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Date:      Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:58:43 +0000
From:      RW <>
Subject:   Re: What are good mail hosts to use with FreeBSD mailing lists?
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On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 10:55:50 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> > On Feb 6, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Kurt Hackenberg <> wrote:
> > Reminder: Gmail keeps all mail forever, and reads it, ongoing, to
> > decide what advertisements Google's services will play at you.
> > "Free" isn't really free. =20
> I wish it were as benign as just advertisements. Less benign would be
> analysis of the information and use it in political (=E2=80=9Celection=E2=
> play. One can think up even less benign use of everything.
> And as some wise man said: you do not need to recruit spies. Just
> roll out =E2=80=9Cfree=E2=80=9D services, and information will float to y=
> I=E2=80=99m writing all this realizing that it will end up in huge number=
> gmail accounts. As 80 or 90 % of all email does.

Mailing lists aren't private anyway, so that doesn't really matter. I
only use this gmail account for mailing list and only with a traditional
MUA.  I don't see any ads or give them anything that isn't already

gmail appears to give FreeBSD lists some special handling because the
lists modify the body and always break DMARC. On other lists you can
lose posts that are sent from domains with a reject policy.

An alternative is to read lists with an NNTP news reader on

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