From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 30 00:37:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03295 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iway1.iw.net (iway1.iw.net [204.157.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03289 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dragonknight@dtgnet.com) Received: from death (rap-dialup-13.dtgnet.com [216.16.6.13] (may be forged)) by iway1.iw.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02792; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:37:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01be1c3c$2c5f2140$0101a8c0@death> From: "Dragon Knight" To: "Jason Nordwick" , "Christopher S. Weimann" , "Ed Suchocki" , Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:33:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But if the OS was made so people like you could use it then it might at well be Windows 95/98. You can say "FreeBSD Sucks Mah Nutsaq", rant, rave, bitch, and moan all you want. We run FreeBSD, we like it. Granted, its not for everybody. But it wasn't made to be for everybody. It was made for people with an IQ slightly above room temperature. I'd suggest you stick with M$'s BS. Samuel Greear >>Go to http://www.freebsd.org and scroll down the page till you get to >>the section called "Easy to install". >> > >These directions suck. I have often had similar questions as to how to >installed from a DOS disk... like what had to be d/l and where to put >it. > >>You now have everything you need to get FreeBSD installed. Follow the rest >>of the instructions on that page to create a boot disk. This boot disk >>will download everything over your modem ( or network connection if you >>are that lucky ). >> > >Doing a d/l from the boot disk is this: first it is very suseptible to >modem problems and other errors (like computer going down when 90% done), >second it really provides to really good feedback as to when it will be >done, third, you cannot keep the d/l files for a later installed (such as >I have time to d/l but not install). > >>I don't think I told you anything here that isn't obvious from the page. >> > >Nothing is "obvious" from the page. Obvious to you is not obvious to me. >I agree, FreeBSD, is fucking hell to learn to install. > >>Christopher Weimann SysAdmin Wall Internet LLC. > >Hmm... a sysadmin... and you think that you are even qualified to >decide what is easy to install for the rest of us that don't spend >our life on administating a computer? Don't say stupid shit like >"I don't know how to say this..." or "obvious" until you really sit >down and think... hmmm... What would a person completely new to >UNIX-style system and installing OSes in general know. Arghh... > >I used to be a very strong FBSD prophet, but now after coming back >to it after six months, my initial install of -current went horribly; >half of the ports I have tried to install have had at least one >problem (if not multiple, for example www/netscape45-communicator); >user-PPP is a bitch to setup, use, and find information on. I could >go on for a while with this list. > >If anybody really wants the system to get into the mainstream (I actually >don't care if it does), then there are alot of changes that need to be >made. If I knew anything about PPP I'd do one that could actually determine >what port you are trying to use, what the authentication method is, blah >blah blah. > >I'm getting tired of all the ego tripping around here. Everybody thinks >that they have a dope-ass system under them, and there is not enough people >that realize that you have to make parts easier (not dumbdown). This self- >congradulatory attitude will leave FBSD in the dust. Too many people are >too easily satisfied... dream a little more people. > >-jay > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message