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Date:      Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:57:13 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        nate@root.org
Cc:        acpi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, ume@FreeBSD.ORG, gahr@gahr.ch
Subject:   Re: [patch] enhance powerd(8) to handle max temperature
Message-ID:  <20070802.115713.71149193.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <46B20F91.5080709@root.org>
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From: Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] enhance powerd(8) to handle max temperature
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:08:33 -0700

> M. Warner Losh wrote:
> > In message: <46AE8F78.1060203@root.org>
> >             Nate Lawson <nate@root.org> writes:
> > : Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
> > : >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:31:33 +0200
> > : >>>>>> Pietro Cerutti <gahr@gahr.ch> said:
> > : > gahr> My patch is really just a first draft that I wrote in order to have
> > : > gahr> feedbacks on the general idea to implement a temperature controlling
> > : > gahr> system inside powerd, and doesn't implement hysteresis as you noted, and
> > : > gahr> your feedback is that it's not a good idea, which I respect.
> > : > 
> > : > It is rather backward, IMHO.  I did implement a passive cooling
> > : > feature as an enhancement of powerd(8) like you did, during initial
> > : > phases.  Then, I implemented it in our kernel as a result.
> > : 
> > : I'll take a look at your patch.  Umemoto-san is right in that you really
> > : want the kernel to control cooling.  What happens if powerd dies/hangs
> > : and your system burns up?  Passive cooling is often a last resort to
> > : keep the system from overheating.
> > 
> > I keep getting the system shutting down on my HP by FreeBSD because
> > the temperature exceeds the _CRT value.  Maybe there's something wrong
> > with my values, since it happens a lot:
> > 
> > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
> > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
> > hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 0.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 90.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 94.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 40.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
> > 
> > Note: temperature is always 0.0C.
> > 
> > What can I do to help my situation, if I really want the kernel doing
> > the cooling?
> 
> Your embedded controller is timing out.  Thus you're getting a bogus
> value for _TMP.
> 
> Those settings for _CRT appear correct.  It's the "measured" temperature
> that is wrong.

So how do I track down the problem?  I'm tired of the system just
shutting down when I'm building OOO or even something simpler like
doing a buildworld...

Warner



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