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That's why today I'd say EOG or >>> Geeqie; I hope I got the spelling right because it's not >>> that easy to remember all those strangely spelled made-up >>> names... >>>=20 >>> Both support manual and automatic "slide change" as well >>> as fullscreen modes. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>> > Gimp would be an overkill. =20 >>>=20 >>> I'm using Gimp. ;-) >>>=20 >>> Have you considered trying Krita? >>>=20 >>> There's also Pinta and DigiKam, but I have never used them, =20 >> >>Wow! They have so many dependencies, I'd rather use gimp :-) Still, >>it's too complicated. >> =20 > >If disk space isn't an issue, don't care about the amount of >dependencies. In my experiences with Linux, _not with FreeBSD_ >machines_, GIMP way more often tends to be broken, than Krita does. >OTOH Krita's pitfall are display colour settings. >Unlikely GIMP or Krita will be to complicated for your propose after >using them a few times to crop and rotated pictures, but unfortunately >they are a PITA to use as an image viewer, since it takes way to long >to load a picture. >I've got nearly all available Linux viewers installed, non of them is >to my taste. However, if you want to do simple editing and fast >viewing, consider to sync with a smart phone or tablet PC ;). >A problem with at least iPadOS is the HEIC format and while I'm on a >rolling Linux release (Arch Linux), I still needed to build... > >$ sudo pacman -Syu >[snip] >warning: ifuse: local (1.1.3.r6.ge75d32c-1) is newer than community >(1.1.3-6) >[snip] > >..ifuse myself. Not necessarily needed to sync pictures, but other sync >options come with pitfalls, too. Using it is a PITA, but fortunately >iPadOS allows to connect to a shared external drive. I don't know if >iOS and Android allow this, too. > >I do understand that you want to do it with FreeBSD. I would like to do >it with Linux. Since FreeBSD and Linux software doesn't provide what we >want to do, this is a workaround. > >One machine not necessarily needs to do a good job for everything. My >dishwasher isn't that good, when using it as a sandwich toaster. I have used a lot of different image viewers and editors over the years. I always find myself coming back to Adobe Photoshop. It is not free of course; however, there are numerous cost effective leasing plans available. The only real downside is that it is not compatible with FreeBSD. 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