54CcDAMlQyfHQ= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:14e:: with SMTP id 72mr6503321otu.54.1547660415931; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:40:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190116110358.46035e18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190116110358.46035e18.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Mario Lobo Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:40:18 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Imation SuperDisk 120MB To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 981D477436 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsd.com.br header.s=capeta header.b=S/0/bx/2; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lobo@bsd.com.br designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lobo@bsd.com.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsd.com.br:s=capeta]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsd.com.br]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.80)[ip: (-9.76), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.39), asn: 15169(-1.80), country: US(-0.08)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM,ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsd.com.br:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.907,0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:40:19 -0000 Em qua, 16 de jan de 2019 =C3=A0s 07:07, Polytropon escr= eveu: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:31:53 +0000, L. Mart wrote: > > Yes, Imation SuperDisk 120MB is old technology. However, after a > > recent death in the family, I now have a need to recover important > > genealogy documents stored on these disks. The disks were created > > on an Imation SuperDisk 120MB Parallel Port Drive w/ Imation USB > > adapter, which is in my possession. > > A USB-based device should cause less trouble than the parallel > ones, even though I once got a parallel Iomega Zip drive working > with FreeBSD. > > > > > There are 2 dirvers for 2.2.6-RELEASE and, 2.2.7-RELEASE, wfd > > (ATAPI LS-120/ZIP) driver for FreeBSD > > http://configure.sh/FreeBSD/ls120.html > > The ATAPI version is for internal drives (parallel ATA connector). > If you have the USB version, the generic USB direct access storage > driver (da) should work. > > > > > My Questions: > > > > 1. Is the Imation SuperDisk 120MB supported in your current > > release (FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE)? > > It's so old it's not listed anymore, and because it was less > common in the PC area (mostly a "Mac thing"), documentation > for comparable technology concentrates on Zip drives. > > However, as you said you have the USB version, why not give it > a try? Even a live system (booted from USB stick or CD / DVD > without installation) should be sufficient. > > After the system booted, attach the drive. Make sure a disk > is loaded, so the medium can be identified. > > Use the "dmesg" command to check the last messages. Does a > new da* device appear? > > For this example, let's assume lines with "da0:" have been > printed, and we assume /dev/da0 as the new drive. > > If yes, check which files have been created in /dev for that > device, i. e., use "ls /dev/da0*". There will probably be > two files, /dev/da0 and /dev/da0s1, but that's just a guess. > > So let's assume /dev/da0s1 is a MS-DOS (FAT) file system > on the disk - the data you want to get. > > Now you can probably mount the disk. Pay attention to _not_ > use a r/w mount at this stage! A usable approach would probably > be something like this: > > # mkdir /isd > # mount_msdosfs -r /dev/da0s1 /isd > > It might be helpful to apply a file and directory mask with a > more extended mount command: > > # mount_msdosfs -r -m=3D644 -M=3D755 /dev/da0s1 /isd > > Check what's in there: > > # ls -R /isd > > You can then copy everything from the /isd directory, depending > on your "recivery system setup". > > Don't forget to use > > # umount /isd > > when you're done. > > Pay attention to use the correct device name, Contrary to my > example, /dev/da1 could be correct (and /dev/da0s1 wrong). > > You can examine the partitioning with the appropirate "old" > tool: > > # fdisk /dev/da0 > > And you will probably see one MS-DOS partition. > > However, if you have the "Mac thing"... it _could_ be possible > that a different file system has been used to initialize the > disk. In that case, more forensic work will be needed. I'm > not saying it is impossible - I'm just suggesting that it can > be a bit complicated because you need to perform "a mental > and material travel into the past", which I'm saying from > my experience as a "living museum". ;-) > > > > > 2. Is the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE operable on your current release? > > Probably not, but as I said, as you're using the USB version, > you're probably not going to need it. > > > > > 3. If not, can the driver for 2.2.6-RELEASE be updated to be > > operable on your current release? > > Maybe it can. It heavily depends on the facilities it relies > on. Keep in mind the OS kernel has seen a lot of changes since > 2.2.6. :-) > > > > > 4. Does the 2.2.6-RELEASE offer a LiveCD or does it require a > > full install to a HDD? > > I'm not sure it will even _run_ on current hardware. Sure, you > could use a much older computer, set up networking, and use > an internal FTP server to get the data out... > > On the FTP server, I can only see floppy images for the 2.2.6 > installation process: > > > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/2.2.= 6-RELEASE/floppies/ > > So that should work. The old computer you're going to use > will surely have a floppy disk drive. :-) > > > > > 5. Do you have any additional thoughts to help me? > > Try it first with a current FreeBSD version. A live system > will probably be sufficient for testing. > > Good luck! > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have a 2.2.8 CD. If that helps, let me know. --=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... 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Byrne via freebsd-questions" > wrote: > >> We have an Cyrus IMAP service running on a BHyve FreeBSD-11.2p7 vm. >> It has 4 Gb allocated. I have noticed that top reports this: >> >> Mem: 164M Active, 204M Inact, 22M Laundry, 3426M Wired, 111M Free > > Are you running ZFS ? If so then most of the wired memory is > probably ARC. > Yes, we are running the vm using zfs. ARC: 2432M Total, 451M MFU, 1683M MRU, 8480K Anon, 38M Header, 252M Other 1828M Compressed, 3768M Uncompressed, 2.06:1 Ratio Could someone explain to me what I am seeing and why it is so? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 18:11:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF331490C88 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25B6C80E54 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1547662315; x=1550254315; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=rPDgEVoipbJMsbGWiZbnSioX6stMVbstN0TlaVAL1J4=; b=oEYP8eMn+cJTUIt8HBDu63RGFeSDEhW1lqr3Sv3uOZWqANQynDt09TmdyCpWyCNTnEEWc0wOGYi7Ecgayh3aAP8NKaFO0AvoSUec/z85W1d/3uvQvL1lyibEadAvfmo2iAK5fbIHSLuee4oraOAL9A4gUvNKnpa6fdd7L+ZRB8U= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTMwMDAwMDA5NjNhYzIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:11:49 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:11:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gjpfG-0005tg-Q4; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:11:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:11:46 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory usage appears a bit high Message-Id: <20190116181146.375e2358d2091380c74a8291@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <0c45ab67b1480d39dd87059495f6a27c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <35c451bc1733004b7d868f60da68c639.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190116173621.9d90157c1adf526298763415@sohara.org> <0c45ab67b1480d39dd87059495f6a27c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 25B6C80E54 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=oEYP8eMn; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.17 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.58), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.28), asn: 7381(-0.22), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.943,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:11:56 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:46:39 -0500 "James B. Byrne" wrote: > > > On Wed, January 16, 2019 12:36, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:31:14 -0500 > > "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" > > wrote: > > > >> We have an Cyrus IMAP service running on a BHyve FreeBSD-11.2p7 vm. > >> It has 4 Gb allocated. I have noticed that top reports this: > >> > >> Mem: 164M Active, 204M Inact, 22M Laundry, 3426M Wired, 111M Free > > > > Are you running ZFS ? If so then most of the wired memory is > > probably ARC. > > > > Yes, we are running the vm using zfs. > > ARC: 2432M Total, 451M MFU, 1683M MRU, 8480K Anon, 38M Header, > 252M Other > 1828M Compressed, 3768M Uncompressed, 2.06:1 Ratio The ARC - ZFS cache is always in wired memory because it's kernel space buffers and it does have a tendency to eat all the memory it can get unless you constrain it by setting vfs.zfs.arc_max sysctl. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 20:41:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D451494CE9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C69FD86B43 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 7A74D1F47D; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:41:28 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1547671288; bh=nWnLhLbedcHvRCKi7OEyvlmU+WTlOVS9OfHUmMMKxOg=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=GWi27JE1ndFUuVb1ukpvxhImJlXQV0KgbD9WNAjRGSF+KDt228O6ogXxjDbuZqXdG DWGxpL/KxybYplSdfWnAfgnnZBeVtxk4AnU54+njwXCfNepxpZRMGD1MwIfAsE+OlR 64aQtx4xSX6YyLJj6KQM8mOy4/VwLCL9QPaUqeaE= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on h2.n1.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from [10.0.10.15] (h1.pinyon.org [65.101.20.169]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 778BC1F474 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:41:27 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pinyon.org; s=DKIM; t=1547671287; bh=nWnLhLbedcHvRCKi7OEyvlmU+WTlOVS9OfHUmMMKxOg=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=Swshku2rqVf3gETondc8yA+/xnbjEfEQ0fFG3lxrGHnOpESMLPRB5wkbrl4jd9pbY oODg2YB6taWz26atOIOuUuFWslOiCHyhseKwYW+yF9Mt5AXbYEcVqXMIPoIFfypwrr gciu2nWTajf0i79lUxuKbU49hFrsFK7iK4GZDebY= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Russell L. Carter" Subject: iocage specific 12.0-RELEASE -> STABLE/12 Message-ID: <85740e12-819d-ba05-74b3-51f318f52d5c@pinyon.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:41:26 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C69FD86B43 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=DKIM header.b=GWi27JE1; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=DKIM header.b=Swshku2r; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=DKIM]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[h2.pinyon.org,h1.pinyon.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.94)[ip: (-9.74), ipnet: 65.100.0.0/14(-4.92), asn: 209(0.02), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.100.0.0/14, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:41:38 -0000 Greetings, While I wait on poudriere to build both firefox and chromium (32 threads, and it will still take a while), so that I can install iocage and dive into this newfangled technology called "jails" ;-), I have a basic question. I had a flash in the brain (be nice, I'm a geezer and slow, it's only taken me 20 years to figure this out) and realized I might be able to use iocage jails to quickly spin up dev environments that are skeletal compared to my desktop environment and so can minimize package version collisions that happen when I try to port stuff to FreeBSD. So I want the FreeBSD version of the jail to match the commit of my stable/12 host, including packages. However the iocage docs don't seem to mention this possibility. Is this something people do? I am guessing I can nfs mount my (different) build box's /usr/src, /usr/obj, and my package export directories into the jail, and use my source upgrade scripts and pkg upgrade as usual, correct? Are there any gotchas I should be aware of? Will the template mechanism make it easy to do the configuration just once, or is iocage expecting a point RELEASE, as suggested by the docs? I got to this point pondering how to install gnutls with guile bindings, so that I can see if I can get guix working on stable/12. Thanks, Russell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 20:45:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9EE1494DFA for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 090BC86CDB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B68B685; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:45:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bJhOk1AHCE1l; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0D24B67A; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:45:08 -0500 Message-ID: <8f1f1f6c5532a9b076d878ff98a9044c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <20190116181146.375e2358d2091380c74a8291@sohara.org> References: <35c451bc1733004b7d868f60da68c639.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190116173621.9d90157c1adf526298763415@sohara.org> <0c45ab67b1480d39dd87059495f6a27c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190116181146.375e2358d2091380c74a8291@sohara.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:45:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Memory usage appears a bit high From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 090BC86CDB X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.49 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.185.71.0/26]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx32.harte-lyne.ca]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[32.71.185.216.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[harte-lyne.ca,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12021, ipnet:216.185.64.0/20, country:CA]; IP_SCORE(-3.78)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 216.185.64.0/20(-4.94), asn: 12021(-3.96), country: CA(-0.09)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[harte-lyne.ca:s=dkim_hll]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:45:12 -0000 On Wed, January 16, 2019 13:11, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:46:39 -0500 > "James B. Byrne" wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, January 16, 2019 12:36, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:31:14 -0500 >> > "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" >> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> We have an Cyrus IMAP service running on a BHyve FreeBSD-11.2p7 >> vm. >> >> It has 4 Gb allocated. I have noticed that top reports this: >> >> >> >> Mem: 164M Active, 204M Inact, 22M Laundry, 3426M Wired, 111M Free >> > >> > Are you running ZFS ? If so then most of the wired memory is >> > probably ARC. >> > >> >> Yes, we are running the vm using zfs. >> >> ARC: 2432M Total, 451M MFU, 1683M MRU, 8480K Anon, 38M Header, >> 252M Other >> 1828M Compressed, 3768M Uncompressed, 2.06:1 Ratio > > The ARC - ZFS cache is always in wired memory because it's kernel > space buffers and it does have a tendency to eat all the memory > it can get unless you constrain it by setting vfs.zfs.arc_max sysctl. > As I have never meddled with the sysctl settings on this bhyve host I infer that this setting in sysctl is calculated based on the total memory allocated when the vm is created: vfs.zfs.arc_max: 3043799040 How much should be committed to arc in a 4GB system? What are the benefits / costs of more or less ram allocated to arc? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 20:48:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB991495057 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (mail.inhio.net [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B681B86F79 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from titanio (titanio.inhio.net [10.0.0.21]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 68CBC9CE9; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:48:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <0e45aca3145587de3b6d0b46a35ef2e7adea37b4.camel@inhio.net> Subject: Re: ZFS devouring RAM in less than 2 days on FBSD 11.2 From: ASV To: Luciano Mannucci , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:48:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <43fHM11f4dz1ftYp@baobab.bilink.it> References: <84a3d2e071d6651e7e15afccdf29b9e0970fb056.camel@inhio.net> <43fHM11f4dz1ftYp@baobab.bilink.it> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-m93hO/C24dkTUZ3XO1Zs" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B681B86F79 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asv@inhio.net designates 178.238.36.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asv@inhio.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.46 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inhio.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.inhio.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.66)[-0.664,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24971, ipnet:178.238.32.0/20, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: CZ(0.04)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:48:36 -0000 --=-m93hO/C24dkTUZ3XO1Zs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the reply. That's interesting. No I don't think either that the patch version makes any difference at all. So you have only 1 GB set to arc_max? How many filesystems do you have in the pool (or per pool)? On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 18:26 +0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:38:36 +0100 > ASV wrote: >=20 > > my old server has 16GB of RAM and after less than 2 days 14GB are > > already wired. It seems to me that ZFS ignores completely the > > 'arc_max' > > parameter. > >=20 > > Anybody is experiencing the same? >=20 > No. After lowering the zfs.arc everything appears fine. Here are my > parameters: >=20 > vfs.zfs.arc_min: 536870912 > vfs.zfs.arc_max: 1073741824 >=20 > root@hermes:~ # uptime > 6:22PM up 6 days, 3:51, 2 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.12, 0.11 > root@hermes:~ # top > Mem: 108M Active, 9934M Inact, 7570M Wired, 1565M Buf, 14G Free > ARC: 2214M Total, 838M MFU, 1099M MRU, 32K Anon, 6073K Header, 272M > Other > 873M Compressed, 1064M Uncompressed, 1.22:1 Ratio > Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free >=20 > My version is still 11.2-RELEASE-p7. 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FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.70)[-0.699,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:35:15 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:45:08 -0500 "James B. Byrne" wrote: > As I have never meddled with the sysctl settings on this bhyve host I > infer that this setting in sysctl is calculated based on the total > memory allocated when the vm is created: > > vfs.zfs.arc_max: 3043799040 Which is probably fine if the server isn't doing anything else that demands much memory. > How much should be committed to arc in a 4GB system? What are the > benefits / costs of more or less ram allocated to arc? The more RAM in the ARC the better the caching and therefore (with a cache friendly workload) the faster the filesystem and the lower the rate of wear on the drives. The downside - the ARC is wired so you need to assess how much RAM the server needs for other tasks and throttle the ARC to suit. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 07:56:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9DF1487602 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from shopzeus.com (shopzeus.com [87.229.70.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249F880869 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from [127.127.127.127] (localhost [127.127.127.127]) (Authenticated sender: gandalf) by shopzeus.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A8D4889C020 for ; 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MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:56:34 -0000 Yes, after updating the ports tree I could compile ffmpeg. I tought it was already updated, probably I mixed up two consoles and updated the ports tree on a different server, accidentally. Thank you!    Laszlo 2019-01-15 09:57 keltezéssel, Jack L. írta: > That port doesn't look like it's up to date, are you sure your > /usr/ports are up to date? > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 12:49 AM Nagy László Zsolt wrote: >> >> I just upgraded my ports tree, and followed instructions to change the >> default perl version. >> >> Here is my /etc/make.conf: >> >> PERL_VERSION=5.28 >> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=perl5=5.28 >> >> I cannot compile ffmpeg with libmp3lame support. (The default binary >> version does not include libmp3lame.) >> >> >> # cd /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg >> # make clean >> ===> Cleaning for ffmpeg-3.4.2_1,1 >> root@shopzeus:/usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg # make >> ===> ffmpeg-3.4.2_1,1 Invalid perl5 version 5.28. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> make: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg >> >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Laszlo >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 09:00:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B692F148A218 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:f740:c::4ae]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DB3282BDB for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (catnip [73.240.250.185]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B37638D2F for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 01:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.26.25.66] (leon.pilgrimaccounting.com [10.26.25.66]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59B80189 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 01:00:12 -0800 (PST) To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" From: Mel Pilgrim Subject: UEFI loader picking wrong native resolution, documented fixes don't work Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 01:00:15 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9DB3282BDB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com designates 2607:f740:c::4ae as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bluerosetech.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-1.69)[ipnet: 2607:f740:c::/48(-4.45), asn: 36236(-3.91), country: US(-0.08)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[echo.brtsvcs.net,foxtrot.brtsvcs.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.823,0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:2607:f740:c::/48, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[185.250.240.73.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:00:23 -0000 When my system boots, the UEFI loader chooses a resolution of 1600x1200, but the connected monitor only supports up to 1280x1024. My understanding is that the UEFI loader picks the native resolution, so I'm puzzled why it isn't working. The system is a Supermicro X11SSH-LN4F with a Xeon E3-1245 v6. FreeBSD 11.2. The remote console works fine. Here's a list of everything I've tried adding to /boot/loader.conf: gop set N exec gop set N mode N exec mode N hw.vga.textmode=1 kern.vt.fb.default_mode="1280x1024" I tried values of 0 through 4 for N. None of it worked (the console remains at 1600x1200). If I escape to the loader, I can manually type "mode 2" and the loader will switch to, and the console will stay at 800x600. Oddly, only that and "mode 3" (1600x1200) work. Modes 0 and 1 produce broken results where the resolution switches, but the console doesn't use the entire screen. Adding kern.vty="sc" causes the loader to hang after displaying: Booting... Start @ 0xffffffff80310000 ... EFI framebuffer information: addr, size 0xde000000, 0x753000 dimensions 1600 x 1200 stride 1600 masks 0x00ff0000, 0x0000ff00, 0x000000ff, 0xff000000 requiring a hard reset. I tried building and install graphics/drm-next-kmod so that I could load i915kms.ko that supports Kaby Lake, but it causes a panic when the DRM probe happens. Is this is some quirk of the IPMI-enabled console returning bad capabilities when vt probes the display? Is anyone else running FreeBSD 11 on a Supermicro X11SSH with integrated graphics and having this problem? How do I tell the vt console to use a different resolution? Am I just screwed and now have to buy a new head unit that can do 1600x1200? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 10:01:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99048148D172 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3009E858F8 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D0A01759E for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/9D0A01759E; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: iocage specific 12.0-RELEASE -> STABLE/12 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <85740e12-819d-ba05-74b3-51f318f52d5c@pinyon.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <1f7b2afa-b48a-c9bd-baaa-32f01e8a6877@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:29 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85740e12-819d-ba05-74b3-51f318f52d5c@pinyon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:34 -0000 On 16/01/2019 20:41, Russell L. Carter wrote: > Greetings, > > While I wait on poudriere to build both firefox and chromium (32 > threads, and it will still take a while), so that I can install iocage > and dive into this newfangled technology called "jails" ;-), I have a > basic question. > > I had a flash in the brain (be nice, I'm a geezer and slow, it's only > taken me 20 years to figure this out) and realized I might be able to > use iocage jails to quickly spin up dev environments that are skeletal > compared to my desktop environment and so can minimize package version > collisions that happen when I try to port stuff to FreeBSD.  So I want > the FreeBSD version of the jail to match the commit of my stable/12 > host, including packages.  However the iocage docs don't seem to > mention this possibility.  Is this something people do?  I am guessing > I can nfs mount my (different) build box's /usr/src, /usr/obj, and my > package export directories into the jail, and use my source upgrade > scripts and pkg upgrade as usual, correct?  Are there any gotchas I > should be aware of?  Will the template mechanism make it easy to do > the configuration just once, or is iocage expecting a point RELEASE, > as suggested by the docs? I do almost exactly this, except I use a bunch of home-grown ansible code to create and configure jails. It's reasonably quick, but I don't tend to spin up and discard jails that frequently. I typically dedicate a ZFS heirarchy to each jail, and I install FreeBSD from my build tree by setting DESTDIR: /usr/src:# make installworld DESTDIR=/jails/somejail etc. etc. Then I have my own pkg repo behind a webserver for handling installed software. Works pretty well. Of course, that's the other big use of jails in the way that you describe: poudriere will spin up some number of jails for build environments, and these are very much use-and-discard jails. > I got to this point pondering how to install gnutls with guile > bindings, so that I can see if I can get guix working on stable/12. Yes -- creating youself a clean environment to build and test without needing to worry about conflicts with all sort of other software you have installed is definitely a job for jails. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 10:31:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A31D148E284; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=JHsv=PZ=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C89F86944; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=JHsv=PZ=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from mordor.lan (213.219.145.216.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.145.216]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B6A31D4FC18; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:30:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:30:43 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Supermicro HBA Message-ID: <20190117103043.GA44618@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0C89F86944 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=JHsv=PZ=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=JHsv=PZ=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.26)[0.256,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.21)[asn: 2611(-1.06), country: BE(0.00)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.bebif.be,mx2.bebif.be]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=JHsv=PZ=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[216.145.219.213.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=JHsv=PZ=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:31:03 -0000 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, We are planning to replace some (web) applications servers (currently running HPE) with Supermicro and the vendor offers the following=20 choices for the Hardware Raid Controller/HBA 4P part: 1) Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008 8 x SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, up to 122 hard drives via expander backplane, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS + =E2=82=AC 205,6 2) LSI 9300-4I, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, tot 256 harde schijven via expander backplanes, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS + =E2=82=AC 214,5 3) LSI MegaRAID 9341-4i bulk, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal entry level hardware RAID, no cache/BBU possible, PCI-e + =E2=82=AC 177,97 4) LSI MegaRAID 9361-4i 1GB cache, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal hardware RAID, max. 240 hdd using expander backplanes + =E2=82=AC 401,7 5) LSI 9300-4i4e, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, 4 x internal, 4 x external, up to 256 hard drives via expander backplane, Nexenta Certified, ideal for ZFS, PCI-E + =E2=82=AC 273,95 6) LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e bulk, 8 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs, 4 x external and 4 x internal hardware RAID, 1024MB cache, up to 128 hard drives via expander backplane, support for SSD CacheCade 2.0 write and read caching, CacheVault support (advised), ideal for high en + =E2=82=AC 676 As the plan is to use ZFS, I was planning to choose the=20 "Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008" (it looks like it is supported by mpr) and I was wondering if anyone has any feedback on it ? Would another option be a better choice ? Thank you! Julien --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:50:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:50:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Julien Cigar Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1443717602.966565.1547729422870@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20190117103043.GA44618@mordor.lan> References: <20190117103043.GA44618@mordor.lan> Subject: Re: Supermicro HBA MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.12857 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2917B8C2B8 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.79)[0.786,0]; MANY_INVISIBLE_PARTS(0.40)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.968,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[200.184.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(1.06)[ip: (3.43), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.09), asn: 36646(0.88), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.964,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:50:28 -0000 I've used the LSI 3008.=C2=A0 I haven't had any issues with it.=C2=A0 It i= s supported by that driver.=C2=A0 (I haven't built a server with one lately= ) Yes, avoid all the hardware RAID cards they are unnecessary and a JBOD cont= roller with ZFS is a good choice.=C2=A0 Make sure it supports the SAS3 spec= of 12 Gb/s.=C2=A0 That's where the speed is.=C2=A0 I found the following a= s an FYI. Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews |=20 |=20 |=20 | | | | | |=20 | |=20 Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews The Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBAs (which share the same controller as the LSI= 9300-8i HBAs) are engineered to deli... | | | I looked at it as more of a specs education.=C2=A0 It looks solid.=C2=A0 I'= ve used Supermicro without issue in the past.=C2=A0 (I just decommissioned = my home server which was Supermicro and has that very card in it.) There is a lot to consider when using ZFS beyond just the hardware.=C2=A0 D= on't get me wrong.... I want to have ZFS' baby.=C2=A0 :D=C2=A0 Just be sure= of all the nuances of HDD, SSD, Hybrids, how much memory you have to dedic= ate to ZFS and CPU cores you have.=C2=A0 You have to take into consideratio= n all the ZFS features you're planning to make use of now and in the future= . Also, are you ever planning on expanding the storage to have an additional = JBOD shelf?=C2=A0 If so, you may want a card with some external connectors.= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Some of the people at=C2=A0http://www.ixsystems.com=C2=A0have done some ser= ious research on application specific throughput of ZFS and I believe they = also spec out SuperMicro servers too.=C2=A0 It comes down to IOPS, raw thro= ughput, etc.=C2=A0 (I'm actually talking to them right now about some very = large backup servers that can handle 0.75 PB.... The consideration I have i= s space and using RAIDZ2 and multiple streams from 10Gb interfaces and seri= ous compression and deduplication.=C2=A0 SO,=C2=A0 IOPS not so much, but he= avy raw I/O and RAID checksum computation and dedup. There's also things like dedicated SSDs as ZIL and cache to be thought abou= t. So:=C2=A0 go up the theoretical OSI layer model and optimize each layer rig= ht through the application layer. :D=C2=A0 (I actually find it fun) I hope this all helps. P On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 4:33:38 AM CST, Julien Cigar wrote: =20 =20 Hello, We are planning to replace some (web) applications servers (currently running HPE) with Supermicro and the vendor offers the following=20 choices for the Hardware Raid Controller/HBA 4P part: 1) Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008 8 x SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, up to 122 hard drives via expander backplane, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS + =E2=82=AC 205,6 2) LSI 9300-4I, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, tot 256 harde schijven via expander backplanes, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS + =E2=82=AC 214,5 3) LSI MegaRAID 9341-4i bulk, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal entry level hardware RAID, no cache/BBU possible, PCI-e + =E2=82=AC 177,97 4) LSI MegaRAID 9361-4i 1GB cache, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal hardware RAID, max. 240 hdd using expander backplanes + =E2=82=AC 401,7 5) LSI 9300-4i4e, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, 4 x internal, 4 x external, up to 256 hard drives via expander backplane, Nexenta Certified, ideal for ZFS, PCI-E + =E2=82=AC 273,95 6) LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e bulk, 8 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs, 4 x external and 4 x internal hardware RAID, 1024MB cache, up to 128 hard drives via expander backplane, support for SSD CacheCade 2.0 write and read caching, CacheVault support (advised), ideal for high en + =E2=82=AC 676 As the plan is to use ZFS, I was planning to choose the=20 "Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008" (it looks like it is supported by mpr) and I was wondering if anyone has any feedback on it ? Would another option be a better choice ? Thank you! Julien --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11=C2=A0 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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I'd say opt for the Broadcom card, their support + drivers + firmware downloads is much better than Supermicro's FTP site. Broadcom keeps whitepapers, archive of all their past released firmwares. Must dos: - Make sure to do hot-add hot-remove disks (with workload). - Make sure to do disk led blink light tests. You will have to use the sas3ircu utility, unless you have OS specific utilities to find them. - Perform an fio disk benchmark to get baseline system performance. https://github.com/axboe/fio Issues I've seen: - SuperMicro's FTP site for their firmware doesn't include archive copies, only latest. Sometimes latest FW doesn't work nicely and hopefully you have an old FW downloaded prior. - SuperMicro FTP site: ftp://ftp.supermicro.com/Driver/SAS/LSI/ - Sometimes SM HBA's FW and LSI HBA's FW can be used interchangeable and sometimes not. If you flashed a LSI HBA with SMC firmware, then you have to add -nossid when flashing using the sas3flash when going back to LSI firmware. Sometimes it flashes fine and everything looks ok, you see all the disks, but when you blink disk 4, it blinks disk 1. When you physically remove disk 2, ZFS says disk 3 is gone. It's best to thoroughly qualify the system after FW flash. Broadcom page for 9300-8i - https://www.broadcom.com/products/storage/host-bus-adapters/sas-9300-8i#ove= rview - It's a bit hard to understand all the different downloads, but they're helpful when you understand the workflow to flash FW and use the sas3ircu utility. In the latest release, they've bundled all the required downloads into the Firmware download. In the past you would have to individually find the different ROM and BIN files. All said, Supermicro HBA when it's working, it works pretty well. I've seen HBA failures, but the systems were usually 5+ years old. - If you have multiple HBAs in a system, record which physical controller is on PCIe slot is the logical controller reported by OS. Otherwise when a single HBA fails, it's a bit hard to trace which software HBA is which physical HBA. Thanks, Tenzin On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:51 AM Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-fs < freebsd-fs@freebsd.org> wrote: > I've used the LSI 3008. I haven't had any issues with it. It is > supported by that driver. (I haven't built a server with one lately) > Yes, avoid all the hardware RAID cards they are unnecessary and a JBOD > controller with ZFS is a good choice. Make sure it supports the SAS3 spe= c > of 12 Gb/s. That's where the speed is. I found the following as an FYI. > Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews > > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews > > The Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBAs (which share the same controller as the > LSI 9300-8i HBAs) are engineered to deli... > | > > | > > | > > > I looked at it as more of a specs education. It looks solid. I've used > Supermicro without issue in the past. (I just decommissioned my home > server which was Supermicro and has that very card in it.) > There is a lot to consider when using ZFS beyond just the hardware. Don'= t > get me wrong.... I want to have ZFS' baby. :D Just be sure of all the > nuances of HDD, SSD, Hybrids, how much memory you have to dedicate to ZFS > and CPU cores you have. You have to take into consideration all the ZFS > features you're planning to make use of now and in the future. > Also, are you ever planning on expanding the storage to have an additiona= l > JBOD shelf? If so, you may want a card with some external connectors. > Some of the people at http://www.ixsystems.com have done some serious > research on application specific throughput of ZFS and I believe they als= o > spec out SuperMicro servers too. It comes down to IOPS, raw throughput, > etc. (I'm actually talking to them right now about some very large backu= p > servers that can handle 0.75 PB.... The consideration I have is space and > using RAIDZ2 and multiple streams from 10Gb interfaces and serious > compression and deduplication. SO, IOPS not so much, but heavy raw I/O > and RAID checksum computation and dedup. > There's also things like dedicated SSDs as ZIL and cache to be thought > about. > So: go up the theoretical OSI layer model and optimize each layer right > through the application layer. :D (I actually find it fun) > I hope this all helps. > P > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 4:33:38 AM CST, Julien Cigar > wrote: > > Hello, > > We are planning to replace some (web) applications servers (currently > running HPE) with Supermicro and the vendor offers the following > choices for the Hardware Raid Controller/HBA 4P part: > > 1) Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008 8 x SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, = up > to 122 hard drives via expander backplane, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS > + =E2=82=AC 205,6 > > 2) LSI 9300-4I, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, tot 256 harde schijven via > expander backplanes, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS > + =E2=82=AC 214,5 > > 3) LSI MegaRAID 9341-4i bulk, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal entry level > hardware RAID, no cache/BBU possible, PCI-e > + =E2=82=AC 177,97 > > 4) LSI MegaRAID 9361-4i 1GB cache, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal > hardware RAID, max. 240 hdd using expander backplanes > + =E2=82=AC 401,7 > > 5) LSI 9300-4i4e, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, 4 x internal, 4 x externa= l, > up to 256 hard drives via expander backplane, Nexenta Certified, ideal > for ZFS, PCI-E > + =E2=82=AC 273,95 > > 6) LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e bulk, 8 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs, 4 x external and 4 x > internal hardware RAID, 1024MB cache, up to 128 hard drives via expander > backplane, support for SSD CacheCade 2.0 write and read caching, > CacheVault support (advised), ideal for high en > + =E2=82=AC 676 > > As the plan is to use ZFS, I was planning to choose the > "Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008" (it looks like it is supported by > mpr) and I was wondering if anyone has any feedback on it ? Would > another option be a better choice ? > > Thank you! > Julien > > -- > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 14:43:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4EE1498EA6 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D5366AB3E for ; 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[29.4.111.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:43:16 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jan 2019, at 21:41, Russell L. Carter wrote: > Greetings, > > While I wait on poudriere to build both firefox and chromium (32 > threads, and it will still take a while), so that I can install iocage > and dive into this newfangled technology called "jails" ;-), I have a > basic question. > > I had a flash in the brain (be nice, I'm a geezer and slow, it's only > taken me 20 years to figure this out) and realized I might be able to > use iocage jails to quickly spin up dev environments that are skeletal > compared to my desktop environment and so can minimize package version > collisions that happen when I try to port stuff to FreeBSD. So I want > the FreeBSD version of the jail to match the commit of my stable/12 > host, including packages. However the iocage docs don't seem to > mention this possibility. Is this something people do? I am guessing > I can nfs mount my (different) build box's /usr/src, /usr/obj, and my > package export directories into the jail, and use my source upgrade > scripts and pkg upgrade as usual, correct? Are there any gotchas I > should be aware of? Will the template mechanism make it easy to do > the configuration just once, or is iocage expecting a point RELEASE, > as suggested by the docs? > > I got to this point pondering how to install gnutls with guile > bindings, so that I can see if I can get guix working on stable/12. poudriere has an interactive mode, so you get dropped into a working jail: sudo poudriere bulk -j 12_0_amd64 -i category/port This probably does everything you need without needing iocage. A+ Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 16:01:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D6B149B77C for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2716E725 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574B371804C for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Supermicro HBA To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190117103043.GA44618@mordor.lan> <1443717602.966565.1547729422870@mail.yahoo.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <82e530db-7cfc-0899-2af1-3972cd5caae6@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:20 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4C2716E725 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.36)[0.359,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; URIBL_RED(3.50)[ixsystems.com.multi.uribl.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.56)[0.562,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; HAS_ANON_DOMAIN(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.60)[0.604,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:01:28 -0000 On 1/17/19 8:28 AM, Tenzin Lhakhang wrote: > If cost is negligible between Supermicro HBA using 3008 controller versus > Broadcom/Avago/LSI card. I'd say opt for the Broadcom card, their > support + drivers + firmware downloads is much better than Supermicro's FTP > site. Broadcom keeps whitepapers, archive of all their past released > firmwares. > > Must dos: > - Make sure to do hot-add hot-remove disks (with workload). > - Make sure to do disk led blink light tests. You will have to use the > sas3ircu utility, unless you have OS specific utilities to find them. > - Perform an fio disk benchmark to get baseline system performance. > https://github.com/axboe/fio > > Issues I've seen: > - SuperMicro's FTP site for their firmware doesn't include archive copies, > only latest. Sometimes latest FW doesn't work nicely and hopefully you > have an old FW downloaded prior. > - SuperMicro FTP site: ftp://ftp.supermicro.com/Driver/SAS/LSI/ > - Sometimes SM HBA's FW and LSI HBA's FW can be used interchangeable and > sometimes not. If you flashed a LSI HBA with SMC firmware, then you have > to add -nossid when flashing using the sas3flash when going back to LSI > firmware. Sometimes it flashes fine and everything looks ok, you see all > the disks, but when you blink disk 4, it blinks disk 1. When you > physically remove disk 2, ZFS says disk 3 is gone. It's best to thoroughly > qualify the system after FW flash. Thanks, Tenzin, for nice write up! I only would udd one general thing about Sipermicro. If you get Supermicro system board ("motherboard" is common jargon name for system board for over couple of decades), then make sure you go with Intel CPUs. If you need/prefer AMD CPUs, stay away from Supermicro. They are notoriously poorly designing system boards for AMD CPUs. I've seen several bad/flaky due to poor design myself (that is for AMD CPUs, not Intel); you also can search reports of that on the web. In my book one bad is one too many if it is you who got that. I tend to get Tyan ones whenever I can, and definitely when I want AMD CPUs. Tyan is in server board business since forever, and they never had flops I would hear about. Sorry about small rant; I hope this may help someone. Valeri > > Broadcom page for 9300-8i > - > https://www.broadcom.com/products/storage/host-bus-adapters/sas-9300-8i#overview > - It's a bit hard to understand all the different downloads, but they're > helpful when you understand the workflow to flash FW and use the sas3ircu > utility. In the latest release, they've bundled all the required downloads > into the Firmware download. In the past you would have to individually > find the different ROM and BIN files. > > All said, Supermicro HBA when it's working, it works pretty well. I've > seen HBA failures, but the systems were usually 5+ years old. > - If you have multiple HBAs in a system, record which physical controller > is on PCIe slot is the logical controller reported by OS. Otherwise when a > single HBA fails, it's a bit hard to trace which software HBA is which > physical HBA. > > Thanks, > Tenzin > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:51 AM Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-fs < > freebsd-fs@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> I've used the LSI 3008. I haven't had any issues with it. It is >> supported by that driver. (I haven't built a server with one lately) >> Yes, avoid all the hardware RAID cards they are unnecessary and a JBOD >> controller with ZFS is a good choice. Make sure it supports the SAS3 spec >> of 12 Gb/s. That's where the speed is. I found the following as an FYI. >> Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews >> >> >> | >> | >> | >> | | | >> >> | >> >> | >> | >> | | >> Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews >> >> The Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBAs (which share the same controller as the >> LSI 9300-8i HBAs) are engineered to deli... >> | >> >> | >> >> | >> >> >> I looked at it as more of a specs education. It looks solid. I've used >> Supermicro without issue in the past. (I just decommissioned my home >> server which was Supermicro and has that very card in it.) >> There is a lot to consider when using ZFS beyond just the hardware. Don't >> get me wrong.... I want to have ZFS' baby. :D Just be sure of all the >> nuances of HDD, SSD, Hybrids, how much memory you have to dedicate to ZFS >> and CPU cores you have. You have to take into consideration all the ZFS >> features you're planning to make use of now and in the future. >> Also, are you ever planning on expanding the storage to have an additional >> JBOD shelf? If so, you may want a card with some external connectors. >> Some of the people at http://www.ixsystems.com have done some serious >> research on application specific throughput of ZFS and I believe they also >> spec out SuperMicro servers too. It comes down to IOPS, raw throughput, >> etc. (I'm actually talking to them right now about some very large backup >> servers that can handle 0.75 PB.... The consideration I have is space and >> using RAIDZ2 and multiple streams from 10Gb interfaces and serious >> compression and deduplication. SO, IOPS not so much, but heavy raw I/O >> and RAID checksum computation and dedup. >> There's also things like dedicated SSDs as ZIL and cache to be thought >> about. >> So: go up the theoretical OSI layer model and optimize each layer right >> through the application layer. :D (I actually find it fun) >> I hope this all helps. >> P >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 4:33:38 AM CST, Julien Cigar >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> We are planning to replace some (web) applications servers (currently >> running HPE) with Supermicro and the vendor offers the following >> choices for the Hardware Raid Controller/HBA 4P part: >> >> 1) Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008 8 x SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, up >> to 122 hard drives via expander backplane, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS >> + € 205,6 >> >> 2) LSI 9300-4I, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, tot 256 harde schijven via >> expander backplanes, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS >> + € 214,5 >> >> 3) LSI MegaRAID 9341-4i bulk, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal entry level >> hardware RAID, no cache/BBU possible, PCI-e >> + € 177,97 >> >> 4) LSI MegaRAID 9361-4i 1GB cache, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal >> hardware RAID, max. 240 hdd using expander backplanes >> + € 401,7 >> >> 5) LSI 9300-4i4e, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, 4 x internal, 4 x external, >> up to 256 hard drives via expander backplane, Nexenta Certified, ideal >> for ZFS, PCI-E >> + € 273,95 >> >> 6) LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e bulk, 8 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs, 4 x external and 4 x >> internal hardware RAID, 1024MB cache, up to 128 hard drives via expander >> backplane, support for SSD CacheCade 2.0 write and read caching, >> CacheVault support (advised), ideal for high en >> + € 676 >> >> As the plan is to use ZFS, I was planning to choose the >> "Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008" (it looks like it is supported by >> mpr) and I was wondering if anyone has any feedback on it ? Would >> another option be a better choice ? >> >> Thank you! >> Julien >> >> -- >> Julien Cigar >> Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) >> PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 >> No trees were killed in the creation of this message. >> However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 18:34:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932DF14A04B5 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "outbound.ifdnrg.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4384674FAF for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x0HI5Bto009707 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:05:12 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.0.10] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Paul Macdonald Subject: certbot: OCSP check failed Message-ID: <31b9ce5f-4134-ee49-47bf-10af7244d21e@ifdnrg.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:05:12 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4384674FAF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.17 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.200.98.0/23]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ifdnrg.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ifdnrg.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[as1.ifdnrg.com,as3.ifdnrg.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[38.98.200.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20860, ipnet:193.200.98.0/23, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(-0.14)[asn: 20860(-0.60), country: GB(-0.09)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ifdnrg.com:s=ifdnrg-default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[ifdnrg.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.08)[0.082,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:34:33 -0000 i'm seeing this for all certs on several boxes ( that are online!) mostly posting in case someone knows who to notify/where to check (@Matthew?) 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Carter wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> While I wait on poudriere to build both firefox and chromium (32 >> threads, and it will still take a while), so that I can install iocage >> and dive into this newfangled technology called "jails" ;-), I have a >> basic question. [...] > poudriere has an interactive mode, so you get dropped into a working jail: > > sudo poudriere bulk -j 12_0_amd64 -i category/port > > This probably does everything you need without needing iocage. Thanks, that's an excellent reminder for speeding up building a port or several, I should go write the two line script to do that mindlessly. Best regards, Russell > A+ > Dave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 18:43:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BB514A0B7A for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound2.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "outbound.ifdnrg.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79AD97554D for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x0HIhREs035692 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:43:27 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.0.10] Subject: Re: certbot: OCSP check failed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <31b9ce5f-4134-ee49-47bf-10af7244d21e@ifdnrg.com> From: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:43:28 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <31b9ce5f-4134-ee49-47bf-10af7244d21e@ifdnrg.com> Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 79AD97554D X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.26 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.200.98.0/23]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ifdnrg.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: as1.ifdnrg.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ifdnrg.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.01)[-0.012,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[38.98.200.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20860, ipnet:193.200.98.0/23, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(-0.14)[asn: 20860(-0.62), country: GB(-0.09)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ifdnrg.com:s=ifdnrg-default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[ifdnrg.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:43:31 -0000 ignore, seems to have resolved. On 17/01/2019 18:05, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wrote: > > i'm seeing this for all certs on several boxes ( that are online!) > > mostly posting in case someone knows who to notify/where to check > (@Matthew?) > > OCSP check failed for > /usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live//cert.pem (are we offline?) > > Paul > > > -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- Virtual Servers from £50.00pm High specification Dedicated Servers from £150.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 18:59:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B61B14A15B6 for ; 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NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.897,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:59:20 -0000 I have two servers using the AOC-S3008L-L8i (one 400TB+, the other 140TB (SSD)). They both work great, no real issues performance wise. The firmware update is a bit of a pain with the supermicro card (make sure you write down the SAS ID of the card before you do the update), but they work well. shawn On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:03 AM Valeri Galtsev > > On 1/17/19 8:28 AM, Tenzin Lhakhang wrote: > > If cost is negligible between Supermicro HBA using 3008 controller vers= us > > Broadcom/Avago/LSI card. I'd say opt for the Broadcom card, their > > support + drivers + firmware downloads is much better than Supermicro's > FTP > > site. Broadcom keeps whitepapers, archive of all their past released > > firmwares. > > > > Must dos: > > - Make sure to do hot-add hot-remove disks (with workload). > > - Make sure to do disk led blink light tests. You will have to use the > > sas3ircu utility, unless you have OS specific utilities to find them. > > - Perform an fio disk benchmark to get baseline system performance. > > https://github.com/axboe/fio > > > > Issues I've seen: > > - SuperMicro's FTP site for their firmware doesn't include archive > copies, > > only latest. Sometimes latest FW doesn't work nicely and hopefully you > > have an old FW downloaded prior. > > - SuperMicro FTP site: ftp://ftp.supermicro.com/Driver/SAS/LSI/ > > - Sometimes SM HBA's FW and LSI HBA's FW can be used interchangeable an= d > > sometimes not. If you flashed a LSI HBA with SMC firmware, then you ha= ve > > to add -nossid when flashing using the sas3flash when going back to LSI > > firmware. Sometimes it flashes fine and everything looks ok, you see a= ll > > the disks, but when you blink disk 4, it blinks disk 1. When you > > physically remove disk 2, ZFS says disk 3 is gone. It's best to > thoroughly > > qualify the system after FW flash. > > Thanks, Tenzin, for nice write up! > > I only would udd one general thing about Sipermicro. If you get > Supermicro system board ("motherboard" is common jargon name for system > board for over couple of decades), then make sure you go with Intel > CPUs. If you need/prefer AMD CPUs, stay away from Supermicro. They are > notoriously poorly designing system boards for AMD CPUs. I've seen > several bad/flaky due to poor design myself (that is for AMD CPUs, not > Intel); you also can search reports of that on the web. In my book one > bad is one too many if it is you who got that. I tend to get Tyan ones > whenever I can, and definitely when I want AMD CPUs. Tyan is in server > board business since forever, and they never had flops I would hear about= . > > Sorry about small rant; I hope this may help someone. > > Valeri > > > > > Broadcom page for 9300-8i > > - > > > https://www.broadcom.com/products/storage/host-bus-adapters/sas-9300-8i#o= verview > > - It's a bit hard to understand all the different downloads, but they'r= e > > helpful when you understand the workflow to flash FW and use the sas3ir= cu > > utility. In the latest release, they've bundled all the required > downloads > > into the Firmware download. In the past you would have to individually > > find the different ROM and BIN files. > > > > All said, Supermicro HBA when it's working, it works pretty well. I've > > seen HBA failures, but the systems were usually 5+ years old. > > - If you have multiple HBAs in a system, record which physical controll= er > > is on PCIe slot is the logical controller reported by OS. Otherwise > when a > > single HBA fails, it's a bit hard to trace which software HBA is which > > physical HBA. > > > > Thanks, > > Tenzin > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:51 AM Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-fs < > > freebsd-fs@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > >> I've used the LSI 3008. I haven't had any issues with it. It is > >> supported by that driver. (I haven't built a server with one lately) > >> Yes, avoid all the hardware RAID cards they are unnecessary and a JBOD > >> controller with ZFS is a good choice. Make sure it supports the SAS3 > spec > >> of 12 Gb/s. That's where the speed is. I found the following as an > FYI. > >> Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Review= s > >> > >> > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | | | > >> > >> | > >> > >> | > >> | > >> | | > >> Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Review= s > >> > >> The Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBAs (which share the same controller as th= e > >> LSI 9300-8i HBAs) are engineered to deli... > >> | > >> > >> | > >> > >> | > >> > >> > >> I looked at it as more of a specs education. It looks solid. I've us= ed > >> Supermicro without issue in the past. (I just decommissioned my home > >> server which was Supermicro and has that very card in it.) > >> There is a lot to consider when using ZFS beyond just the hardware. > Don't > >> get me wrong.... I want to have ZFS' baby. :D Just be sure of all th= e > >> nuances of HDD, SSD, Hybrids, how much memory you have to dedicate to > ZFS > >> and CPU cores you have. You have to take into consideration all the Z= FS > >> features you're planning to make use of now and in the future. > >> Also, are you ever planning on expanding the storage to have an > additional > >> JBOD shelf? If so, you may want a card with some external connectors. > >> Some of the people at http://www.ixsystems.com have done some serious > >> research on application specific throughput of ZFS and I believe they > also > >> spec out SuperMicro servers too. It comes down to IOPS, raw throughpu= t, > >> etc. (I'm actually talking to them right now about some very large > backup > >> servers that can handle 0.75 PB.... The consideration I have is space > and > >> using RAIDZ2 and multiple streams from 10Gb interfaces and serious > >> compression and deduplication. SO, IOPS not so much, but heavy raw I= /O > >> and RAID checksum computation and dedup. > >> There's also things like dedicated SSDs as ZIL and cache to be thought > >> about. > >> So: go up the theoretical OSI layer model and optimize each layer rig= ht > >> through the application layer. :D (I actually find it fun) > >> I hope this all helps. > >> P > >> > >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 4:33:38 AM CST, Julien Cigar > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> We are planning to replace some (web) applications servers (currently > >> running HPE) with Supermicro and the vendor offers the following > >> choices for the Hardware Raid Controller/HBA 4P part: > >> > >> 1) Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008 8 x SATA/SAS III JBOD > controller, up > >> to 122 hard drives via expander backplane, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZF= S > >> + =E2=82=AC 205,6 > >> > >> 2) LSI 9300-4I, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, tot 256 harde schijven v= ia > >> expander backplanes, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS > >> + =E2=82=AC 214,5 > >> > >> 3) LSI MegaRAID 9341-4i bulk, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal entry level > >> hardware RAID, no cache/BBU possible, PCI-e > >> + =E2=82=AC 177,97 > >> > >> 4) LSI MegaRAID 9361-4i 1GB cache, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal > >> hardware RAID, max. 240 hdd using expander backplanes > >> + =E2=82=AC 401,7 > >> > >> 5) LSI 9300-4i4e, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, 4 x internal, 4 x > external, > >> up to 256 hard drives via expander backplane, Nexenta Certified, ideal > >> for ZFS, PCI-E > >> + =E2=82=AC 273,95 > >> > >> 6) LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e bulk, 8 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs, 4 x external and 4= x > >> internal hardware RAID, 1024MB cache, up to 128 hard drives via expand= er > >> backplane, support for SSD CacheCade 2.0 write and read caching, > >> CacheVault support (advised), ideal for high en > >> + =E2=82=AC 676 > >> > >> As the plan is to use ZFS, I was planning to choose the > >> "Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008" (it looks like it is supported b= y > >> mpr) and I was wondering if anyone has any feedback on it ? 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The method I used is basically: #> rm work/.build_done.texmacs._usr_local #> make build When I was looking for the solution I opened a discussion thread on the FreeBSD Forum: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-tweak-the-source-of-an-existing-port.69164/#post-413736 The problem is that a user says the method to him is not working. Could you please tell me what is the official way to recompile a port? 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User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:23:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Eo1JyxL5z57PrR74VUdS7v5fDWBvBJFm9 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="OWkdGTBMOWoaSz4uIqwzNHgLVZPofOXGY"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6ec8f257-3ca0-38ba-2e07-aaf8f835ad63@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: certbot: OCSP check failed References: <31b9ce5f-4134-ee49-47bf-10af7244d21e@ifdnrg.com> In-Reply-To: <31b9ce5f-4134-ee49-47bf-10af7244d21e@ifdnrg.com> --OWkdGTBMOWoaSz4uIqwzNHgLVZPofOXGY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17/01/2019 18:05, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wrote: > i'm seeing this for all certs on several boxes ( that are online!) >=20 > mostly posting in case someone knows who to notify/where to check > (@Matthew?) >=20 > OCSP check failed for /usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live//cert.pem= > (are we offline?) OCSP checking relies on making a web query to one of the CA's servers. It could be that site was temporarily offline or somehow inaccessible to you. That's where I'd start looking to debug this. 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text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17/01/2019 19:38, Nicola Mingotti via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have recently modified the port editors/texmacs and found a way > to easily recompile it after each C++ code modification. >=20 > The method I used is basically: > #> rm work/.build_done.texmacs._usr_local > #> make build >=20 > When I was looking for the solution I opened a discussion > thread on the FreeBSD Forum: > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-tweak-the-source-of-an-existi= ng-port.69164/#post-413736 >=20 >=20 > The problem is that a user says the method to him is not working. >=20 > Could you please tell me what is the official way to recompile a port? > I am aware of > #> maker clean > #> make build > but that way too slow, it recompiles all, even if nor necessary. Ports aren't really set up for incremental development the way you are doing. For normal use they're compiled one time into a package and then installed. Where you need to modify the port, generally you'ld get into a cycle of compile, modify, clean, re-compile from scratch, rinse, repeat ... For the vast majority of ports, the compilation step takes only a few minutes on reasonable hardware so this isn't really a huge burden. Bigger and more complex programs will need an iterative approach as you are doing to develop local patches and then a final clean and complete build. You can often just run make from within the $WRKDIR of the port to incrementally rebuild after code changes, or you can remove the =2Ebuild_done file and rerun the build target of the port. Cheers, Matthew --cuKntJZMCyg5yML1mZaItotmwyXdSdMjI-- --AkTXO15BkcDqZyZZ4XpdWVTparbOBUASD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAlxBH0pfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDE5 RjE1NEVDQkYxMTJFNTA1NDRFM0YzMDAwNTEzRjEwRTBBOUU0RTcACgkQAFE/EOCp 5Offlg/+I3mRhdTp27v8UNZx4oY+rVSioL36+XvlA7OQe6CmfNazQzofEGyD5Mds lHr9d7rCuzPvpdVyfTZCy1hRCvPZR0YCh3R1GfUFCVjR1DoiEPDL9x5k5eqhzkIS rudcHPy8oMPFNY2dvnh4ijZHBt19ayKGYpH7njD8myrgc24F/MLV8Ejd6NWr74WL 2ZxkhVjv50NqdiCygBpSJo9i98jzR91qsCfyI4jS7AZDfU5TJ4uHeLQDSRNO8DfO U4gLfFpOvQ9nARSB5xrFqz4RI6o0zJx8PeUSJ8DLOy+yefS/J4b+TVQRXyz9+Sde BawusRfHzO8S6B4IFBP2jWYjoXxmm1FP6zS4Ai2F0UkR18dta40IhnzGWP5ukpCx M54HULc7QLoeUj0tFuEwpzffDYenvnuUf6vN273m+yLLQl8VrgarBEQvwx+YN9i6 IcAZJphBwYvELhkik63qRT/OhXK42OZZtluNPmaqd6bdldN3D1qXASkVyg4DG0x1 eD0AwWapqoLajvZvc11ibJb/2Aj+caF0xtYiMaRBfYv97J7BQGtvPSPubXUjll1+ PMJ6GIGAWtwCaphx3Q2aTgAVQPFOeAbO/QwGuCnBtOU3GvCcIPHHtzPZZUJe/nvd x63InJtc67qla3484TMb/HgKEEJADcwYzre+CLC3YB5V5jO+ZgE= =4wYJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AkTXO15BkcDqZyZZ4XpdWVTparbOBUASD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 00:57:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A06148751B for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [208.111.40.118]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6EB78EF95 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (catnip [73.240.250.185]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F68F38D14; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.26.25.66] (leon.pilgrimaccounting.com [10.26.25.66]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94682198; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:57:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: UEFI loader picking wrong native resolution, documented fixes don't work To: CeDeROM Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: From: Mel Pilgrim Message-ID: <0329d71e-60f5-3c49-f79c-a3f6d5f6e788@bluerosetech.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:57:45 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C6EB78EF95 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com designates 208.111.40.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bluerosetech.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: echo.brtsvcs.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.919,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.80)[asn: 36236(-3.91), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:208.111.40.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[185.250.240.73.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:57:48 -0000 On 01/17/2019 04:35, CeDeROM wrote: > I have noticed similar problems with my AMDGPU on AMD RADEON. > Setting hw.syscons.disable=1 in /boot/loader.conf and then loading > the graphics module from rc.conf helped.. I tried that as well, but its not a productive change: - The loader still goes to 1600x1200 for the boot menu - Once boot begins, the console is disabled entirely, including the remote console, which blanks and shows "No Signal" Without it I at least have the remote console. It seems like I might need to compile a custom version of loader to force the right resolution? This seems like such an obvious thing to be able to tune. The legacy console works, but I can't use it because the boot disks are NVMe. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 01:53:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0665814892B0 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-f49.google.com (mail-vs1-f49.google.com [209.85.217.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 836336A104 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-f49.google.com with SMTP id x1so7496177vsc.10 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:53:55 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QN103k4HgjW8OOnDhCnSAy6pzc3oNvrMqMgHqPKY5lI=; b=n0UCEqTjdLFCcmQfsNnUoMpaD3Ia0XTwpWLLdlRSZ6/R6XmOfslceEmiYD1whIcgWI TmHmAPszWszZGEkeK7k/1WvCFNor1xN4biBIYnFAeKFiS9nEM6VUg5FTLMngayBSy2xG EQh9JkjD/Kw10l5oJ2WRMoHtWIwdtX7Kl9C9d/Sqz+CxvdmcPurbLgAH9K/P40aBWkQQ 4a0lcUMaT3gSyxxVabrpQR27nG98Bv1RXx/ah1YkvP8y1u+2zbP+RZ1NAGmZljcT/wH2 itVbLyAfdfGDM7AqeE8rQXY2usbKXfOnNER/kEmNPuzAnT70Y8e2SwUFIy/rfF+xMBko CRyA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdAT8hpgeF4HUGGoMyhLvH9k/s0ma0A5oHpH86mzPzkPh8Q8dUs mFZDWnqNllinx7Mt9T8+eU8zimL3545u5n11tmV4dnu8BS4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5hGsYU+0yrzwgjKl7v76ujvsTuHvw3KmgDflKCnZJ0RdRSLbfR5a94HN8E05yjh56PO7MkLAbSfC85KiEclkQ= X-Received: by 2002:a67:3885:: with SMTP id n5mr6056459vsi.96.1547776429198; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:53:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0329d71e-60f5-3c49-f79c-a3f6d5f6e788@bluerosetech.com> In-Reply-To: <0329d71e-60f5-3c49-f79c-a3f6d5f6e788@bluerosetech.com> From: CeDeROM Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 02:53:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: UEFI loader picking wrong native resolution, documented fixes don't work To: Mel Pilgrim Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 836336A104 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.959,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[cederom@tlen.pl,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cederom@tlen.pl,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tlen.pl]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[49.217.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-1.13)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.74), asn: 15169(-1.82), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:53:57 -0000 I had the same problem with UEFI and brand new Dell monitor that could not display resolution goin out of sync.. 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[45.2.195.179]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t64sm2020090itb.5.2019.01.17.21.55.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 17 Jan 2019 21:55:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1547790911.2471.3.camel@gmail.com> Subject: FreeBSD Installer not recognizing existing partition tables From: Joel Maxuel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:55:11 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1+deb9u1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 80AB077777 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=VZXtGHyU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jmaxuel@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::142 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jmaxuel@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.44 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.75)[-0.746,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.18)[ip: (3.37), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.39), asn: 15169(-1.82), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:55:15 -0000 Hi all, Looking to set up FreeBSD as part of a dual-boot with Debian Stretch (already installed). The drives I will be using includes an SSD (ada0/sda) for rootfs and an HDD (ada1/sdb) for swap and /home. The system itself is an old Lenovo M92p, with UEFI turned off (BIOS set to "Legacy" mode), and each disk is using the "msdos" partition scheme. Also, parts for the system changed over the years as I had started with a 500GB HDD, to add a 60GB SSD later, to eventually replace both all while keeping the original data (dd, gparted, clonezilla tricks). When I ran the FreeBSD installer, everything went fine until I got to partitioning - I chose the semi-manual option, and only ada0 & ada1 appeared - no existing partitions below. dmesg revealed: ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ... ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 262321MB (537234768 512 byte sectors) ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 ... ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) ada1: quirks=0x1<4k> GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada0, BSD) GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada1, BSD) diskinfo of ada0 / ada1: sectorsize 512 / 512 mediasize in bytes 275064201216 / 1000204886016 mediasize in sectors 537234768 / 1953525168 stripesize 0 / 4096 stripeoffset 0 / 0 cylinders according to firmware 532971 / 1938021 heads according to firmware 16 / 16 sectors according to firmware 63 / 63 TRIM/UNMAP support Yes / No The parted details (I had pre-made the partitions for FreeBSD): ~> sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print Model: ATA Crucial_CT275MX3 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 537234768s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags:  Number  Start       End         Size        Type      File system  Flags  1      2048s       117229567s  117227520s  primary   ext4         boot  2      117229568s  537233407s  420003840s  extended  5      117231616s  419311615s  302080000s  logical   ext4  6      419313664s  419315711s  2048s       logical   freebsd-ufs  7      419317760s  537233407s  117915648s  logical ~> sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print Model: ATA WDC WD1003FZEX-0 (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 1953525168s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags:  Number  Start        End          Size         Type      File system     Flags  1      2048s        78125055s    78123008s    primary   ext4  2      78127102s    1953523711s  1875396610s  extended  5      78127104s    97656831s    19529728s    logical   ext4  6      97658880s    117188607s   19529728s    logical   ext4  7      117190656s   128907263s   11716608s    logical   linux-swap(v1)  8      128909312s   695232511s   566323200s   logical   ext4  9      695234560s   1827696639s  1132462080s  logical   ext2 10      1827698688s  1945135103s  117436416s   logical   freebsd-ufs 11      1945137152s  1953523711s  8386560s     logical ~>  `gpart show` returns nothing, and because the GEOM error automatically assumes the partition tables are BSD when they are really MBR (msdos), I don't believe the thread I found will be of assistance: https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-geom@freebsd.org/msg01424.html ...nor would I want to really risk blowing everything away (even with backups) for the possibility that my partition tables have gone weird over the years. AHCI is turned on in my BIOS, but I am wondering if due to my other BIOS settings (noted above; IME disabled as well as it can be) if that is making FreeBSD expect something different from the controller than what is really happening. I feel it is going to be something silly such as a slightly different process for non-UEFI. At any rate, the issue has been found with FreeBSD 11.2 and 12.0, but I did not encounter this when I played with Dragonfly 5.4.1 and NetBSD (had X issues there since I have a Nvidia GT630 that is not going to play nice for my dual-monitor setup). Let me know if you need any additional information - many thanks. 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TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.95)[ipnet: 40.64.0.0/10(-2.45), asn: 8075(-2.23), country: US(-0.08)]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[31.14.92.40.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:04:08 -0000 FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p2 GENERIC amd64 samba48-4.8.7 Ever since updating from FreeBSD 11 to FreeBSD 12, I have experienced a problem with samba. While still on FreeBSD 11, I configured a Windows 10 machine to write backups of selected directories to my FreeBSD machine. That worked perfectly. No problems were detected and everything was backed up correctly. However, after updating to FreeBSD 12 a problem has arose. While the backups do apparently succeed successfully, the screen on my FreeBSD machine fills up with error messages while the backup is happening. This is a snippet of the output: Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: [2019/01/17 23:49:17.050696, 0] ../sour= ce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: failed to get quota for user ID 1001 o= n Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: [2019/01/17 23:49:17.083290, 0] ../sour= ce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: failed to get quota for group ID 1001 = on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: [2019/01/17 23:49:17.086328, 0] ../sour= ce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: failed to get quota for user ID 1001 o= n Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: [2019/01/17 23:49:17.086788, 0] ../sour= ce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:49:17 scorpio smbd[203]: failed to get quota for group ID 1001 = on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:51:07 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:51:07.649359, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:51:07 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for user ID 1001= on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data/C/Users/Gerard/ClipCache/ClipCache (2019_01_18 04_4= 9_16 UTC).db: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:51:07 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:51:07.649794, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:51:07 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for group ID 100= 1 on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data/C/Users/Gerard/ClipCache/ClipCache (2019_01_18 04_= 49_16 UTC).db: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:52:40 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:52:40.890148, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:52:40 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for user ID 1001= on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:52:40 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:52:40.909473, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:52:40 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for group ID 100= 1 on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Data: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:52:46.869533, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for user ID 1001= on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Configuration/Catalog1.edb: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:52:46.869804, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for group ID 100= 1 on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Configuration/Catalog1.edb: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:52:46.914153, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for user ID 1001= on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Configuration/Catalog1.edb: No such file or directory Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: [2019/01/17 23:52:46.914308, 0] ../so= urce3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for group ID 100= 1 on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Configuration/Catalog1.edb: No such file or directory Since this operation did work before updating to FreeBSD 12, which I understand also updated the version ZFS employed by the system, I think it would be a fair assessment that something changed significantly in the interaction of ZFS and samba. I am not sure if this is the best list to be posting this on. Is there a dedicated ZFS forum? In any case, I was hoping that someone might know what is happening here and supply me with a usable solution. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 11:24:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FB41498BCE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B3508AB5C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N4R4i-1hCOWq2bDy-011PY5; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:11:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:11:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Joel Maxuel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer not recognizing existing partition tables Message-Id: <20190118121130.81080d2b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1547790911.2471.3.camel@gmail.com> References: <1547790911.2471.3.camel@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hnUSEhwSsPg7+Afqr0UJUiBrcLrhvQCWHVvEk92ZIFcmvn+itVh tHEsRD8ELaBnz3jfXviwQhamyUivV547H+LnP1ll3mMphTmb/Kn6sRo2ImnCQ3fuPXIhp7I OiScp0an4js88wfk2Jm3q0MHGExWb+OBknDdIu9Bz1TI8HRCqW6igUJPqLgwDu8n+u6eUvQ /Vs0dsvaI+yAJrMy5mTzQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:QKh3MIJYexw=:D47+HN5wYguBFh+piLf7pP Bv3MiDXpWKkAluyRoBmpXxLdoKq9+JsicXjK/R95lmOAH5gPL+Jt3hzuQeNikiInqjAtAltuF jdVHFDt0bkAwHz7VcO/f+4L00ql7vawuDaRGgfuSGpKMA3RNdfHdOaqf+Y2sQQxD/tMZ/rXMD jP3KNvuWFJZmGINRxAtlr6IYxyJAhyF1uPaQXEd7XYJ73mOVdqtlExGEeu83Ao1sBILfYYA8l gI17UQaBBEk8wzQAi4ES0YZCXLjm/W12aYp/FyAxnKgV/PnqoJJ3Cy1lucjWRpTvru0QCjLVK lZp96tIRb78d1nOA3UZEeF139FcK11ZsK0QPp7DsvT4KIGLNr+s8FT66Vt7HM88sCFEyzGqNU dc2Mmsu2NoklX47XNDKQQEp8C1JrftjFC9nChQ1On0855wHtikdZwjF/LYzvoS1s3HyYwvubS he80KzbEoD4N2LTJqr+IsA5fQ5HnEFfzSs9b9sC/vxcHlKXeudBDmY9pBZG4ZqbQ/yxrAkx4H Mem8uTA3e+byRQDum3t20lyl0hBfnW/b34Sbr1ED91ZC1vml1pgxrqMOLP1XkbAHofm6NYjJF /uqYUs9ZJ5YZOLebmkzCrJJVQSAaupr8G0gHwuJZOKYw2GIcIaYrXsG31Pb41K83rVH1g9cJs h6U3+rhxrk82bcoAZi8MfSd63A8dJYVqkTDry0VjXkiRD3GhcU7tCRoCfmdy6Hhk84IIC+d4p vakbYAFJ6P0gqumODjn0Hba+cEnXzAQO+8UjHjqXYAxWcT0EIsJSoGuBB80= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6B3508AB5C X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.07 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.32)[-0.316,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.48)[0.481,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.50)[0.498,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(-0.53), asn: 8560(0.63), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:24:36 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:55:11 -0400, Joel Maxuel wrote: > Looking to set up FreeBSD as part of a dual-boot with Debian Stretch > (already installed). The drives I will be using includes an SSD > (ada0/sda) for rootfs and an HDD (ada1/sdb) for swap and /home. Such kinds of setting are possible. > When I ran the FreeBSD installer, everything went fine until I got to > partitioning - I chose the semi-manual option, and only ada0 & ada1 > appeared - no existing partitions below. >=20 > dmesg revealed: >=20 > ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > ... > ada0: Command Queueing enabled > ada0: 262321MB (537234768 512 byte sectors) > ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > ... > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) > ada1: quirks=3D0x1<4k> > GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada0, BSD) > GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada1, BSD) That is correct so far - two physical devices. > The parted details (I had pre-made the partitions for FreeBSD): You should not pre-make anything for FreeBSD, just supply unused disk space. The installer will create the required partitions on its own. Experience tells us to leave the installation tasks to the installer of the OS we want to install. ;-) > ~> sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print > Model: ATA Crucial_CT275MX3 (scsi) > Disk /dev/sda: 537234768s > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > Partition Table: msdos > Disk Flags:=A0 >=20 > Number=A0=A0Start=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0End=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Size= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Type=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0File > system=A0=A0Flags > =A01=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02048s=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0117229567s=A0=A0117227520= s=A0=A0primary=A0=A0=A0ext4=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0boot > =A02=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0117229568s=A0=A0537233407s=A0=A0420003840s=A0=A0ext= ended > =A05=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0117231616s=A0=A0419311615s=A0=A0302080000s=A0=A0log= ical=A0=A0=A0ext4 > =A06=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0419313664s=A0=A0419315711s=A0=A02048s=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0logical=A0=A0=A0freebsd-ufs > =A07=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0419317760s=A0=A0537233407s=A0=A0117915648s=A0=A0log= ical And this reveals your problem: Within the MBR partitioning scheme (as opposed to GPT which doesn't require any further discussion here), FreeBSD needs to be installed into a slice. A slice is a DOS primary (!) partition which the installer cannot allocate here - disk space insufficient. FreeBSD cannot be installed into a logical drive inside a DOS extended partition, which is what you're trying to do. If you free up disk space, the installer - in "MBR mode" - will create a slice (another DOS primary partition), and inside this slice, will create partitions / labels. Example: /dev/ada0s1 -> ext4 (extended and logicals omitted) /dev/ada0s2 -> FreeBSD slice /dev/ada0s2a -> FreeBSD boot partition (or "everything") /dev/ada0s2b -> FreeBSD swap partition Depending on how you want to set the system up, you will at least need ada0s2 with ada0s2a; everything else is optional or can be located elsewhere. =09 > ~> sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print > Model: ATA WDC WD1003FZEX-0 (scsi) > Disk /dev/sdb: 1953525168s > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B > Partition Table: msdos > Disk Flags:=A0 >=20 > Number=A0=A0Start=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0End=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0Size=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Type=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0File > system=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Flags > =A01=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02048s=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A078125055s=A0=A0=A0=A07= 8123008s=A0=A0=A0=A0primary=A0=A0=A0ext4 > =A02=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A078127102s=A0=A0=A0=A01953523711s=A0=A01875396610s= =A0=A0extended > =A05=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A078127104s=A0=A0=A0=A097656831s=A0=A0=A0=A019529728s= =A0=A0=A0=A0logical=A0=A0=A0ext4 > =A06=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A097658880s=A0=A0=A0=A0117188607s=A0=A0=A019529728s= =A0=A0=A0=A0logical=A0=A0=A0ext4 > =A07=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0117190656s=A0=A0=A0128907263s=A0=A0=A011716608s=A0= =A0=A0=A0logical=A0=A0=A0linux-swap(v1) > =A08=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0128909312s=A0=A0=A0695232511s=A0=A0=A0566323200s=A0= =A0=A0logical=A0=A0=A0ext4 > =A09=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0695234560s=A0=A0=A01827696639s=A0=A01132462080s=A0= =A0logical=A0=A0=A0ext2 > 10=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01827698688s=A0=A01945135103s=A0=A0117436416s=A0=A0=A0= logical=A0=A0=A0freebsd-ufs > 11=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01945137152s=A0=A01953523711s=A0=A08386560s=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0logical Same problem here: No free disk space, and only a logical drive within a DOS extended partition which FreeBSD cannot natively use, at least not for booting. It _might_ be possible to initialize this one with newfs manually, and use it as /home (with "newfs" command and maybe "tunefs" if needed). The corresponding /dev/ada1s will be a mystery for now. :-) Sorry, I have never been using heavy DOS partitioning in combination with FreeBSD, and even for dual-booting systems, I've only been using primary partitions. I never needed more than 4 "drive letters"... :-) Sidenote: For /home, if I understood you correctly, you don't even need to add a label to the slice. Let's say, /dev/ada1s2 will be the DOS primary partition on the 2nd disk where you want to place /home. You now _could_ add a 'd' label ('a' reserved for boot partition, 'b' for swap, and 'c' for "the whole thing, whatever it is"), and then run "newfs /dev/ada1s2d" on it. That's not needed, you can "newfs /dev/ada1s2" as well, and then use /dev/ada1s2 for the /etc/fstab entry. If you wanted to use the entire disk as "FreeBSD data" (i. e., not to boot from), you could use "newfs /dev/ada1" to initialize it. This approach, not using any partitioning at all, is called "dedicated", because only FreeBSD can use it. The omission of partitioning information will make it unusable for other operating systems, even if they have UFS file system support. However, if you use the typical FreeBSD partitioning approach, you should get things up and running without further problems. > `gpart show` returns nothing, and because the GEOM error automatically > assumes the partition tables are BSD when they are really MBR (msdos), > I don't believe the thread I found will be of assistance: >=20 > https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-geom@freebsd.org/msg01424.html >=20 > ...nor would I want to really risk blowing everything away (even with > backups) for the possibility that my partition tables have gone weird > over the years. Try to remove the logical drives you prepared. See if the installer picks up the free disk space. You have sufficient DOS primary partitions left (you only need 1), that should be okay. The installer seems to be a little confused here, don't make it harder for it than it needs to be. :-) > AHCI is turned on in my BIOS, but I am wondering if due to my other > BIOS settings (noted above; IME disabled as well as it can be) if that > is making FreeBSD expect something different from the controller than > what is really happening. I feel it is going to be something silly > such as a slightly different process for non-UEFI. I don't think so. The drives seem to be detected correctly without any errors. It's just the confusing partitioning. With unused disk space, things should work better. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 11:26:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CF01498C7B for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6BF8ABEF for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43gzCT1M9tz1ftYn for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:25:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermex.mcs.it (unknown [192.168.132.214]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43gzCT0Z19z1ftYt for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:25:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermex.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85B759611 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:25:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:25:56 +0100 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba, ZFS and FreeBSD 12 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <43gzCT0Z19z1ftYt@baobab.bilink.it> X-Virus-Scanned: PippoLillo, ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7A6BF8ABEF X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luciano@vespaperitivo.it designates 212.45.144.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luciano@vespaperitivo.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.45.144.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vespaperitivo.it]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[baobab.bilink.it]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.53)[-0.531,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.144.45.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8816, ipnet:212.45.128.0/19, country:IT]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: IT(0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:26:05 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:04:00 +0000 Carmel NY wrote: > Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for group ID 1001 > on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Configuration/Catalog1.edb: No such file or directory Do you have vfs objects = zfsacl in the sare definition? > I am not sure if this is the best list to be posting this on. Is there > a dedicated ZFS forum? Well, not exactly dedicated, though you can try to ask the freebsd-fs mailing-list. Good luck, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 11:38:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD9E149948E for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D9118B437 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x0IBcKjD057005 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:38:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x0IBcKRV057002 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:38:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:38:20 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Samba, ZFS and FreeBSD 12 In-Reply-To: <43gzCT0Z19z1ftYt@baobab.bilink.it> Message-ID: References: <43gzCT0Z19z1ftYt@baobab.bilink.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:38:27 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:25+0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:04:00 +0000 > Carmel NY wrote: > > > Jan 17 23:52:46 scorpio smbd[13829]: failed to get quota for group ID 1001 > > on Gerard/HP-ENVY/Configuration/Catalog1.edb: No such file or directory > Do you have vfs objects = zfsacl in the sare definition? I have exactly the same problem using Samba 4.6. I added "vfs objects = zfsacl" to the share definition and restarted the services. [ftp] comment = FTP files, FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE, Samba %v force user = nobody guest ok = Yes path = /var/spool/ftp public = yes read only = Yes vfs objects = zfsacl The logs keep filling up: Jan 18 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: [2019/01/18 12:36:31.841720, 0] ../source3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 18 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: failed to get quota for group ID 65534 on .: No such file or directory -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 11:51:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B6A1499C47 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C938BF7C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luciano@vespaperitivo.it) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43gznB6xt6z1ftWX for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:51:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermex.mcs.it (unknown [192.168.132.214]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43gznB6BPpz1ftWc for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:51:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.45.6]) by hermex.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984C259614 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:51:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:51:42 +0100 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba, ZFS and FreeBSD 12 In-Reply-To: References: <43gzCT0Z19z1ftYt@baobab.bilink.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <43gznB6BPpz1ftWc@baobab.bilink.it> X-Virus-Scanned: PippoLillo, ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 09C938BF7C X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.965,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:51:44 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:38:20 +0100 (CET) Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: > The logs keep filling up: >=20 > Jan 18 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: [2019/01/18 > 12:36:31.841720, 0] ../source3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) J= an > 18 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: failed to get quota for g= roup > ID 65534 on .: No such file or directory Is your zfs pool status OK? what does zpool status say? Luciano. --=20 /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 12:07:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEFE149B0B7 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFA778CB70 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x0IC7CeP057194 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:07:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x0IC7CQe057191 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:07:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:07:12 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Samba, ZFS and FreeBSD 12 In-Reply-To: <43gznB6BPpz1ftWc@baobab.bilink.it> Message-ID: References: <43gzCT0Z19z1ftYt@baobab.bilink.it> <43gznB6BPpz1ftWc@baobab.bilink.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:07:16 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:51+0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:38:20 +0100 (CET) > Trond Endrestøl wrote: > > > The logs keep filling up: > > > > Jan 18 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: [2019/01/18 > > 12:36:31.841720, 0] ../source3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan > > 18 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: failed to get quota for group > > ID 65534 on .: No such file or directory > Is your zfs pool status OK? what does zpool status say? Yes, they are quite happy: root@hostname:~ # zpool status -v pool: hostname_zdata state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0 days 02:59:23 with 0 errors on Thu Jan 17 06:36:37 2019 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM hostname_zdata ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/hostname_zdata0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/hostname_zdata1 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors pool: hostname_zroot state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0 days 00:04:36 with 0 errors on Thu Jan 17 03:41:52 2019 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM hostname_zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/hostname_zroot0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/hostname_zroot1 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors -- Trond. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:30:57 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:08-0000, Carmel NY wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:51:42 +0100, Luciano Mannucci stated: > > >On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:38:20 +0100 (CET) > >Trond Endrestøl wrote: > > > >> The logs keep filling up: > >> > >> Jan 18 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: [2019/01/18 > >> 12:36:31.841720, > >> 0] ../source3/lib/sysquotas_4B.c:148(sys_quotactl_4B) Jan 18 > >> 12:36:31 hostname smbd[2115]: failed to get quota for > >> group ID 65534 on .: No such file or directory > >Is your zfs pool status OK? what does zpool status say? > > > >Luciano. > > # zpool status > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool can > still be used, but some features are unavailable. > action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, > the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support > the features. See zpool-features(7) for details. > scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0 days 00:10:17 with 0 errors on Fri Dec 21 07:10:14 2018 > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > errors: No known data errors I think I solved it. If Samba is compiled with support for quota, but we don't intend to use that feature, we may simply set this global option: get quota command = /bin/echo 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1024 A more sophisticated solution is to create /usr/local/sbin/query_quota or something similar, and let it adhere to the specification found in smb.conf(5): This parameter should specify the path to a script that queries the quota information for the specified user/group for the partition that the specified directory is on. Such a script is being given 3 arguments: directory type of query uid of user or gid of group The directory is actually mostly just "." - It needs to be treated relatively to the current working directory that the script can also query. The type of query can be one of: 1 - user quotas 2 - user default quotas (uid = -1) 3 - group quotas 4 - group default quotas (gid = -1) This script should print one line as output with spaces between the columns. The printed columns should be: 1 - quota flags (0 = no quotas, 1 = quotas enabled, 2 = quotas enabled and enforced) 2 - number of currently used blocks 3 - the softlimit number of blocks 4 - the hardlimit number of blocks 5 - currently used number of inodes 6 - the softlimit number of inodes 7 - the hardlimit number of inodes 8 (optional) - the number of bytes in a block(default is 1024) -- Trond. 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The > >> pool can still be used, but some features are unavailable. > >> action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, > >> the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does > >> not support the features. See zpool-features(7) for details. > >> scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0 days 00:10:17 with 0 errors on Fri Dec > >> 21 07:10:14 2018 config: > >> > >> NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > >> zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > >> ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > >> > >> errors: No known data errors > > > >I think I solved it. > > > >If Samba is compiled with support for quota, but we don't intend to > >use that feature, we may simply set this global option: > > > >get quota command = /bin/echo 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1024 > > > >A more sophisticated solution is to create /usr/local/sbin/query_quota > >or something similar, and let it adhere to the specification found in > >smb.conf(5): > > > >This parameter should specify the path to a script that queries the > >quota information for the specified user/group for the partition that > >the specified directory is on. > > > >Such a script is being given 3 arguments: > > > >directory > > > >type of query > > > >uid of user or gid of group > > > >The directory is actually mostly just "." - It needs to be treated > >relatively to the current working directory that the script can also > >query. > > > >The type of query can be one of: > > > >1 - user quotas > > > >2 - user default quotas (uid = -1) > > > >3 - group quotas > > > >4 - group default quotas (gid = -1) > > > >This script should print one line as output with spaces between the > >columns. The printed columns should be: > > > >1 - quota flags (0 = no quotas, 1 = quotas enabled, 2 = quotas enabled > >and enforced) > > > >2 - number of currently used blocks > > > >3 - the softlimit number of blocks > > > >4 - the hardlimit number of blocks > > > >5 - currently used number of inodes > > > >6 - the softlimit number of inodes > > > >7 - the hardlimit number of inodes > > > >8 (optional) - the number of bytes in a block(default is 1024) > > > > I just got this back from the Samba mailing list: > > You're getting this due to the error code being returned in errno > not being one that Samba expects. Here's the underlying code: > > ret = quotactl(path, cmd, id, qblk); > if (ret == -1) { > /* ENOTSUP means quota support is not compiled in. > EINVAL > * means that quotas are not configured (commonly). > */ > if (errno != ENOTSUP && errno != EINVAL) { > DEBUG(0, ("failed to %s quota for %s ID %u on > %s: %s\n", (cmd & QCMD(Q_GETQUOTA, 0)) ? "get" : "set", > (cmd & QCMD(0, GRPQUOTA)) ? > "group" : "user", (unsigned)id, path, strerror(errno))); > } > > > Looks like your system is returning ENOENT here in errno, not ENOTSUP > or EINVAL. > > Is this a bug that I should report? Yes, please do. And you may also suggest to the Samba team to enhance this one and other error messages by spelling out which errno value the call returned. Informative error messages are underrated, IMO. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 13:51:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE37149E7CE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=1WCu=P2=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0782690937 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=1WCu=P2=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from mordor.lan (213.219.145.216.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.145.216]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0F131D4FC18; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:51:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:51:29 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Shawn Wallbridge Cc: Valeri Galtsev , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Supermicro HBA Message-ID: <20190118135128.GF44618@mordor.lan> References: <20190117103043.GA44618@mordor.lan> <1443717602.966565.1547729422870@mail.yahoo.com> <82e530db-7cfc-0899-2af1-3972cd5caae6@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bGR76rFJjkSxVeRa" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0782690937 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=1WCu=P2=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=1WCu=P2=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.09 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; URIBL_RED(3.50)[ixsystems.com.multi.uribl.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.bebif.be,mx2.bebif.be]; HAS_ANON_DOMAIN(0.10)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.77)[-0.775,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=1WCu=P2=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=1WCu=P2=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.21)[asn: 2611(-1.03), country: BE(0.00)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:51:39 -0000 --bGR76rFJjkSxVeRa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:59:06AM -0800, Shawn Wallbridge wrote: > I have two servers using the AOC-S3008L-L8i (one 400TB+, the other 140TB > (SSD)). They both work great, no real issues performance wise. The firmwa= re > update is a bit of a pain with the supermicro card (make sure you write > down the SAS ID of the card before you do the update), but they work well. >=20 > shawn Thank you all for your feedback :) >=20 > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:03 AM Valeri Galtsev wrote: >=20 > > > > > > On 1/17/19 8:28 AM, Tenzin Lhakhang wrote: > > > If cost is negligible between Supermicro HBA using 3008 controller ve= rsus > > > Broadcom/Avago/LSI card. I'd say opt for the Broadcom card, their > > > support + drivers + firmware downloads is much better than Supermicro= 's > > FTP > > > site. Broadcom keeps whitepapers, archive of all their past released > > > firmwares. > > > > > > Must dos: > > > - Make sure to do hot-add hot-remove disks (with workload). > > > - Make sure to do disk led blink light tests. You will have to use t= he > > > sas3ircu utility, unless you have OS specific utilities to find them. > > > - Perform an fio disk benchmark to get baseline system performance. > > > https://github.com/axboe/fio > > > > > > Issues I've seen: > > > - SuperMicro's FTP site for their firmware doesn't include archive > > copies, > > > only latest. Sometimes latest FW doesn't work nicely and hopefully y= ou > > > have an old FW downloaded prior. > > > - SuperMicro FTP site: ftp://ftp.supermicro.com/Driver/SAS/LSI/ > > > - Sometimes SM HBA's FW and LSI HBA's FW can be used interchangeable = and > > > sometimes not. If you flashed a LSI HBA with SMC firmware, then you = have > > > to add -nossid when flashing using the sas3flash when going back to L= SI > > > firmware. Sometimes it flashes fine and everything looks ok, you see= all > > > the disks, but when you blink disk 4, it blinks disk 1. When you > > > physically remove disk 2, ZFS says disk 3 is gone. It's best to > > thoroughly > > > qualify the system after FW flash. > > > > Thanks, Tenzin, for nice write up! > > > > I only would udd one general thing about Sipermicro. If you get > > Supermicro system board ("motherboard" is common jargon name for system > > board for over couple of decades), then make sure you go with Intel > > CPUs. If you need/prefer AMD CPUs, stay away from Supermicro. They are > > notoriously poorly designing system boards for AMD CPUs. I've seen > > several bad/flaky due to poor design myself (that is for AMD CPUs, not > > Intel); you also can search reports of that on the web. In my book one > > bad is one too many if it is you who got that. I tend to get Tyan ones > > whenever I can, and definitely when I want AMD CPUs. Tyan is in server > > board business since forever, and they never had flops I would hear abo= ut. > > > > Sorry about small rant; I hope this may help someone. > > > > Valeri > > > > > > > > Broadcom page for 9300-8i > > > - > > > > > https://www.broadcom.com/products/storage/host-bus-adapters/sas-9300-8i= #overview > > > - It's a bit hard to understand all the different downloads, but they= 're > > > helpful when you understand the workflow to flash FW and use the sas3= ircu > > > utility. In the latest release, they've bundled all the required > > downloads > > > into the Firmware download. In the past you would have to individual= ly > > > find the different ROM and BIN files. > > > > > > All said, Supermicro HBA when it's working, it works pretty well. I'= ve > > > seen HBA failures, but the systems were usually 5+ years old. > > > - If you have multiple HBAs in a system, record which physical contro= ller > > > is on PCIe slot is the logical controller reported by OS. Otherwise > > when a > > > single HBA fails, it's a bit hard to trace which software HBA is which > > > physical HBA. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tenzin > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:51 AM Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-fs < > > > freebsd-fs@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > > >> I've used the LSI 3008. I haven't had any issues with it. It is > > >> supported by that driver. (I haven't built a server with one lately) > > >> Yes, avoid all the hardware RAID cards they are unnecessary and a JB= OD > > >> controller with ZFS is a good choice. Make sure it supports the SAS3 > > spec > > >> of 12 Gb/s. That's where the speed is. I found the following as an > > FYI. > > >> Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Revi= ews > > >> > > >> > > >> | > > >> | > > >> | > > >> | | | > > >> > > >> | > > >> > > >> | > > >> | > > >> | | > > >> Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Revi= ews > > >> > > >> The Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBAs (which share the same controller as = the > > >> LSI 9300-8i HBAs) are engineered to deli... > > >> | > > >> > > >> | > > >> > > >> | > > >> > > >> > > >> I looked at it as more of a specs education. It looks solid. I've = used > > >> Supermicro without issue in the past. (I just decommissioned my home > > >> server which was Supermicro and has that very card in it.) > > >> There is a lot to consider when using ZFS beyond just the hardware. > > Don't > > >> get me wrong.... I want to have ZFS' baby. :D Just be sure of all = the > > >> nuances of HDD, SSD, Hybrids, how much memory you have to dedicate to > > ZFS > > >> and CPU cores you have. You have to take into consideration all the= ZFS > > >> features you're planning to make use of now and in the future. > > >> Also, are you ever planning on expanding the storage to have an > > additional > > >> JBOD shelf? If so, you may want a card with some external connector= s. > > >> Some of the people at http://www.ixsystems.com have done some serious > > >> research on application specific throughput of ZFS and I believe they > > also > > >> spec out SuperMicro servers too. It comes down to IOPS, raw through= put, > > >> etc. (I'm actually talking to them right now about some very large > > backup > > >> servers that can handle 0.75 PB.... The consideration I have is space > > and > > >> using RAIDZ2 and multiple streams from 10Gb interfaces and serious > > >> compression and deduplication. SO, IOPS not so much, but heavy raw= I/O > > >> and RAID checksum computation and dedup. > > >> There's also things like dedicated SSDs as ZIL and cache to be thoug= ht > > >> about. > > >> So: go up the theoretical OSI layer model and optimize each layer r= ight > > >> through the application layer. :D (I actually find it fun) > > >> I hope this all helps. > > >> P > > >> > > >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 4:33:38 AM CST, Julien Cigar > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> We are planning to replace some (web) applications servers (currently > > >> running HPE) with Supermicro and the vendor offers the following > > >> choices for the Hardware Raid Controller/HBA 4P part: > > >> > > >> 1) Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008 8 x SATA/SAS III JBOD > > controller, up > > >> to 122 hard drives via expander backplane, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/= ZFS > > >> + =E2=82=AC 205,6 > > >> > > >> 2) LSI 9300-4I, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, tot 256 harde schijven= via > > >> expander backplanes, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS > > >> + =E2=82=AC 214,5 > > >> > > >> 3) LSI MegaRAID 9341-4i bulk, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal entry level > > >> hardware RAID, no cache/BBU possible, PCI-e > > >> + =E2=82=AC 177,97 > > >> > > >> 4) LSI MegaRAID 9361-4i 1GB cache, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal > > >> hardware RAID, max. 240 hdd using expander backplanes > > >> + =E2=82=AC 401,7 > > >> > > >> 5) LSI 9300-4i4e, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, 4 x internal, 4 x > > external, > > >> up to 256 hard drives via expander backplane, Nexenta Certified, ide= al > > >> for ZFS, PCI-E > > >> + =E2=82=AC 273,95 > > >> > > >> 6) LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e bulk, 8 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs, 4 x external and= 4 x > > >> internal hardware RAID, 1024MB cache, up to 128 hard drives via expa= nder > > >> backplane, support for SSD CacheCade 2.0 write and read caching, > > >> CacheVault support (advised), ideal for high en > > >> + =E2=82=AC 676 > > >> > > >> As the plan is to use ZFS, I was planning to choose the > > >> "Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008" (it looks like it is supported= by > > >> mpr) and I was wondering if anyone has any feedback on it ? Would > > >> another option be a better choice ? > > >> > > >> Thank you! > > >> Julien > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Julien Cigar > > >> Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > > >> PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > > >> No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > > >> However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Valeri Galtsev > > Sr System Administrator > > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > > University of Chicago > > Phone: 773-702-4247 > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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[45.2.195.179]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o16sm2648549ito.19.2019.01.18.12.55.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:55:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1547844935.2361.1.camel@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer not recognizing existing partition tables From: Joel Maxuel To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:55:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20190118121130.81080d2b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1547790911.2471.3.camel@gmail.com> <20190118121130.81080d2b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1+deb9u1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DA70E73113 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=A7dVlbP5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jmaxuel@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jmaxuel@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.88 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.37)[ip: (2.40), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.37), asn: 15169(-1.83), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:55:40 -0000 On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 12:11 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:55:11 -0400, Joel Maxuel wrote: > > Looking to set up FreeBSD as part of a dual-boot with Debian > > Stretch > > (already installed).  The drives I will be using includes an SSD > > (ada0/sda) for rootfs and an HDD (ada1/sdb) for swap and /home. > > Such kinds of setting are possible. > > > > > When I ran the FreeBSD installer, everything went fine until I got > > to > > partitioning - I chose the semi-manual option, and only ada0 & ada1 > > appeared - no existing partitions below. > > > > dmesg revealed: > > > > ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > > ... > > ada0: Command Queueing enabled > > ada0: 262321MB (537234768 512 byte sectors) > > ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > > ... > > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > > ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) > > ada1: quirks=0x1<4k> > > GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada0, BSD) > > GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada1, BSD) > > That is correct so far - two physical devices. > So the GEOM_PART fail (with the wrong table type) is normal? Double checking that because trouble threads I have looked at have come up with this error before, but not the mismatched partition table identity (from what I have seen). > > > The parted details (I had pre-made the partitions for FreeBSD): > > You should not pre-make anything for FreeBSD, just supply > unused disk space. The installer will create the required > partitions on its own. Experience tells us to leave the > installation tasks to the installer of the OS we want to > install. ;-) > FWIW, initially I didn't, but yeah, that "free space" was inside extended partition(s) - good point you made nonetheless. > > > ~> sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print > > Model: ATA Crucial_CT275MX3 (scsi) > > Disk /dev/sda: 537234768s > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table: msdos > > Disk Flags:  > > > > Number  Start       End         Size        Type      File > > system  Flags > >  1      2048s       117229567s  117227520s  primary   ext4          > > boot > >  2      117229568s  537233407s  420003840s  extended > >  5      117231616s  419311615s  302080000s  logical   ext4 > >  6      419313664s  419315711s  2048s       logical   freebsd-ufs > >  7      419317760s  537233407s  117915648s  logical > > And this reveals your problem: > > Within the MBR partitioning scheme (as opposed to GPT which > doesn't require any further discussion here), FreeBSD needs > to be installed into a slice. A slice is a DOS primary (!) > partition which the installer cannot allocate here - disk > space insufficient. > > FreeBSD cannot be installed into a logical drive inside a > DOS extended partition, which is what you're trying to do. > > If you free up disk space, the installer - in "MBR mode" - > will create a slice (another DOS primary partition), and > inside this slice, will create partitions / labels. > > Example: > > /dev/ada0s1 -> ext4 > (extended and logicals omitted) > /dev/ada0s2 -> FreeBSD slice > /dev/ada0s2a -> FreeBSD boot partition (or "everything") > /dev/ada0s2b -> FreeBSD swap partition > > Depending on how you want to set the system up, you will > at least need ada0s2 with ada0s2a; everything else is optional > or can be located elsewhere. > > > Same problem here: No free disk space, and only a logical > drive within a DOS extended partition which FreeBSD cannot > natively use, at least not for booting. > > It _might_ be possible to initialize this one with newfs > manually, and use it as /home (with "newfs" command and > maybe "tunefs" if needed). The corresponding /dev/ada1s > will be a mystery for now. :-) I suppose here is why I am replying as such - /dev (in the FreeBSD installer environment) is not splitting out ada0 and ada1 into their partition nodes. As mentioned before, `gpart list` (my mistake for quoting `gpart show` earlier) returns nothing, and with the added `-a` switch, the only returned data is related to the optical drive. > Sorry, I have never been using heavy DOS partitioning in > combination with FreeBSD, and even for dual-booting systems, > I've only been using primary partitions. I never needed > more than 4 "drive letters"... :-) > Understood. > Sidenote: > > For /home, if I understood you correctly, you don't even > need to add a label to the slice. Let's say, /dev/ada1s2 > will be the DOS primary partition on the 2nd disk where > you want to place /home. You now _could_ add a 'd' label > ('a' reserved for boot partition, 'b' for swap, and 'c' > for "the whole thing, whatever it is"), and then run > "newfs /dev/ada1s2d" on it. That's not needed, you can > "newfs /dev/ada1s2" as well, and then use /dev/ada1s2 > for the /etc/fstab entry. If you wanted to use the entire > disk as "FreeBSD data" (i. e., not to boot from), you > could use "newfs /dev/ada1" to initialize it. This approach, > not using any partitioning at all, is called "dedicated", > because only FreeBSD can use it. The omission of partitioning > information will make it unusable for other operating systems, > even if they have UFS file system support. > > However, if you use the typical FreeBSD partitioning approach, > you should get things up and running without further problems. > > > > > `gpart show` returns nothing, and because the GEOM error > > automatically > > assumes the partition tables are BSD when they are really MBR > > (msdos), > > I don't believe the thread I found will be of assistance: > > > > https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-geom@freebsd.org/msg01424.html > > > > ...nor would I want to really risk blowing everything away (even > > with > > backups) for the possibility that my partition tables have gone > > weird > > over the years. > > Try to remove the logical drives you prepared. See if the > installer picks up the free disk space. You have sufficient > DOS primary partitions left (you only need 1), that should > be okay. The installer seems to be a little confused here, > don't make it harder for it than it needs to be. :-) > To add some detail as to what the partition editor (continues to) read back (in case this jars an idea for someone): ada0 256GB ada1 932GB IIRC, if the partitioner considered the drives as initialized, a third column with "MBR" would be present. Instead, it seems that the partitioner considered the drives as uninitialized or corrupt? > > > AHCI is turned on in my BIOS, but I am wondering if due to my other > > BIOS settings (noted above; IME disabled as well as it can be) if > > that > > is making FreeBSD expect something different from the controller > > than > > what is really happening.  I feel it is going to be something silly > > such as a slightly different process for non-UEFI. > > I don't think so. The drives seem to be detected correctly > without any errors. It's just the confusing partitioning. > With unused disk space, things should work better. > I did grep dmesg against GEOM as well, and there are two extra GEOM_PART errors for the drive UUID's this time, instead of just the /dev nodes. I suppose I could check for different kernel modes - there may be an option at the cd-loader that covers this.   Thanks for the tips thus far. 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[45.2.195.179]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k2sm2697124itk.35.2019.01.18.13.01.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1547845260.4093.1.camel@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer not recognizing existing partition tables From: Joel Maxuel To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 17:01:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1547844935.2361.1.camel@gmail.com> References: <1547790911.2471.3.camel@gmail.com> <20190118121130.81080d2b.freebsd@edvax.de> <1547844935.2361.1.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1+deb9u1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B046773486 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=WwyP4a4w; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jmaxuel@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::143 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jmaxuel@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.64 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.966,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.17)[ip: (3.44), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.38), asn: 15169(-1.83), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 21:01:05 -0000 Oops, I forgot to properly note that I have removed the extra partitions, and shrunk extended to reveal space for primary partitions. So the reply was in the context of no change in the behaviour of the installer environment. Now current parted info: Disk /dev/sda: 537234768s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags:  Number  Start       End         Size        Type      File system  Flags  1      2048s       117229567s  117227520s  primary   ext4         boot  2      117229568s  419311615s  302082048s  extended  5      117231616s  419311615s  302080000s  logical   ext4 Disk /dev/sdb: 1953525168s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags:  Number  Start       End          Size         Type      File system     Flags  1      2048s       78125055s    78123008s    primary   ext4  2      78127102s   1827698687s  1749571586s  extended  5      78127104s   97656831s    19529728s    logical   ext4  6      97658880s   117188607s   19529728s    logical   ext4  7      117190656s  128907263s   11716608s    logical   linux-swap(v1)  8      128909312s  695232511s   566323200s   logical   ext4  9      695234560s  1827696639s  1132462080s  logical   ext2 On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 16:55 -0400, Joel Maxuel wrote: > On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 12:11 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:55:11 -0400, Joel Maxuel wrote: > > > Looking to set up FreeBSD as part of a dual-boot with Debian > > > Stretch > > > (already installed).  The drives I will be using includes an SSD > > > (ada0/sda) for rootfs and an HDD (ada1/sdb) for swap and /home. > > > > Such kinds of setting are possible. > > > > > > > > > When I ran the FreeBSD installer, everything went fine until I > > > got > > > to > > > partitioning - I chose the semi-manual option, and only ada0 & > > > ada1 > > > appeared - no existing partitions below. > > > > > > dmesg revealed: > > > > > > ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > > > ... > > > ada0: Command Queueing enabled > > > ada0: 262321MB (537234768 512 byte sectors) > > > ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > > > ... > > > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > > > ada1: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) > > > ada1: quirks=0x1<4k> > > > GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada0, BSD) > > > GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (ada1, BSD) > > > > That is correct so far - two physical devices. > > > > So the GEOM_PART fail (with the wrong table type) is normal? > Double checking that because trouble threads I have looked at have > come > up with this error before, but not the mismatched partition table > identity (from what I have seen). > > > > > > The parted details (I had pre-made the partitions for FreeBSD): > > > > You should not pre-make anything for FreeBSD, just supply > > unused disk space. The installer will create the required > > partitions on its own. Experience tells us to leave the > > installation tasks to the installer of the OS we want to > > install. ;-) > > > > FWIW, initially I didn't, but yeah, that "free space" was inside > extended partition(s) - good point you made nonetheless. > > > > > > ~> sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print > > > Model: ATA Crucial_CT275MX3 (scsi) > > > Disk /dev/sda: 537234768s > > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > > Partition Table: msdos > > > Disk Flags:  > > > > > > Number  Start       End         Size        Type      File > > > system  Flags > > >  1      2048s       117229567s  117227520s  primary   ext4        > > >    > > > boot > > >  2      117229568s  537233407s  420003840s  extended > > >  5      117231616s  419311615s  302080000s  logical   ext4 > > >  6      419313664s  419315711s  2048s       logical   freebsd-ufs > > >  7      419317760s  537233407s  117915648s  logical > > > > And this reveals your problem: > > > > Within the MBR partitioning scheme (as opposed to GPT which > > doesn't require any further discussion here), FreeBSD needs > > to be installed into a slice. A slice is a DOS primary (!) > > partition which the installer cannot allocate here - disk > > space insufficient. > > > > FreeBSD cannot be installed into a logical drive inside a > > DOS extended partition, which is what you're trying to do. > > > > If you free up disk space, the installer - in "MBR mode" - > > will create a slice (another DOS primary partition), and > > inside this slice, will create partitions / labels. > > > > Example: > > > > /dev/ada0s1 -> ext4 > > (extended and logicals omitted) > > /dev/ada0s2 -> FreeBSD slice > > /dev/ada0s2a -> FreeBSD boot partition (or "everything") > > /dev/ada0s2b -> FreeBSD swap partition > > > > Depending on how you want to set the system up, you will > > at least need ada0s2 with ada0s2a; everything else is optional > > or can be located elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > Same problem here: No free disk space, and only a logical > > drive within a DOS extended partition which FreeBSD cannot > > natively use, at least not for booting. > > > > It _might_ be possible to initialize this one with newfs > > manually, and use it as /home (with "newfs" command and > > maybe "tunefs" if needed). The corresponding /dev/ada1s > > will be a mystery for now. :-) > > I suppose here is why I am replying as such - /dev (in the FreeBSD > installer environment) is not splitting out ada0 and ada1 into their > partition nodes.  As mentioned before, `gpart list` (my mistake for > quoting `gpart show` earlier) returns nothing, and with the added `- > a` > switch, the only returned data is related to the optical drive. > > > Sorry, I have never been using heavy DOS partitioning in > > combination with FreeBSD, and even for dual-booting systems, > > I've only been using primary partitions. I never needed > > more than 4 "drive letters"... :-) > > > > Understood. > > > Sidenote: > > > > For /home, if I understood you correctly, you don't even > > need to add a label to the slice. Let's say, /dev/ada1s2 > > will be the DOS primary partition on the 2nd disk where > > you want to place /home. You now _could_ add a 'd' label > > ('a' reserved for boot partition, 'b' for swap, and 'c' > > for "the whole thing, whatever it is"), and then run > > "newfs /dev/ada1s2d" on it. That's not needed, you can > > "newfs /dev/ada1s2" as well, and then use /dev/ada1s2 > > for the /etc/fstab entry. If you wanted to use the entire > > disk as "FreeBSD data" (i. e., not to boot from), you > > could use "newfs /dev/ada1" to initialize it. This approach, > > not using any partitioning at all, is called "dedicated", > > because only FreeBSD can use it. The omission of partitioning > > information will make it unusable for other operating systems, > > even if they have UFS file system support. > > > > However, if you use the typical FreeBSD partitioning approach, > > you should get things up and running without further problems. > > > > > > > > > `gpart show` returns nothing, and because the GEOM error > > > automatically > > > assumes the partition tables are BSD when they are really MBR > > > (msdos), > > > I don't believe the thread I found will be of assistance: > > > > > > https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-geom@freebsd.org/msg01424.ht > > > ml > > > > > > ...nor would I want to really risk blowing everything away (even > > > with > > > backups) for the possibility that my partition tables have gone > > > weird > > > over the years. > > > > Try to remove the logical drives you prepared. See if the > > installer picks up the free disk space. You have sufficient > > DOS primary partitions left (you only need 1), that should > > be okay. The installer seems to be a little confused here, > > don't make it harder for it than it needs to be. :-) > > > > To add some detail as to what the partition editor (continues to) > read > back (in case this jars an idea for someone): > > ada0 256GB > ada1 932GB > > IIRC, if the partitioner considered the drives as initialized, a > third > column with "MBR" would be present.  Instead, it seems that the > partitioner considered the drives as uninitialized or corrupt? > > > > > > AHCI is turned on in my BIOS, but I am wondering if due to my > > > other > > > BIOS settings (noted above; IME disabled as well as it can be) if > > > that > > > is making FreeBSD expect something different from the controller > > > than > > > what is really happening.  I feel it is going to be something > > > silly > > > such as a slightly different process for non-UEFI. > > > > I don't think so. The drives seem to be detected correctly > > without any errors. It's just the confusing partitioning. > > With unused disk space, things should work better. > > > > I did grep dmesg against GEOM as well, and there are two extra > GEOM_PART errors for the drive UUID's this time, instead of just the > /dev nodes. > > I suppose I could check for different kernel modes - there may be an > option at the cd-loader that covers this.   > > Thanks for the tips thus far. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 23:31:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7A51487208 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 816D881B9C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 36c136de for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:24:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (10.240.26.12 [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id edeb0ffc for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:24:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 22ee4968 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:24:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id e7af79a9 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:24:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:24:28 -0500 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: lyx Message-ID: <20190118182428.1970c398@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 816D881B9C X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=201701]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; IP_SCORE(-0.85)[ipnet: 78.46.0.0/15(-1.90), asn: 24940(-2.35), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.dismail.de]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.969,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:31:17 -0000 Hi! I am using print/lyx and I have a problem to export to pdf. I got an error: " {/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} <./0_usr_local _share_lyx_images_buffer-view.pdf>] (./splash.aux) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 2508 strings out of 493093 33910 string characters out of 6138121 94609 words of memory out of 5000000 5930 multiletter control sequences out of 15000+600000 31689 words of font info for 66 fonts, out of 8000000 for 9000 1141 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191 38i,6n,23p,232b,253s stack positions out of 5000i,2500n,10000p,300000b,80000s !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file 8r.enc): cannot open encoding file for reading ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! " Do I need to install something more, please? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 23:34:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA7D14874CB for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03196820AA for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 43b157c0 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:34:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (10.240.26.12 [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4799992d for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:34:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4f1f6f0f for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:34:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 023203df (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:34:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:34:00 -0500 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: lyx Message-ID: <20190118183400.3af5419f@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: <20190118182428.1970c398@dismail.de> References: <20190118182428.1970c398@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 03196820AA X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=201701]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; IP_SCORE(-0.87)[ipnet: 78.46.0.0/15(-1.97), asn: 24940(-2.36), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.dismail.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:34:07 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:24:28 -0500 wrote: > Hi! > > I am using print/lyx and I have a problem to export to pdf. I got an > error: > " > > {/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} > <./0_usr_local _share_lyx_images_buffer-view.pdf>] (./splash.aux) ) > Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: > 2508 strings out of 493093 > 33910 string characters out of 6138121 > 94609 words of memory out of 5000000 > 5930 multiletter control sequences out of 15000+600000 > 31689 words of font info for 66 fonts, out of 8000000 for 9000 > 1141 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191 > 38i,6n,23p,232b,253s stack positions out of > 5000i,2500n,10000p,300000b,80000s > > !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file 8r.enc): cannot open encoding file for > reading ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! > " > > Do I need to install something more, please? > > Thank you. I was too fast. I did reinstal tex-dvipsk and it works again :). 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That's where I'd start looking to debug this. OCSP is (at least in my circle of acquaintances) notoriously flakey in providing updates. I've switched to twice weekly updates with a wrapper around the checks to re-try if upstream cert provider is incapable of serving us. You can use this to check your OCSP validity: curl -4sSLo /dev/null --cert-status https://example.org/ I have found https://github.com/h2o/h2o/blob/master/share/h2o/fetch-ocsp-response (www/h2o is in ports) very useful to handle the fetching, it may suit your needs if your current tools do not. 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I am trying to find out when it will be available. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 19 16:52:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55614872E9 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 16:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 112BE89CE4 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 16:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 10dd150b for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 17:52:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (10.240.26.12 [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id db7f34e3 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 17:52:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c6533ed9 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 17:52:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 332758af (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 17:52:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 11:52:19 -0500 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: x86info Message-ID: <20190119115219.2e70b922@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 112BE89CE4 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.88 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=201701]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; IP_SCORE(-0.88)[ipnet: 78.46.0.0/15(-2.03), asn: 24940(-2.35), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.dismail.de]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.887,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 16:52:26 -0000 Hi! I am using sysutils/devcpu-data on FreeBSD 12.0-Release (amd64) and when I check with x86info I got: MC4ADDR: Couldn't read MSR 0x412 MC7ADDR: Couldn't read MSR 0x41e I tried with cpupdate and it is the same. Is something wrong with processor, please? I have UEFI boot (FreeBSD installed on iMac without OS X). Thank you. 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