From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Jan 15 14: 2:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A2B37B400; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.posi.net ([12.236.90.177]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020115220208.PZFF5944.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@gateway.posi.net>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:02:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (kbyanc@localhost) by gateway.posi.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0FM26C21862; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kbyanc@posi.net) X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.posi.net: kbyanc owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:02:06 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Yancey To: John Baldwin Cc: Terry Lambert , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, bmilekic@technokratis.com, imp@village.org, Mats Lofkvist , Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: 64 bit counters again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, John Baldwin wrote: > FWIW, I agree that doing 64-bit counters on IA32 is more of a pain > than its worth, so I think it's not quite the Terry vs. the world > some people would like to believe. Terry is trying to get people > to use solutions that scale. Bumping the size of the counter for > bytes doesn't scale, it just postpones the problem a little. > > If you really want a 64-bit counter, go get an alpha or when 5.0 > comes out an ultrasparc or ia64 box. > I'm sorry, but that's akin to saying that implementing SMP on i386 is more of a pain than it is worth and if you really want a good SMP implementation you should just buy a box from Sun. A legitimate engineering problem was presented, presumably there is a legitimate engineering solution. Finding one that everyone can agree on is another thing entirely... :) Kelly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message