From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 22 11:32:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABC4037B424 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 21886 invoked by uid 100); 22 Apr 2001 18:32:49 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15075.9169.86805.82242@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:32:49 -0500 To: chat@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with In-Reply-To: <200104221816.UAA72149@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <20010422120354.B26375@cec.wustl.edu> <200104221816.UAA72149@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Replies have been pointed to -chat, as this does *not* belong on -stable!] Oliver Fromme types: > Andrew Hesford wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:54:55AM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > > > Perhaps it's time to make the mailing lists moderated, or unpostable > > > unless you're subscribed? > > Yes, I see more crap. And I agree we should make the list unpostable to > > those who aren't subscribed. > NO! I'm not subscribed (I'm reading the list via a news > gateway, because this is much more convenient), but I'd > still like to be able to post to it. Quite right. Questions clearly can't be so filtered. People are already having problems with the anti-spam measures on the lists; making it worse isn't a good idea. > > Being a young, firey student with time to kill, I usually send harsh > > letters back, occassionally with large binary attachments. > Very bad idea. In most cases you'll hit the wrong one. > [ ... ] That's why you don't mailbomb or otherwise harass anyone about spam. Theren's generally no good way to locate the offending mailbox. > The best thing is simply to ignore that stuff, and use > filters. I disagree. I send politely worded complaints, along with the complete text of the spam, to the administrators of any machines mentioned in body at web address or email addresses. Ditto for the machine mentioned on the first Received line added by one of my machines. If 10% of the people who got a spam followed the above practice, I think most ISPs would do everything in their power to make sure that nobody used their machines for spam or any such thing. It would be far more effective than the RBL and similar nonsense. All I have to do is get MS to add a "complain about spam" button to OutLook. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message