From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 10:38:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED9B1065679; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from mail01.ish.de (wsmip249.ish.de [80.69.98.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5084B8FC14; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from [81.210.239.8] (account walter.pelissero@iesy.net HELO zaphod.home.loc) by mail-fe-02.mail01.ish.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTPSA id 175050938; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:23:30 +0200 Received: from zaphod.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4JAMj65010926; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:22:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@zaphod.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.13.3/Submit) id m4JAMjVk010922; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:22:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:22:44 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 8.0.9 under Emacs 23.0.60.4 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0) X-Attribution: WP X-For-Spammers: blacklistme@pelissero.de X-MArch-Archive-ID: 58992 X-MArch-Processing-Time: 0.42s Cc: Subject: VIA EX15000G X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:39 -0000 Has anyone tried this motherboard? With 7.0 boot-only disk, I haven't been able to get as far sa "Mounting root filesystem". In fact it stops just before (after probing acd0). As a matter of fact this board doesn't seem to boot FreeBSD 6.3 either, nor 5.4. (Even an old Gentoo 1.4 gets stuck pretty soon in the boot process.) So I thought there might be some BIOS trick I should try before ditching the board. Any help is welcome. -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 11:01:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C428106564A; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s2.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s2.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D5F8FC12; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from venture37@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY138-W44 ([64.4.49.79]) by bay0-omc3-s2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 19 May 2008 03:49:15 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [217.22.88.121] From: Sevan / Venture37 To: , , Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:49:15 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> References: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2008 10:49:16.0194 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB957820:01C8B99D] Cc: Subject: RE: VIA EX15000G X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:01:16 -0000 as a test try a daily snapshot Sevan / Venture37 _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000007ukm/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 12:04:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEB81065688 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D6B8FC15 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2328390fgb.35 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 05:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GF2sAK+c/2zE9PU5vgvluXGtY75NXRvI4X2t5PrcPmw=; b=gvGEha2eCHY5btVAX1/a0YoLeSS4xDokNh3NneL7cKe9sMhteBO28SBjf3y2jW85tBnBYAQ6+TvTKqyla0btnyxBnJ1eQQyFVHExqWMxpytB/5Uvj+n/ckFO1nkc748jFFq+HNfKuTNARqO+JcRZSPwZzZJYBYoxp3N2NKKj8Go= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JyUe9KMXHB9GC1jKJjeTlqYPqLKmoUS6LHHCHKzzyawWlyu6hr6R79DHodqPA2kwDyv0+zxAh3h4zOjVFbSqgpN1UyDqdCk0HZCJOTcCQcGfOwpRJ4Rg8vh2rVu2KvGKsB/9izLe2AZf8ehr/1BqtNkvqo4KY6SOMhXI1S0PJ+Q= Received: by 10.78.182.9 with SMTP id e9mr1824343huf.91.1211196966808; Mon, 19 May 2008 04:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.140.11 with HTTP; Mon, 19 May 2008 04:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436c7eda0805190436r713834ecw90a9920741f72720@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:36:06 +0200 From: "Jonas Lund" To: walter@pelissero.de In-Reply-To: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIA EX15000G X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:04:10 -0000 I have an EN12000eg machine, running 6.2 on it. At the start however i had some crappy fake-raid card installed. If any disks were attached to it the boot would just hang. (Don't remember exactly but i think it died already in the bootloader) I think i have turned off the SW raid built into the board. no memory as to if that affected the machine however. A small note also, check that the bios reports the same amount of memory that you have installed. If it's halved then there's a bug in the chipsets that made atleast my board to use half the memory if the stick had chips with 128MB on it. If you can get a stick with 64MB chips it'll work. See www.mini-itx.com for a hopefully better description :) I'm quite happy with it now. using gmirror, 2x 3.5" disks and a silent machine that only uses 49 watts. / Jonas Lund 2008/5/19, Walter C. Pelissero : > Has anyone tried this motherboard? > > With 7.0 boot-only disk, I haven't been able to get as far sa > "Mounting root filesystem". In fact it stops just before (after > probing acd0). > > As a matter of fact this board doesn't seem to boot FreeBSD 6.3 > either, nor 5.4. (Even an old Gentoo 1.4 gets stuck pretty soon in > the boot process.) So I thought there might be some BIOS trick I > should try before ditching the board. > > Any help is welcome. > > > -- > walter pelissero > http://www.pelissero.de > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 12:04:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32641065679; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from mail01.ish.de (wsmip249.ish.de [80.69.98.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F98E8FC1F; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from [81.210.239.8] (account walter.pelissero@iesy.net HELO zaphod.home.loc) by mail-fe-03.mail01.ish.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTPSA id 11382260; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:04:54 +0200 Received: from zaphod.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4JC2jUI015274; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:02:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@zaphod.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.13.3/Submit) id m4JC2jZp015270; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:02:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18481.27748.848866.54513@zaphod.home.loc> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:02:44 +0200 To: Sevan / Venture37 In-Reply-To: References: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.9 under Emacs 23.0.60.4 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0) X-Attribution: WP X-For-Spammers: blacklistme@pelissero.de X-MArch-Archive-ID: 59001 X-MArch-Processing-Time: 0.42s Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: VIA EX15000G X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:04:56 -0000 Sevan / Venture37 writes: > > as a test try a daily snapshot Just tried 8.0 of May 2008. Same thing. BTW, Gentoo 1.4 eventually boots, disabling the USB disks legacy support in the BIOS. (As far as I understand, it's an emulation that lets primiteve OSs see the USB disks as IDE disks, or something like that.) This doesn't help FreeBSD, though. -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 13:08:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADBF1065680; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from mail01.ish.de (wsmip249.ish.de [80.69.98.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472038FC2A; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from [81.210.239.8] (account walter.pelissero@iesy.net HELO zaphod.home.loc) by mail-fe-03.mail01.ish.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTPSA id 11399825; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:08:44 +0200 Received: from zaphod.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4JD8LBw018058; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:08:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@zaphod.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.13.3/Submit) id m4JD8LZF018055; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:08:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18481.31685.747754.960974@zaphod.home.loc> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:08:21 +0200 To: Christer Solskogen In-Reply-To: References: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.9 under Emacs 23.0.60.4 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0) X-Attribution: WP X-For-Spammers: blacklistme@pelissero.de X-MArch-Archive-ID: 59008 X-MArch-Processing-Time: 0.44s Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: VIA EX15000G X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:08:48 -0000 Christer Solskogen writes: > Have you tried updating the BIOS (if it's available)? As far as I can tell my BIOS is 1.04, while VIA, for the EX boards, provides an "upgrade" to 1.01: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/downloads.jsp?motherboard_id=450 I'm not sure this is funny. -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 13:27:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79D61065679 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from mail01.ish.de (wsmip252.ish.de [80.69.98.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317EE8FC17 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from [81.210.239.8] (account walter.pelissero@iesy.net HELO zaphod.home.loc) by mail-fe-01.mail01.ish.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTPSA id 195907235; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:27:42 +0200 Received: from zaphod.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4JDRNGd018894; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:27:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@zaphod.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by zaphod.home.loc (8.14.2/8.13.3/Submit) id m4JDRNiU018891; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:27:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18481.32827.595664.724170@zaphod.home.loc> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:27:23 +0200 To: "Jonas Lund" In-Reply-To: <436c7eda0805190436r713834ecw90a9920741f72720@mail.gmail.com> References: <18481.21748.522109.722808@zaphod.home.loc> <436c7eda0805190436r713834ecw90a9920741f72720@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.9 under Emacs 23.0.60.4 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0) X-Attribution: WP X-For-Spammers: blacklistme@pelissero.de X-MArch-Archive-ID: 59010 X-MArch-Processing-Time: 0.41s Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIA EX15000G X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:27:46 -0000 Jonas Lund writes: > I have an EN12000eg machine, running 6.2 on it. At the start however i > had some crappy fake-raid card installed. If any disks were attached > to it the boot would just hang. (Don't remember exactly but i think it > died already in the bootloader) No additional card. > I think i have turned off the SW raid built into the board. no memory > as to if that affected the machine however. I'm not aware of any RAID implemented in the motherboard's chipset. > A small note also, check that the bios reports the same amount of > memory that you have installed. If it's halved then there's a bug in > the chipsets that made atleast my board to use half the memory if the > stick had chips with 128MB on it. If you can get a stick with 64MB > chips it'll work. See www.mini-itx.com for a hopefully better > description :) I've installed a 1GB stick. It looks as it is seen correctly (real memory = 958MB, avail memory = 922MB). > I'm quite happy with it now. using gmirror, 2x 3.5" disks and a silent > machine that only uses 49 watts. I was quite happy with an M6000 as well. -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 18:29:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222DB1065675; Tue, 20 May 2008 18:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from parsely.rain.com (parsely.rain.com [199.26.172.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD378FC1D; Tue, 20 May 2008 18:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by parsely.rain.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with UUCP id m4KITCa94907; Tue, 20 May 2008 11:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id SAA25413; Tue, 20 May 2008 18:26:31 GMT Message-Id: <200805201826.SAA25413@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:26:31 +0100 From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:29:15 -0000 The Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders for the OGD1 development board. This PCI-X board has 2 FPGA chips and video outputs (2 heads). List price is $1500, the first 100 orders get a $100 discount. There are developer discounts available, so someone writing a BSD device driver, or working on X11 support, etc. could get a board for $700-1000. There is a variety of development work that needs to be done. Profits from the OGD1 board will be used to bootstrap other FLOSS friendly hardware projects (not limited to graphics). If you are tired of undocumented hardware, here is a chance to do something about it. The product info page: http://www.traversaltech.com/products.phtml The FAQ: http://www.traversaltech.com/ogd1p_faq2.phtml The order page: http://www.traversaltech.com/store.phtml For a developer discount, contact the Open Hardware Foundation: http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 14:24:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F91106564A for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from violentsense@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1E38FC0C for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from violentsense@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so32841nfh.33 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 07:24:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=BcFoUdNbWJJWSbNlgUaypWlcZjz1qzJPfVlc8kNbsAY=; b=dbwNV60zuapggoiRBEqajmSb+8Kgmk5Jukm/spCKGkhp2E1ahjJAW45dV2DFtipUKqZVBOGppPeJIxX8sm6Skh/l2GmnnzYDz2kTqWczrMRIxpajZ5MQ3NOfRGDzFsBt9njZl4jAqF1abPdlXbIWAVAfT5J8QsbMOc1dJi7jPRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; b=ILGX4eu/NaFryHFFfmrAYA1gqdqwTi5y4nWhpGqS8AqIZKh87jK5lRQvQsJ67k/cofXIqsr6t9P6qzTnTV4srLpmWgG4KvJmkQghDfawcDT/kIPms7SBkUHzOec25oRp53Mz9jyQoG9d6oqbQihglJgPyzAsJM43PMkIavOw+fI= Received: by 10.210.66.13 with SMTP id o13mr42093eba.193.1211464637796; Thu, 22 May 2008 06:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hellfire ( [213.33.223.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d23sm24458099nfh.11.2008.05.22.06.57.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 22 May 2008 06:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Nifty" To: Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:57:14 +0400 Message-ID: <000001c8bc13$be9d27b0$1801a8c0@hellfire> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aci8E7zorSaT2unBRKSqs8FyC/TIYQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: SATA dvd-r/rw drives on ICH9R/ICH9R doesn't work in FreeBSD 7/8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:24:52 -0000 Hi! I have two PC's with ICH8R and ICH9R sata controllers. Controller mode set to sata, no AHCI or RAID. Two SATA dvd-r/rw drivers present, SONY-NEC Optiarc AD-7170S, AD-7203S If I try to install FreeBSD 7.0R or FreeBSD 8.0 CURRENT from CD - when kernel boot and try to use CD, I see messages like this: ------------------------------------------------------ acd1: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (1 retries left) acd1: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (0 retries left) acd1: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (repeated two times) ------------------------------------------------------ And then nothing - installation can't recognize CD disk in drive, and I can't install FreeBSD. Regards, Alexandr. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 19:40:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2716C106566B for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [91.121.30.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7586B8FC0A for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: (qmail 13328 invoked by uid 503); 22 May 2008 21:19:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail179.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 22 May 2008 21:19:15 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 22 May 2008 19:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (maciej@suszko.eu@62.61.62.77) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 22 May 2008 19:13:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 21:13:55 +0200 From: Maciej Suszko To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080522211355.77d66de3@suszko.eu> In-Reply-To: <000001c8bc13$be9d27b0$1801a8c0@hellfire> References: <000001c8bc13$be9d27b0$1801a8c0@hellfire> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 14255581672232935464 X-Ovh-Remote: 62.61.62.77 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N Subject: Re: SATA dvd-r/rw drives on ICH9R/ICH9R doesn't work in FreeBSD 7/8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:40:40 -0000 "Nifty" wrote: > Hi! > > I have two PC's with ICH8R and ICH9R sata controllers. Controller > mode set to sata, no AHCI or RAID. > Two SATA dvd-r/rw drivers present, SONY-NEC Optiarc AD-7170S, AD-7203S > If I try to install FreeBSD 7.0R or FreeBSD 8.0 CURRENT from CD - when > kernel boot and try to use CD, I see > messages like this: > > ------------------------------------------------------ > acd1: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (1 retries left) > acd1: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (0 retries left) > acd1: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying > > (repeated two times) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > And then nothing - installation can't recognize CD disk in drive, and > I can't install FreeBSD. Have you tried to wait few minutes? I noticed similar errors but within few minutes the installer started and I had no problems installing 7.0R (motherboard with ICH9, some noname PATA DVD-R drive) -- regards, Maciej Suszko. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 07:55:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76241065675; Fri, 23 May 2008 07:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solarux@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BBE8FC1E; Fri, 23 May 2008 07:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solarux@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY113-W28 ([65.54.168.128]) by bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 23 May 2008 00:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [99.241.18.57] From: Rick Nekus To: , , , Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 07:43:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200805201826.SAA25413@sopwith.solgatos.com> References: <200805201826.SAA25413@sopwith.solgatos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2008 07:43:01.0806 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0C82CE0:01C8BCA8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 07:55:01 -0000 Hi, I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ? or is this obv= iously for development reasons. > To: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; freebsd-mu= ltimedia@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:26:31 +0100> From: freebsd@= sopwith.solgatos.com> CC: > Subject: Open Graphics Project is now taking pr= e-orders> > The Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders for> the OGD= 1 development board. This PCI-X board has 2 FPGA chips> and video outputs (= 2 heads). List price is $1500, the> first 100 orders get a $100 discount. T= here are developer> discounts available, so someone writing a BSD device dr= iver,> or working on X11 support, etc. could get a board for $700-1000.> Th= ere is a variety of development work that needs to be done.> Profits from t= he OGD1 board will be used to bootstrap other FLOSS> friendly hardware proj= ects (not limited to graphics). If you are> tired of undocumented hardware,= here is a chance to do something> about it.> > The product info page:> htt= p://www.traversaltech.com/products.phtml> > The FAQ:> http://www.traversalt= ech.com/ogd1p_faq2.phtml> > The order page:> http://www.traversaltech.com/s= tore.phtml> > For a developer discount, contact the Open Hardware Foundatio= n:> http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/> _______________________________= ________________> freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list> http://lists= .freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia> To unsubscribe, send any = mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which comb= ines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 15:22:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21E6106568F; Fri, 23 May 2008 15:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from parsely.rain.com (parsely.rain.com [199.26.172.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3158FC27; Fri, 23 May 2008 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by parsely.rain.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with UUCP id m4NFMge97299; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id PAA10055; Fri, 23 May 2008 15:15:53 GMT Message-Id: <200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: Rick Nekus In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 2008 07:43:01 -0000." Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 08:15:53 +0100 From: Dieter Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:22:45 -0000 > I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ? > or is this obviously for development reasons. According to the FAQ, While most graphics cards now fit in PCI Express slots, PCI is more popular with users of FPGA kits. We have identified the parts necessary to support PCI Express, so if there is demand, we can build them. In the mean time, we need to sell the PCI version OGD1 to bootstrap our efforts. PCI-X is backward compatible with your 32-bit 33MHz PCI slots, and OGD1 has been tested with several PC motherboards. Note that some PC motherboards may position components so that they interfere with the "extended" part of the PCI card edge for some slots. OGD1 is 6.875in long and 4.2in wide (17.46cm x 10.67cm). Some small form-factor systems do not provide enough room in one or both dimensions. There is a development advantage to PCI. PCI is a bus, so it is easy to sniff the bus if things aren't working. There has been some discussion about writing software to turn the OGD1 into a PCI bus sniffer, for developing other boards. If you are interested in buying a PCIe version of OGD1, OGP needs to hear about it. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 15:39:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4B10657DF for ; Fri, 23 May 2008 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5F38FC1B for ; Fri, 23 May 2008 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 309DD1CC033; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 08:39:37 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Dieter Message-ID: <20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, Rick Nekus , freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:39:37 -0000 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:15:53AM +0100, Dieter wrote: > > I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ? > > or is this obviously for development reasons. > > According to the FAQ, > > While most graphics cards now fit in PCI Express slots, > PCI is more popular with users of FPGA kits. We have > identified the parts necessary to support PCI Express, > so if there is demand, we can build them. In the mean > time, we need to sell the PCI version OGD1 to bootstrap > our efforts. > > PCI-X is backward compatible with your 32-bit 33MHz PCI slots, > and OGD1 has been tested with several PC motherboards. Note > that some PC motherboards may position components so that they > interfere with the "extended" part of the PCI card edge for > some slots. OGD1 is 6.875in long and 4.2in wide > (17.46cm x 10.67cm). Some small form-factor systems do not > provide enough room in one or both dimensions. > > There is a development advantage to PCI. PCI is a bus, so it is easy > to sniff the bus if things aren't working. There has been some > discussion about writing software to turn the OGD1 into a PCI bus > sniffer, for developing other boards. > > If you are interested in buying a PCIe version of OGD1, OGP needs to > hear about it. I think what people (not just here, but folks on Slashdot as well) want to know is: is the PCI-X choice *purely* for development reasons, e.g. will the retail/non-development version (read: transistor-based, no FPGA) of the card be PCIe? If the manufacturer plans on keeping everything PCI-X -- dev cards and commercial/retail cards -- they are making a *huge* mistake. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 16:54:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E44106566C; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from parsely.rain.com (parsely.rain.com [199.26.172.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD448FC0A; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by parsely.rain.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with UUCP id m4NGsu697317; Fri, 23 May 2008 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id QAA05864; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:52:53 GMT Message-Id: <200805231652.QAA05864@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: Jeremy Chadwick In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 2008 08:39:37 PDT." <20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:52:53 +0100 From: Dieter Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-drivers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:54:58 -0000 > I think what people (not just here, but folks on Slashdot as well) want > to know is: is the PCI-X choice *purely* for development reasons, e.g. > will the retail/non-development version (read: transistor-based, no > FPGA) of the card be PCIe? > > If the manufacturer plans on keeping everything PCI-X -- dev cards and > commercial/retail cards -- they are making a *huge* mistake. The plan, as I understand it, is: Develop GPU logic using OGD1 boards. Sell as many OGD1 boards as possible to raise money needed (estimated at US$2M) to fabricate ASIC. Probably do other FLOSS friendly hardware projects to raise money for ASIC. (Ideas welcome) Build OGC boards with ASIC, no FPGA. The ASICs are expected to sell in *much* larger quantities than the FPGA boards. I'm 99.9% sure that the ASIC based OGC boards will be available as PCIe. Possibly PCI or PCI-X and AGP as well, and the bare ASIC chips will be available for embedded applications (PDAs, kiosks, etc.). The big hurdle is raising the US$2M needed to fab the ASIC. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 17:11:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690D106564A; Fri, 23 May 2008 17:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (in-addr.broker.freenet6.net [IPv6:2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::214d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CEE8FC12; Fri, 23 May 2008 17:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Jzanc-000DID-Cq; Fri, 23 May 2008 13:11:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:11:24 -0400 From: Gary Palmer To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20080523171124.GB1142@in-addr.com> References: <200805231515.PAA10055@sopwith.solgatos.com> <20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, Dieter , freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:11:25 -0000 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:39:37AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:15:53AM +0100, Dieter wrote: > > > I'm just curious here, but why PCI-X, why not PCI-EXpress ? > > > or is this obviously for development reasons. > > > > According to the FAQ, > > > > While most graphics cards now fit in PCI Express slots, > > PCI is more popular with users of FPGA kits. We have > > identified the parts necessary to support PCI Express, > > so if there is demand, we can build them. In the mean > > time, we need to sell the PCI version OGD1 to bootstrap > > our efforts. > > > > PCI-X is backward compatible with your 32-bit 33MHz PCI slots, > > and OGD1 has been tested with several PC motherboards. Note > > that some PC motherboards may position components so that they > > interfere with the "extended" part of the PCI card edge for > > some slots. OGD1 is 6.875in long and 4.2in wide > > (17.46cm x 10.67cm). Some small form-factor systems do not > > provide enough room in one or both dimensions. > > > > There is a development advantage to PCI. PCI is a bus, so it is easy > > to sniff the bus if things aren't working. There has been some > > discussion about writing software to turn the OGD1 into a PCI bus > > sniffer, for developing other boards. > > > > If you are interested in buying a PCIe version of OGD1, OGP needs to > > hear about it. > > I think what people (not just here, but folks on Slashdot as well) want > to know is: is the PCI-X choice *purely* for development reasons, e.g. > will the retail/non-development version (read: transistor-based, no > FPGA) of the card be PCIe? > > If the manufacturer plans on keeping everything PCI-X -- dev cards and > commercial/retail cards -- they are making a *huge* mistake. This is answered on their website. The reason they chose PCI-X was that they can slap a PCIe to PCI-X bridge on it without having to choose new FPGAs and respin the boards (which would delay things even more) http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php?page=OGPN20#PCIe (amongst many others) http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.opengraphics.org+pcie Regards, Gary P.S. isn't this thread violating the crossposting rules?