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Date:      Wed, 27 Jul 2016 03:18:16 +0200
From:      cpghost <cpghost@cordula.ws>
To:        "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" <stephen@missouri.edu>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, "stephen@FreeBSD.org" <stephen@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: math/open-axiom gone?
Message-ID:  <544ecf5e-4727-0b77-93b0-ab621bcc97d3@cordula.ws>
In-Reply-To: <185fdc77-9589-29aa-57f3-f50576a9ae61@missouri.edu>
References:  <6660901e-1024-8b45-619e-e632eb84df7c@cordula.ws> <185fdc77-9589-29aa-57f3-f50576a9ae61@missouri.edu>

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On 07/27/16 02:17, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen wrote:
> On 07/25/2016 09:18 PM, cpghost wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> after updating my ports tree, I've found out that math/open-axiom
>> has been deleted! After math/fricas unusable with sbcl-1.3.x for
>> many months and now gone too, I'm left with NO alternatives for
>> that kind of software here.
>>
>> Fortunately, I still have a working package of open-axiom on my machine,
>> running with SBCL 1.3.1 right now:
>>
>> $ pkg version -v | grep open-axiom
>> open-axiom-1.4.2_3                 ?   orphaned: math/open-axiom
>>
>> $ uname -a
>> FreeBSD phenom.fritz.box 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 r303311: Mon Jul 25 20:42:34 CEST 2016     root@phenom.fritz.box:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>
>> $ open-axiom
>>              OpenAxiom: The Open Scientific Computation Platform 
>>                           Version: OpenAxiom 1.4.2
>>                  Built on Friday June 19, 2015 at 22:28:27 
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    Issue )copyright to view copyright notices.
>>    Issue )summary for a summary of useful system commands.
>>    Issue )quit to leave OpenAxiom and return to shell.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> (1) -> )quit
>>
>> $ sbcl
>> This is SBCL 1.3.1, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp.
>> More information about SBCL is available at <http://www.sbcl.org/>.
>>
>> SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty.
>> It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under
>> BSD-style licenses.  See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the
>> distribution for more information.
>> * (sb-ext:exit)
>>
>> Do you recommend to switch to Debian GNU/Linux, where those packages
>> are still actively maintained, or is there a chance in hell to see
>> those ports reappear in the near future on FreeBSD?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -cpghost.
>>

Hello, sorry for the late reply.

> How did you manage to build math/open-axiom?  I tried building it again,
> and I am still getting the errors.  You must have at least by-passed the
> BROKEN within the port.

I actually didn't build it now. It was built a while ago (from ports),
and I was just lucky to still have it on that machine. Let me see how
old it is...:

$ ls -l `which open-axiom`
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1019720 Jun 19  2015 /usr/local/bin/open-axiom

Okay, granted, that's *ancient*, already! ;-)

That's why I was surprised that the port disappeared, since I didn't even
notice that it was marked BROKEN. I just kept using the installed program.
I'm surprised it slipped through the upgrade cycle without me noticing,
because last time I upgraded ports on that machine before yesterday was:

$ zfs list -t snap | grep ports
<...snip...>
zroot/usr/ports@2016-05-13-r414969     1.32G      -  22.0G  -

... and, let me see... yes, it was marked BROKEN there. Okay, I'll have
a look then, but I doubt I have the skills to fix that problem.

> Also, regarding your last comment, I must admit that I also find myself
> moving to Linux.  For certain tasks it works better than FreeBSD,
> probably because it has a much larger base of volunteers, and also
> because most people who write open source do it on Linux.

Indeed. I didn't meant to sound harsh. Sorry if it came across as such.
I was running low on coffee and high on frustration. A lot of good ports
just vanished in the last couple of years.

I really prefer FreeBSD for many, many reasons; but sometimes, you need
to get some work done, and done pretty fast, and there's not much time
to go hunting for the reason why a program won't compile, while on Linux,
a './configure && make && make install' would usually suffice (more or less,
of course, after getting all the dependencies in place).

I hope we can find the problem that's preventing bootstrapping. ;-)

Regards,

-cpghost.

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