From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 03:49:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D279106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 03:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB778FC15 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 03:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28255 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2011 03:49:43 -0000 Received: from 24-113-112-30.wavecable.com (HELO [192.168.2.2]) (tomdean@[24.113.112.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jul 2011 03:49:43 -0000 From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: bf1783@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Home Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:49:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1310269783.14697.12.camel@asus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade Package Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tomdean@speakeasy.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 03:49:44 -0000 On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 19:54 -0400, b. f. wrote: > occasionally trip over problems that will require intervention. (Note > that in the section of the csup file that you reproduced in an earlier > message, 'release-cvs' should be 'release=cvs'.) The '-' was a typo on my part. The machine I used for email is not the machine I am updating. I am updating that machine, now. The supfile contains *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 This should track 8-stable. Correct? After the build finishes, portupgrade should fetch from 8-stable. A slow, remote machine... tomdean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 04:35:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB38F1065673 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65FA8FC13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi7 with SMTP id 7so2502740pwi.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:35:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SpyZfvX+AahwHSBtSTwJa95IP58p1HH8noOADR5xhrM=; b=DkNX6RYC+FpnSc694ikCZLITVBeYcm3KWdy5rZj46lXT6l53rZ+FW0QW8aqo+n2uEl 9JDSSMg9Y3EGDz4DZj73WBhvJ2O9J62NVWhIWQNVFsjzo8FCo5RSIC5+c6ImlBaRECv6 V2vqKlTPMdF0047wpZns5EsIf7HzmdFILgcv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.27.100 with SMTP id s4mr5515051pbg.491.1310272529080; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.64.104 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 21:35:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1310269783.14697.12.camel@asus> References: <1310269783.14697.12.camel@asus> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:35:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: tomdean@speakeasy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade Package Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:35:30 -0000 On 7/9/11, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 19:54 -0400, b. f. wrote: > >> occasionally trip over problems that will require intervention. (Note >> that in the section of the csup file that you reproduced in an earlier >> message, 'release-cvs' should be 'release=cvs'.) > > The '-' was a typo on my part. The machine I used for email is not the > machine I am updating. > > I am updating that machine, now. The supfile contains > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 > > This should track 8-stable. Correct? This is the tag that you would use on src collections to update your base system sources (usually in /usr/src) to 8-STABLE. You would use RELENG_8_2 for the 8.2-STABLE security branch, RELENG_8_2_RELEASE for 8.2-RELEASE, and so on. But src tags are not the same as ports tags. That is why they have separate example supfiles for the base system sources, and for ports. And that is also why they have the prominent warning in the base system example supfiles: ############################################################################### # # DANGER! WARNING! LOOK OUT! VORSICHT! # # If you add any of the ports or doc collections to this file, be sure to # specify them with a "tag" value set to ".", like this: # # ports-all tag=. # doc-all tag=. # # If you leave out the "tag=." portion, CVSup will delete all of # the files in your ports or doc tree. That is because the ports and doc # collections do not use the same tags as the main part of the FreeBSD # source tree. # ############################################################################### As far as I know, the ports collection has no tags for any stable branches, only tags made at the time of releases. So for ports, if you are running 8.2-RELEASE, you have three choices: (1) use RELEASE_8_2_0 if you want to stick with a snapshot of the ports tree taken at the time of the release, or (2) use "." if you want up-to-date ports, or (3) choose a specific snapshot of ports via date= instead of tag= (for details, see, for example, the csup(1) manpage.) > > After the build finishes, portupgrade should fetch from 8-stable. I'm not sure what you mean here. As I wrote before, you need to make some additional changes to ensure that portupgrade uses 8-stable packages if you have an 8.2-RELEASE base system. Just having a up-to-date ports tree and index isn't sufficient. However, if you replace your 8.2-RELEASE base system with a newer 8.2-STABLE or 8-STABLE base system, then portupgrade should fetch the 8-stable packages by default, without any additional changes. You could cheat, and neither upgrade your base system nor make the changes I mentioned in my last message, but instead fool portupgrade into thinking that you have a newer base system, by setting UNAME_R to something like "8.2-STABLE" in your environment when you call portupgrade, but you are bound to run into problems eventually by lying in that way. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 04:42:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DAF106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBA48FC15 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so2940930pzk.13 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:42:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=eizYjM+XSSLKgsiTS6fTORKw2Pc2z9VLegAllub6PJs=; b=rlYasQtLOSt1aD4tigbW6+Z7uxIuDUqrjwrdZvyGiKixpCbODzH9WtIDjYBGQeBHI3 aObwQojckIP8CqvEHTxuSzJIQgWVBUAEi1jprMd4WlnUdkeGcCuzin8HOcI/GwtTq36A 0l4PKgaEubyuWhhRpBGP4mz1mliWn2v9M069I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.25.201 with SMTP id e9mr5635573pbg.22.1310272964165; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.64.104 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 21:42:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1310269783.14697.12.camel@asus> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:42:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: tomdean@speakeasy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade Package Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:42:44 -0000 On 7/10/11, b. f. wrote: > On 7/9/11, Thomas D. Dean wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 19:54 -0400, b. f. wrote: > You could cheat, and neither upgrade your base system nor make the > changes I mentioned in my last message, but instead fool portupgrade > into thinking that you have a newer base system, by setting UNAME_R to Sorry, that should be "UNAME_r", with a lower-case "r", above. But, as I wrote, using that workaround is probably not a good idea. > something like "8.2-STABLE" in your environment when you call > portupgrade, but you are bound to run into problems eventually by > lying in that way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 09:29:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E55106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne.mitchell.iz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936C68FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg11 with SMTP id 11so1524317wwg.1 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:29:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+kKHKL7Ji86L3QHWb3yte0RaSBePWb8Pa648pMOJ9Rc=; b=PdquNeLh3y5635XP/uDLJJiBdC8CABCM2cbEPiiMXNmZsueU65rXFj4G17OU+U3iKr 035Iw13BMgvHOkxEs9gnu6s8klgayeXuxK4LsGqk/r7FlvmVu9qr43yJdGGYvPZnmW01 XlPgBGnuo3W+Gl/076e8Mp4acZZEZyrhwLDLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.78.206 with SMTP id g56mr3253576wee.37.1310290173217; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.186.197 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:29:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: wayne mitchell To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: audio/multimedia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:29:35 -0000 hey, i am trying to set up a machine for multimedia & audio studio purposes am having trouble with drivers/devices have got all docs with freebsd package (8.1-release) two points: 1. where are the particular docs/books for audio/studio AND/OR device drive configuriing - could you provide ISBN's hhtp-ref's and such. otherwise 2. i can provide specific detail of what i want to do, what i am trying to do and what i do not understand plus technical detail - if you want From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 11:10:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFFF1065676 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FC98FC1E for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so2643502pvg.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:10:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NvSmnlbrwYz8qxMlHec9R2FBT5bKWbCgrv9nnk5XwAg=; b=dZhKV/85tUfDVhesM+AOr78fbM5pQYoZBArGr250m1SbI3JqR/lgKGV0am19ykIaC+ 1LwXAqoOI91t2LX9YOPeRr0BgR1DYLVznR0meD5yitHdpAYMXQFKE/2HSvUR/En9ytKM sV/QkZ1W6ODweBK6AmORDA4Z1+A1Ez8UkVDlk= Received: by 10.68.33.38 with SMTP id o6mr5320757pbi.73.1310296251696; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([14.96.218.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x1sm7678904pbb.66.2011.07.10.04.10.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E1988D9.2010000@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:41:21 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 To: Chuck Swiger References: <20110709053404.B1FC910656AE@hub.freebsd.org> <4E18332F.1040805@gmail.com> <0C3600E5-1324-4852-894A-D29F3445660C@mac.com> <4E18805F.2000401@gmail.com> <64F2085C-AC27-4498-8E33-48E7FE92CC9F@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <64F2085C-AC27-4498-8E33-48E7FE92CC9F@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk spinning continuously + cpu possibly overheating = sudden death X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:10:54 -0000 Hi Chuck, I ran memtest86+ by loading it from the loader prompt. It completed Pass 1 with no errors in about 45 minutes. While I'll re-run memtest86+ for at least 2 passes tonight, I more suspect bad blocks in my ffs slice. So I am planning to install sysutils/smartmontools and run smartctl on /dev/ad8s2 (the ffs slice). Is there any port for monitoring system thermals, particularly CPU ? Regards Manish Jain On 09-Jul-11 22:24, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Manish Jain wrote: What do I make of it when the system runs flawlessly both on Win XP and FreeBSD -8.0-amd64 ? That's interesting but inconclusive. Can you run prime95 testing overnight und er WinXP without issues? Or memtest86? BTW, 8.2 does NOT - for reasons unfathomable to me - install /usr/sbin/apmd. I don't know how significant that is, but I have had to insert into rc.conf : apm_enable="NO" apmd_enable="NO" ACPI replaced APM around 2000. (I'm assuming you don't have a 11-year-old quad -core Phenom system, since AMD didn't make such processors until 2007 or 2008.) Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 11:12:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79378106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A418FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p6ABBvf5066204; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:11:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4E1988FC.7040306@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:11:56 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110508 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wayne mitchell References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: audio/multimedia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:12:04 -0000 2011-07-10 11:29, wayne mitchell skrev: > hey, > i am trying to set up a machine for multimedia& audio studio purposes > am having trouble with drivers/devices What kind of trouble? > have got all docs with freebsd package (8.1-release) > two points: > 1. where are the particular docs/books for audio/studio AND/OR device > drive configuriing - could you provide ISBN's hhtp-ref's and such. > otherwise > 2. i can provide specific detail of what i want to do, what i am > trying to do and what i do not understand plus technical detail - if > you want Post what information you have. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 12:26:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187D1106564A; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3AC8FC12; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DF71CBA5; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:26:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D2E211CBA4; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:26:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p5B37B008.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.176.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55C901CB94; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:26:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:26:17 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/ICitDr9IVUgfV8mY8Yu1fTF" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:26:24 -0000 --MP_/ICitDr9IVUgfV8mY8Yu1fTF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a filesystem-issue or c) both. To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case) and the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated (because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a `zfs mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct behaviour and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in the standard setup? Thank you, cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:59:48 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: Subject: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] I run my notebook under FreeBSD 8.2-stable, r223699. I have setup my disks with ZFS so that I boot from a very small rpool and mount datasets, among these /usr from another pool configured on top of an AES encrypted GELI. When installing a new world using this setup, it is necessary to manually adapt /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal, mountcritlocal_start() to do a zfs mount -a. Failing to do so causes my rootpool to be mounted (which follows from rc.conf), then the GELI volume to be unlocked. After this, the boot routine hangs, as /usr (which resides) on the encrypted vol, which is not mounted, as the canonical zfs mounts are mounted before GELI. I cannot imagine that I am the only one to run ZFSes on an encrypted GELI volume. Am I booting this setup in an inadvisable way, so that I need to run into problems? If not, then it might be an idea to include a zfs mount -a in mountcritlocal in the canonical rc.d-setup. Am I getting this right or could you please comment? Thank you, cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 --MP_/ICitDr9IVUgfV8mY8Yu1fTF Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=zfs-mountcritlocal.patch *** /usr/src/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal 2011-06-30 21:37:46.097575355 +0200 --- /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal 2011-07-01 18:03:43.518493334 +0200 *************** *** 36,41 **** --- 36,42 ---- done mount_excludes=${mount_excludes%,} mount -a -t ${mount_excludes} + zfs mount -a err=$? check_startmsgs && echo '.' --MP_/ICitDr9IVUgfV8mY8Yu1fTF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --MP_/ICitDr9IVUgfV8mY8Yu1fTF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 12:39:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD729106564A; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from inyaoo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCCC8FC14; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so2900777wyg.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=K6ZWom27UxxE9/156jZ21uJPCJIimiHT9MWPfQ33cYc=; b=HC2srUTDgrNF9iB55T8IzcbZ2llDEBlBNBZW6Trzipr2bSBPzwaMxGgVcNXYqDScy9 PYtBFobWhK8DJYWB1Gb5BwHsvYpm42BOVnm3uc8uuzPiVv9w4D3I+eeEFCPuiUxar9BV EcTzgCz2dX2Fmp6C5MDkJeaU6Nh7qLKmWnSMA= Received: by 10.216.231.165 with SMTP id l37mr3163591weq.78.1310301545061; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tor6.anonymizer.ccc.de [80.237.226.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k43sm2487692wed.33.2011.07.10.05.38.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:39:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Pan Tsu To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> (Christopher J. Ruwe's message of "Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:26:17 +0200") Message-ID: <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:39:07 -0000 "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: > Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but probalby my > question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a > filesystem-issue or c) both. > > To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be mounted > before another service is activated (GELI in my case) and the rest of > the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated (because they require > GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a `zfs mount -a` to > mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct behaviour and wouldn't it > make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in the standard setup? [...] Have you tried to set zfs_enable=YES in rc.conf? Based on rcorder(8) output rc.d/zfs should come just after rc.d/mountcritlocal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 13:02:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141C1106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09F78FC13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so3057990vws.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 06:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.93.67 with SMTP id cs3mr4598967vdb.4.1310302932145; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 06:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l18sm7422884vby.14.2011.07.10.06.02.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 06:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RBqTF4yDvz2CG44 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:02:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110710090209.6e19ba0d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <1310269783.14697.12.camel@asus> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Portupgrade Package Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:02:15 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:35:28 -0400 b. f. articulated: > This is the tag that you would use on src collections to update your > base system sources (usually in /usr/src) to 8-STABLE. You would use > RELENG_8_2 for the 8.2-STABLE security branch, RELENG_8_2_RELEASE for > 8.2-RELEASE, and so on. Reading through the archives, several years worth, it appears that this is one of the most frequently asked questions. Many users, both new (obviously) and some not so new get confused as to what is the proper tag to use for each branch; ie "Stable" "Current", etc.Maybe there should be some way to make it easier to understand. For example: 8.2-RELEASE: original release of code sans any updates, etc. 8.2-STABLE: released version plus security updates 8.2-CURRENT: All updates, security & otherwise to the original version ?-CURRENT: The absolute latest release of FreeBSD irregardless of what version it is. Anyway, it is just a suggestion. In any case I think it might be easier for some to comprehend. Anything that eliminates confusion is a plus. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 14:05:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A931065672; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFBA8FC42; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E351CE76; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:05:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 0D2B31CE70; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:05:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p5B37B008.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.176.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97DE21CE5E; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:05:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:05:04 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: Pan Tsu Message-ID: <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/g_=5Uw8m_5L.Z.3xp0eX_.p"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:05:17 -0000 --Sig_/g_=5Uw8m_5L.Z.3xp0eX_.p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0400 Pan Tsu wrote: > "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: >=20 > > Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but > > probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a > > filesystem-issue or c) both. > > > > To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be > > mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case) and > > the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated > > (because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a `zfs > > mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct behaviour > > and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in > > the standard setup? > [...] >=20 > Have you tried to set zfs_enable=3DYES in rc.conf? Based on rcorder(8) > output rc.d/zfs should come just after rc.d/mountcritlocal. zfs_enable=3D"YES" is set. rcorder gives curious output, so maybe my etcs a= re wrong? $> rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs rcorder: file `/etc/rc.d/zfs' is before unknown provision `mountlate' /etc/rc.d/zfs $> rcorder /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal rcorder: requirement `root' in file `/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal' has no provi= ders. /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal However, I fear I have not made my intent clear. My boot-sequence should be= as follows (intermittent steps left out): 1) mount zfs root-fs, which is on plain standard zpool A 2) unlock another, GELI-encrypted zpool B 3) mount all other fs (/usr,...), which reside on zpool B What my system does is first to mount the fs on zpool A, then GELI-unlock a= nd then halt because the contents of /usr are not accessible (yet) What I want my system to do is to first mount root, then unlock GELI and t= hen mount all other remaining fs on zpool B. I could either mount all remaining zfs'es in mountcritlocal, which requires another line there, which I have added locally as put in my patch. I cannot shift the order so that GELI-unlock comes first, because my keys for GELI reside on /boot, which resides on zpool A. So, is my setup anything from unfortunate to plain stupid or is mountcritlocal missing a statement catering for such cases as I described? Thank you for your help, cheers, --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 --Sig_/g_=5Uw8m_5L.Z.3xp0eX_.p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOGbGVAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUPjQQANILgykncBQ0VL85din/a3HY veGlmpfVWM2I+lebeOwLEU3EJx93+T8mMbEQp0btz7J1Jd8Guf+2BeBJ1IZMkIYC qR/foBnBH5LQYUP8BLjozXB9Y2KgmekTDqQqTImUuDMXOlfi0HGQatGviUYRB3fy zjohMsK42VIQtG1x9UAkDpCe8K5NkFB2OrQ6zGVYiIoT68O89C/skKCa2g4KL4bi +QeaG5ShqeRNiiowPUsaTW0PVXuscg2r0GTKD6Y0ZWzwEAhm0pSojR9W6IshwTws 59hlHYjv0TeiYRDhuTP8nhSpkmVWAO4qqyPh0cSsvd3Ot8M7drIwIzeivAA81x98 J88K70rP/QWBCbpwsZcPFAIIQdURBvgn6T7OiTm0nDzWr2+JX+RjNVj3FPehxCNA xAEvREkEFb61jPkTue6Bb4HC47aAkhpowgegWFUdRGskRhmpFjZ+hnht6oL9a1xp nEf+mxnieL3eCa5U/4RtuX2ZtciBOuL9/Se/1Zk+nwsKGAnZsu7we8pNYrqysBER eUpX6yqERUWW2yLHPYbvQYFw4GeJwId7jf9bm+xx7dR5nFGJ5/lgsLCLKAEP4zVQ vQnAI3dHYawrz1+Dshh5XLWnk9dYnbJOr2jZuuXc7KkKydG8I/oNmLj5yLP+79g0 iNuDBw6DepWIDELEKVUL =bSSb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/g_=5Uw8m_5L.Z.3xp0eX_.p-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 14:50:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBCB1065672 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5380A8FC17 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6Eq91h0010QkzPwACEqjkN; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:50:43 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([67.180.84.87]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6Eqi1h00r1t3BNj8NEqi0J; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:50:43 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8ACF8102C36; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 07:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 07:50:44 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" Message-ID: <20110710145044.GA94832@icarus.home.lan> References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pan Tsu Subject: Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:50:46 -0000 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:05:04PM +0200, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0400 > Pan Tsu wrote: > > > "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: > > > > > Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but > > > probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not really a > > > filesystem-issue or c) both. > > > > > > To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be > > > mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case) and > > > the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated > > > (because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a `zfs > > > mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct behaviour > > > and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to mountcritlocal in > > > the standard setup? > > [...] > > > > Have you tried to set zfs_enable=YES in rc.conf? Based on rcorder(8) > > output rc.d/zfs should come just after rc.d/mountcritlocal. > > zfs_enable="YES" is set. rcorder gives curious output, so maybe my etcs are wrong? > > $> rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs > rcorder: file `/etc/rc.d/zfs' is before unknown provision `mountlate' > /etc/rc.d/zfs > > $> rcorder /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal > rcorder: requirement `root' in file `/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal' has no providers. > /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal You're using rcorder wrong here. "rcorder /etc/rc.d/*" will get you what you're looking for. Yes, literally an asterisk. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 15:20:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CDE1065670; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5D68FC08; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0369A1C123; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:20:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D35C31C121; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:20:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p5B37B008.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.176.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCB591C110; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:20:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:20:12 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd@jdc.parodius.com Message-ID: <20110710172012.51fce47c@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20110710145044.GA94832@icarus.home.lan> References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> <20110710145044.GA94832@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/A=OqQpayWJb/b1/olJpKxKn"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, inyaoo@gmail.com Subject: Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:20:25 -0000 --Sig_/A=OqQpayWJb/b1/olJpKxKn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 07:50:44 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:05:04PM +0200, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:38:43 +0400 > > Pan Tsu wrote: > >=20 > > > "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: > > >=20 > > > > Nearly a week ago I posted this question to freebsd-fs, but > > > > probalby my question is a) worded too complicatedly, b) not > > > > really a filesystem-issue or c) both. > > > > > > > > To rephrase: In setups requiring one or more ZFS-dataset to be > > > > mounted before another service is activated (GELI in my case) > > > > and the rest of the ZFS-datasets after that service is activated > > > > (because they require GELI), it seems to be necessary to add a > > > > `zfs mount -a` to mountcritlocal. Is this considered correct > > > > behaviour and wouldn't it make sense to add such a line to > > > > mountcritlocal in the standard setup? > > > [...] > > >=20 > > > Have you tried to set zfs_enable=3DYES in rc.conf? Based on > > > rcorder(8) output rc.d/zfs should come just after > > > rc.d/mountcritlocal. > >=20 > > zfs_enable=3D"YES" is set. rcorder gives curious output, so maybe my > > etcs are wrong? > >=20 > > $> rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs > > rcorder: file `/etc/rc.d/zfs' is before unknown provision > > `mountlate' /etc/rc.d/zfs > >=20 > > $> rcorder /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal > > rcorder: requirement `root' in file `/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal' has > > no providers. /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal >=20 > You're using rcorder wrong here. "rcorder /etc/rc.d/*" will get you > what you're looking for. Yes, literally an asterisk. >=20 I see. Thank you. That gives me (I skip the rest after mountcritlocal) /etc/rc.d/zvol /etc/rc.d/zfs /etc/rc.d/dumpon /etc/rc.d/ddb /etc/rc.d/initrandom /etc/rc.d/geli /etc/rc.d/gbde /etc/rc.d/encswap /etc/rc.d/ccd /etc/rc.d/swap1 /etc/rc.d/fsck /etc/rc.d/root /etc/rc.d/hostid_save /etc/rc.d/mdconfig /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal This makes sense to me and reflects the order I assumed in my description. = The question remains, however, if my configuration is of any in {unusual, .= .., stupid} as I require first zfs mount of /, then GELI-unlock and then zf= s mount of {/usr,/usr/local, ...}. Anyhow, thanks for setting me up on the proper usage of rcorder. Cheers,=20 --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 --Sig_/A=OqQpayWJb/b1/olJpKxKn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOGcMxAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwU9bQQAOPzESChzsRE/gJleQzaRm8P e7SGlvrJkix+2QlHq2GkS53Xm5A2jugEwzPoOfu7K0yNYUCFnGLDQAyCunR5OcQb xnB9ga1+XjlU6vilHjddOVeb0uv9nk3CJuTetSic9Br9puJYkLO3pLiO3pGv1Pur xiGhW1a2otKzkhI92eywURnovUo7vJ+ouwkhbubqqMmNkojY9E1zdlY9RJtXkbxZ mIOb97Ruio+YbrKWs1O36kWEJ0Djgmvh1CvpE5lgQVh9MJ2kzajHi8VotWBQVZSp 7vEhmfXH08eH9+jrju/m6qFj3e8RJVB7xI8i1B33o6iuoT3LBxP8Ke5AXXdHf6Pp KFt75DvuKYqCuytTargkP2NFosCwISCdy6C18q13hfy2Q5YWo7yl2bfvJctJKkn5 8uYow30HyvwLJYe9LjcdDC+l7XnOHTNfWpHyqYFHd2OO9FAqlD9PCeP6Ci2yEUg2 zRDaiJ7Th+f56hkN3e/GtfQJwK2Xp3uVyope5gsHpe6yjPBMxajAq+WjtomzAt6R EtU5P0sUHsnFBRid23dp1/tSoFZndTGg3MLBjyZUVMXraConIxwSVMxk8ec4qeAt p0keYtZ9lUkpfQXoTf7Lrj1kJF9YJtzrSzmyGw7cex55j6Y80OwQdVhhWEJ1/0TT gbHZF/Cnx+E37c8ALE+5 =uN0b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/A=OqQpayWJb/b1/olJpKxKn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 15:31:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7BE106564A for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B444E8FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:31:41 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oQVpKkgAgkUsYuH2+w5mGCLDTeNurCYMAd1g6sX67sg= c=1 sm=0 a=MrSsFaCB6-8A:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=6t897P8KHe7fvyjA7-0A:9 a=71c_F_8JnXjy7sGyKWsA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=w4XKTQWq1bvftmtN:21 a=qmqnZy2MOiEyGmYk:21 a=Y155h1DoS737AfrD/5xiRQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=FreeBSD@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=FreeBSD@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.user=FreeBSD; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 208.46.39.11 as permitted sender) Received: from [208.46.39.11] ([208.46.39.11:38371] helo=laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id DA/56-01590-0C1C91E4; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:14:08 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:14:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.6.4; i386; ; ) References: <20110710090209.6e19ba0d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110710090209.6e19ba0d@scorpio> X-Face: 'CKH?$7Tmstol+2>#.#vG:vLzHB7#y&*vf9zUAuvboAg[stvjtqmvk0|3muH3SRC=jkCG] 3rWO]#<$z'k_J!bW}h1m\tg(Sjv}k^)&:2Y}qB, ]soJ@:0hn$8'ForyG\WR8lF*'2w(1Hn e+6I(C8N?(^qV9TK7bh"@%I?bf3-~2]IyzY{JA@nGnP8# MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201107101114.01632.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: Portupgrade Package Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:31:42 -0000 > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:35:28 -0400 > > b. f. articulated: > > This is the tag that you would use on src collections to update your > > base system sources (usually in /usr/src) to 8-STABLE. You would use > > RELENG_8_2 for the 8.2-STABLE security branch, RELENG_8_2_RELEASE for > > 8.2-RELEASE, and so on. > > Reading through the archives, several years worth, it appears that this > is one of the most frequently asked questions. Many users, both new > (obviously) and some not so new get confused as to what is the proper > tag to use for each branch; ie "Stable" "Current", etc.Maybe there > should be some way to make it easier to understand. For example: > > 8.2-RELEASE: original release of code sans any updates, etc. > > 8.2-STABLE: released version plus security updates > > 8.2-CURRENT: All updates, security & otherwise to the original version > > ?-CURRENT: The absolute latest release of FreeBSD irregardless of what > version it is. > > Anyway, it is just a suggestion. In any case I think it might be easier > for some to comprehend. Anything that eliminates confusion is a plus. I have 34 years experience as a Data Systems technician, system admin, developer, and tech writer, yet I till won't claim I know everything, so please don't flame me. Constructive, polite criticism is welcome. I began my career before Unix or MicroSucks even existed. It is a misnomer to attach a release number to current or stable. CURRENT is called HEAD in source code control vernacular. CURRENT's "number" is transient. It is often incorrectly referred to as 9. Please refrain from such usage. It is technically incorrect and confuses users who have no knowledge of source code control. Same goes for STABLE. In my opinion, the real confusion is in ascertaining what you SHOULD be using. If you want to run FreeBSD, KDE, gnome, etc., as a PRODUCTION machine, yo should NOT be using CURRENT or STABLE. You should be installing a RELEASE on a TEST machine, verify that ALL your user applications have no showstopper anomales, and DEPLOY the release AFTER testing has given you a great dela of confidence in the software. You should JUMP from a release to the next release, using the testing and deployment mentioned. You WILL get security updates if you track a release, such as 8.2. But again, don't just update your sources and deploy. TEST it on a test machine, before exposing your end users to it. This is referred to as PROFESSIONALISM. The ONLY people that should be tracking STABLE or CURRENT are the people who DON'T need their hand held for system administration. If you violate this protocol, you will be taking developers time away from development to TRAIN you in system admin. PLEASE don't. Hope this helps and if it offends you, please take the time to think about it before you flame me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 16:43:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF71106566B for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DA38FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 18so3135628vws.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:43:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.73.164 with SMTP id m4mr4645882vdv.157.1310316234136; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.167.197 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:43:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.166.60] In-Reply-To: <20110708110005.GD34870@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20110707224435.GA27624@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110708110005.GD34870@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:43:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: tftp - bad checksum error? can't transfer file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:43:55 -0000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> I've had some trouble netbooting / jumpstaring recently with a similar >> pattern (using RARP/BOOTP/TFTP/NFS). It turned out to be a dying >> port on the switch whose errors were masked by TCP in day to day >> use, but alas were too frequent for UDP. > > I just have a direct ethernet connection > between my FreeBSD laptop with bootpd/tftpd > servers (one ethernet port only) and a node > which I want to boot (also a single ethernet > port). Is there way for me to check whether > either of these ports are "dying"? > Any further diagnostics I can do? Just push a lot of data (/dev/zero, /dev/urandom, ...) over this connection, via ssh or something like that, and monitor the error rates in "netstat -in" on both ends. Look at Ierrs, Idrop and Oerrs columns. If one of those ports are dying, or if your cable isn't properly shielded, you'll notice immediately. > Many thanks > Anton -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 17:15:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE7F1065674 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91FD8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfxay-0003y8-9W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:15:04 +0200 Received: from 87-206-44-5.dynamic.chello.pl ([87.206.44.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:15:04 +0200 Received: from rafal1000 by 87-206-44-5.dynamic.chello.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:15:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Rafal Jagielski Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <4DB5CEF9.3070202@blakemfg.com> <4DB6970B.7020604@blakemfg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 87.206.44.5 (Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; pl) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01) Subject: Re: problem updating ports (latex-cjk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:15:10 -0000 Can confirm that this problem still exists. same log as described. latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 # be compatible with Debian find: /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk/work/ccmap: No such file or directory rgrds Rafal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 18:23:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0021065740; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from inyaoo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181478FC08; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so2871466pvg.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:23:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=oDm9lpGPhUsnFIlGh9OqNvxdCcOlYu8DUyLxb42pycI=; b=QifAFVmPccDrPBmfCDKEDK8ooa6xub2auhvcn/4RA88WnUaTRcrEQw0eX+d94hVFoJ nuJdKZOKBSprClpyWbNv6Sj6WzFaeBhQlVSUNAUy6TrtMYX8MjXSff4BEOXdXIFSRJZN zOa8cXfGI0s460Z7JoOZIlmXxi6OnT4G0G09E= Received: by 10.68.12.101 with SMTP id x5mr6257290pbb.267.1310322224517; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tor-exit-router41-readme.formlessnetworking.net [199.48.147.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x1sm7880502pbb.50.2011.07.10.11.23.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Pan Tsu To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> <20110710145044.GA94832@icarus.home.lan> <20110710172012.51fce47c@dijkstra> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:23:36 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20110710172012.51fce47c@dijkstra> (Christopher J. Ruwe's message of "Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:20:12 +0200") Message-ID: <86tyauc7vb.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:23:45 -0000 "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: [...] > /etc/rc.d/zvol > /etc/rc.d/zfs > /etc/rc.d/dumpon > /etc/rc.d/ddb > /etc/rc.d/initrandom > /etc/rc.d/geli > /etc/rc.d/gbde > /etc/rc.d/encswap > /etc/rc.d/ccd > /etc/rc.d/swap1 > /etc/rc.d/fsck > /etc/rc.d/root > /etc/rc.d/hostid_save > /etc/rc.d/mdconfig > /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal > > This makes sense to me and reflects the order I assumed in my > description. The question remains, however, if my configuration is of > any in {unusual, ..., stupid} as I require first zfs mount of /, then > GELI-unlock and then zfs mount of {/usr,/usr/local, ...}. Do you mount the root pool over smth else? Otherwise, root should be mounted by kernel before init(8) is started. And /etc/rc.d doesn't exist before root is mounted. I think the correct order is 0 vfs_mountroot* .. 2 rc.d/zvol (pre v28) .. 6 rc.d/geli .. 15 rc.d/mountcritlocal 16 rc.d/zfs where extra datasets from the root pool can be mounted via fstab at rc.d/mountcritlocal time. Not sure if you import geli pool during boot or not and leak its configuration via zpool.cache. > > Anyhow, thanks for setting me up on the proper usage of rcorder. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 19:18:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6E4106566B for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F2D8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:18:20 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oQVpKkgAgkUsYuH2+w5mGCLDTeNurCYMAd1g6sX67sg= c=1 sm=0 a=E8VKkjFcw0cA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3fyaaF4VAAAA:8 a=FP58Ms26AAAA:8 a=CYHx7dNkVoHcxE942RIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3YCZ8zUk7tkA:10 a=Y155h1DoS737AfrD/5xiRQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=FreeBSD@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=FreeBSD@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.user=FreeBSD; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 208.46.39.11 as permitted sender) Received: from [208.46.39.11] ([208.46.39.11:22587] helo=laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 82/3C-01590-BFAF91E4; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:18:19 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:18:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.6.5; i386; ; ) X-Face: 'CKH?$7Tmstol+2>#.#vG:vLzHB7#y&*vf9zUAuvboAg[stvjtqmvk0|3muH3SRC=jkCG] 3rWO]#<$z'k_J!bW}h1m\tg(Sjv}k^)&:2Y}qB, ]soJ@:0hn$8'ForyG\WR8lF*'2w(1Hn e+6I(C8N?(^qV9TK7bh"@%I?bf3-~2]IyzY{JA@nGnP8# MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201107101518.09974.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: KDE on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:18:21 -0000 The Newsflash page has a link to freebsd.kde.org, which has a broken link, http://freebsd.kde.org/contact.php I'm wondering if kaffeine has been abandoned, since there is a message in the kaffeine port Changes: 8 weeks arved Attempt to fix build Reported by: pointyhat Drop Maintainership I LOVE kaffeine, but it appears to have many user interface bugs, yet many advanced features. Is it simply that KDE4 development is delaying development of kaffeine, or did the kaffeine guy give up? I've submitted several bugs to KDE and I see them on kaffeine.sourceforge.net, but with someoe else's name (which I elieve means the kaffeine guy is still active, just overwhelmed). There are bugs there that go back to 2005 as unconfirmed. All the bugs marked as FreeBSD came from me. I'd love to help, if someone could help me find a JOB. In the US, virtualy no one runs FreeBSD, so I am unable to find a job, even with 34 years experience. I have been avoiding MicroSux WinBlows jobs. I would rather leave the profession than support that garbage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 19:21:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160DC1065670 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B461D8FC17 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.133) id 4E0B22C100813C80 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:21:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4E19FBC5.8040805@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:21:41 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1310269783.14697.12.camel@asus> <20110710090209.6e19ba0d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110710090209.6e19ba0d@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Portupgrade Package Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:21:43 -0000 On 10/07/2011 14:02, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:35:28 -0400 > b. f. articulated: > >> This is the tag that you would use on src collections to update your >> base system sources (usually in /usr/src) to 8-STABLE. You would use >> RELENG_8_2 for the 8.2-STABLE security branch, RELENG_8_2_RELEASE for >> 8.2-RELEASE, and so on. > > Reading through the archives, several years worth, it appears that this > is one of the most frequently asked questions. Many users, both new > (obviously) and some not so new get confused as to what is the proper > tag to use for each branch; ie "Stable" "Current", etc.Maybe there > should be some way to make it easier to understand. For example: I was one of them until I discovered that googling "FreeBSD tags" leads straight to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvs-tags.html Eg RELENG_8 The line of development for FreeBSD-8.X, also known as FreeBSD 8-STABLE RELENG_8_2 The release branch for FreeBSD-8.2, used only for security advisories and other critical fixes. ... RELENG_8_2_0_RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2 Release Chris > > 8.2-RELEASE: original release of code sans any updates, etc. > > 8.2-STABLE: released version plus security updates > > 8.2-CURRENT: All updates, security& otherwise to the original version > > ?-CURRENT: The absolute latest release of FreeBSD irregardless of what > version it is. > > Anyway, it is just a suggestion. In any case I think it might be easier > for some to comprehend. Anything that eliminates confusion is a plus. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 21:35:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168D9106566C for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BA88FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so4044330iwr.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:35:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cUgnH5KjfXQfIT3F7jV+LZTWG4pvDG9hxG9JHIzZSDU=; b=R3inJRnMYZlcJuKvKyYUqeGCeLDFgj4fJ2iiRz+KEaX+/SPVhCmSmlN/QFbJXjaeij HJq3Nukrwla1+Iy5VTzk+jAAo4oQI5kGYLlyeqYDDkxYUw2DE5hfD/7QiHtmSyOimsm/ KEQS5kxZGEfujixWaxlq0fNw49WerPNSvzU4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.135.71 with SMTP id if7mr4530455icc.365.1310333732467; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.48.194 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:35:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201107101518.09974.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201107101518.09974.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:35:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:35:33 -0000 > I'd love to help, if someone could help me find a JOB. =A0In the US, virt= ualy no > one runs FreeBSD, so I am unable to find a job, even with 34 years experi= ence. > _______________________________________________ Virtually, right? Maybe they do run FreeBSD on a virtual machine? There are no stats to back this up either way so we will be at a loss here :( > I have been avoiding MicroSux WinBlows jobs. I would rather leave the > profession than support that garbage. If you can have a computer shop/area for fixing computers fixing those MS machines would be the way to make money. I have a friend who is a computer technician and he is very happy with the "garbage" that you mention. He says that because there are many careless users and the "garbage" allows other "garbage"(virii, spyware, malware, etc) to come in; he has a job and a way to provide for his family. He can take his kids to mcdonalds and get them a happy meal take out his family to watch a movie. I tell him the same thing like you mention, but he says that fixing those machines that are out there is something that he has to do to at least make ends meet and no, it is not support from MS, it is a job to clean/wipe those machines to make them workable again :) support from M$ would be more money and I remember folks that get burned at the stake for getting a job from those guys :( Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 10 22:09:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C399F106566B; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 65-241-43-4.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EF1151D6D; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E1A22F9.6000305@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:08:57 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2pre OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pan Tsu Subject: Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:09:09 -0000 On 07/10/2011 07:05, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > $> rcorder /etc/rc.d/zfs You want to use: service -r -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 08:06:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36230106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hasanhasanli@mail.ru) Received: from fallback3.mail.ru (fallback3.mail.ru [94.100.176.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF20C8FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f223.mail.ru (f223.mail.ru [217.69.128.156]) by fallback3.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 8E2507981AC9 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:48:04 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Content-Type:Reply-To:Date:Mime-Version:Subject:To:From; bh=mQArYA5iYMZ/S70WAdkTkF26oDr5tQmtkNSr5Wxlis4=; b=Fx4/Q9ia6iKen3ek8Rq08zB2+rAbSYf2pyNMEd6YSQSCTHINCbfDYMSsFxXHaTvIMp1HrCHxsO+peZUCn0QWakKU1NqcIHcsfUK5uw5AoZXf5EqTQEcmPlLM/i9hxiij; Received: from mail by f223.mail.ru with local id 1QgBDm-0000wr-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:48:02 +0400 Received: from [85.132.24.46] by e.mail.ru with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:48:02 +0400 From: hasanhasanli Hasan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [85.132.24.46] Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:48:02 +0400 Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: buildworld from FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hasanhasanli Hasan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:06:23 -0000 CgpJIGhhZCBwcm9ibGVtIHdpdGggdXBncmF0aW5nIEZyZWVCU0QgOC4xIHRvIEZyZWVCU0QgOC4y CmFmdGVyIHRoYXQgSSB0eXBlZCAKbWFrZSBidWlsZHdvcmxkCkl0IGdpdmVzIGVycm9yLgovdXNy L2xpYi9saWJ0aHIuYSh0aHJfc3lzY2FsbHMubykoLnRleHQrMHg4N2EpOiBJbiBmdW5jdGlvbiBg X19fcHNlbGVjdCc6CjogdW5kZWZpbmVkIHJlZmVyZW5jZSB0byBgX19wc2VsZWN0JwoqKiogRXJy b3IgY29kZSAxIAoKU3RvcCBpbiAvdXNyL3NyYy9jZGRsL3Vzci5iaW4vY3RmY29udmVydC4KKioq IEVycm9yIGNvZGUgMSAKClN0b3AgaW4gL3Vzci9zcmMuCioqKiBFcnJvciBjb2RlIDEgCgpTdG9w IGluIC91c3Ivc3JjLgoqKiogRXJyb3IgY29kZSAxIAoKU3RvcCBpbiAvdXNyL3NyYy4K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 09:36:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998A2106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mubeeshalivm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6829E8FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so4460890iwr.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:36:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6bMaFvIX3n/CuVmigVgMWCKeNeHWTO821NyVs7EURqc=; b=wdbvUamnxx34BEWh6wcipKYckIukdpANRDdwnEjL6M7nndTguNJQhcoVyyhdDPRba7 G8Kw9AZpG4YkcbpfWJlshWa3r6HAv8Z/QLPFSED1dGoCmyWcxRGxkWbZKIbTWiM1ZChA RIGHtk7r3AKsz2l2LGxwCrkK5uYV0cjy31i0E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.134.200 with SMTP id id8mr5395788icc.246.1310376973747; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.223.9 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:36:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E174164.5030105@gmx.de> References: <4E174164.5030105@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:06:13 +0530 Message-ID: From: Mubeesh ali To: Lokadamus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mouse Problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:36:14 -0000 Thank You. It is working now. --=20 Best Regards, Mubeesh Ali.V.M On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Lokadamus wrote: > Put in your rc.conf this: > dbus_enable=3D"YES" > hald_enable=3D"YES" > > reboot your system or start it with: > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus start > > then your mouse and keybord should working. > > > > Am 07.07.2011 09:31, schrieb Mubeesh ali: >> >> Hi List, >> >> I have freebsd 8.2 installed on a windows host with virtualbox =A0and >> have xfce4. From sysinstall i was able to enable and move the mouse. >> But as soon as i do a startx it gets frozen(pointer is visible at >> center of the screen ) >> >> reebsd# cat /etc/rc.conf >> >> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Jul =A05 16:03:57 2011 >> # Created: Tue Jul =A05 16:03:57 2011 >> # Enable network daemons for user convenience. >> # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >> check_quotas=3D"NO" >> hostname=3D"Freebsd.merunetworks.com" >> ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" >> inetd_enable=3D"YES" >> ipv6_enable=3D"YES" >> keymap=3D"us.iso" >> moused_enable=3D"YES" >> moused_port=3D"/dev/psm0" >> moused_flags=3D"-z 4" >> moused_type=3D"auto" >> ntpdate_enable=3D"YES" >> ntpdate_hosts=3D"asia.pool.ntp.org" >> sshd_enable=3D"YES" >> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Jul =A06 11:35:07 2011 >> #moused_flags=3D"" >> #moused_port=3D"/dev/psm0" >> #moused_type=3D"microsoft" >> #moused_enable=3D"YES" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 10:20:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B778C1065673 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700C08FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.144] (helo=smtp13.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgDbX-0000IO-T9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:20:43 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp13.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgDbV-0006eU-AU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:20:41 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.112] (192.168.11.112) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 30A70B; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:21:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4E1ACE74.2040809@nagual.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:20:36 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QgDbV-0006eU-AU X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.253, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: ZFS on root backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:20:45 -0000 OK, so now my ZFS on root FreeBSD-8.2 system runs smoothly and I'm very happy being able to have ZFS (coming from solaris11), but.. what is the best strategy to back this fbsd system up. do I create various ZFS backup filesystem streams or can I easely backup the zroot pool as a whole? And if yes, how? Grateful for all the help I can get in these matters. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 10:59:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2DE106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D823C8FC14 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6BAxJnh088291 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:59:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p6BAxJnh088291 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1310381960; bh=aUGep4afokxITKNWum/TSH5SS6+Ahut8+mLo54W7rvg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E1AD77F.7050900@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2011=20Jul=202011=2011:59:11=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20ZFS=20on=20root=20backup|References :=20<4E1ACE74.2040809@nagual.nl>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E1ACE74.2040809@ nagual.nl>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Cont ent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20pro tocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------- -----enigE09801D484BDB438124DBDB6"; b=yasTOYibaL3X91oCQayqrkDTv/ej4OQ1QjZtouzD+8dSbDJCVj8Ct7XUaI3faPiFA vro/0/wrgQBEzjfez0SympsxWpHEJGmNkv5w2q04YDO7ZueYjT6U95irIzg6TDzrQa gh7K6aBFddmfnTXLuOtEEyyzEL7FOJvyLn5iwntE= Message-ID: <4E1AD77F.7050900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:59:11 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E1ACE74.2040809@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <4E1ACE74.2040809@nagual.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE09801D484BDB438124DBDB6" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: ZFS on root backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:59:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE09801D484BDB438124DBDB6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/07/2011 11:20, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > OK, so now my ZFS on root FreeBSD-8.2 system runs smoothly and I'm very= > happy being able to have ZFS (coming from solaris11), but.. what is the= > best strategy to back this fbsd system up. do I create various ZFS > backup filesystem streams or can I easely backup the zroot pool as a > whole? And if yes, how? > Grateful for all the help I can get in these matters. Well, the best backup strategy is a very site specific thing. There's no one-size-fits-all answer. Suppose your machine caught fire right now. You're always going to lose some data -- everything that changed since the last backup. How much data can you afford to lose like that? A day's worth? A week's worth? Absolutely none at all? Given your server is destroyed, how fast do you need to get it back? Can you wait for a week in order to source replacement kit? Or does every second of lost uptime cost you significant amounts of money? Now imagine the ultimate disaster scenario: typically something like -- a fully loaded jumbo jet crashes into your datacenter and everything is completely destroyed[*]. Will your backups survive? Can you rebuild your system using those backups? Suppose someone stole your backup media: can they extract all your data from them, and does it matter if they do? Those are the sorts of questions you need to think about when designing a backup system. There's nothing particularly specific about ZFS there. What ZFS does get you in terms of backups are two things: 1) Really easy and unlimited amounts of snap-shotting. As well as making it really simple to get a coherent point-in-time backup of an active filesystem, they also give you a really simple 'undo' type functionality, so you can unwind accidental deletions and other user mistakes. 2) ZFS import and export -- again, exploiting the snap-shotting capability, this makes it pretty easy to create a duplicate of your filesystem onto another host, and to update the duplicate in a very efficient way. Cheers, Matthew [*] As a number of companies found out to their cost, 'in the basement of the other tower' was not sufficiently off-site to be effective. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE09801D484BDB438124DBDB6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4a14cACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy0RACeNPCUR/9aqDUI6dhVRousPfny zvwAnR0A6Y/9c1amEriQ867KDsi+MlbD =BdG6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE09801D484BDB438124DBDB6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 12:12:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAB8106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515A68FC0C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so4634033iyb.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:12:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CHunCh1sBhaA7f9dlsw5MVPLYduCgqfGzfEhN6eE8Nc=; b=Fp4Lscgs7bVnMaMUZo2nU0G87GuP/CgUMISmuJHLlcmSQaq/NEgy58a4DJA+JjSJ9b 3XQSpDFzp2fLYqbuvgUOQqHaqM05gnYy1dTYAZe6dSnbQk/Fyv59xhx7PHkzLjPgICFK dodcDSm2VP4UtL2eTis/ZNr+/0rjKdnOFS4tw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.121.30 with SMTP id f30mr1291675ibr.109.1310386340664; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.10 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:12:20 +0400 Message-ID: From: Pavel Timofeev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: freebsd kernel and clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:12:21 -0000 Hello! I can't use freebsd CURRENT kernel that was compiled by clang. It prints "Unknown error: -512" Use of world compiled by clang is possible and causes no problem. But if I install kernel by clang it says "Unknow error: -512" in unexpected places: - while booting - while portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Mon Jul 11 11:16:53 MSK 2011 to Mon Jul 11 15:31:18 MSK 2011. Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. /usr/sbin/portsnap: cannot create patchlist: Unknown error: -512 Fetching 0 patches. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 5 new ports or files... done. Removing old files and directories... done. Extracting new files: /usr/ports/UPDATING files/c20b7b19d8d0b7ba779814a807cd4a54ad3d44c70e5974e589fc4b9a6912468b.gz not found -- snapshot corrupt. - while something else. This problem occurs only with kernel by clang. All is ok If I install kernel compiled by gcc. Maybe I do something wrong? P.S. Latest sources # cat /etc/make.conf # # CLANG .if !defined(CC) || ${CC} == "cc" CC=clang .endif .if !defined(CXX) || ${CXX} == "c++" CXX=clang++ .endif # Don't die on warnings NO_WERROR= WERROR= # Don't forget this when using Jails! NO_FSCHG= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 13:07:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC10106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3728A8FC1C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf7 with SMTP id 7so1833546ywf.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:07:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=dfe9JYC8nKI80TjRNAWK0Yxjhop+SGLCS5X0VpaAWhg=; b=g0O4h766wLIwtMsV9a2RJUSIwwnEZfdumH2LtE8bAUSI4wmjLaKgLTjB0pmWx4OLt4 1M5nBkAhpHlYTerHxR7ZTjQCUlK/vTyoNL1+rLkeDn2Z0NE7f/dXeBCzNzAAc0dfifQY JXqXuPC/6dl5/lIZS3BW4sEsjj02D/p7S03h8= Received: by 10.101.26.30 with SMTP id d30mr3728844anj.125.1310389660350; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.174.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm12376226ann.44.2011.07.11.06.07.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: hasanhasanli Hasan In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:07:32 -0300 Message-ID: <1310389652.89169.9.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld from FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:07:41 -0000 Em Seg, 2011-07-11 às 11:48 +0400, hasanhasanli Hasan escreveu: > > I had problem with upgrating FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 > after that I typed > make buildworld > It gives error. > /usr/lib/libthr.a(thr_syscalls.o)(.text+0x87a): In function `___pselect': > : undefined reference to `__pselect' > *** Error code 1 I use the following procedure: 1) build freebsd in a CLEAN machine (supose new bsd is 8.2)...: make buildworld buildkernel Please save the environment variables KERNCONF 2) copy /usr/src /usr/obj to the old (8.1, or even 7.x) bsd... in the same directory(/usr/srcj /usr/obj) rsync works fine... 3) in the new (the one you generate freebsd) machine.... rsync -avz --delete /usr/src/ root@oldmachine:/usr/src rsync -avz --delete /usr/obj/ root@oldmachine:/usr/obj 4) in the oldmachine..... cd /usr/src set KERNCONF make installworld installkernel 5) reboot.. FOR ME, it works... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 14:53:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474671065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0769F8FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so376347yxl.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CGwI8vhJjetAa78INxY7YaE/AbkU65hQ/XdoYt3juyI=; b=EOjSyketHbXJiHTmxZPeNzixPMSKGHvkOlXroHO4Qr4Ev/QDLCdbESWuVZlehpoBdY bTBZWpnjdaYOsfuOYNlOBRGX7tTl1eoYo8+CrkmN0EVZcFWZk57Lb/BjYPGMN4/+ZycA 5yufNbb9N3fJ/VgJpQOknf14VMp0w0ZBwLv28= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.183.135 with SMTP id q7mr5068704yhm.480.1310396013242; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.110.14 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1310389652.89169.9.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> References: <1310389652.89169.9.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:53:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: hasanhasanli Hasan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld from FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:53:34 -0000 On 11 July 2011 14:07, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrot= e: > Em Seg, 2011-07-11 =E0s 11:48 +0400, hasanhasanli Hasan escreveu: > > > > > I had problem with upgrating FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 > > after that I typed > > make buildworld > > It gives error. > > /usr/lib/libthr.a(thr_syscalls.o)(.text+0x87a): In function `___pselect= ': > > : undefined reference to `__pselect' > > *** Error code 1 > > I use the following procedure: > 1) build freebsd in a CLEAN machine (supose new bsd is 8.2)...: > make buildworld buildkernel > Please save the environment variables KERNCONF > > 2) copy /usr/src /usr/obj to the old (8.1, or even 7.x) bsd... in the > same directory(/usr/srcj /usr/obj) rsync works fine... > 3) in the new (the one you generate freebsd) machine.... > rsync -avz --delete /usr/src/ root@oldmachine:/usr/src > rsync -avz --delete /usr/obj/ root@oldmachine:/usr/obj > 4) in the oldmachine..... > cd /usr/src > set KERNCONF > make installworld installkernel > 5) reboot.. > > FOR ME, it works... > > Sergio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > world should be done after the kernel and there should be a reboot inbetwee= n the two as well. Also what about mergemaster? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 15:10:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AADE106566B for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EB58FC13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10364 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2011 15:10:26 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Jul 2011 15:10:26 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486315C60; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EDB1239846; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:10:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: krad References: <1310389652.89169.9.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:10:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (krad's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:53:33 +0100") Message-ID: <44ei1wlup0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: hasanhasanli Hasan , Sergio de Almeida Lenzi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld from FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:10:27 -0000 krad writes: > On 11 July 2011 14:07, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wr= ote: > >> Em Seg, 2011-07-11 =E0s 11:48 +0400, hasanhasanli Hasan escreveu: >> >> > >> > I had problem with upgrating FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 >> > after that I typed >> > make buildworld >> > It gives error. >> > /usr/lib/libthr.a(thr_syscalls.o)(.text+0x87a): In function `___pselec= t': >> > : undefined reference to `__pselect' >> > *** Error code 1 >> >> I use the following procedure: >> 1) build freebsd in a CLEAN machine (supose new bsd is 8.2)...: >> make buildworld buildkernel >> Please save the environment variables KERNCONF >> >> 2) copy /usr/src /usr/obj to the old (8.1, or even 7.x) bsd... in the >> same directory(/usr/srcj /usr/obj) rsync works fine... >> 3) in the new (the one you generate freebsd) machine.... >> rsync -avz --delete /usr/src/ root@oldmachine:/usr/src >> rsync -avz --delete /usr/obj/ root@oldmachine:/usr/obj >> 4) in the oldmachine..... >> cd /usr/src >> set KERNCONF >> make installworld installkernel >> 5) reboot.. >> >> FOR ME, it works... >> >> Sergio > > world should be done after the kernel and there should be a reboot inbetw= een > the two as well. Also what about mergemaster? No, buildworld is before kernel so that the kernel is built with the new to= olchain. Mergemaster is definitely needed as part of the process, but won't have produced this particular failure. The two-machine system is unnecessarily complicated for most users. We really need to know what the original poster's procedure was. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 15:23:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C18106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706318FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38so2594303qyk.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:23:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.45.1 with SMTP id c1mr3553163qcf.259.1310396367677; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.241.206 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:59:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:23:43 -0000 Sorry for the naive question, but most of my old rulesets still use natd, and I've only used built-in nat for outbound traffic. I'd like to redirect certain ports on certain addresses to the same ports on internal (RFC1918) addresses. The examples in the man page aren't helpful, and the handbook still seems very natd-centric in its examples. Thanks in advance. - Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 16:01:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E661106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589AC8FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so4896057iyb.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rpf6y8FEGW3aQ17PFrFph6kUjOF855gpDS7dhF5V5i0=; b=aK93OzJRUqIXKZlUYGnk0MY3UXxDVuYUb/ukS9ocWBeWW9JarmzkPvIS8Z8sqfNyhS eROG+Pc9mnHTEZM+PcvM5asKztQjIcJTL0uWGCKebFmPECs/DU6G7leljOkPign7UqDq jcLrLebuaWZDW7rTd6SVKHrINJMqE5BYdTNM0= Received: by 10.42.108.9 with SMTP id f9mr4814309icp.358.1310400071399; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-201-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net [98.212.201.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2sm5428885ibd.5.2011.07.11.09.01.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E1B1E46.8020600@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:01:10 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E1ACE74.2040809@nagual.nl> <4E1AD77F.7050900@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E1AD77F.7050900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ZFS on root backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:01:12 -0000 On 7/11/2011 5:59 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 11/07/2011 11:20, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> OK, so now my ZFS on root FreeBSD-8.2 system runs smoothly and I'm very >> happy being able to have ZFS (coming from solaris11), but.. what is the >> best strategy to back this fbsd system up. do I create various ZFS >> backup filesystem streams or can I easely backup the zroot pool as a >> whole? And if yes, how? >> Grateful for all the help I can get in these matters. > >[...] > > What ZFS does get you in terms of backups are two things: > > 1) Really easy and unlimited amounts of snap-shotting. As well as > making it really simple to get a coherent point-in-time backup of > an active filesystem, they also give you a really simple 'undo' > type functionality, so you can unwind accidental deletions and > other user mistakes. > > 2) ZFS import and export -- again, exploiting the snap-shotting > capability, this makes it pretty easy to create a duplicate of > your filesystem onto another host, and to update the duplicate in > a very efficient way. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] As a number of companies found out to their cost, 'in the basement > of the other tower' was not sufficiently off-site to be effective. > I recently just converted my system from raid0 to raid1, using zfs, and because of mountpoints and other quirks you could end up having trouble with zfs send and receive. If you're planning on backing up the whole pool, then using a backup drive, and virtualbox with the disk image on the backup drive to backup the pool might be easiest after you get networking working. If you're not concerned about the whole pool, just just create filesystems for what you want to save and use those. You could just use the zfs send command and not recreate the filesystem, but it's not recommended until if and when the data stream is standardized. It'll work until Oracle breaks it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 16:15:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC4E1065670 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DE18FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C9A1D98A; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:15:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6BGF0YF001561; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:15:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:15:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: krad Message-Id: <20110711181500.3bf479b7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1310389652.89169.9.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld from FreeBSD 8.1 to FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:15:04 -0000 On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:53:33 +0100, krad wrote: > world should be done after the kernel and there should be a reboot inbetween > the two as well. Also what about mergemaster? There's a nice summary of steps in the comment section of /usr/src/Makefile. # For individuals wanting to upgrade their sources (even if only a # delta of a few days): # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) # # See src/UPDATING `COMMON ITEMS' for more complete information. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 16:49:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2563106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D17C8FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2011 16:49:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2011 16:49:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2011 16:49:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 509801.14519.bm@omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78290 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jul 2011 16:49:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1310402992; bh=22xihVZ5QGpIeH5ZbEobD6ehqWjptM1xepWqwaf0I3I=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LC9hHoQ+J8Dbf5QsVRcEz42rqcihaxxKOKJ3uMfRAEvsIyYuKRg2Tm+fgbeD0AYack+rvVDOL7xgpXTNFbBc5nADFNBle/FJkAb1mynv06d3fya/yH70X+XDDnsuztbrnPjtP1IipWPrWlSV2nonAS+Gk7dMNyBSTSSNcEecjDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cTXsREjAlqhrdxwV9C/UFlhh01kiihNx3SsFyrj684sjDaGcJAV8ZXlakpx2B4RBuP7tiFHJPu/tYbJ+puunm6sO1bYEsw69zYNbQ2/vQAN4R8fg4xFcMbW0InyzM33KTc6YB8ILcsjiC4DqZR4EIRjkFTrdZ9HcWWi9VIQ1za0=; X-YMail-OSG: sA3ALm8VM1muSYrMTy_Ykop5Cp0O53JC_XZ3NzhS5Lr_DS9 .VeydRdhLx_zp8PggP0efqNfDzbILcSROVaZMAc78vwzAl8tRIsDi8LG241X oPHpW2RnQXgm_6z9u0MDaunxj.FmXeeIgQUt6JcczjCqjdhPrPAVb0.nICpR R6sfKBvSk3st46pT4LXhXPdXhR__UZ0_Wl_jvZlkZ_4MiprgPUlGLdv3XQAp 5do2YYpft.fpT8TlNAnME5VPs6W3xPvO5lfeCTMphaqims_md8QZQZ7V6iu8 3R6qrynmIyG0VpWOSJKjlH4tehNhlboQsGuu1fSZxKgma7DUXjh4B3agpFby loyctVXYfyfw.CBUgQ9Lpxf3_XUhpVfWClozIQ0Dfx1habjnfWqlc9.5Q Received: from [112.134.96.136] by web160114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:49:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1310402991.9928.YahooMailClassic@web160114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:49:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:59:33 +0000 Subject: Transparent load balancing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:49:53 -0000 Hi all I need to implement a transparent load balancing daemon in C. That is, the daemon accept a TCP connection, get more info from the client, and forward the communication transparently to another server to handle it. How this could be implemented on FreeBSD? What basic primitives I should study more? Many thanks in advance. Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 17:07:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7301065673 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519368FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BH7XrM031207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:07:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6BH7WFT031921 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:07:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p6BH7VbB031920; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:07:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:07:31 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Michael Sierchio Message-ID: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:07:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:07:39 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 11), Michael Sierchio said: > Sorry for the naive question, but most of my old rulesets still use > natd, and I've only used built-in nat for outbound traffic. I'd like > to redirect certain ports on certain addresses to the same ports on > internal (RFC1918) addresses. The examples in the man page aren't > helpful, and the handbook still seems very natd-centric in its > examples. Thanks in advance. I use this at the top of my /etc/ipfw.conf file (re0.2 is the interface corresponding to my internet connection) : nat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 22 add nat 123 ip from any to any via re0.2 , which redirects incoming port 22 connections to 10.0.0.3. If you want to redirect more ports, add more "redirect_port tcp host:port port" expressions to the end of your nat line. I believe you can run the nat config command manually with a new list (as in "ipfw nat 123 ...") to add/remove entries dynamically. I'm not at home to try it, and don't want to risk losing my remote connection if I mess up :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 17:44:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A52F106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EAF8FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:44:08 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-18.01 64bit (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LO6009WRJX4FU70@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:43:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-11_03:2011-07-11, 2011-07-11, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107110147 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <1310402991.9928.YahooMailClassic@web160114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:43:51 -0700 Message-id: References: <1310402991.9928.YahooMailClassic@web160114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Unga X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transparent load balancing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:44:09 -0000 On Jul 11, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Unga wrote: > I need to implement a transparent load balancing daemon in C. > > That is, the daemon accept a TCP connection, get more info from the client, and forward the communication transparently to another server to handle it. > > How this could be implemented on FreeBSD? What basic primitives I should study more? You can use redirect_address in natd to accomplish simple round-robin load-balancing, ie: -redirect_address localIP[,localIP[,...]] publicIP These forms of -redirect_port and -redirect_address are used to transparently offload network load on a single server and distribute the load across a pool of servers. This function is known as LSNAT (RFC 2391). For example, the argument tcp www1:http,www2:http,www3:http www:http means that incoming HTTP requests for host www will be trans- parently redirected to one of the www1, www2 or www3, where a host is selected simply on a round-robin basis, without regard to load on the net. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 17:47:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2103B1065676; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBA48FC13; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3121CC0B; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1C9921CC08; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p57BDFF08.dip.t-dialin.net [87.189.255.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E17691CBFB; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:07 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: Pan Tsu Message-ID: <20110711194707.48812c43@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <86tyauc7vb.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> <20110710145044.GA94832@icarus.home.lan> <20110710172012.51fce47c@dijkstra> <86tyauc7vb.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/Pwder25aXRME1k3orx/=e2r"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:47:20 -0000 --Sig_/Pwder25aXRME1k3orx/=e2r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:23:36 +0400 Pan Tsu wrote: > "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: >=20 > [...] > > /etc/rc.d/zvol > > /etc/rc.d/zfs > > /etc/rc.d/dumpon > > /etc/rc.d/ddb > > /etc/rc.d/initrandom > > /etc/rc.d/geli > > /etc/rc.d/gbde > > /etc/rc.d/encswap > > /etc/rc.d/ccd > > /etc/rc.d/swap1 > > /etc/rc.d/fsck > > /etc/rc.d/root > > /etc/rc.d/hostid_save > > /etc/rc.d/mdconfig > > /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal > > > > This makes sense to me and reflects the order I assumed in my > > description. The question remains, however, if my configuration is > > of any in {unusual, ..., stupid} as I require first zfs mount of /, > > then GELI-unlock and then zfs mount of {/usr,/usr/local, ...}. >=20 > Do you mount the root pool over smth else? Otherwise, root should be > mounted by kernel before init(8) is started. And /etc/rc.d doesn't > exist before root is mounted. I mount root-pool via=20 zfs_load=3D"YES" vfs.root.mountfrom=3D"zfs:rpool/root" in /boot/loader.conf. So far, all is right from what I understand. =20 > I think the correct order is >=20 > 0 vfs_mountroot* > .. > 2 rc.d/zvol (pre v28) > .. > 6 rc.d/geli > .. > 15 rc.d/mountcritlocal > 16 rc.d/zfs >=20 > where extra datasets from the root pool can be mounted via fstab at > rc.d/mountcritlocal time. Not sure if you import geli pool during boot > or not and leak its configuration via zpool.cache. In this setup, I should not have any problems. However, I do not realize (a= nd very much doubt) that I changed anything in the order of the services (l= acking the capability to deterministically do so, anyway). =46rom rcorder I understand that all that is required to set rcorder right wo= uld be to change /etc/rc.d/zfs to include a REQUIRE: geli, so that my geli-= encrypted volume would be unlocked before all zfs-datasets are mounted? If so, what could be the reason that my rcorder-setup deviates from the sta= ndard and how could I coerce it back to standard? Thank you for your help so far, cheers --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 --Sig_/Pwder25aXRME1k3orx/=e2r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOGzchAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUgZwP/jSZ68Bk4xCaxGcsM9+t6TCe 8fUcUqrrxWqpq0QbYd8J5XpKP1GMYtCEqZ9xlg04ycmnQidN8bHiYkADx26cWQbU SoFf9DoPLDSF+8ADC+5VMjHNauq40bErhjAlFQRFsjKrJrueceg/5eD+MCWFT0mn UUwdM7NM/s2rqxKb9VchWeElplBJi+Sl44RIT7R528p6H2/ek9avJOkwwvzfpglI aRIIhxfA7Wmj7DGDh+rClTyKA4DcCMFNXQiA8t7oNkpeMJkWeDOeBmoJcfa0YELl oKTRAoU8PKQLG02H5oxZEamWl08IL8kCC3IaGoPN8gSRBjaZATzJi4QjyFPfz7i3 GcqWqUou8H53vsbUhJRqYBHsVlzS41W1kA4nXkyVitDOVDKVp56tHN6DYkdUgPwe p7F1DqqEMxJ6oBk6RbTIq6bh1ognmKv6vz5+H1HjKPwIDvI+grbTwy1ensrCN281 IaTq0R86g7YumN3//EwOvrFjpmqBFc/T9/XFiTjhRlm1ieMA2iczZ+WcNn6a8NL5 RbjIzKoCGauDNUiEEFFB5sm1KCshXGrl6LaCKbL6MX+3g/L7t8SCQcJVwEZPtagg LM46awwsQjUNPcIISwmEE63HUiLZ6OptIJ2cWbfJ0iH//m2dDUGdzBQIIVdfJhxu LNSNGE67P7FYRe+K5iKR =y8+j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Pwder25aXRME1k3orx/=e2r-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 17:56:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25822106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from mail.mroute.net (lax-gw06.mailroute.net [199.89.0.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9638FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw06.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45D0C5E1; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:56:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw06.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150CAC5DE; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:55:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F40F92E2A; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Matthew Seaman References: <4E1ACE74.2040809@nagual.nl> <4E1AD77F.7050900@infracaninophile.co.uk> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.9.11; tzolkin = 8 Chuen; haab = 19 Tzec Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:55:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4E1AD77F.7050900@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:59:11 +0100") Message-ID: <86box0og5w.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS on root backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:56:23 -0000 >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: Matthew> 1) Really easy and unlimited amounts of snap-shotting. As well as Matthew> making it really simple to get a coherent point-in-time backup of Matthew> an active filesystem, they also give you a really simple 'undo' Matthew> type functionality, so you can unwind accidental deletions and Matthew> other user mistakes. And with zxfer (in ports), very simple means to transfer those snapshots to another location. I'm using that now on multiple machines, and it's nearly flawless. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 19:23:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6B7106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne.mitchell.iz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055338FC19 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe6 with SMTP id 6so3517894fxe.17 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cTFe2ynk4FDGSE0fQRppR4SGUYElQURYLTS5LRCs4/I=; b=FyoNCcppYyq6OaMsEuK8qcLtiMIXzzoZYQS6fnihF6qKAwY68k3q7IsRMKD0KOxhhH kF8h7gjKjLKrhC1fHSZ1Q/6qswmIj2GW1UCImxcPWB5FESRnoUqDboOvFiDgMmVhwYTj 4PiZ91UaOFeDbPnx9QYSpFpCeHflD1Vf3ytE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.145.22 with SMTP id b22mr8375718fav.95.1310412186835; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.86.197 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:23:06 +0000 Message-ID: From: wayne mitchell To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: amd64 lib path locations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:23:08 -0000 hey, got a problem with an amd64 system and lib-object locations - see below: problem: installing of 'rosegarden' -------- installing is fine (from package - not port) starting rosegarden from gui menu - nothing happens executing rosegarden from CLI returns error: [ /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object "libQt3Support.so.4" not found, required by "rosegarden" ] using 'find' to find the required object shows that it is on the system at: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQt3Support.so.4 however: -------- i have compared this installation and setup to a desktop machine with same setup and rosegarden works fine with that - details further on system detail 1: -------------- (laptop - rosegarden not working) freeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 - GENERIC kernel on an intel core 2 duo cpu - laptop using gnome2 separate slices for HDD: (IDE 60Gb) 1: swap 2: /var 3: / 4: /usr (environment MACHTYPE is set to 'unknown') system detail 2: ---------------- (desktop - rosegarden works fine) freeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 - GENERIC kernel on an intel p4 cpu using gnome2 separate slices for HDD: (SATA 250Gb) 1: swap 2: /var 3: / 4: /usr (environment MACHTYPE is set to 'i386') so: --- you can see that the two systems are as similar as can be both are fresh installations (official DVD dist.), with exact matching installed packages when making a search for the missing object: (libQt3Support.so.4) it shows up in the same location on both machines: /usr/local/lib/qt4/... my guess: --------- 1. could be anything 2. i have no way of telling 'where' the '/libexec/lib-elf.so.1' object is looking for the missing 'Qt3' opbject 3. i prefer to use packages rather than ports, so i cannot check the source code of the port for rosegarden or lib-elf.so.1 4. i have limited knowledge of the bsd system and so do not know where to start looking or how 5. i suppose it could be a simple case of one missing symlink 6. or an environment variable (see MACHTYPE above) 7. i did at first consider that i had the wrong architecture system installed on the core 2 laptop (freeBSD distribution HARDWARE.HTM shows that amd64 system supports intel core 2 - not core duo) i have no extensive technical knowledge and all i know is that the 'sticker' on the laptop says 'core 2 duo' - which confuses me ( is it core 2, or core duo..?) have tried installing i386 system, which worked to a point, console seems okay but gnome2 trips up - hangs with no obvious errors reported to console - so this caused me to revert bcak to amd64 system and now gnome works fine other than this problem with lib-elf & rosegarden 8. both hard drives are sliced the same way (slice order and mount points) - only difference is bus I/O type and size (IDE vs. SATA) 9. it could be the architecture distribution (amd64) late addition: -------------- just tried the same thing with a desktop amd64 setup - exact same characteristics as the laptop above From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 19:29:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1537D106566C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21328FC1A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:29:09 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LO600BC7OS7E160@asmtp026.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:28:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-11_06:2011-07-11, 2011-07-11, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107110174 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:28:55 -0700 Message-id: References: To: wayne mitchell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 lib path locations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:29:10 -0000 On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:23 PM, wayne mitchell wrote: > installing is fine (from package - not port) > starting rosegarden from gui menu - nothing happens > executing rosegarden from CLI returns error: > [ /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object "libQt3Support.so.4" not found, > required by "rosegarden" ] > > using 'find' to find the required object shows that it is on the system at: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQt3Support.so.4 It's likely that setting $LD_LIBRARY_PATH to list /usr/local/lib/qt4, or running "ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/qt4" will help... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 19:32:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E61106564A; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arved@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gazoz.arved.priv.at (cl-1383.ham-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:6f8:900:566::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A158FC14; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inek.arved.priv.at (inek-gif0.arved.priv.at [IPv6:2001:6f8:13fb::2]) by gazoz.arved.priv.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BJWAwN041591; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:32:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arved@FreeBSD.org) Received: from elma.arved.priv.at (elma.arved.priv.at [IPv6:2001:6f8:13fb:3:21b:63ff:fe04:1687] (may be forged)) by inek.arved.priv.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BJW4Ad048198; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:32:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arved@FreeBSD.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tilman_Keskin=F6z?= In-Reply-To: <201107101518.09974.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:32:03 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <629157F8-9FB1-46D6-BCC3-01EACEAED4C5@FreeBSD.org> References: <201107101518.09974.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> To: Steven Friedrich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: KDE on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:32:13 -0000 On Jul 10, 2011, at 21:18 , Steven Friedrich wrote: > I'm wondering if kaffeine has been abandoned, since there is a message = in the=20 > kaffeine port >=20 > Changes: > 8 weeks arved Attempt to fix build Reported by: pointyhat Drop=20= > Maintainership=20 >=20 I just resetted maintainership, because i don't have enough time for it. I expected someone else to pick it up, but so far this has not happened. > I LOVE kaffeine, but it appears to have many user interface bugs, yet = many=20 > advanced features. Is it simply that KDE4 development is delaying = development=20 > of kaffeine, or did the kaffeine guy give up? The kaffeine guy seems to be a bit busy, there is not much traffic on = the kaffeine mailinglist. But it is not abandonware. > I've submitted several bugs to KDE and I see them on = kaffeine.sourceforge.net,=20 > but with someoe else's name (which I elieve means the kaffeine guy is = still=20 > active, just overwhelmed). There are bugs there that go back to 2005 = as=20 > unconfirmed. All the bugs marked as FreeBSD came from me. Did you also submit a patches? If there are patches i can probably test and commit them. regards arved= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 20:16:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F553106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526998FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 73917E806F9; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:16:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110711201556.GA13136@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Gary Kline Subject: what is causing this warning in /var/log/messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:16:03 -0000 Guys, Thanks to Matthew Seaman, my named.conf is that much closer to being set up correctly that I finally reinstalled dns/bind98; the _but_ is that the following log entry winds up in my messages log. I've googled until my fingers are falling off: no resolution. Yes, named runs and stuff more/less works. Can anybody clue me in on how to get rid of the following? Jul 11 13:00:25 ethic named[40109]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/internal: loading from master file 3bed2cb3a3acf7b6a8ef408420cc682d5520e26976d354254f528c965612054f.mkeys failed: file not found TIA for any help here, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 20:26:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3591065670; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from inyaoo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54518FC0A; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so4126073vws.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:26:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=5qLLH/Rm1o9HStENz63mjEvCQMBRKbVtJK82xhX3dGY=; b=KLKhUDsMkNhEkhvyGsOO66Eni6x1ILQS3cKbK2UOa8uLG/OeY80gJCClgGJv1fykmB vmwtG6j+bTBNEcMRoxS9whCHYc3VQ9zb5KuMnj4z6MP4xJ69PA/v7fr8etzpHvp13hBx rIdsjBJckdA6IpQy5+CaoDVsS/l8Hcb4TCprY= Received: by 10.52.88.76 with SMTP id be12mr2870606vdb.366.1310415961948; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpftor6.privacyfoundation.de [62.212.67.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh17sm4683381vdc.3.2011.07.11.13.25.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Pan Tsu To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" References: <20110710142617.1d80289b@dijkstra> <86mxgmjooc.fsf@gmail.com> <20110710160504.0d4bf4c0@dijkstra> <20110710145044.GA94832@icarus.home.lan> <20110710172012.51fce47c@dijkstra> <86tyauc7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <20110711194707.48812c43@dijkstra> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:25:38 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20110711194707.48812c43@dijkstra> (Christopher J. Ruwe's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:07 +0200") Message-ID: <86r55wd0ot.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zpool-zfs'es on a GELI-encrypted volume are not mounted at boot [patch included] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:26:03 -0000 "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: [...] > In this setup, I should not have any problems. However, I do not > realize (and very much doubt) that I changed anything in the order of > the services (lacking the capability to deterministically do so, > anyway). > > From rcorder I understand that all that is required to set rcorder > right would be to change /etc/rc.d/zfs to include a REQUIRE: geli, so > that my geli-encrypted volume would be unlocked before all > zfs-datasets are mounted? Yep, or revert to default where rc.d/zfs depends on rc.d/mountcritlocal. $ svn co -qr223699 svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/8/etc/rc.d $ rcorder rc.d/* | nl | sed /zfs/q 1 rc.d/hostid 2 rc.d/zvol 3 rc.d/dumpon 4 rc.d/ddb 5 rc.d/initrandom 6 rc.d/geli 7 rc.d/gbde 8 rc.d/encswap 9 rc.d/ccd 10 rc.d/swap1 11 rc.d/fsck 12 rc.d/root 13 rc.d/hostid_save 14 rc.d/mdconfig 15 rc.d/mountcritlocal 16 rc.d/zfs > > If so, what could be the reason that my rcorder-setup deviates from > the standard and how could I coerce it back to standard? No idea. Try basic check with $ diff -ur /usr/src/etc/rc.d /etc/rc.d $ mergemaster $ mergemaster -s unless someone else can reproduce your issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 20:33:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C251065673; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacombar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BF18FC08; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pv0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 11so4131929pvg.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:33:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mq7Mrsqv9qxK21E7XSuDNvD3yGUqI9tFAUpyr4uVwaM=; b=tlhim085MzZk+lROy+yRx5jfIwY3SGsCOVX1o6lf9pOfA9LJYloQPw4PkcBtbA5m1Q JsQtTeJt5r+WOsGjfsr+ADYAl/dIWyMGk4RPxQ/8MtBohm2HR9vBcQ2Q0ym66V0MXH34 PIp9WtHJvCa/fgP0OfxhYO4M27UHd9o+9bk4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.48.68 with SMTP id j4mr7029305pbn.407.1310416424624; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.49.42 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:33:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E1421D9.7080808@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E147F54.40908@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110706162811.GA68436@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20110706193636.GA69550@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4E14CCE5.4050906@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110707015151.GB71966@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:33:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Lacombe To: Adrian Chadd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:52:03 +0000 Cc: FreeBSD Current , "Hartmann, O." , arrowdodger <6yearold@gmail.com>, Steve Kargl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heavy I/O blocks FreeBSD box for several seconds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:33:45 -0000 Hi, On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > (OT, yes, but I'd like to take a stab at explaining "why" these things > fall to the wayside..) > > On 7 July 2011 12:08, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > >> What would be the point to even start looking at an issue? You guys >> (by "you", I mean "official" committers on public list) don't care > > When someone who has an active interest takes ownership of the problem. > >> about people providing patches, might it be for trivial, obvious, >> fixes. I'm not even talking about complex patches ... When you >> eventually ends up providing a patch, you ends up being slammed a door >> at by maintainers asserting their code is perfect, until logic and >> user complaints prove them wrong. >> >> That said, this comment is off-topic, but I will certainly re-state >> this next month when I'll be ping'ing trivial patches. > > The problem is that someone doesn't own the problem. > > If I commit someone's fix to the tree without really understanding > what's going on, I take ownership of that change and any > issues/breakages/changes that it creates. > > The people responsible for these areas are likely very busy with other > things. It's not that they don't want to help! It's much more likely > that they don't have the time. > > Trivial patches aren't always so trivial. You can change the behaviour > of something subtle which works great for you and not for others. This > is very likely what's going on with IO/CPU scheduling. It's a tricky > area. A simple fix isn't always as simple. > > So if there's a diagnosed problem, with reproducable test cases and > some patches which fix it, I suggest doing something like the > following: > > * create a webpage, even if it's a wiki somewhere (even > wiki.freebsd.org if you ask someone nicely) > * dump all the information you can in there. Having stuff in emails is > great - but it's only really helpful for tracking the 'flow' of a > discussion. Having a summarised analysis of all of that on a webpage > is much more helpful. > * Add the patches there. > * Encourage people who aren't in your immediate community to try them > too - to try and find if your changes mess up other configurations > somehow. > * Be persistent trying to get your changes in. If you've done the > background research, done some wide-spread testing and show you've not > caused any obvious regressions, you're much more likely to get your > changes in. > For the record, I would like to see enforced public review for _every_ patch *before* it is checked in, as a strong rule. gcc system is particularly interesting. But it is not likely to happen in FreeBSD where FreeBSD committers are clearly more free than other at checking-in un-publicly-reviewed stuff (especially _bad_ stuff). This would of course apply even to long-time committers, no matter how it hurt their ego (which I definitively do not care about). - Arnaud > With all of that done, you can likely find a committer who will help > you get your fixes into the tree. > > Please just try not to interpret a lack of response as a lack of > interest. There's only so much time in the day and committers tend to > be a busy bunch, with day jobs that may in no way reflect their > FreeBSD interests. > > Finally, if people do enough of the above and begin to take ownership > of parts of the tree, you'll find someone will likely sponsor you for > a commit bit. > > HTH, > > > Adrian > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 20:59:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7800106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech@dracoquies.us) Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8948FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6keo1h00B0vp7WLAFkmJeK; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:46:18 +0000 Received: from chon.dracoquies.us ([76.113.10.65]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6kmK1h0151QBs3Q8RkmL72; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:46:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=[192.168.101.35]) by chon.dracoquies.us with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QgNMx-0004nv-1C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:46:19 -0600 Message-ID: <4E1B6117.4050809@dracoquies.us> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:46:15 -0600 From: Sam George User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41EDF508-557C-4582-9E2C-0179BA3FDB7E@gmail.com> <4E159E45.6010204@mullet.se> In-Reply-To: <4E159E45.6010204@mullet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LSI MegaRAID 9260 on FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:59:30 -0000 On 7/7/2011 05:53, Martin Nilsson wrote: > On 2011-07-04 03.20, Sam Vaughan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I want to use an LSI MegaRAID 9260 on FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 using mfi and >> I have two quick questions: >> >> LSI's MegaRaid SAS documentation [1] states that "Currently, the >> FreeBSD driver is supported only on 32-bit FreeBSD". On the other hand >> the FreeBSD 8.2 hardware compatibility page [2] states that the mfi >> driver supports the MegaRaid 9260 in all three of the i386, ia64, >> amd64 ports. >> >> Is LSI's documentation simply out of date or is there some issue with >> the mfi driver on amd64? (I joined the list recently so I missed the original message.) I have an LSI 9260 with FreeBSD8.2 on a Xeon system (amd64). It seems to work ok. But it does come up griping about commands timing out occasionally. See this other post of someone else who has the same issue: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/mfi-4-command-timeout-loop-on-boot-on-releng-8-2-tt3963874.html#none I don't know what's going on, but except for the error, it /seems/ to be working. I can still access the array. And eventually it stops complaining. I need to do more testing though before I'll really be satisfied that it's ok. -Sam George > There are two different diverged mfi drivers! > One that comes with FreeBSD and works well with the 9260 cards both > under i386 and amd64. > > Then we have the LSI driver, this one works under i386 and some versions > also works under amd64 but the latest one on LSI:s web is i386 only. The > current LSI driver supports the 9240 budget cards "skinny" and also the > new fast 9265/9285 cards "Thunderbolt" these are not supported by the > FreeBSD driver. > > /Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 20:40:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F021065672; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8BC8FC12; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BKenYF099021; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6BKenuY099020; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:40:49 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Arnaud Lacombe Message-ID: <20110711204049.GA98996@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20110706162811.GA68436@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20110706193636.GA69550@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4E14CCE5.4050906@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110707015151.GB71966@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:02:43 +0000 Cc: Adrian Chadd , FreeBSD Current , "Hartmann, O." , arrowdodger <6yearold@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heavy I/O blocks FreeBSD box for several seconds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:49 -0000 On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 04:33:44PM -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > > For the record, I would like to see enforced public review for _every_ > patch *before* it is checked in, as a strong rule. gcc system is > particularly interesting. But it is not likely to happen in FreeBSD > where FreeBSD committers are clearly more free than other at > checking-in un-publicly-reviewed stuff (especially _bad_ stuff). > > This would of course apply even to long-time committers, no matter how > it hurt their ego (which I definitively do not care about). > As a long time GCC committer, I think that you have grossly over-simplified the GCC review process and how a submitted patch is approved for committing. -- Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 21:38:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC3A1065672; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacombar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A568FC0C; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so4204249pvg.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6RcsUVCy9rUjpK8kfpOXi6pH8A4mZF85yKApD3bR6l4=; b=eTi2eXGWAAVpS6h60SO1VgCHXdGN2eJ309w+UZbbCghpULn6heWZBkkwkkA7G+pXjZ h9DMXTTjGvJqrBbbs/cFI2B2UVUT7vx8APRkNwmsfurUAfSLGrNCoXfboP1XkKpEh3Hp U4iAVlMCWYBoLXuhJHf0MQjlVzFzSuAmxk27Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.32.165 with SMTP id k5mr7923900pbi.273.1310420301441; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.49.42 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110711204049.GA98996@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20110706162811.GA68436@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20110706193636.GA69550@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4E14CCE5.4050906@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110707015151.GB71966@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20110711204049.GA98996@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:38:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Lacombe To: Steve Kargl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:48:47 +0000 Cc: Adrian Chadd , FreeBSD Current , "Hartmann, O." , arrowdodger <6yearold@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heavy I/O blocks FreeBSD box for several seconds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:38:22 -0000 Hi, On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 04:33:44PM -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >> >> For the record, I would like to see enforced public review for _every_ >> patch *before* it is checked in, as a strong rule. gcc system is >> particularly interesting. But it is not likely to happen in FreeBSD >> where FreeBSD committers are clearly more free than other at >> checking-in un-publicly-reviewed stuff (especially _bad_ stuff). >> >> This would of course apply even to long-time committers, no matter how >> it hurt their ego (which I definitively do not care about). >> > > As a long time GCC committer, I think that you have grossly > over-simplified the GCC review process and how a submitted > patch is approved for committing. > Yes. - Arnaud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 21:54:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1914D1065675 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackoroses@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E808FC15 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so5253607iwr.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:53:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wf96qO/YvSvnPVYjAbazvVqq9CUl49HVnbDDQjzgtDw=; b=gFgaw3w+3QSY4H8F/h4+J1r8JjKBcXzaHseZ4Rr8SWn5/mBhWlcCwSGq/J1+a6CmOM HIZAHICr4f5/kbRRUOAESDdTqgrYxGuX6oZQx1JOGQDTERQBm+KLwrGbQY0KleXLxzz5 Y5R4expQ3tYJUDqIrnRNUXkBLD6k06KOTTPa4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.49.131 with SMTP id v3mr4801840ibf.112.1310421237940; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.34.197 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:53:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110711201556.GA13136@thought.org> References: <20110711201556.GA13136@thought.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:53:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mike L To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: what is causing this warning in /var/log/messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jackoroses@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:54:00 -0000 you didn't google too hard because the very first thing I found on google was this http://groups.google.com/group/comp.protocols.dns.bind/browse_thread/thread/a50b760883ea08c6?pli=1 courtesy of www.hereletmegooglethatforyou.com On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > Thanks to Matthew Seaman, my named.conf is that much closer to being > set up correctly that I finally reinstalled dns/bind98; the _but_ is > that the following log entry winds up in my messages log. > > I've googled until my fingers are falling off: no resolution. Yes, > named runs and stuff more/less works. Can anybody clue me in on how > to get rid of the following? > > > > Jul 11 13:00:25 ethic named[40109]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/internal: > loading from master file > 3bed2cb3a3acf7b6a8ef408420cc682d5520e26976d354254f528c965612054f.mkeys > failed: file not found > > > > TIA for any help here, > > gary > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org > The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 21:50:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9231D10656AB; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacombar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548168FC20; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so4217296pvg.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TQqBeUi00VHs2aMCPDIIX8zLNzLfkeWV9eN0NUilYXQ=; b=i1PG40KAReIuo3kU9vGDD+w0vKtJRydK++25JCqk9ryRm4JM4mnYr1svmw2RZvt64z a/BN+9idMdeVD0/iIdZdZeMGWxB9C0o7VsZddboyysKE5e1iOPyloJfuJPM5VRrenJlH uWAPS3gF6jq1dhlvnaoTOioeEyx6xlOZJSV4E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.41.34 with SMTP id c2mr7924714pbl.340.1310421044611; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.49.42 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110706162811.GA68436@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20110706193636.GA69550@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4E14CCE5.4050906@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110707015151.GB71966@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20110711204049.GA98996@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:50:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Lacombe To: Steve Kargl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:08:22 +0000 Cc: Adrian Chadd , FreeBSD Current , "Hartmann, O." , arrowdodger <6yearold@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heavy I/O blocks FreeBSD box for several seconds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:50:45 -0000 Hi, [re-sent publicly, I did not "Replied-to-all":)] On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Steve Kargl > wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 04:33:44PM -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >>> >>> For the record, I would like to see enforced public review for _every_ >>> patch *before* it is checked in, as a strong rule. gcc system is >>> particularly interesting. But it is not likely to happen in FreeBSD >>> where FreeBSD committers are clearly more free than other at >>> checking-in un-publicly-reviewed stuff (especially _bad_ stuff). >>> >>> This would of course apply even to long-time committers, no matter how >>> it hurt their ego (which I definitively do not care about). >>> >> >> As a long time GCC committer, I think that you have grossly >> over-simplified the GCC review process and how a submitted >> patch is approved for committing. >> > Yes. > Just to provide information more information than these sterile mails, here is the gcc contribution guidelines: http://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html - Arnaud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 22:13:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C9B106566B; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE148FC16; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BMDMJP099468; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6BMDMXJ099467; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:13:22 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Arnaud Lacombe Message-ID: <20110711221322.GA99440@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <4E14CCE5.4050906@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110707015151.GB71966@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20110711204049.GA98996@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:29:44 +0000 Cc: Adrian Chadd , FreeBSD Current , "Hartmann, O." , arrowdodger <6yearold@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heavy I/O blocks FreeBSD box for several seconds X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:13:23 -0000 On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 05:50:44PM -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Steve Kargl > > wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 04:33:44PM -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > >>> > >>> For the record, I would like to see enforced public review for _every_ > >>> patch *before* it is checked in, as a strong rule. gcc system is > >>> particularly interesting. But it is not likely to happen in FreeBSD > >>> where FreeBSD committers are clearly more free than other at > >>> checking-in un-publicly-reviewed stuff (especially _bad_ stuff). > >>> > >>> This would of course apply even to long-time committers, no matter how > >>> it hurt their ego (which I definitively do not care about). > >>> > >> > >> As a long time GCC committer, I think that you have grossly > >> over-simplified the GCC review process and how a submitted > >> patch is approved for committing. > >> > > Yes. > > > Just to provide information more information than these sterile mails, > here is the gcc contribution guidelines: > > http://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html > Which if one reads, one finds http://gcc.gnu.org/svnwrite.html#policies Localized write permission. This is for people who have primary responsibility for ports, front ends, or other specific aspects of the compiler. These folks are allowed to make changes to areas they maintain and related documentation, web pages, and test cases without approval from anyone else, and approve other people's changes in those areas. They must get approval for changes elsewhere in the compiler. -- Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 11 22:59:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF69106564A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7118FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB1F2E80A51; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:59:24 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Mike L Message-ID: <20110711225924.GA14982@thought.org> References: <20110711201556.GA13136@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what is causing this warning in /var/log/messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:59:26 -0000 On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 05:53:57PM -0400, Mike L wrote: > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:53:57 -0400 > From: Mike L > Subject: Re: what is causing this warning in /var/log/messages? > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > you didn't google too hard because the very first thing I found on google > was this > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.protocols.dns.bind/browse_thread/thread/a50b760883ea08c6?pli=1 > courtesy of www.hereletmegooglethatforyou.com > > the url that you found was among the first that i found. nothing i tried resolved the bug ... so may this is once where the term 'bug' applies. > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > Guys, > > > > Thanks to Matthew Seaman, my named.conf is that much closer to being > > set up correctly that I finally reinstalled dns/bind98; the _but_ is > > that the following log entry winds up in my messages log. > > > > I've googled until my fingers are falling off: no resolution. Yes, > > named runs and stuff more/less works. Can anybody clue me in on how > > to get rid of the following? > > > > > > > > Jul 11 13:00:25 ethic named[40109]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/internal: > > loading from master file > > 3bed2cb3a3acf7b6a8ef408420cc682d5520e26976d354254f528c965612054f.mkeys > > failed: file not found > > > > > > > > TIA for any help here, > > > > gary > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > Unix > > Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org > > The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 02:52:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293F71065673 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coco@executive-computing.de) Received: from mail.moehre.org (mail.moehre.org [195.96.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB108FC15 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.moehre.org (unknown [195.96.35.7]) by mail.moehre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92CE8B141F; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:33:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.964 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.964 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, AWL=0.036, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=disabled Received: from mail.moehre.org ([195.96.35.7]) by mail.moehre.org (mail.moehre.org [195.96.35.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A3+cec1qHePD; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:33:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.35] (p54B0B064.dip.t-dialin.net [84.176.176.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: coco@executive-computing.de) by mail.moehre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDEAC8B141C; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:33:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E1BB046.4050307@executive-computing.de> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:24:06 +0200 From: Marco Steinbach User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110707224435.GA27624@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110707224435.GA27624@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: tftp - bad checksum error? can't transfer file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:52:16 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht schrieb: > I'm trying to troubleshoot tftpd(8). > > % grep boot /etc/inetd.conf > tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -dd -l -s /tftpboot > tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -dd -l -s /tftpboot > bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/bootpd bootpd -d4 -t0 /etc/bootptab > % > > I'm trying to boot another node via bootp/tftp. > > I'm monitoring what's going on with tcpdump -vv. > > bootpd starts fine, and seems to read /etc/bootptab > correctly. > > But after that nothing happens, and after a few minutes > I get on the console of the host which I want to boot: > >> bootp()/bsd.rd.IP32 > Unable to execute bootp()/bsd.rd.IP32: invalid argument > [...] Last time I saw this error was with an SGI Octance 2, where the Octanes RRQ requests contained trailing garbage, which FreeBSDs tftp tried to interpret as extended options. Try disabling options_rfc and options_extra in /usr/src/libexec/tftpd/tftp-options.c, and reinstall tftpd. MfG CoCo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 03:09:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423DA1065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coco@executive-computing.de) Received: from mail.moehre.org (mail.moehre.org [195.96.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001858FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.moehre.org (unknown [195.96.35.7]) by mail.moehre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379808B141F; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:09:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.964 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.964 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, AWL=0.036, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=disabled Received: from mail.moehre.org ([195.96.35.7]) by mail.moehre.org (mail.moehre.org [195.96.35.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7-o6QuuDzd2; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.35] (p54B0B064.dip.t-dialin.net [84.176.176.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: coco@executive-computing.de) by mail.moehre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57A698B141C; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E1BB8B8.60804@executive-computing.de> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:00:08 +0200 From: Marco Steinbach User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110707224435.GA27624@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4E1BB046.4050307@executive-computing.de> In-Reply-To: <4E1BB046.4050307@executive-computing.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: tftp - bad checksum error? can't transfer file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:09:52 -0000 Marco Steinbach schrieb: > Anton Shterenlikht schrieb: >> I'm trying to troubleshoot tftpd(8). >> >> % grep boot /etc/inetd.conf >> tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -dd -l -s /tftpboot >> tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -dd -l -s /tftpboot >> bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/bootpd bootpd -d4 -t0 >> /etc/bootptab >> % >> >> I'm trying to boot another node via bootp/tftp. >> >> I'm monitoring what's going on with tcpdump -vv. >> >> bootpd starts fine, and seems to read /etc/bootptab >> correctly. >> >> But after that nothing happens, and after a few minutes >> I get on the console of the host which I want to boot: >> >>> bootp()/bsd.rd.IP32 >> Unable to execute bootp()/bsd.rd.IP32: invalid argument >> > [...] > > Last time I saw this error was with an SGI Octance 2, where the Octanes > RRQ requests contained trailing garbage, which FreeBSDs tftp tried to > interpret as extended options. > > Try disabling options_rfc and options_extra in > /usr/src/libexec/tftpd/tftp-options.c, and reinstall tftpd. > Here's another, probably more feasible suggestion: tftpd(8)s man page (on 8.2-STABLE) tells: -o Disable support for RFC2347 style TFTP Options. I don't remember, if that knob didn't do the trick for me, or if I just didn't see and try it. I assume the latter. MfG CoCo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 03:26:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECF5106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54488FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6C3QhvU006064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6C3Qhst006063 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA11864; Mon, 11 Jul 11 20:17:37 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:18:07 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:26:46 -0000 DISPLAY is not getting set in a remote shell started by "ssh -X". $ echo $DISPLAY :0.0 $ ssh -X [server] 'echo DISPLAY=%$DISPLAY%' DISPLAY=%% How would I go about debugging this? DISPLAY _is_ set correctly on the ssh client -- I am running in an xterm there, and can successfully start another (local) one -- and the word DISPLAY is not present in any of the shell startup files (.bash*, .cshrc, .login, .profile, .shrc) on either the ssh client or the ssh server. The ssh client is FreeBSD 6.1 and the ssh server is FreeBSD 8.1. It does work correctly in the other direction (using the 8.1 system as the ssh client and the 6.1 system as the ssh server), and I can run X11 programs on the 8.1 system, displaying on the 6.1 system, provided I set DISPLAY appropriately on the 8.1 system. It's only the ssh X11 forwarding that's broken, and only in one direction. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 03:48:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1E61065686 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0408FC1C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:48:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=dfOFY3LwtvwKwVnJMShJubm5czAWM4McrBhb6cFcJTA=; b=R5jVCU9r1vxBd8moWfF/0JmUbbisQnOkskAke9ebKbIPhmtrXmcF7AtGrnufHaBqUF/iGodLaAt5v8o3h2+cpe48jY+LRSK7+EfnSVJOT/BRwV3EH8tAq87AsEbAaxKo; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QgTze-0007MW-Bj for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:50:43 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1310442636-33514-33513/5/6; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:50:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:47:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Cc: Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:48:08 -0000 This sounds silly, but what happens if you try ssh -Y Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 04:49:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C331065675 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDD18FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6C4mj95083559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6C4mj2s083557; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA12125; Mon, 11 Jul 11 21:45:53 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:46:22 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: feld@feld.me Message-Id: <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:49:11 -0000 Mark Felder wrote: > This sounds silly, but what happens if you try ssh -Y Exactly the same thing as with -X, in either direction. It still fails with the 6.1 system as the ssh client, and works with the 6.1 system as the ssh server From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 05:06:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CE2106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF418FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so2931721qwc.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.177.20 with SMTP id bg20mr566999qab.144.1310447193622; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.241.206 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:06:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: feld@feld.me, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:06:34 -0000 xauth not in your path? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:46 AM, wrote: > Mark Felder wrote: > >> This sounds silly, but what happens if you try ssh -Y > > Exactly the same thing as with -X, in either direction. > > It still fails with the 6.1 system as the ssh client, > and works with the 6.1 system as the ssh server > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 05:07:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDB6106567A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C078FC1F for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:07:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:From:Mime-Version:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=3qhX8FKJlMJn9VkughHrJliPrnVZkJK6/Qm0q+0stNE=; b=du+F990rzHEgPcvE09jQgd5rLv458HhLr1AA8oP/iv2kKPvJoK0OTYbNz/qEDPnyWGEcxU50nODvrWxDSLPlGJoqwFM1GyjIDB+OpLQzbpldV73N7roCYlrs5KU85+Sf; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QgVEr-000AVr-4g; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:10:29 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1310447422-33514-33513/5/7; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:10:22 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, Michael Sierchio References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:07:45 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:07:55 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:06:33 -0500, Michael Sierchio wrote: > xauth not in your path? ssh -Y skips all auth stuff so you don't need xauth; he said that didn't work either :-( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 05:17:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7611D106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC5A8FC18 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so4392839vxg.13 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:17:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=K6jx7mqCXvMlXW/V4RYQtA/K0AHgkOhLm7vtT0qs7gw=; b=olZHu36UTAmRDNQ9xb/wvtnRAGrPogbiUGiagw6wq+6y9EcNeyOc0ilMUoA8da2HEj i4ProIaoMMC+jDysQoLIYBeDgyBXQjZhGpUoA6Is7JX4c2mxEKx2GAzi4RMyx4xn5fI0 Dag2LUS61MzL90FRKZmr5oyHvSzkv7K5dL3uY= Received: by 10.52.170.105 with SMTP id al9mr3557882vdc.304.1310446380730; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:53:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.165.74 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:52:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:52:30 +0000 Message-ID: To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: feld@feld.me, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:17:33 -0000 > > It still fails with the 6.1 system as the ssh client, > and works with the 6.1 system as the ssh server Is X11Forwarding yes set in the server config of the failing direction? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 05:49:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9CD1065675 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696D08FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6C5nUvw088966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6C5nUnP088965; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA12341; Mon, 11 Jul 11 22:44:03 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:44:32 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: lists@eitanadler.com Message-Id: <4e1c41b0.EcHMZE5UI0TRpumb%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: feld@feld.me, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:49:34 -0000 Eitan Adler wrote: > > It still fails with the 6.1 system as the ssh client, > > and works with the 6.1 system as the ssh server > > Is X11Forwarding yes set in the server config of the failing > direction? Both seem to be defaulted. On 6.1: $ egrep -C 2 X11Forwarding /etc/ssh/sshd_config #AllowTcpForwarding yes #GatewayPorts no #X11Forwarding yes #X11DisplayOffset 10 #X11UseLocalhost yes On 8.1: $ egrep -C 2 X11Forwarding /etc/ssh/sshd_config #AllowTcpForwarding yes #GatewayPorts no #X11Forwarding yes #X11DisplayOffset 10 #X11UseLocalhost yes -- # Example of overriding settings on a per-user basis #Match User anoncvs # X11Forwarding no # AllowTcpForwarding no # ForceCommand cvs server From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 06:22:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356C41065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5778FC14 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6C6Mu71025626; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:56 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6C6Mt5t025617; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:56 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8CD0933C1F; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:55 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:22:55 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20110712062255.GA45128@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:22:59 -0000 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:18:07AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > DISPLAY is not getting set in a remote shell started by "ssh -X". >=20 > $ echo $DISPLAY > :0.0 > $ ssh -X [server] 'echo DISPLAY=3D%$DISPLAY%' > DISPLAY=3D%% >=20 > How would I go about debugging this? >=20 > DISPLAY _is_ set correctly on the ssh client -- I am running in > an xterm there, and can successfully start another (local) one -- > and the word DISPLAY is not present in any of the shell startup > files (.bash*, .cshrc, .login, .profile, .shrc) on either the > ssh client or the ssh server. >=20 > The ssh client is FreeBSD 6.1 and the ssh server is FreeBSD 8.1. >=20 > It does work correctly in the other direction (using the 8.1 system > as the ssh client and the 6.1 system as the ssh server), and I can > run X11 programs on the 8.1 system, displaying on the 6.1 system, > provided I set DISPLAY appropriately on the 8.1 system. It's only > the ssh X11 forwarding that's broken, and only in one direction. Have you tried putting: DISPLAY=3D:0.0 in ~/.ssh/environment on the machine that's not setting DISPLAY properly? Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4b6D4ACgkQHduKvUAgeK6i2gCffjPmPd4MLlqJ03oF+1vabxK/ dk8AnA/5u+qlSt7epbOIvobLOdHHYKGm =Kwx2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 07:10:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73C01065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664428FC15 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6C7AtP8095566 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6C7AtcP095565; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA12611; Tue, 12 Jul 11 00:09:41 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:10:10 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kudzu@tenebras.com, feld@feld.me Message-Id: <4e1c55c2.Mw4JraW9aXj0alCb%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4e1c340e.3E+90Iim2rCaR/tB%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Solved: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:10:59 -0000 Mark Felder wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:06:33 -0500, Michael Sierchio > wrote: > > > xauth not in your path? > > ssh -Y skips all auth stuff so you don't need xauth; he said that > didn't work either :-( Well, apparently, even -Y needs xauth (which was not installed on the 8.1 system) on the ssh server -- although not on the ssh client. After installing it: $ ssh -Y fbsd81 'echo DISPLAY=%$DISPLAY%' /usr/local/bin/xauth: creating new authority file /home/perryh/.Xauthority DISPLAY=%localhost:10.0% and -X also works :) so this turns out to have been the solution. Next question: shouldn't I have gotten some kind of error message when attempting "ssh -X" or "ssh -Y" when xauth wasn't available? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 07:30:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D76D106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE908FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6C7UpTk097259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6C7Up3W097258; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA12707; Tue, 12 Jul 11 00:26:46 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:27:15 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: frank@shute.org.uk Message-Id: <4e1c59c3.T5kMrjV/l+lA16KI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e1c1f5f.LsZHLb8pZocKlPVV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110712062255.GA45128@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110712062255.GA45128@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X (X11 forwarding) not working from 6.1 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:30:52 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:18:07AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > > DISPLAY is not getting set in a remote shell started by "ssh -X". ... > Have you tried putting: > > DISPLAY=:0.0 > > in ~/.ssh/environment on the machine that's not setting DISPLAY > properly? Wouldn't that cause the remote app -- which is running on the ssh server -- to (try to) use that machine's own local display? A port-forwarded connection normally has something along the lines of DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 (but it can't be hard-coded, because the "10" part will vary depending on what-all port-forwarded connections exist). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 08:11:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF6B106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2088FC13 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so4249879wyg.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.9.80 with SMTP id k16mr5194722wbk.20.1310458299087; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fp5sm9435034wbb.32.2011.07.12.01.11.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E1C01BA.3020406@my.gd> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:11:38 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Unga References: <1310402991.9928.YahooMailClassic@web160114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1310402991.9928.YahooMailClassic@web160114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transparent load balancing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:11:42 -0000 On 7/11/11 6:49 PM, Unga wrote: > Hi all > > I need to implement a transparent load balancing daemon in C. > > That is, the daemon accept a TCP connection, get more info from the client, and forward the communication transparently to another server to handle it. > > How this could be implemented on FreeBSD? What basic primitives I should study more? > > Many thanks in advance. > > Best regards > Unga > Hey up, 2 questions come to mind: 1/ "get more info from the client" -> what kind of info ? 2/ have you considered HAProxy ? It does offer a TCP mode. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 09:39:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B41B106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529BF8FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.133] (helo=smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgZRW-0008T8-FX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:39:50 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgZRS-0002Aw-3R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:39:46 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.112] (192.168.11.112) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 37BDA4; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:40:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4E1C1664.2030701@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:39:48 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QgZRS-0002Aw-3R X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=1.147, vereist 5, BAYES_05 -0.50, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: mutt and slrn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:39:52 -0000 I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn (news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' programs? Are they gone? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 09:54:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D534106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98908FC12 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.152] (helo=smtp20.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgZfm-0005kD-QR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:54:34 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp20.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgZfm-0008LY-3w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:54:34 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.112] (192.168.11.112) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 09C788; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:54:53 +0200 Message-ID: <4E1C19DC.8060404@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:54:36 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E1C1664.2030701@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <4E1C1664.2030701@nagual.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QgZfm-0008LY-3w X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=1.647, vereist 5, BAYES_05 -0.50, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: mutt and slrn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:54:36 -0000 Op 12-7-2011 11:39 schreef Dick Hoogendijk: > I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to > change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn > (news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, > there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' > programs? Are they gone? I stand corrected. Must have overlooked something in doing the make search name= thing in /usr/ports. They do exist in the normal places (news/slrn and mail/mutt) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 11:07:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C9E106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75EDE8FC1D for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jul 2011 11:07:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jul 2011 11:07:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jul 2011 11:07:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 901198.24260.bm@omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44233 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jul 2011 11:07:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1310468863; bh=miuaORzsWdqt9EDS9S6kHNTopAp+cZ/v+SArlmUQuDM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ol7ect4xXzcXg0NO0iq7ycaUBCIlQVOMYzfY9nywiDWY4m0tXqMKNrd4tqbYqYCS/1xq4kbX6onuohhIOcYN0lbulDeklUCq9kSWJJjxgiXptN2SLwn5h4BUEOFkQA3rSaXu4R02a1oDIe+ZC8KswpVXRe/gWqK/q7aVTOJCrBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mLNjb3hlxU82jj2QSxL8pJez7DPLcUqN3JqSku7UCYAPGCBQLhETiIw9OLZvETLkiQkxgVs7Qxuekv4ZpymJxoBf6sQfa7IG4t5pGK88oVFjF6dDS2G0IvluDcwGycABZv4Jr0gje8yCIOjGkrJkqm7wfkm6sa8xwbYP2XWRTwg=; X-YMail-OSG: n8OxEOUVM1mCS.DV1G2WhYfGL5Qm_vZrdmpR1sHfWQDe95F ZjHcFvXfutSGi3YoCzOFqGgTZGj.fXjbfnua3ra6o6I1MUKKgYehI66aOW8C MzkLs90LvsqIvVZLsPueueIeFiyfV2nqTN979.hpKeqToM5KxRrAlgbZ8L0p RmlDCEzw0bXQAmIqeJdrL.5j1aUUvGrJHtg01CF622Dw.z6P_A1KmrIFM5Mc 7vSXJRfP_qJ4fLfK6qtK7eoQzqYbq0dFO2u9Hg_WQVssuU9oY7q6ad1HM2H0 8wZOb_3.MV6wixOB5QOoPvXyOCk2a4YfyouOllKGDoHbANd9G_ix4KEMVK5o WGY08p.0Z7JM.f5RX8FgEn0C3GZu_Xf2_NRmEWos2GG.e37VBDq2jXPuZJgX evu.HaziowQpDT14_NMin7tJO.Hr9VZW3gBlPe3.SCE5X.h1YWTw1GoRpAe3 TmLSfK6Tda0430_rV50ylNUKe57Y4QM2LAgp0ZpKj7xWIOmBn2IY- Received: from [112.134.101.234] by web160106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:07:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1310468863.38061.YahooMailClassic@web160106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:07:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: <4E1C01BA.3020406@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transparent load balancing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:07:45 -0000 --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > From: Damien Fleuriot > Subject: Re: Transparent load balancing > To: "Unga" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 4:11 PM > On 7/11/11 6:49 PM, Unga wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I need to implement a transparent load balancing > daemon in C. > > > > That is, the daemon accept a TCP connection, get more > info from the client, and forward the communication > transparently to another server to handle it. > > > > How this could be implemented on FreeBSD? What basic > primitives I should study more? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > Best regards > > Unga > > > > > Hey up, > > > > 2 questions come to mind: > > 1/ "get more info from the client" -> what kind of info > ? > 2/ have you considered HAProxy ? It does offer a TCP mode. Hi Damien and Chuck Appreciate for replying on this. I want to ask from the client, eg. where do you want to go?, If north, I want to forward to the north server, if south, to the south server. I need to get developed something probably similar to the Proto Balance (http://www.protonet.co.za/whitepaper.html). It says "connections are transparently forwarded to an instance chosen by Proto Balance". I want my daemon to make that choice. Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 12:19:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699A51065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01B8E8FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.195] by nm2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jul 2011 12:19:26 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.185] by tm8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jul 2011 12:19:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1068.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jul 2011 12:19:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 107110.90488.bm@omp1068.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 58471 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jul 2011 12:19:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:19:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/572 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:19:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: Dan Nelson , Michael Sierchio In-Reply-To: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:19:27 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Dan Nelson =0ATo: Michael Sierchio =0ACc: freebsd= -questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Mon, July 11, 2011 1:07:31 PM=0ASubject: Re:= IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect=0A=0AIn the last episode (Jul 11),= Michael Sierchio said:=0A> Sorry for the naive question, but most of my ol= d rulesets still use=0A> natd, and I've only used built-in nat for outbound= traffic.=A0 I'd like=0A> to redirect certain ports on certain addresses to= the same ports on=0A> internal (RFC1918) addresses.=A0 The examples in the= man page aren't=0A> helpful, and the handbook still seems very natd-centri= c in its=0A> examples.=A0 Thanks in advance.=0A=0AI use this at the top of = my /etc/ipfw.conf file (re0.2 is the interface=0Acorresponding to my intern= et connection) :=0A=0Anat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port = tcp 10.0.0.3:22 22 =0Aadd nat 123 ip from any to any via re0.2=0A=0A, which= redirects incoming port 22 connections to 10.0.0.3.=A0 If you want to=0Are= direct more ports, add more "redirect_port tcp host:port port" expressions= =0Ato the end of your nat line.=A0 I believe you can run the nat config com= mand=0Amanually with a new list (as in "ipfw nat 123 ...") to add/remove en= tries=0Adynamically.=A0 I'm not at home to try it, and don't want to risk l= osing my=0Aremote connection if I mess up :)=0A=0A-- =0A=A0=A0=A0 Dan Nelso= n=0A=A0=A0=A0 dnelson@allantgroup.com=0A___________________________________= ____________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.fr= eebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mai= l to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0AI have used IPF= W for many years now. As for forwarding traffic from your gateway =0Ato int= ernal machines I've always used the following in my /etc/natd.conf file:=0A= =0Adynamic=0Aredirect_port tcp 10.0.0.254:80 80 # Apache Webserver inside m= y LAN=0Aredirect_port udp 10.0.0.214:1194 1194 # OpenVPN Port=0Aredirect_po= rt tcp 10.0.0.213:443 443=A0=A0 # OpenVPN Port=0A=0AOf course you will need= a line like this in your /etc/rc.conf to get natd to =0Aread this file:=0A= =0Anatd_flags=3D"-f /etc/natd.conf"=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 14:32:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A3A106566C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:32:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9B48FC17 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.34]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4903CCBD50 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.50]) by mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4060236610A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (dslb-094-217-103-032.pools.arcor-ip.net [94.217.103.32]) by mail-in-10.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1B522D66ED for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:02:03 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-10.arcor-online.net F1B522D66ED Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p6CE23mD083825 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:02:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p6CE238p083824 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:02:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20110702134355.abcf92f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <201107021606.p62G6TbB046901@mail.r-bonomi.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is xz ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:32:35 -0000 Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Correct. I'm currently on 7-STABLE where it's "not yet" part of > > the base system, but my new 8.2-STABLE also has it in /usr/bin. > > I believe it has been introduced with version 8... > > It is part of '7.2-RELEASE', It is not. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 15:43:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64FF106564A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3E58FC1B for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38so3291911qyk.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.43.166 with SMTP id w38mr68891qce.183.1310485388673; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.241.206 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:43:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Bill Tillman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:43:09 -0000 Is there a way of specifying a particular public address if there is more than one bound to the external interface? A la nat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 102.10.22.1:2222 ? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Bill Tillman wrote: > > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Nelson > To: Michael Sierchio > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Mon, July 11, 2011 1:07:31 PM > Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect > > In the last episode (Jul 11), Michael Sierchio said: >> Sorry for the naive question, but most of my old rulesets still use >> natd, and I've only used built-in nat for outbound traffic.=A0 I'd like >> to redirect certain ports on certain addresses to the same ports on >> internal (RFC1918) addresses.=A0 The examples in the man page aren't >> helpful, and the handbook still seems very natd-centric in its >> examples.=A0 Thanks in advance. > > I use this at the top of my /etc/ipfw.conf file (re0.2 is the interface > corresponding to my internet connection) : > > nat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 22 > add nat 123 ip from any to any via re0.2 > > , which redirects incoming port 22 connections to 10.0.0.3.=A0 If you wan= t to > redirect more ports, add more "redirect_port tcp host:port port" expressi= ons > to the end of your nat line.=A0 I believe you can run the nat config comm= and > manually with a new list (as in "ipfw nat 123 ...") to add/remove entries > dynamically.=A0 I'm not at home to try it, and don't want to risk losing = my > remote connection if I mess up :) > > -- > =A0=A0=A0 Dan Nelson > =A0=A0=A0 dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > > I have used IPFW for many years now. As for forwarding traffic from your > gateway to internal machines I've always used the following in my > /etc/natd.conf file: > > dynamic > redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.254:80 80 # Apache Webserver inside my LAN > redirect_port udp 10.0.0.214:1194 1194 # OpenVPN Port > redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.213:443 443=A0=A0 # OpenVPN Port > > Of course you will need a line like this in your /etc/rc.conf to get natd= to > read this file: > > natd_flags=3D"-f /etc/natd.conf" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 16:03:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC1D1065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F219D8FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6CG36LG059402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:03:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6CG36E1097757 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:03:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p6CG35fS097756; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:03:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:03:05 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Michael Sierchio Message-ID: <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:03:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: Bill Tillman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:03:08 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 12), Michael Sierchio said: > Is there a way of specifying a particular public address if there is > more than one bound to the external interface? A la > > nat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 102.10.22.1:2222 Yes; the redirect_port syntax is described in the natd manpage: redirect_port proto targetIP:targetPORT[-targetPORT] [aliasIP:]aliasPORT[-aliasPORT] [remoteIP[:remotePORT[-remotePORT]]] -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 17:40:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAF61065670 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33E68FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6CHeh2F022457 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:40:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p6CHehVd022454 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:40:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:40:43 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Re: mergemaster confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:40:45 -0000 On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, doug@safeport.com wrote: > I have a mergemaster question. I assume this is my error but do not see what > I did. I am testing remote update procedures so I started with a 7.0 IS0 and > updated it to 7.4. > > My mergemaster.rc has the following directives: > > FREEBSD_ID=yes > AUTO_UPGRADE=yes > AUTO_INSTALL=yes > DELETE_STALE_RC_FILES=yes > COMP_CONFS=yes > > plus some diff options. As this was a system with nothing changed except for > group, passwd, and csh.cshrc, I expected mergemaster to update all the other > files. I think from the code the value does not matter for the first three so > yes would be ok (if I am correct). > > As this did not work (as I expected), I retried with mergemaster -rFUi > getting the same result. What did I do wrong? I was afraid that was the answer. Dusting off my script seems to be it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 22:35:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB68C1065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686D68FC18 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so3486705qwc.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.45.1 with SMTP id c1mr403881qcf.259.1310510119432; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.241.206 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:35:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Bill Tillman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:35:20 -0000 We're not talking about natd. The question was about the use of ipfirewall= nat. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Dan Nelson wrote= : > In the last episode (Jul 12), Michael Sierchio said: >> Is there a way of specifying a particular public address if there is >> more than one bound to the external interface? =A0A la >> >> nat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 102= .10.22.1:2222 > > Yes; the redirect_port syntax is described in the natd manpage: > > =A0 =A0 redirect_port proto targetIP:targetPORT[-targetPORT] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [aliasIP:]aliasPORT[-aliasPORT] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [remoteIP[:remotePORT[-remotePORT]]] > > > > -- > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Dan Nelson > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 23:05:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C541065672 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C318FC18 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6CN5Qge000436 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:05:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6CN5Qrn092175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:05:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p6CN5QTB092174; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:05:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:05:26 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Michael Sierchio Message-ID: <20110712230525.GJ6611@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:05:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: Bill Tillman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:05:28 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 12), Michael Sierchio said: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Jul 12), Michael Sierchio said: > >> Is there a way of specifying a particular public address if there is > >> more than one bound to the external interface?  A la > >> > >> nat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 102.10.22.1:2222 > > > > Yes; the redirect_port syntax is described in the natd manpage: > > > >     redirect_port proto targetIP:targetPORT[-targetPORT] > >                 [aliasIP:]aliasPORT[-aliasPORT] > >                 [remoteIP[:remotePORT[-remotePORT]]] > > > > We're not talking about natd. The question was about the use of > ipfirewall nat. Right, but ipfw nat is basically the userland libalias library loaded as a kernel module, so the config parameters are the same. $ grep MODULE_DEPEND /sys/netinet/ipfw/ip_fw_nat.c MODULE_DEPEND(ipfw_nat, libalias, 1, 1, 1); MODULE_DEPEND(ipfw_nat, ipfw, 2, 2, 2); also, man ipfw: NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION (NAT) ipfw support in-kernel NAT using the kernel version of libalias(3). [..] REDIRECT AND LSNAT SUPPORT IN IPFW Redirect and LSNAT support follow closely the syntax used in natd(8). See Section EXAMPLES for some examples on how to do redirect and lsnat. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 06:05:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2024106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm14.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 982428FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.195] by nm14.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2011 06:05:40 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.151] by tm8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2011 06:05:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2011 06:05:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 724342.59393.bm@omp1034.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 35195 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jul 2011 06:05:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1310537140; bh=MxpMJv2e3J3KD9Gg+Nc36ntNgSTy0OgUg6tWgTPNo1o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q1CNQ1i8wEO8xVFPg4fKp0jB59AMl3s1z9wUG3IDvjKHRpBqmKXn7R45HlR+6vfBdhc4LAGdVr63FwOt4RImcpa/B88C0MZvCd4a2iKdC/Bek+d0Eor8zqncsB172/Aq3N1spcXMFNU49vlPjKInMEyKcUeLpWXqW2bqsIvCSfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6MsO747Vd4OR10ki6NSW1BohxbavcgKOsETjth9O/wO67uyWncrRl+XPb477GEV3XRd+JCT7VKPDwBez9c5vnBuhH9RRh0fXhUGdyXN/wkOheKnI/l7iIkxagTEhkfMMiWtA5HV5yJ6Ie/VIQRRBQdg3QnOwLOLd8vPAB6YwEiU=; X-YMail-OSG: 9wmOP0oVM1mpyvUO27pph6X1NxdfTNq9xo_WESL1Oyt_mEb Tib7M_chK9tggzQWNiJsndwl7vB25eia.RXKSU1YyA49Kp5g5YTRDUG_XE_X 4nGw7B6t8YiJ.8eHBJ.1iOTllqll7da1fBOw5QggkwpDEgBpP015vaF.YPf6 m3OydmfvoXn4qvmP2p1.LzDfGL_mE36.ua7wAJouWdhkmoVybF0akrR.9jPV _ydZj03LevOVoihMKtBybyDPlYhOsptKus0SiXVUn.S6pCxqPMwG1MrvscYH N7eK95JtzAQlxqIJyJys1nXwPGN61VMHOeI3RSp.zag6k43_g2heY4zW1OyK GADIqso7OXcvMjZ_3a7akKEiBsv_Ht_ROOzqZadpFCqPTzfCre6c2k2mjMr1 Oc7kaGblSciS5Ey0TdwvAqUjwBinQcbtRX5FBxWMUTECo7rYyTtXij6wxxhF ySRTQOlUzNVSKfm2WKDdTN.NTxko- Received: from [76.108.201.66] by web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:05:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/572 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <1310537140.18043.YahooMailRC@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:05:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:05:42 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Michael Sierchio =0ATo: Dan Nelson =0ACc: Bill Ti= llman ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Tue, Ju= ly 12, 2011 6:35:19 PM=0ASubject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redire= ct=0A=0AWe're not talking about natd.=A0 The question was about the use of = ipfirewall nat.=0A=0AOn Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Dan Nelson wrote:=0A> In the last episode (Jul 12), Michael Sierchio s= aid:=0A>> Is there a way of specifying a particular public address if there= is=0A>> more than one bound to the external interface? =A0A la=0A>>=0A>> n= at 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 =0A>>10= 2.10.22.1:2222=0A>=0A> Yes; the redirect_port syntax is described in the na= td manpage:=0A>=0A> =A0 =A0 redirect_port proto targetIP:targetPORT[-target= PORT]=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [aliasIP:]aliasPORT[-aliasPORT]= =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [remoteIP[:remotePORT[-remotePORT]]]= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> --=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Dan Nelson=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0dnelso= n@allantgroup.com=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> f= reebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mail= man/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebs= d-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A________________________________= _______________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists= .freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any = mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0ANATD and IPFW w= ork together. It's a little hard to explain in this format so as =0ADan sug= gests, you should read the manpage on each. Also, do some google searches = =0Aand you will find many helpful articles. But take my word for this, you = can do =0Aexactly what you want with IPFW+NATD. There are those who will pr= obably promote =0APF as the firewall of choice as well. It all depends on w= hat you become familiar =0Awith. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 06:17:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB28106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AC68FC0C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yic13 with SMTP id 13so1524482yic.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:17:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.79.69 with SMTP id h45mr1006323yhe.342.1310537873510; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.202.169 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:17:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1310537140.18043.YahooMailRC@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310537140.18043.YahooMailRC@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:17:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Bill Tillman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:17:55 -0000 I'm familiar with natd since its appearance. I was unclear on the ipfirewall nat syntax, since there is no syntax definition in the man page. It's true the man page is already too large, but some examples (somewhere) would be nice. Marshaling packets into userland and back into the kernel makes natd much slower than kernel nat. The statement "follow closely the syntax used in natd" is not particularly reassuring, since it doesn't declare that the syntax is identical, and (I am repeating myself, sorry), there is no syntax def in the man page. Thanks, Dan, for explaining. - M On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Bill Tillman wrote= : > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Sierchio > To: Dan Nelson > Cc: Bill Tillman ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Tue, July 12, 2011 6:35:19 PM > Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect > > We're not talking about natd.=A0 The question was about the use of ipfire= wall nat. > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Dan Nelson wro= te: >> In the last episode (Jul 12), Michael Sierchio said: >>> Is there a way of specifying a particular public address if there is >>> more than one bound to the external interface? =A0A la >>> >>> nat 123 config if re0.2 log same_ports redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.3:22 >>>102.10.22.1:2222 >> >> Yes; the redirect_port syntax is described in the natd manpage: >> >> =A0 =A0 redirect_port proto targetIP:targetPORT[-targetPORT] >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [aliasIP:]aliasPORT[-aliasPORT] >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [remoteIP[:remotePORT[-remotePORT]]] >> >> >> >> -- >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Dan Nelson >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0dnelson@allantgroup.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > > NATD and IPFW work together. It's a little hard to explain in this format= so as > Dan suggests, you should read the manpage on each. Also, do some google s= earches > and you will find many helpful articles. But take my word for this, you c= an do > exactly what you want with IPFW+NATD. There are those who will probably p= romote > PF as the firewall of choice as well. It all depends on what you become f= amiliar > with. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 06:50:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE891065679 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07498FC1E for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgtH0-00019q-B1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:50:18 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:50:18 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:50:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:51:01 -0400 Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310537140.18043.YahooMailRC@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:50:21 -0000 Michael Sierchio wrote: > I'm familiar with natd since its appearance. I was unclear on the > ipfirewall nat syntax, since there is no syntax definition in the man > page. It's true the man page is already too large, but some examples > (somewhere) would be nice. Marshaling packets into userland and back > into the kernel makes natd much slower than kernel nat. This is no longer true as some while ago IPFW's NATD switched over to being kernel-based. A long time ago when NATD was still userland I switched to Darren Reed's IPFILTER for just this reason. The first thing this entailed was learning the IPFILTER syntax as it was somewhat different from IPFW. I made the adjustment and later I found when I moved to PF the syntax from IPFILTER was closer to PF which made it easier to migrate. > The statement "follow closely the syntax used in natd" is not > particularly reassuring, since it doesn't declare that the syntax is > identical, and (I am repeating myself, sorry), there is no syntax def > in the man page. > [snip] >> >> NATD and IPFW work together. It's a little hard to explain in this format >> so as Dan suggests, you should read the manpage on each. Also, do some >> google searches and you will find many helpful articles. But take my word >> for this, you can do exactly what you want with IPFW+NATD. There are >> those who will probably promote PF as the firewall of choice as well. It >> all depends on what you become familiar with. All trueness here. I have used all three: IPFW, IPFILTER, and PF. I use PF today, but any of the three will work just fine for essentially the same purpose (mostly). For example, IPFW had dummynet for traffic-shaping while PF uses ALTQ for essentially the same purpose. Mostly it is just grokking the syntax for whichever of the three you choose. The Handbook contains some content examples for getting started for IPFW and the PF docs can be found on the OpenBSD web site. Understand the syntax and you can shape the firewall however you choose. The various ruleset examples should probably not just be dropped in cut-and-paste style, but rather dissected line by line for understanding and then make tweaks which conform to exactly your local requirements. And it _is_ some arcane stuff to be sure, but stare at it long enough and it'll make sense eventually. :-) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 06:55:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88174106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4F48FC16 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so2821292gyf.13 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:55:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.190.69 with SMTP id d45mr10494yhn.208.1310540116573; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.202.169 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:55:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310537140.18043.YahooMailRC@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:55:16 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Michael Powell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:55:17 -0000 Mike - You're confused. natd is still a userland process that works via divert sockets. ipfirewall nat is an extension to ipfirewall (ipfw is the userland control program to modify the rulesets, nat config, tables, etc.). - Michael On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Michael Powell w= rote: > Michael Sierchio wrote: > >> I'm familiar with natd since its appearance. =A0I was unclear on the >> ipfirewall nat syntax, since there is no syntax definition in the man >> page. =A0It's true the man page is already too large, but some examples >> (somewhere) would be nice. Marshaling packets into userland and back >> into the kernel makes natd much slower than kernel nat. > > This is no longer true as some while ago IPFW's NATD switched over to bei= ng > kernel-based. A long time ago when NATD was still userland I switched to > Darren Reed's IPFILTER for just this reason. > > The first thing this entailed was learning the IPFILTER syntax as it was > somewhat different from IPFW. I made the adjustment and later I found whe= n I > moved to PF the syntax from IPFILTER was closer to PF which made it easie= r > to migrate. > >> The statement "follow closely the syntax used in natd" is not >> particularly reassuring, since it doesn't declare that the syntax is >> identical, and (I am repeating myself, sorry), there is no syntax def >> in the man page. >> > [snip] >>> >>> NATD and IPFW work together. It's a little hard to explain in this form= at >>> so as Dan suggests, you should read the manpage on each. Also, do some >>> google searches and you will find many helpful articles. But take my wo= rd >>> for this, you can do exactly what you want with IPFW+NATD. There are >>> those who will probably promote PF as the firewall of choice as well. I= t >>> all depends on what you become familiar with. > > All trueness here. I have used all three: IPFW, IPFILTER, and PF. I use P= F > today, but any of the three will work just fine for essentially the same > purpose (mostly). For example, IPFW had dummynet for traffic-shaping whil= e > PF uses ALTQ for essentially the same purpose. > > Mostly it is just grokking the syntax for whichever of the three you choo= se. > The Handbook contains some content examples for getting started for IPFW = and > the PF docs can be found on the OpenBSD web site. Understand the syntax a= nd > you can shape the firewall however you choose. The various ruleset exampl= es > should probably not just be dropped in cut-and-paste style, but rather > dissected line by line for understanding and then make tweaks which confo= rm > to exactly your local requirements. And it _is_ some arcane stuff to be > sure, but stare at it long enough and it'll make sense eventually. =A0:-) > > -Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 09:49:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE521065670 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CF28FC0A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qgw4a-0000rs-3Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:40 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:40 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:50:23 -0400 Lines: 97 Message-ID: References: <20110711170729.GG6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310473165.58370.YahooMailRC@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110712160304.GI6611@dan.emsphone.com> <1310537140.18043.YahooMailRC@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall NAT inbound port-redirect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:49:42 -0000 OK - I'm confused. Could be all the top posting. ;-) testbed# man ipfw Formatting page, please wait...Done. IPFW(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual IPFW(8) NAME ipfw -- User interface for firewall, traffic shaper, packet scheduler, in-kernel NAT. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ [...] kernel config options: options IPFIREWALL_NAT #ipfw kernel nat support ^^^^^^^^ With this option you do not need userland natd and NAT stays in the kernel and keywords are in the IPFW ruleset. I did indeed mis-speak wrt to natd as the above was conceived in IPFW2 to supersede userland natd. Been about maybe 7 or 8 years since I used IPFW, so the memory is rusty. Michael Sierchio wrote: > Mike - > > You're confused. natd is still a userland process that works via > divert sockets. ipfirewall nat is an extension to ipfirewall (ipfw is > the userland control program to modify the rulesets, nat config, > tables, etc.). > > - Michael > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Michael Powell > wrote: >> Michael Sierchio wrote: >> >>> I'm familiar with natd since its appearance. I was unclear on the >>> ipfirewall nat syntax, since there is no syntax definition in the man >>> page. It's true the man page is already too large, but some examples >>> (somewhere) would be nice. Marshaling packets into userland and back >>> into the kernel makes natd much slower than kernel nat. >> >> This is no longer true as some while ago IPFW's NATD switched over to >> being kernel-based. A long time ago when NATD was still userland I >> switched to Darren Reed's IPFILTER for just this reason. >> >> The first thing this entailed was learning the IPFILTER syntax as it was >> somewhat different from IPFW. I made the adjustment and later I found >> when I moved to PF the syntax from IPFILTER was closer to PF which made >> it easier to migrate. >> >>> The statement "follow closely the syntax used in natd" is not >>> particularly reassuring, since it doesn't declare that the syntax is >>> identical, and (I am repeating myself, sorry), there is no syntax def >>> in the man page. >>> >> [snip] >>>> >>>> NATD and IPFW work together. It's a little hard to explain in this >>>> format so as Dan suggests, you should read the manpage on each. Also, >>>> do some google searches and you will find many helpful articles. But >>>> take my word for this, you can do exactly what you want with IPFW+NATD. >>>> There are those who will probably promote PF as the firewall of choice >>>> as well. It all depends on what you become familiar with. >> >> All trueness here. I have used all three: IPFW, IPFILTER, and PF. I use >> PF today, but any of the three will work just fine for essentially the >> same purpose (mostly). For example, IPFW had dummynet for traffic-shaping >> while PF uses ALTQ for essentially the same purpose. >> >> Mostly it is just grokking the syntax for whichever of the three you >> choose. The Handbook contains some content examples for getting started >> for IPFW and the PF docs can be found on the OpenBSD web site. Understand >> the syntax and you can shape the firewall however you choose. The various >> ruleset examples should probably not just be dropped in cut-and-paste >> style, but rather dissected line by line for understanding and then make >> tweaks which conform to exactly your local requirements. And it _is_ some >> arcane stuff to be sure, but stare at it long enough and it'll make sense >> eventually. :-) >> >> -Mike >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 13:28:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3617106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C828FC13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so1429779yxl.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.55.7 with SMTP id h7mr1203826agk.161.1310563688475; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.113.99.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f4sm3749069yhn.69.2011.07.13.06.28.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: "freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.org" Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:26:59 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201107131026.59401.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with PF reply-to X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:28:09 -0000 Hi; I have the following scenario. FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 19 19:53:59 BRT 2011 i386 I want to be able to connect to any of the 2 external IPs this machine has. ### pf.conf excerpt ext_if1 = sis0 (1M link. default gateway) ext_if2 = rl0 (2M link) aln_if = dc0 (Internal LAN) ext_gw1 = A.A.A.A ext_gw2 = B.B.B.B my_ext_ip1 = a.a.a.a my_ext_ip2 = b.b.b.b nat on $ext_if1 from any to any -> $my_ext_ip1 port 1024:65535 nat on $ext_if2 from any to any -> $my_ext_ip2 port 1024:65535 1) ----------------------------------------- # balance the load pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from \ $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out probability 70% pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from \ $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out 2) ----------------------------------------- # allow ssh on ext_ifs a)pass in log quick on $ext_if1 inet proto tcp from any to any port $SshPort \ flags S/SA modulate state (max 30, source-track rule, max-src-nodes 10,\ max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2, max-src-conn-rate 2/60, overload ) b)pass in log quick on $ext_if2 reply-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) inet proto tcp \ from any to any port $SshPort flags S/SA keep state (max 30, source-track \ rule, max-src-nodes 10, max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2, max-src-conn-rate\ 2/60, overload ) ( RULE 8 ) [snip][snip]...... 3) ----------------------------------------- pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to any pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to any Also tried: pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to any pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to any block log all ( RULE 163 ) ### end of pf.conf excerpt Everything under 1) works fine. Under 2), a) works, b) not working. When I try to connect to $SshPort through the 2M link (b.b.b.b). I connect to the server, but the return packet neither obeys the reply-to on rule b), nor matches any of the pass outs under 3), and goes straight to the block rule. as you can see bellow. [$]> tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 host 187.113.99.63 (my home IP) Packet arrives and matches rule b)/8 and should create a state; 00:00:00.000000 rule 8/0(match): pass in on rl0: 187.113.99.63.25806 > b.b.b.b.22: [|tcp] but... 00:00:00.000108 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.8947 > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] 00:00:03.000057 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.65060 > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] 00:00:03.199931 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..20213 > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] 00:00:03.199618 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..19748 > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] 00:00:03.200044 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..1600 > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] 00:00:03.199767 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..45513 > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] 00:00:06.205048 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..17925 > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] it tries to go back to me on the wrong interface (sis0 and NOT rl0), wrong ip (a.a.a.a and NOT b.b.b.b), and from several wrong port numbers, not port 22. Questions: 1) sshd is listening on *.22. I know that the default gateway is not on rl0 but isn't that what reply-to is supposed to beat? If I understood correctly, wasn't the reply-to supposed to make the packet go back throught the specified ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2)? 2) Wasn't a state created when the pass rule b)/8 matched? if so, where is it? Where am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any hints. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 15:47:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2659106567D for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A3A8FC22 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so7308916iwr.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:47:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Zk6K79aBNSHcnvD1QQODwaMFa6xEmdto3duNaBuCHZA=; b=MA9SFXhplNLXIEPUIwgG0VH0fxDnWvsLyWc/s/V2FU0pikAF5PzdEUfpg5cch87Xjz vEZqmDjhx5qoKGH6d+ZjcFDd08yi7jhZ29MEAYqWCpav8RtobZTVHrGYhZrAUU99YmAY j0KnvbG2PUF0JStwoO3V8lzZMJ7EM/w5+ajlI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.217.90 with SMTP id hl26mr1145149ibb.65.1310570486882; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.166.78 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Droid fonts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:47:54 -0000 It appears that the port "droid-fonts-ttf" has a few *.ttf files with bad checksum numbers. Anyone know about that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 17:20:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B50E106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59C2E8FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Jul 2011 17:20:36 -0000 Received: from dslb-092-076-077-144.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO michael-think) [92.76.77.144] by mail.gmx.net (mp051) with SMTP; 13 Jul 2011 19:20:36 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18KXKd5E2gKQA6Za0MBO7SIQs3HDY6EgL5NitdPZX Ans4YwCh5pvWOE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Arthur Barlow" References: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:20:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.50 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: Droid fonts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:20:39 -0000 Am 13.07.2011, 17:21 Uhr, schrieb Arthur Barlow : > It appears that the port "droid-fonts-ttf" has a few *.ttf files with > bad checksum numbers. Anyone know about that? Not true for a right-now-updated ports tree: => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSans-Bold.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSans.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSansArabic.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSansFallback.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSansFallbackLegacy.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSansHebrew.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSansJapanese.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSansMono.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSansThai.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSerif-Bold.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSerif-BoldItalic.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSerif-Italic.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for DroidSerif-Regular.ttf. => SHA256 Checksum OK for NOTICE. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 18:59:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64F8106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@colannino.org) Received: from mda3.es.uci.edu (mda3.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A158FC15 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xsmtp1.es.uci.edu (xsmtp1.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.131]) by mda3.es.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6DInnwX016181 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:49 -0700 Received: from [10.1.2.117] (75-92-72-230.los.clearwire-wmx.net [75.92.72.230] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by xsmtp1.es.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6DInkbb017657 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:48 -0700 X-UCInetID: jcolanni Message-ID: <4E1DE8D7.2050003@colannino.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:59 -0700 From: James Colannino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110705 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: CUPS and Windows Printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:59:51 -0000 Hey everyone, I've been Googling around, trying to figure out how to see Windows printers via CUPS on FreeBSD, but so far, all I've found are links describing how to share FreeBSD printers with Windows boxes. Can anyone tell me how I can connect to Windows printers via CUPS + Samba so that I can start getting some work done at the office? :) Thanks so much! James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 19:21:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6735A106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashavenue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF578FC13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwa20 with SMTP id 20so6795117bwa.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:21:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OL6QBp3eytSUVBddZ1NXvjEegNwF6qfDl4GCwEpYfvA=; b=hH3QoI50TuefAap2Ra168ginI0Ya8i1z2ZfgCYsL/I4IAnJ9+Oo36xYmdU6NSQmj7n oVwEVpxSYCEwvIqhnTCgsynVVGkTM+gwGfyB8eGolVZVcG3f1y3qBP5QdZBNc9tS9ywR qvt5whNFQut+CBPGGLZ7hK/Bbta9B8hX/xAcM= Received: by 10.204.233.14 with SMTP id jw14mr597350bkb.40.1310583476380; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (e6.hs-nb.de [195.37.133.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k13sm1714515bkd.25.2011.07.13.11.57.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:57:16 +0200 From: Philipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110713205716.ad2c747f.trashavenue@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DOSBox: whole screen turns black X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:21:10 -0000 Hello, I've installed DOSBox 0.74 from Ports on FreeBSD 8.2 STABLE. After starting DOSBox I get some weird graphical errors on the screen: short horizontal lines appear for less than a second, scattered on the whole screen. About 5 to 20 seconds later the screen turns black (dunno whether the monitor turns off) and after 2 seconds my desktop is back and it starts again. My graphics card is an Intel GMA 3000 (Q965) with xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_4. Any suggestions? Philipp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 21:11:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0FE1065670; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0838FC08; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so6251708vws.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:11:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TEJZtDom40kbUTObnK7Yh66h7W+5n5KiOJ88WH5LF/E=; b=guuqfBQrQBpvYN+Bevq+NSQEQ3NPyBH5b7/7jxuXnYGIINNmNAyWvC7OKgtdq/TcNF cT+QZdcM5d/H8b/8x0x2WWBhRZJE5q4EUmmhh/fTEECprDIiPa8l20gppSyzPB/reem+ uuWvIBH+MM8wZX43oY9SjXGB93JEO8U16Tyic= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.21.5 with SMTP id r5mr1723832vde.234.1310591477055; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.181.195 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:11:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.22 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:11:20 -0000 Hi, Packages for wine-fbsd64-1.3.22 have been uploaded to mediafire [1]. This is for those who experience regressions with wine-fbsd64-1.3.23, wine-fbsd64-1.3.24 will be forthcoming... To date there has been 606 downloads from mediafire. nVidia uses should rerun patch-wine-nvidia.sh after updating wine. Regards, David [1] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 21:14:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016FC1065676; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA7A8FC1B; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so6060789wwe.31 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:14:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=N3nC+01j0R/hxBVOkRMbGcKpEm3NKFa8JOTPD179Y0s=; b=MuaGKHcgfBvQaiDK0rUhVTUleyisRA1ZYecCJRyGL0OwMpuZAn91daxfnZYDtU0Evp uja2YKi2g6SJrGHhC7kuYVCR3vrRi/MPkf6AfDNQq7MrXA1v74w5xoNjWR4wEfifNyWY mtpgtUxhEIGP8UaO4fxvS448o3h9BcJGxx4Po= Received: by 10.216.63.17 with SMTP id z17mr5410039wec.98.1310591653196; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-11-93.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.135.11.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h22sm8354111wes.32.2011.07.13.14.14.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:14:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:14:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.6.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1362011.Opc3YZSBrW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201107132314.36114.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.24 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:14:15 -0000 --nextPart1362011.Opc3YZSBrW Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages for wine-fbsd64-1.3.24 have been uploaded to mediafire [1]. This does not contain XInput2 support (whereas wine-fbsd64-1.3.23 does). =20 To date there has been 609 downloads from mediafire. nVidia uses should rerun patch-wine-nvidia.sh after updating wine. Regards, David [1] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 --nextPart1362011.Opc3YZSBrW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk4eCrwACgkQUaaFgP9pFrLmpgCfRzEWvfolFQP5MYlTfT+DB1Dv IbsAnR/awYgU4k/kaUjlxI1EDQDXyCIh =qDLv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1362011.Opc3YZSBrW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 21:40:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32829106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3578FC1F for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so7581069iyb.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:40:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.84.67 with SMTP id i3mr1264167ibl.187.1310591824230; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.13.203 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Perl Libs in FreeBSD CPAN and Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:40:51 -0000 Hello, I generally use the CPAN shell mainly to get the latest version of CPAN modules but for modules that use XS I usually prefer using the port. Ports also seem to have pretty good versions of everything and I use these 2 mechanisms interchangeably. Anyway, my question is really to learn more on how these ports are maintained, etc. For example, in Debian Linux they have a Debian Perl policy, is there such a policy or something similar in FreeBSD so I can further read-up on the matter? Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 22:18:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37920106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.d.hamann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB1D8FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so6792337pzk.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:18:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:date:subject:to:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=bhLp1nkLtnaweB6urrscigC4sxRs7PqU07ZBbZSeB20=; b=fBIWch/HrK24F+OVULK6s2aDVcQRthPXBvRTq3QzoxJ0DEgyuveo+r5SlHwl7PVk5C BDl7+o+SKVK3IZuDkeMlcRlAGn2f0ZOERqiWIJbhQq1igPsZw1dFHlHmWi4vVkZA7U0J dQLdVD0QlNZKlpN0xvdgIioimOMIciqGASLsI= Received: by 10.68.41.168 with SMTP id g8mr2026071pbl.512.1310594047249; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (cvo-cr1-200-239.peak.org [69.59.200.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm6511425pba.59.2011.07.13.14.53.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:54:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Hamann Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:53:55 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:18:09 -0000 I've tried to install the teTeX port (for pdflatex, etc.) and keep = running into this error. I can't seem to find a solution on the web and I could really use the = help. freebsd-82-amd64# uname -a FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: = Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 = root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 freebsd-82-amd64# cd /usr/ports/print/teTeX freebsd-82-amd64# make install =3D=3D=3D> Installing for teTeX-3.0_4 =3D=3D=3D> teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: = /usr/local/share/texmf-local/ls-R - found =3D=3D=3D> teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: = /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/LICENSE.texmf - not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for = /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/LICENSE.texmf in = /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf =3D=3D=3D> teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: = /usr/local/share/texmf-local/ls-R - found =3D=3D=3D> teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: = /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/README - not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for = /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/README in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont =3D=3D=3D> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found =3D=3D=3D> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE =3D> cmps-unix.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. =3D> Attempting to fetch = http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles//cmps-unix.tar.gz fetch: http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz: Connection = refused =3D> Attempting to fetch = http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1//cmps-unix.tar.gz fetch: http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1/cmps-unix.tar.gz: size = mismatch: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 =3D> Attempting to fetch = ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles//cmps-unix.tar.gz fetch: = ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz: size = mismatch: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 =3D> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this =3D> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. Respectfully, Jeff. Jeff Hamann, PhD PO Box 1421 Corvallis, Oregon 97339-1421 541-754-2457 jeff.hamann[at]forestinformatics[dot]com jeff.d.hamann[at]gmail[dot]com http://www.forestinformatics.com http://forufus.blogspot.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_informatics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 22:31:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAB3106566C for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87228FC13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh7xO-0000Bl-Qb; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:31:13 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh7x3-0001t7-Er; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:30:41 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6DMUf8b037804; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:30:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6DMUfkw037803; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:30:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:30:41 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Jeff Hamann Message-ID: <20110713223041.GA37778@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Jeff Hamann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:31:23 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 02:53:55PM -0700, Jeff Hamann wrote: > I've tried to install the teTeX port (for pdflatex, etc.) and keep running into this error. > > I can't seem to find a solution on the web and I could really use the help. > > freebsd-82-amd64# uname -a > FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > freebsd-82-amd64# cd /usr/ports/print/teTeX > freebsd-82-amd64# make install > ===> Installing for teTeX-3.0_4 > ===> teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-local/ls-R - found > ===> teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/LICENSE.texmf - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/LICENSE.texmf in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf > ===> teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-local/ls-R - found > ===> teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/README - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/README in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE > => cmps-unix.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles//cmps-unix.tar.gz > fetch: http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz: Connection refused > => Attempting to fetch http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1//cmps-unix.tar.gz > fetch: http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1/cmps-unix.tar.gz: size mismatch: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles//cmps-unix.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz: size mismatch: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 > => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. YOur ports tree seems to be old: % pkg_info -xo teTeX Information for teTeX-3.0_5: Origin: print/teTeX Information for teTeX-base-3.0_22: Origin: print/teTeX-base Information for teTeX-texmf-3.0_8: Origin: print/teTeX-texmf print/cmpsfont has been replaced by print/cm-super: % pkg_info -xR cm-su Information for cm-super-0.3.4_3: Required by: teTeX-3.0_5 -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 22:49:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B73F1065675 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757FE8FC16 for ; 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Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640128FC15; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so3263013gxk.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.195.38 with SMTP id o26mr2384130yhn.505.1310597382700; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([186.212.247.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a47sm2135465yhj.52.2011.07.13.15.49.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:49:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: "freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.org" Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:48:33 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201107131026.59401.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201107131026.59401.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201107131948.34051.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with PF reply-to [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:49:44 -0000 On Wednesday 13 July 2011 10:26:59 Mario Lobo wrote: > Hi; > > I have the following scenario. > > FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 19 19:53:59 BRT 2011 > i386 > > I want to be able to connect to any of the 2 external IPs this machine has. > > ### pf.conf excerpt > > ext_if1 = sis0 (1M link. default gateway) > ext_if2 = rl0 (2M link) > aln_if = dc0 (Internal LAN) > > ext_gw1 = A.A.A.A > ext_gw2 = B.B.B.B > > my_ext_ip1 = a.a.a.a > my_ext_ip2 = b.b.b.b > > > nat on $ext_if1 from any to any -> $my_ext_ip1 port 1024:65535 > nat on $ext_if2 from any to any -> $my_ext_ip2 port 1024:65535 > > 1) ----------------------------------------- # balance the load > > pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from \ > $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out probability 70% > > pass in log quick on $aln_if route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from \ > $aln_if:network to any flags S/SA keep state tag to_out > > 2) ----------------------------------------- # allow ssh on ext_ifs > > a)pass in log quick on $ext_if1 inet proto tcp from any to any port > $SshPort \ flags S/SA modulate state (max 30, source-track rule, > max-src-nodes 10,\ max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2, max-src-conn-rate > 2/60, overload ) > > b)pass in log quick on $ext_if2 reply-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) inet proto tcp > \ from any to any port $SshPort flags S/SA keep state (max 30, > source-track \ rule, max-src-nodes 10, max-src-states 2, max-src-conn 2, > max-src-conn-rate\ 2/60, overload ) ( RULE 8 ) > > > [snip][snip]...... > > > 3) ----------------------------------------- > > pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to > any pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 > to any > > Also tried: > > pass out quick on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to > any pass out quick on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 > to any > > block log all ( RULE 163 ) > > > ### end of pf.conf excerpt > > > Everything under 1) works fine. > > Under 2), a) works, b) not working. > > When I try to connect to $SshPort through the 2M link (b.b.b.b). I connect > to the server, but the return packet neither obeys the reply-to on rule > b), nor matches any of the pass outs under 3), and goes straight to the > block rule. as you can see bellow. > > > [$]> tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 host 187.113.99.63 (my home IP) > > > Packet arrives and matches rule b)/8 and should create a state; > > 00:00:00.000000 rule 8/0(match): pass in on rl0: 187.113.99.63.25806 > > b.b.b.b.22: [|tcp] > > but... > > 00:00:00.000108 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.8947 > > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] > 00:00:03.000057 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a.65060 > > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] > 00:00:03.199931 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..20213 > > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] > 00:00:03.199618 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..19748 > > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] > 00:00:03.200044 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..1600 > > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] > 00:00:03.199767 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..45513 > > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] > 00:00:06.205048 rule 163/0(match): block out on sis0: a.a.a.a..17925 > > 187.113.99.63.25806: [|tcp] > > it tries to go back to me on the wrong interface (sis0 and NOT rl0), > wrong ip (a.a.a.a and NOT b.b.b.b), and from several wrong port numbers, > not port 22. > > Questions: > > 1) sshd is listening on *.22. I know that the default gateway is not on rl0 > but isn't that what reply-to is supposed to beat? If I understood > correctly, wasn't the reply-to supposed to make the packet go back > throught the specified ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2)? > > 2) Wasn't a state created when the pass rule b)/8 matched? if so, where is > it? > > Where am I doing wrong here? > > Thanks for any hints. Never mind ! I solved the problem after finding this very enlightening document: http://www.mmacleod.ca/blog/2011/06/source-based-routing-with-freebsd-using- multiple-routing-table/ I followed it and it all works beautifully now. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 23:40:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3426D1065677 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E748FC19 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so7664362iyb.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:40:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RGuj0U2wKDkPxrl/7Iv4QPT767e7WfPDIxgAHYDZmt0=; b=O0KDkuDt7TxfluFWaygjMTlKakToTSsBAzBFSQR/KCJDl6EYAHZ/Vihts3X62fKuJF W7eXPGh+PyRRbTHeHjNJHyYkZ0U9rPrX42CxJczeUGG4jpcmGBNPAEPrWqEViL+Jctjk YRecuIFDYs9ypzTvfVd8SeKlCbENqMQitLANs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.178.8 with SMTP id bk8mr1243151icb.97.1310600413218; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.166.74 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:40:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Jeff Hamann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:40:14 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Jeff Hamann wrot= e: > I've tried to install the teTeX port (for pdflatex, etc.) and keep runnin= g into this error. > > I can't seem to find a solution on the web and I could really use the hel= p. > > freebsd-82-amd64# uname -a > FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: = Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 =A0 =A0 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/us= r/src/sys/GENERIC =A0amd64 > freebsd-82-amd64# cd /usr/ports/print/teTeX > freebsd-82-amd64# make install > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Installing for teTeX-3.0_4 > =3D=3D=3D> =A0 teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-local/= ls-R - found > =3D=3D=3D> =A0 teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/L= ICENSE.texmf - not found > =3D=3D=3D> =A0 =A0Verifying install for /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/LICEN= SE.texmf in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf > =3D=3D=3D> =A0 teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-= local/ls-R - found > =3D=3D=3D> =A0 teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/fonts/= cmpsfont/README - not found > =3D=3D=3D> =A0 =A0Verifying install for /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/R= EADME in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > =3D=3D=3D> =A0License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE > =3D> cmps-unix.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > =3D> Attempting to fetch http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles//cmps-unix.= tar.gz > fetch: http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz: Connection = refused > =3D> Attempting to fetch http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1//cmps-un= ix.tar.gz > fetch: http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1/cmps-unix.tar.gz: size mis= match: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 > =3D> Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfile= s//cmps-unix.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz= : size mismatch: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 > =3D> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > =3D> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. > > > > Respectfully, > Jeff. > > @Jeff I would advise you to get TeXLive instead, but that is just me. You can install from TeXLive DVD, or go get a DVD with packages: http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ You can go here and get the lastest packages for amd64 here: http://files.bsdroot.lv/my/FreeBSD/CDs/ *Me* scratches my head when I see how some packages still depend on teTeX, I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive, but it has not happened :( Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 13 23:49:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA48106564A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBF88FC14 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6DNn5t8065303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6DNn5Zb065302; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19441; Wed, 13 Jul 11 16:37:22 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:37:51 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: trashavenue@gmail.com Message-Id: <4e1e8ebf.62Yd3qvZ4PbEXkLO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110713205716.ad2c747f.trashavenue@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20110713205716.ad2c747f.trashavenue@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOSBox: whole screen turns black X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:49:06 -0000 Philipp wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed DOSBox 0.74 from Ports on FreeBSD 8.2 STABLE. After > starting DOSBox I get some weird graphical errors on the screen: > short horizontal lines appear for less than a second, scattered > on the whole screen. About 5 to 20 seconds later the screen turns > black (dunno whether the monitor turns off) and after 2 seconds my > desktop is back and it starts again. > > My graphics card is an Intel GMA 3000 (Q965) with xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_4. It sure sounds as if the video signal coming out of the graphics card is beyond the monitor's range. That's not supposed to happen with recent xorg, unless the monitor is misreporting its capabilities when the graphics card interrogates it or something (related to DOSBox?) is issuing an xrandr for an unsupported mode. What kind of monitor? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 00:56:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E967106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A2A8FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.unitedinsong.com.au (abracadabra.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.80]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE055C22 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:47:33 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: AtMail Atmail Open 1.04 Message-ID: <19249.1310604453@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: X-Origin: 192.168.0.184 X-Atmail-Account: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:47:33 +1000 From: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:56:10 -0000 =20 Sorry, I hate to come to the list with such a stupid question. I followed up a thread from a couple of months ago regarding this chipset which is not fully supported yet- hardware resetting errors- and I'm trying to work out how to build this driver from head. Unfortunately, when I run the cvs commands suggested it can't seem to find it, and I'm wondering exactly what I'm missing. Network drops all the time, and won't handle any load, so assuming I only have amd64-8.2 base system utilities: CVSROOT=3Dpserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs cvs login cvs co ath cvs co ath_pci And downloading modules list doesn't show ath, if_ath, ath_pci, or anything with ath in it that is remotely related. As I understand it, cvs should be pulling from head by default right? So what am I missing? Or alternatively, how do I fix this wifi card- rebooting every time it drops is a PITA! :) Cheers ------------------------- Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 01:15:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D077C106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1208FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhAWX-0000UI-Qg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:15:06 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:15:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:15:29 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110714011529.GC2113@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <19249.1310604453@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19249.1310604453@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:15:35 -0000 --f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au on Thursday, 14 July 2011: > =20 > Sorry, I hate to come to the list with such a stupid question. I > followed up a thread from a couple of months ago regarding this > chipset which is not fully supported yet- hardware resetting errors- > and I'm trying to work out how to build this driver from head. > Unfortunately, when I run the cvs commands suggested it can't seem to > find it, and I'm wondering exactly what I'm missing. >=20 > Network drops all the time, and won't handle any load, so assuming I > only have amd64-8.2 base system utilities: >=20 > CVSROOT=3Dpserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs >=20 > cvs login >=20 > cvs co ath >=20 > cvs co ath_pci >=20 > And downloading modules list doesn't show ath, if_ath, ath_pci, or > anything with ath in it that is remotely related. > As I understand it, cvs should be pulling from head by default right? > So what am I missing? Or alternatively, how do I fix this wifi card- > rebooting every time it drops is a PITA! :) > Cheers >=20 > ------------------------- > Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" FWIW my ath 9285 is working fine on 8.2-STABLE. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOHkMxAAoJEIpckszW26+RsQ0H/AjN+w2qLuLo2S2JesTErKbH KUSfPjd8VuhJzCsGSUT9to0W/nNf4qOvBPqekjcvD8WomyvF4fvkdh7XW2OZhKoO Ox2r+vg1LPwmOkS3fZWPlYyC0V6TLAI5w2SqpMkHk1sLgHMkTN243+2bZ9Eikd2J vhf6PVLZoMyAmIdzNtmVlUvhEOUkmFHEQpxRGdrOYbbskwW4QPMaO1stSQi4VR4h XR1Bo3nZCSPiffya5h3O2x/nh6ybVqu1daHNCrkDq/BusSaRxPZ7i37AbEPUwYkG thkcLAx6VWET/ZVE2lesAt4UvOBtlIxExYFm7iGpjhO3z6zy4LBQmjjohjaMXI8= =SWPe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f0KYrhQ4vYSV2aJu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 01:27:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A3C106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EC38FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.unitedinsong.com.au (abracadabra.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.80]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31645C22; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:37:08 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: AtMail Atmail Open 1.04 Message-ID: <61738.1310607428@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: "Chip Camden" , X-Origin: 192.168.0.184 X-Atmail-Account: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:37:08 +1000 From: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:27:46 -0000 On Thu 14/07/11 11:15 AM , Chip Camden wrote:Quoth on Thursday, 14 July 2011: > =20 > Sorry, I hate to come to the list with such a stupid question. I > followed up a thread from a couple of months ago regarding this > chipset which is not fully supported yet- hardware resetting errors- > and I'm trying to work out how to build this driver from head. > Unfortunately, when I run the cvs commands suggested it can't seem to > find it, and I'm wondering exactly what I'm missing. >=20 > Network drops all the time, and won't handle any load, so assuming I > only have amd64-8.2 base system utilities: >=20 > CVSROOT=3Dpserver::/home/ncvs >=20 > cvs login >=20 > cvs co ath >=20 > cvs co ath_pci >=20 > And downloading modules list doesn't show ath, if_ath, ath_pci, or > anything with ath in it that is remotely related. > As I understand it, cvs should be pulling from head by default right? > So what am I missing? Or alternatively, how do I fix this wifi card- > rebooting every time it drops is a PITA! :) > Cheers >=20 > ------------------------- > Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ [3]" target=3D"_blank">http://atmail.org/ > _______________________________________________ > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions [5]" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questio= ns > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "" FWIW my ath 9285 is working fine on 8.2-STABLE. I'm running release, though. I'm not exactly cvs proficient, I prefer subversion- just installing it is a PITA atm- so how do I bring in the stable version of the driver? I'm assuming also, then, that I will have to recompile my kernel won't I? 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Belgium BE0859635972. abuse-en@netlog.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 01:40:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC71106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01588FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2001E15D; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:40:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6E1emaa004145; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:40:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:40:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Message-Id: <20110714034048.02abfaad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <61738.1310607428@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <61738.1310607428@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:40:52 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:37:08 +1000, freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: > I'm running release, though. I'm not exactly cvs proficient, I prefer > subversion- just installing it is a PITA atm- so how do I bring in the > stable version of the driver? Here's an approach that works quite well: First add to /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE=yes SUP=/usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS=-g -L 2 SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE=/etc/sup/stable.sup Then create the /etc/sup directory, and in it, create the file /etc/sup/stabe.sup with the following content: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all The setting RELENG_8 will bring you the latest 8-STABLE. Maybe you should replace the servers with something near your location for better speed. Then, as root: # cd /usr/src # make update and you've got the current sources. > I'm assuming also, then, that I will have to recompile my kernel won't > I? Of course, and kernel and world have to be in sync, so building world is also needed. See the instructions in the Makefile's comment section: # For individuals wanting to upgrade their sources (even if only a # delta of a few days): # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) # # See src/UPDATING `COMMON ITEMS' for more complete information. This is /usr/src/Makefile of course. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 01:52:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F2B106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6248FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.unitedinsong.com.au (abracadabra.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.80]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4B15C22; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:02:02 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: AtMail Atmail Open 1.04 Message-ID: <60375.1310608922@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: "Polytropon" , X-Origin: 192.168.0.184 X-Atmail-Account: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:02:02 +1000 From: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:52:40 -0000 On Thu 14/07/11 11:40 AM , Polytropon wrote:On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:37:08 +1000, wrote: > I'm running release, though. I'm not exactly cvs proficient, I prefer > subversion- just installing it is a PITA atm- so how do I bring in the > stable version of the driver? Here's an approach that works quite well: First add to /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE=3Dyes SUP=3D/usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS=3D-g -L 2 SUPHOST=3Dcvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE=3D/etc/sup/stable.sup Then create the /etc/sup directory, and in it, create the file /etc/sup/stabe.sup with the following content: *default host=3Dcvsup.freebsd.org *default base=3D/var/db *default prefix=3D/usr *default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all The setting RELENG_8 will bring you the latest 8-STABLE. Maybe you should replace the servers with something near your location for better speed. Then, as root: # cd /usr/src # make update and you've got the current sources. > I'm assuming also, then, that I will have to recompile my kernel won't > I? Of course, and kernel and world have to be in sync, so building world is also needed. See the instructions in the Makefile's comment section: # For individuals wanting to upgrade their sources (even if only a # delta of a few days): # # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) # # See src/UPDATING `COMMON ITEMS' for more complete information. This is /usr/src/Makefile of course. So are you saying I can't just grab the ath module? I'd rather stick to release, but I guess if I'm having to rebuild the kernel each update... What are the cons to using stable? I thought stable was still being worked on and shouldn't be used for production? I'm providing services to very green users so I'd like to stay close to reliable as possible- hence my addiction with the release versions. ------------------------- Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 02:26:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C609106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB5E8FC15 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDD63CEEA; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:26:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6E2Px1e004286; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:25:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:25:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Message-Id: <20110714042559.217d0d34.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <60375.1310608922@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <60375.1310608922@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:26:02 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:02:02 +1000, freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: > So are you saying I can't just grab the ath module? Depends. Maybe a newer version of the module requires a more recent version of the kernel, because a new interface or function was added... > I'd rather stick to release, but I guess if I'm having to rebuild the > kernel each update... You _can_ try to just compile (1st step) and load (2nd step) the module with the RELEASE kernel, but it's not guaranteed to work. Both steps may require updates in sources or in the running kernel as illustrated above. > What are the cons to using stable? > I thought > stable was still being worked on and shouldn't be used for production? The FreeBSD release branches in short: HEAD or CURRENT is the branch with active development. It may even happen that CURRENT of _now_ does not compile, but CURRENT of _2 hours later_ will. This is a branch where also experimental changes can be applied, and usually comes with lots of debugging. STABLE is suitable for desktop and production, but you should know what you're doing. This branch contains development that has been agreed about to be in the next release. RELEASE-pX is the security branch of a RELEASE. It contains the patchlevels that correspond to the security updates only. This is often recommended for production. RELEASE is the "finalized" release of a specific "fixed" version. Refer to the FreeBSD Handbook for a more detailed description. > I'm providing services to very green users so I'd like to stay close > to reliable as possible- hence my addiction with the release versions. As I said, STABLE is interesting if you need features that you won't get by following RELEASE-pX. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 03:59:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E3F1065676 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1F18FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203E03CF41; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:59:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6E3xW5u004571; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:59:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:59:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: James Colannino Message-Id: <20110714055931.28221157.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E1DE8D7.2050003@colannino.org> References: <4E1DE8D7.2050003@colannino.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CUPS and Windows Printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:59:36 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:59 -0700, James Colannino wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I've been Googling around, trying to figure out how to see Windows > printers via CUPS on FreeBSD, but so far, all I've found are links > describing how to share FreeBSD printers with Windows boxes. Can anyone > tell me how I can connect to Windows printers via CUPS + Samba so that I > can start getting some work done at the office? :) Thanks so much! Not specific to FreeBSD, but maybe this help you: Printing To Windows PCs http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/printing_to_windows.html Also read chapter 5.1 of this material. Obtained by a google search. :-) I can't give better advice as I'm not a "Windows" person, and I avoid using CUPS whenever possible (usually by using a network printer that doesn't need all this stuff), and due to lack of experience with MICROS~1 stuff I can't be fully sure that this is what you're searching for. The only thing that comes to my mind is that this seems to be a command line approach - so in relation of CUPS configuration mainly done through a web interface today, maybe you could also ask this question in a CUPS web forum? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 04:07:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41553106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFB38FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so7831059iyb.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:07:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sjX9r2C/xWFF+1ZHwTuUZi9En9Hodox51vTF8TXdokw=; b=sthPrxFp6LzjiPofTulCTpbQy9IYa5K4Uz8zQXBgGzqJWMMf5lSbaZdhwyDViyqDMH 2B0YWd/U5k+6y1QMad/ZafhW6KwJ5neu+vJGWMni9g8o7bP1/zGAG5AT4d5tUtRaxoun xQOPEcQ/GQHoVOIPbF3JeYX8dkp3sqOUgxuAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.159.131 with SMTP id l3mr2170044icx.298.1310616428955; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.166.74 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:07:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110714055931.28221157.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4E1DE8D7.2050003@colannino.org> <20110714055931.28221157.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:07:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: James Colannino , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CUPS and Windows Printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:07:10 -0000 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:59 -0700, James Colannino wrote: >> Hey everyone, >> >> I've been Googling around, trying to figure out how to see Windows >> printers via CUPS on FreeBSD, but so far, all I've found are links >> describing how to share FreeBSD printers with Windows boxes. =A0Can anyo= ne >> tell me how I can connect to Windows printers via CUPS + Samba so that I >> can start getting some work done at the office? :) =A0Thanks so much! > > Not specific to FreeBSD, but maybe this help you: > > Printing To Windows PCs > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/printing_to_wind= ows.html > > Also read chapter 5.1 of this material. > > Obtained by a google search. :-) I can't give better > advice as I'm not a "Windows" person, and I avoid > using CUPS whenever possible (usually by using a > network printer that doesn't need all this stuff), > and due to lack of experience with MICROS~1 stuff > I can't be fully sure that this is what you're > searching for. > > The only thing that comes to my mind is that this > seems to be a command line approach - so in relation > of CUPS configuration mainly done through a web > interface today, maybe you could also ask this > question in a CUPS web forum? > > > > > -- Polytropon, Usually, the web page to work with cups issues is http://localhost:631/ and make changes there if I am not mistaken. But this is after the access is there for the printer :) Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 05:19:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87749106576F for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@colannino.org) Received: from xsmtp1.es.uci.edu (xsmtp1.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706168FC12 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (69-12-176-48.dsl.static.sonic.net [69.12.176.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by xsmtp1.es.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6E5JZqs021885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:19:36 -0700 X-UCInetID: jcolanni Message-ID: <4E1E7C5D.6070805@colannino.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:19:25 -0700 From: James Colannino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110530 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E1DE8D7.2050003@colannino.org> <20110714055931.28221157.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110714055931.28221157.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CUPS and Windows Printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:19:36 -0000 On 07/13/11 20:59, Polytropon wrote: > Obtained by a google search. :-) I can't give better > advice as I'm not a "Windows" person, and I avoid > using CUPS whenever possible (usually by using a > network printer that doesn't need all this stuff), > and due to lack of experience with MICROS~1 stuff > I can't be fully sure that this is what you're > searching for. That looks like it might help. Thanks for the link. > The only thing that comes to my mind is that this > seems to be a command line approach - so in relation > of CUPS configuration mainly done through a web > interface today, maybe you could also ask this > question in a CUPS web forum? That would probably be a good idea as well... :) James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 06:51:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88096106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 06:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E990E8FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 06:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Jul 2011 06:24:26 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-232-028.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni.rostock.home) [88.72.232.28] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 14 Jul 2011 08:24:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19TR2dKwfNTexYk7WK7YwbUcVQ+2D5TTU314O+3S4 /x9zhsrPM0vDR3 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:24:24 +0200 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110714082424.69f8f51b3642a363bf2bf11b@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.22.1; x86_64-unknown-freebsd8.2) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__14_Jul_2011_08_24_24_+0200_Q3rGNGNySJPd6st8" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Droid fonts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 06:51:08 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__14_Jul_2011_08_24_24_+0200_Q3rGNGNySJPd6st8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0700 Arthur Barlow wrote: AB> It appears that the port "droid-fonts-ttf" has a few *.ttf files AB> with bad checksum numbers. Anyone know about that? I have the same problem once in a while due to download errors. Try rm -f /usr/ports/distfiles/Droid*.ttf and build the port again. This usually fixes it for me. Regards, Jens --=20 14. Heuert 2011, 08:23 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. --Signature=_Thu__14_Jul_2011_08_24_24_+0200_Q3rGNGNySJPd6st8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJOHouYAAoJED2+SXzzbciGI4YM/AivkKSPQte82PaDf2zTtgzm m81XpMoCLPzFEqb9whOMvCciD8coWhyIXovYr1N0B3PUlBQDLU7mmyTxHLAZb7Ea fL84BmSr2U+ifc1TScLBWxK9s8wsCDpDBBbMABwGrj4ah94wE5+YyqTecrSIMXKU IXJxXRhcxgM55mQNUBtby6Pc+/eqU8F1YTpQIvQ1Z4J4/eG3xXpuM/HlhnOnGyVp pmxZQN7g9kJIunuw+Hozi0UGPhTfOk5SxMPxBzTb5F/mablVwB4hisOKzoXHuRxW BUgE4eu9SKUF5c9/B8GzMlDFIWE6QHnVDgcq4gnY0umkZG8TKmvGBo8/1BrNCmMH RM7v4qFY4qz1QFgia1v5IIC8RdQtvV8q6WLB0n7zDhVVzB33CPolwBp1xj9q2QXR V8CfYp4DuIyO4RNeDw/6nDX7dYh2MHdx48rzkLebE5cMFwdst6o1qdFKYgcBaIpU ZNIXa5b0/KFBin+VVhAHetvGXXI4wIUfVqkCDRQwKXzF58n6Dnt232Co32PjvXrT hawJJ7uWkYhnnvGqV6Xj =uG+1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__14_Jul_2011_08_24_24_+0200_Q3rGNGNySJPd6st8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 07:06:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD156106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashavenue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5E98FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so3083111eyg.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:06:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YTjRG1M0rsw+w6r4bLzYPSsP9xIndBeMoNR5iwOan9o=; b=J9meW2tVhSrpbMPvEw0WqREALiHTzEoQUH6BMZhvJtRnicHBreWqYxKPwLfHWff4j8 hwo6EpBTMLGupt0ryKYcfcKJWhCnyl0ioPkKij/j8pRppKjQaK/SByfpL/XPHSxduI3i RDtzeroK4Xt32RLquee+FRWBwGKzPTEuhIiWc= Received: by 10.14.37.139 with SMTP id y11mr617971eea.239.1310627172969; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (e6.fh-nb.de [195.37.133.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z14sm2265510eef.47.2011.07.14.00.06.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:05:30 +0200 From: Philipp To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20110714090530.3dda6ba5.trashavenue@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4e1e8ebf.62Yd3qvZ4PbEXkLO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110713205716.ad2c747f.trashavenue@gmail.com> <4e1e8ebf.62Yd3qvZ4PbEXkLO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOSBox: whole screen turns black X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:06:14 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:37:51 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > It sure sounds as if the video signal coming out of the graphics > card is beyond the monitor's range. > > That's not supposed to happen with recent xorg, unless the monitor > is misreporting its capabilities when the graphics card interrogates > it or something (related to DOSBox?) is issuing an xrandr for an > unsupported mode. > > What kind of monitor? It's an Acer S221HQLBD connected via DVI-D (Dual Link). My Xorg is version 1.7.7. Maybe it's an issue with too small VRAM. I've limited VRAM in BIOS to 16 MB, because I've only 1 GB of RAM and the GMA 3000 doesn't own real VRAM. I'm going to proof it this afternoon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 07:16:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E4F1065670 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2873D8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:16:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 19069073 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:16:01 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p6E6G0AD046046 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:16:00 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p6E6G0pg046045 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:16:00 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:16:00 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110714061600.GA45797@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: OCI support in PHP is dead X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:16:06 -0000 Dear Colleagues, The databases/php5-oci8 port exists no more, and databases/php52-oci8 is marked as vulnerable. According to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/lang/php5/Makefile.ext#rev1.71 and ./configure --with-oci8=/usr/local/oracle8-client/ [dd] checking Oracle ORACLE_HOME install directory... /usr/local/oracle8-client/ checking ORACLE_HOME library validity... lib checking Oracle version... 8.1 configure: error: Oracle client libraries < 9.2 are not supported there is very little hope. Should I migrate the intranet sites to Linux/Solaris or what? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Do you perhaps know of some broker I could install to the Oracle servers to continue running PHP+Oracle client on FreeBSD? Does anyone run Oracle client on FreeBSD? What is your view of the future? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 09:43:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7B4106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4527F8FC19 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unhexhexium.infracaninophile.co.uk (unhexhexium.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6E9hcbD095950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:43:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p6E9hcbD095950 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1310636618; bh=W5W8tesDXqhBzUBZ4P1lMiDBIgi+7jU0pUoT6SGkwF8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E1EBA43.50508@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu ,=2014=20Jul=202011=2010:43:31=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Mac intosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/20110 624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-questions@ freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20OCI=20support=20in=20PHP=20is=20dead| References:=20<20110714061600.GA45797@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru>|In-R eply-To:=20<20110714061600.GA45797@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru>|X-Enigm ail-Version:=201.2|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3D pgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0 A=20boundary=3D"------------enigE0C6B32B68EE77C600EF3397"; b=VGuFrRmoenmsMVBIpvyuvTuXo+Y6ZahtMpGxDb2klvpqfmExOwyhS9nJ8om+6CU1w tVD0owdcsrATdaezUmbFuphhwjOqSIdZrmAMsXThVIagNdVtri04pirn/5zvimmNoO s+x3uZIkcrsaWYpFVecSjXsstsPla8JulKoPMfPs= Message-ID: <4E1EBA43.50508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:43:31 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110714061600.GA45797@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20110714061600.GA45797@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE0C6B32B68EE77C600EF3397" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, SPF_FAIL, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: OCI support in PHP is dead X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:43:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE0C6B32B68EE77C600EF3397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/07/2011 07:16, Victor Sudakov wrote: > The databases/php5-oci8 port exists no more, and databases/php52-oci8 > is marked as vulnerable. >=20 Oracle 8 is pretty obsolete now. Now, the only options for getting more up to date support are -- persuading Oracle to release eg. an Oracle Instant Client package for FreeBSD -- somehow being able to use the Linux client software under emulation. I've no idea what Oracle's response to the first option would be, but I suspect their response might well be that they won't get enough return to justify the cost of producing a FreeBSD native client. The second option looks pretty difficult to me -- making a PHP shared object that links to a Linux shlib but that is itself linked into various PHP applications. The future looks Postgresql shaped to me. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE0C6B32B68EE77C600EF3397 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4eukkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz0RACeKHJtO1vrY9ZhVgIR+EIkVeXz cQ4AoINmbED7CYaMbFFkg7SWqQR5oemE =Vvnu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE0C6B32B68EE77C600EF3397-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 10:15:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A45D1065677 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270E28FC12 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.4.6]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 5C16039837 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E1EC1C4.9010002@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:15:32 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110714061600.GA45797@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4E1EBA43.50508@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E1EBA43.50508@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig414D7066D34E8AFF95A4F8A9" Subject: Re: OCI support in PHP is dead X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:15:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig414D7066D34E8AFF95A4F8A9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14.07.2011 11:43, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/07/2011 07:16, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> The databases/php5-oci8 port exists no more, and databases/php52-oci8 >> is marked as vulnerable. >> >=20 > Oracle 8 is pretty obsolete now. Now, the only options for getting mor= e > up to date support are >=20 > -- persuading Oracle to release eg. an Oracle Instant Client package= > for FreeBSD >=20 > -- somehow being able to use the Linux client software under > emulation. >=20 > I've no idea what Oracle's response to the first option would be, but I= > suspect their response might well be that they won't get enough return > to justify the cost of producing a FreeBSD native client. I suspect getting oracle to create such a client would cost (per user) about half a cent less than replacing the oracle DB would. They're (in)famous for such calculations. > The second option looks pretty difficult to me -- making a PHP shared > object that links to a Linux shlib but that is itself linked into > various PHP applications. This one might be a bit cheaper. > The future looks Postgresql shaped to me. Or any other non-yacht-sponsoring DB. //Svein p.s. 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Sherratt" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk X-Autoreply: yes X-S0phie-Scan: No Subject: Unable to reply immediately Re: [WARNING: VIRUS REMOVED] Delivery reports about your e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:27:12 -0000 I shall be reading emails only very intermittently until August 7th, but will reply as soon as I can. If you have a query concerning the MA in Aegean Archaeology, please contact Kathryn Goldsack (k.goldsack@sheffield.ac.uk). Sue Sherratt -- Dr E.S. Sherratt Department of Archaeology University of Sheffield Northgate House West Street Sheffield S1 4ET http://www.archatlas.dept.shef.ac.uk/Home.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 11:10:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B491065672 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC18A8FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so135096vxg.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.22.232 with SMTP id h8mr2355270vdf.339.1310641828119; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt6sm96821vbb.8.2011.07.14.04.10.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RFDpS6xTwz2CG44 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:10:24 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110714071024.18baf099@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4E1DE8D7.2050003@colannino.org> References: <4E1DE8D7.2050003@colannino.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: CUPS and Windows Printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:10:29 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:49:59 -0700 James Colannino articulated: > Hey everyone, > > I've been Googling around, trying to figure out how to see Windows > printers via CUPS on FreeBSD, but so far, all I've found are links > describing how to share FreeBSD printers with Windows boxes. Can > anyone tell me how I can connect to Windows printers via CUPS + Samba > so that I can start getting some work done at the office? :) Thanks > so much! I have a wireless HP printer connected to both Windows and FreeBSD boxes. Unfortunately, at least as far as I could tell, there is no way to simply use the Windows' driver. I installed the "hplip" port and it all, after some experimentation, worked well. It is still not as easy as printing from a Windows box to a FreeBSD printer, but it does work. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 11:28:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36381065670 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9281B8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986F660; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:27:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jT1anrOpqUbn; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:27:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.laptop (snifi.laptop [10.0.10.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC27627; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:27:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:28:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.6.5; amd64; ; ) References: <60375.1310608922@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110714042559.217d0d34.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110714042559.217d0d34.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201107141328.00565.milu@dat.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:28:00 -0000 On czwartek, 14 lipca 2011 04:25:59 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:02:02 +1000, freebsd- questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: > > So are you saying I can't just grab the ath module? > > Depends. Maybe a newer version of the module requires a more > recent version of the kernel, because a new interface or > function was added... > > > I'd rather stick to release, but I guess if I'm having to rebuild the > > kernel each update... > > You _can_ try to just compile (1st step) and load (2nd step) > the module with the RELEASE kernel, but it's not guaranteed > to work. Both steps may require updates in sources or in the > running kernel as illustrated above. You may try to get ath driver from -HEAD and compile it with your RELENG_8 tree[1]. There are many fixes for this chipset in the -HEAD. The coming 9 will have it(I don't know the timeframe for the release though) [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-May/000224.html Maciej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 12:37:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D811106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@monarci.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCA88FC15 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhKry-0000MB-8M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:18:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: monarci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1310645898251-4586448.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Recurring ICMP Bad Checksum Warning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:37:58 -0000 I am currently running a company's FreeBSD web server and I am constantly receiving the ICMP Bad Checksum warning. It tells me that the severity is low, but I've read that it may be best to block such traffic. This advice comes from http://www.fortiguard.com/encyclopedia/vulnerability/icmp.bad.checksum.html My question is should I try to block this traffic, and if so, what is the best way? This is my first time managing a UNIX-based server and am really loving it, but still have a lot to learn. Thanks in advance. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Recurring-ICMP-Bad-Checksum-Warning-tp4586448p4586448.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 12:52:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956C5106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yilinjing2006@gmail.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757A08FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhL7u-0001f2-PX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:34:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:34:46 -0700 (PDT) From: jyl_2006 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1310646886784-4586491.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: when compile,gcc can not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:52:36 -0000 Anyone who encounter this problem? checking whether the complier (*gcc -L/usr/local/v6/lib*) works... no The gcc version is 4.2.1 20070719 .And if I complie a simple program such as hello,world. It works well,but when I compile mozilla,it shows the problme? Thanks in advance. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/when-compile-gcc-can-not-work-tp4586491p4586491.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 14:34:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5A3106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashavenue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A3D8FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so246990ewy.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:34:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F5c35MU9ml5Y8vyRXO0rNi7FEOmGdE2aPLM2l0jR8AQ=; b=E35SP+u1/hSvlPCm5Apt38ROsfieXpm+oK4AtNyN1bS0KgT+s9e4XbiA5Iv/lUMz/c rF0TAYw7Im0ZMuteT5S/m+B0qX9BCw70GV0eAGQ/chirwlWFFO/zazeYvF/kLxy5EHJo e5gDOd3TpnGAeeEhrjQHO3ZM2ODdktktPKcT4= Received: by 10.14.99.78 with SMTP id w54mr823663eef.18.1310654049652; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (e6.hs-nb.de [195.37.133.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h49sm211556eeh.8.2011.07.14.07.34.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:33:27 +0200 From: Philipp To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20110714163327.da269603.trashavenue@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4e1e8ebf.62Yd3qvZ4PbEXkLO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110713205716.ad2c747f.trashavenue@gmail.com> <4e1e8ebf.62Yd3qvZ4PbEXkLO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOSBox: whole screen turns black X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:34:11 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:37:51 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > It sure sounds as if the video signal coming out of the graphics > card is beyond the monitor's range. > > That's not supposed to happen with recent xorg, unless the monitor > is misreporting its capabilities when the graphics card interrogates > it or something (related to DOSBox?) is issuing an xrandr for an > unsupported mode. > > What kind of monitor? I changed the BIOS settings to fixed video memory allocation (128 MB) but it doesn't help. By the way: I had the same problem with the parole media player on Xfce 4.8 (but then moved to GNOME). Any further suggestions? Philipp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 15:52:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC42106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE4D8FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2825 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2011 15:52:22 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jul 2011 15:52:22 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A03B45C61; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:52:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: jyl_2006 References: <1310646886784-4586491.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:52:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1310646886784-4586491.post@n5.nabble.com> (jyl's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:34:46 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44hb6o3lmy.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: when compile,gcc can not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:52:23 -0000 jyl_2006 writes: > Anyone who encounter this problem? > checking whether the complier (*gcc -L/usr/local/v6/lib*) works... no > > The gcc version is 4.2.1 20070719 .And if I complie a simple program such as > hello,world. It works well,but when I compile mozilla,it shows the problme? Use the ports system; handling this sort of thing is exactly what it's there for. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 16:44:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B690F106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@gnix.co.uk) Received: from think.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0C28FC0C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from think.gnix.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by think.gnix.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6EG8G8e030179 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:08:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jpg@gnix.co.uk) Received: (from jpg@localhost) by think.gnix.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id p6EG8Gaq030178 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:08:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jpg@gnix.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: think.gnix.co.uk: jpg set sender to jpg@gnix.co.uk using -f Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:08:16 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.gnix.co.uk/~jpg/jpg-pubkey.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE X-URL: http://www.gnix.co.uk/~jpg/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:44:07 -0000 > I would advise you to get TeXLive instead, but that is just me. You > can install from TeXLive DVD, or go get a DVD with packages: I would second that. It comes comlete with FreeBSD binaries for i386 and amd64 in the 2010 release and installing it is really easy. > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the 2009 release when FreeBSD binaries were not included but now they are the installation is headache-free. jamie. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 16:55:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F40F106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D1F8FC16 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:55:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 19084807 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:52:48 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p6EFql3g057089 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:52:47 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p6EFqlOa057088 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:52:47 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:52:47 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110714155246.GA55927@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110714061600.GA45797@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4E1EBA43.50508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E1EBA43.50508@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: OCI support in PHP is dead X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:55:20 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > The databases/php5-oci8 port exists no more, and databases/php52-oci8 > > is marked as vulnerable. > > > > Oracle 8 is pretty obsolete now. Now, the only options for getting more > up to date support are > > -- persuading Oracle to release eg. an Oracle Instant Client package > for FreeBSD > > -- somehow being able to use the Linux client software under > emulation. > > I've no idea what Oracle's response to the first option would be, but I > suspect their response might well be that they won't get enough return > to justify the cost of producing a FreeBSD native client. > > The second option looks pretty difficult to me -- making a PHP shared > object that links to a Linux shlib but that is itself linked into > various PHP applications. I suspected that databases/linux-oracle-instantclient-basic is virtually useless. > > The future looks Postgresql shaped to me. > I don't believe so. Our in-house sites use Postgres, but sometimes they have to interact with commercial systems (ERP, NetID etc) and I don't envision commercial vendors moving from Oracle to Postgres any time soon. I even considered running sqlplus via ssh but this is too ugly and not compatible with PHP frameworks. Seems that FreeBSD has lost yet another niche in our company. Which is a real pity because Linux is a pain in the ass and Solaris is not free. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 16:59:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E62C106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372658FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:59:19 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LOC00HIV1U62550@asmtp028.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:58:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-14_05:2011-07-14, 2011-07-14, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107140133 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <1310645898251-4586448.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:58:53 -0700 Message-id: <7FEDA015-A789-469B-8D73-0115D1F323A9@mac.com> References: <1310645898251-4586448.post@n5.nabble.com> To: monarci X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recurring ICMP Bad Checksum Warning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:59:20 -0000 On Jul 14, 2011, at 5:18 AM, monarci wrote: > I am currently running a company's FreeBSD web server and I am constantly > receiving the ICMP Bad Checksum warning. You most likely have a NIC with hardware checksum capabilities; tcpdump sees outgoing packets before the hardware generates the checksums. You can double-check by sniffing the traffic from a laptop connected to a monitoring port of the switch, or put a hub in place for testing so that the laptop also receives the traffic. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 18:22:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E040106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F0E8FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6EI9QKa040516; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:09:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9ABAABA89; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:09:26 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jamie Paul Griffin Message-ID: <20110714180926.GA91458@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:22:32 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 05:08:16PM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > I would advise you to get TeXLive instead, but that is just me. You > > can install from TeXLive DVD, or go get a DVD with packages: > =20 > I would second that. It comes comlete with FreeBSD binaries for i386 and= amd64 in the 2010 release and installing it is really easy. >=20 > > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive TeXLive has its own configuration UI because it has a lot of options. It ev= en has its own package manager. I think that makes it a poor fit for the ports infrastructure. > I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the = 2009 release when FreeBSD binaries were not included but now they are the i= nstallation is headache-free. The only problem is that some ports that use *TeX require teTeX from ports. I've gotten around that by patching the port makefiles in question, = but I have to re-apply those patches every time those ports are updated. Not th= at big of a deal, but something to watch out for. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4fMNYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX14QCeKd7ejncEGZdidL7LmsMiXR/o X3EAnR0PI5JCf4vR2mgei2H8aF3E76l4 =2UvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 20:27:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273F1065675 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457B18FC12 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6EKNe2C048209 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:23:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6EKNeDS048208 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:23:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:23:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110714202332.GA48185@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: testing.....@ethic.thought.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:27:00 -0000 testing -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 21:22:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD0E106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from truneaux@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5F8D8FC1F for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Jul 2011 20:55:52 -0000 Received: from ppp-188-174-109-136.dynamic.mnet-online.de (EHLO [10.11.12.20]) [188.174.109.136] by mail.gmx.net (mp071) with SMTP; 14 Jul 2011 22:55:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1424262 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18n/MASl+MnzIxoLgNcjc4FCxZIdvmkLdXW7fpLxM cIN7gdVg930ped Message-ID: <4E1F57D8.7030108@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:55:52 +0200 From: CT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Boot from DVD fails on Dell Inspiron 8000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:22:33 -0000 Hi folks, I'm trying to do a fresh install on a quite old Dell Laptop Inspiron 8000. No matter what boot option I choose, the startup stops. If I choose option #5 verbose logging, I'm able to see a message reading: fdc0: output ready timeout There isn't even a floppy installed in the modular bay. I have a fix installed CD/RW drive and a modular DVD drive from which I boot the installation DVD. I tried to boot from a CD as well, but the effect is the same, so it looks like there is some problem in hardware probing. Any suggestions ? Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 21:58:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6A4106564A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562228FC08 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so472736qwc.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.81.146 with SMTP id x18mr2089341qck.157.1310680698452; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v4sm533912qca.16.2011.07.14.14.58.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RFWB01CsGz2CG44 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:58:15 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110714175815.536de2cf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> References: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:58:20 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:48:43 -0700 Gary Kline articulated: > testing What? Did you check this URL out: -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. 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Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> References: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/23.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:16:26 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:48:43 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > testing http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test About freebsd-test English (USA) If you need to do a test post, do it here. Thanks. Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 22:24:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6A9106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devsupport@mycryengine.com) Received: from istanbul.mycryengine.com (mycryengine.com [212.82.253.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0FA8FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apache by istanbul.mycryengine.com with local (Exim 4.73) (envelope-from ) id 1QhTvi-00044m-61 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:58:46 +0200 To: stas migunov Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:58:46 +0200 From: Crytek Knowledge Network Message-ID: <1ff505d56e6f13366da412c6e6a4c7ca@mycryengine.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer (phpmailer.codeworxtech.com) [version 2.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: CKN - Email Address Verification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:24:09 -0000 Dear stas migunov, This message confirms that we have received and are now processing your application for an account on mycryengine.com. 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Sincerely, Crytek Engine Licensing department From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 22:34:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D25106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810758FC18 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so626235wyg.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:34:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1QouuOdze40c6XH+jVJNqtPOv8fKvLJ7CApWKLW5Q94=; b=PRg5qIFXS0L5p8yhaXfJBhvaDfWL6AnkuUU1PepHFu+jA85yOc4cYuZNiQGjkR2J/J UjtPOptM8pcioGJKKaZAkcsvN1bXhgqW+wFwVvVTLDJEHrC45ZbyobMbBJK4ycE0/Z0i IO/gXn338yKqCF62o9KKmErlJTwff8g9Q1tTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.174.201 with SMTP id u9mr2449261wbz.53.1310681118757; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.146.138 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:05:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110714175815.536de2cf@scorpio> References: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> <20110714175815.536de2cf@scorpio> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:05:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:34:22 -0000 On 14 July 2011 23:58, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:48:43 -0700 > Gary Kline articulated: > > > testing > > What? > > Did you check this URL out: > > > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. > Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Our patience? :))) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 23:13:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096EF106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC1B8FC0A for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 962ECE80BD0; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:13:47 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bal?zs M?t?ffy Message-ID: <20110714231347.GB5825@thought.org> References: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> <20110714175815.536de2cf@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:13:49 -0000 Apologies to everyone. i've ben trying to get mail going between here to -questions fr 11 days and NOTHING seemd to ork.... i really didnt think this ould work. speciallly after ail to -test bouncedd: "not available" ..... have i found "the last bug"? On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:05:18AM +0200, Bal?zs M?t?ffy wrote: > Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:05:18 +0200 > From: Bal?zs M?t?ffy > Subject: Re: ghghg > To: FreeBSD > > On 14 July 2011 23:58, Jerry wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:48:43 -0700 > > Gary Kline articulated: > > > > > testing > > > > What? > > > > Did you check this URL out: > > > > > > -- > > Jerry ??? > > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net > > > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. > > Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. > > > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Our patience? > > :))) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 23:28:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE43E106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAD78FC15 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EAF267E5E4; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:34:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PPyHK69sNboi; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:33:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47C5C267E5E3; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:33:48 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20110714231347.GB5825@thought.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:28:10 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> <20110714175815.536de2cf@scorpio> <20110714231347.GB5825@thought.org> To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: Bal?zs M?t?ffy , FreeBSD Subject: Re: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:28:25 -0000 Maybe... or your keyboard is broken. :) On Jul 14, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Apologies to everyone. i've ben trying to get mail going > between here to -questions fr 11 days and NOTHING seemd to > ork.... i really didnt think this ould work. speciallly > after > ail to -test bouncedd: "not available" > > ..... > > have i found "the last bug"? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 23:48:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD03106564A; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505778FC17; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6ENmwCn098487 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6ENmwUn098486; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA23654; Thu, 14 Jul 11 16:32:50 PDT Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:33:17 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: trashavenue@gmail.com Message-Id: <4e1fdf2d.hJY6n9lIY7bvc87f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110713205716.ad2c747f.trashavenue@gmail.com> <4e1e8ebf.62Yd3qvZ4PbEXkLO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110714163327.da269603.trashavenue@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20110714163327.da269603.trashavenue@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOSBox: whole screen turns black X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:48:59 -0000 Adding emulation@ in hopes someone there will have an idea. emulation@ folks, please keep Philipp in the To: or Cc: since he may not be subscribed to emulation@. The original question is here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-July/231716.html Philipp wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:37:51 -0700 > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > It sure sounds as if the video signal coming out of the graphics > > card is beyond the monitor's range. > > > > That's not supposed to happen with recent xorg, unless the monitor > > is misreporting its capabilities when the graphics card interrogates > > it or something (related to DOSBox?) is issuing an xrandr for an > > unsupported mode. > > > > What kind of monitor? > > It's an Acer S221HQLBD connected via DVI-D (Dual Link). > My Xorg is version 1.7.7. > > Maybe it's an issue with too small VRAM. I've limited > VRAM in BIOS to 16 MB, because I've only 1 GB of RAM > and the GMA 3000 doesn't own real VRAM. I'm going to > proof it this afternoon. [subsequent message] > I changed the BIOS settings to fixed video memory > allocation (128 MB) but it doesn't help. > > By the way: I had the same problem with the parole > media player on Xfce 4.8 (but then moved to GNOME). > > Any further suggestions? Did the system memory size report near the top of the dmesg change when you changed the VRAM size? (I think it should have, since the VRAM should be off limits to all other uses, but I don't know the area well enough to be sure.) If it didn't, I suppose there may be some kind of weird conflict over memory usage. Other than that I am out of ideas. Maybe someone on emulation@ will know about interactions between it and the video subsystem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 23:31:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35971065672 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erman.zlfkr84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71628FC29 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so850576iyb.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:31:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oIQtXLGCTtCcTvueOjLL3EoE8oaYmsVvZ+6lj2o2xmA=; b=pzbNvGL87jjDE+jdxgh++stxMhIyVcXm7av9jjjVsjXYLxEX7FsCoL0yl70uEtNmzz fCNclT1pS1x3efaNOQDqdzAi5aRNgVFJRDyP1bXJj/chAAY41F6E2YLfE9L+LpLHAayn wKBy/VGuNA9z9+B3XNKAVHEjJSLywQStMlIhk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.29.129 with SMTP id r1mr2759267icc.360.1310684766976; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.180.4 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:06:06 +0300 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-9?B?RXJtYW4gWvxsZvxrYXJv8Gx1?= To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:53:17 +0000 Cc: Subject: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:31:43 -0000 Hi , I try to mount free bsd to Windows sharing folder. mount_smbs -I 10.0.0.x /10.0.0.x/share folder name /mnt/mount folder but i can't. mount_smbfs=unable open to connection syserr=connection refused samba installed. Please help , Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 23:55:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F25106566B for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054178FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 75D11E80BD0; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:55:15 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110714235515.GA6573@thought.org> References: <20110714044751.GA26028@thought.org> <20110714175815.536de2cf@scorpio> <20110714231347.GB5825@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Bal?zs M?t?ffy , FreeBSD Subject: Re: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:55:16 -0000 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 06:28:10PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:28:10 -0500 > From: Ryan Coleman > Subject: Re: ghghg > To: Gary Kline > Cc: Bal?zs M?t?ffy , FreeBSD > > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) > > Maybe... or your keyboard is broken. :) yes and no. night before last i was drinking coffee here and spilled the cup onto several keys of my 'clicky' keybd ... it was 90 bux... i really do ned the feeedack of the click. yeesterday a friend spent three or four trips doon th hill until i have a 10 dollar keybd..... a new one should be here in a weeek. [[[ and yes, NEVER AGAIN will iever drink anything hereat my desk. =_*never*_=]]]. ----see if this get sto the list..... > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Apologies to everyone. i've ben trying to get mail going > > between here to -questions fr 11 days and NOTHING seemd to > > ork.... i really didnt think this ould work. speciallly > > after > > ail to -test bouncedd: "not available" > > > > ..... > > > > have i found "the last bug"? > > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 00:26:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4167D1065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042628FC13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so420293gxk.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.145.13 with SMTP id s13mr2844806and.21.1310689613833; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.113.72.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9sm755241anv.30.2011.07.14.17.26.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:26:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:25:41 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201107142125.41950.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:26:55 -0000 On Thursday 14 July 2011 20:06:06 Erman Z=C3=BClf=C3=BCkaro=C4=9Flu wrote: > Hi , I try to mount free bsd to Windows sharing folder. > mount_smbs -I 10.0.0.x /10.0.0.x/share folder name /mnt/mount folder >=20 > but i can't. > mount_smbfs=3Dunable open to connection syserr=3Dconnection refused >=20 > samba installed. >=20 > Please help , >=20 > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Which windows version?=20 Is the folder shared properly? Win 7 is pretty rough on sharing folders. =2D-=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br =46reeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 00:42:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20CB106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70FD8FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680331D941; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:42:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6F0gUG3002923; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:42:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:42:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erman =?UTF-8?Q?Z=C3=BClf=C3=BCkaro=C4=9Flu?= Message-Id: <20110715024230.d510f57f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:42:34 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:06:06 +0300, Erman Zülfükaroğlu wrote: > Hi , I try to mount free bsd to Windows sharing folder. > mount_smbs -I 10.0.0.x /10.0.0.x/share folder name /mnt/mount folder Is this the full command? Seems to contain too many spaces... > but i can't. > mount_smbfs=unable open to connection syserr=connection refused Maybe you need tp specify user name and password for access? > samba installed. Do you have required settings in /etc/nsmb.conf, like workgroup name, host address or password? Also did you quote irregular characters (like spaces) in the directory name properly? See "man nsmb.conf" for details. Sorry I can't be more specific as I'm not a "Windows" person. That's why I'd like to mention that the correct term for a directory is "directory", not "folder" (which is the name of an arbitrary symbol representing a directory). :-) Here's an example of accessing a CIFS share on a "Windows" PC using FreeBSD: In /etc/nsmb.conf, we have: [default] workgroup=HARDLYWORKING [WINPC] addr=192.168.2.2 [WINPC:Administrator] password=TOPSECRET In /etc/fstab, the "DOS drive letters" of the "Windows" PC are represented as follows: //Administrator@WINPC/a$ /smb/a smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //Administrator@WINPC/c$ /smb/c smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //Administrator@WINPC/d$ /smb/d smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //Administrator@WINPC/e$ /smb/e smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //Administrator@WINPC/f$ /smb/f smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 Then the mount command can be performed like this: # mount /smb/c But as I said, I've not bothered with "Windows" so I can't tell you how to mount a CIFS share representing a subdirectory on a specific drive. I am also quite sure that using "Administrator" for accessing is a bad idea, but it's not _my_ idea - I just found this little example shown above in my binary garbage can. :-) See "man mount_smbfs" for details. Still I hope this gives you some help and further inspirations on what to read. PS. It's useful specifying a subject related to your question, not just "help". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 02:06:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967FB106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07408FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.unitedinsong.com.au (abracadabra.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.80]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BBF5C22; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:15:49 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: AtMail Atmail Open 1.04 Message-ID: <55924.1310696149@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: "Maciej Milewski" , , "Polytropon" X-Origin: 192.168.0.184 X-Atmail-Account: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:15:49 +1000 From: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:06:28 -0000 On Thu 14/07/11 9:28 PM , Maciej Milewski wrote:On czwartek, 14 lipca 2011 04:25:59 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:02:02 +1000, freebsd- wrote: > > So are you saying I can't just grab the ath module? >=20 > Depends. Maybe a newer version of the module requires a more > recent version of the kernel, because a new interface or > function was added... >=20 > > I'd rather stick to release, but I guess if I'm having to rebuild the > > kernel each update... >=20 > You _can_ try to just compile (1st step) and load (2nd step) > the module with the RELEASE kernel, but it's not guaranteed > to work. Both steps may require updates in sources or in the > running kernel as illustrated above. You may try to get ath driver from -HEAD and compile it with your RELENG_8=20 tree[1]. There are many fixes for this chipset in the -HEAD. The coming 9 will=20 have it(I don't know the timeframe for the release though) [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-May/000224.html [2]" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-= May/000224.html Ok, I tried that- I did look into running stable as well, something Polytropon mentioned which twigged and I thought I might go that way, but looking into it further it is still a development branch. I think I need a bit more stability for my users. I bit the bullet and built subversion (which I'm more comfortable with than cvs) and pulled down ath from head (specifically head/sys/dev/ath, head/sys/modules/ath, head/sys/modules/ath_pci - tried stable as well, but got the same result as now). I'm having trouble building though (if I need to switch to a different list let me know - just a little painful with no working network): I get some odd file not found errors on some includes (headers from ath_hal specifically), and when I fix that I get HAL_PHYERR_PARAM not defined errors which I can't quite figure out. A point in the right direction will do; right now I'm getting lost in the maze a bit. I'm going to keep trying to untangle this, but some assistance would be appreciated. Cheers ------------------------- Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ Links: ------ [2] http://webmail.unitedinsong.com.au/parse.php?redirect=3D Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B98106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34458FC18 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so477547gyf.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:30:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SB2Ota+gv0pdjhE6GAIK17/k6S6TO7ayiXwJh1y43Kw=; b=t1w6dE5OcaxPT0F4BGJIeInAUwW84hgz7RbJ42XdUtSYNM6FUhL1lxWXbpihIBtAiV gkG/hQzf0LbnoA1RTL1gPqBwWrq4lR1dFCaWOcaBLFV8JZsX5hqs3rWYeohuS+WlAKD7 usob7KoGgjQ0RUg77HIov8XEfEfPcAJdMj+LM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.201.230 with SMTP id b66mr3698801yho.239.1310698831815; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.110.40 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:00:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:30:45 -0000 I am setting a read only kiosk (it displays various web pages progmatically and has *NO OTHER* function) and security is not a concern because the hardware is locked away and need to find the most hands free way method of going from power on to full screen www/firefox.... is it sufficent to have a su to a non-root user and then run startx in /etc/rc(.local) [I have a custom /etc/rc so I do not need rc.local) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 03:54:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45026106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F5E68FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25969 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jul 2011 03:54:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2011 03:54:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Xsrz20aCtsL6DGl8MKiAKAaXDgaEvuo1E8ylR1jvIGlnfDjj0bkj0VpgKyneaiAf+2dt0U2WydOft7kGS9OObJpuF8BOi+uOYoUjllqlYitVpvl424VtTXiZjgVpDmwY; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhZTU-0000Zs-7d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:54:01 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:37:35 -0600 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:37:35 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:54:02 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:00:31PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I am setting a read only kiosk (it displays various web pages > progmatically and has *NO OTHER* function) and security is not a > concern because the hardware is locked away and need to find the most > hands free way method of going from power on to full screen > www/firefox.... is it sufficent to have a su to a non-root user and > then run startx in /etc/rc(.local) [I have a custom /etc/rc so I do > not need rc.local) I don't know the process for setting that up off the top of my head. Perhaps a minimal window manager with only one workspace and the browser executed in your .xinitrc file would do the trick. I seem to recall there is a way to turn off access to TTY consoles, too. I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? Would a more minimal (but still GUI) browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4ftf8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWaOwCfXf4M4UacTw96yqWrXQi+X98w 8acAoL+s9odpvsbp5nS0na/6wmeohjLo =r0SX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 04:01:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDA5106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14438FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299643CE71; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:01:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6F41oBr004396; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:01:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:01:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Aryeh Friedman Message-Id: <20110715060150.4b245fd6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:01:53 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:00:31 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I am setting a read only kiosk (it displays various web pages > progmatically and has *NO OTHER* function) and security is not a > concern because the hardware is locked away and need to find the most > hands free way method of going from power on to full screen > www/firefox.... is it sufficent to have a su to a non-root user and > then run startx in /etc/rc(.local) [I have a custom /etc/rc so I do > not need rc.local) Automated login for that user, then ~/xinitrc with no window manager, but exec as firefox (parameterized into fullscreen), and in case the the program crashes (and therefore quits X), re-execution of the whole process could be a way to do that. You don't need to start X in rc.local as this can be done by the "display" user (allow me to call it that way). For example, you put the following into /etc/ttys: ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty autodisplay" cons25 on secure The name "autodisplay" will now be used for the "TTY profile" will be used to allow auto-login for a specific user. Then you add the following to /etc/gettytab: autodisplay:\ :al=ffdisplay:tc=Pc: Put it after the "default" section. In this example "ffdisplay" (Firefox display user) is the name of the user that should be performing the functionality you want. Add the user "ffdisplay", and add to his ~/.login: [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx This will perform the "startx" command, which reads its initialization from ~/.xinitrc: exec firefox --geometry -other -switches Maybe you can check "firefox -help" for parameters that can help here. To put the "error loop" into this construct - which would in case of a Firefox crash return to the command line! -, you can easily construct a loop in the .login file around the "extended" startx command. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 04:38:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D640106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525128FC13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5C11DC54; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:38:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6F4csAl004562; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:38:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:38:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20110715063854.38368777.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> References: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:38:58 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:37:35 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:00:31PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > I am setting a read only kiosk (it displays various web pages > > progmatically and has *NO OTHER* function) and security is not a > > concern because the hardware is locked away and need to find the most > > hands free way method of going from power on to full screen > > www/firefox.... is it sufficent to have a su to a non-root user and > > then run startx in /etc/rc(.local) [I have a custom /etc/rc so I do > > not need rc.local) > > I don't know the process for setting that up off the top of my head. > Perhaps a minimal window manager with only one workspace and the browser > executed in your .xinitrc file would do the trick. I seem to recall > there is a way to turn off access to TTY consoles, too. No need for a window manager - the program itself should have control of the session, and if it's run in fullscreen, fine! You don't need a window manager anyway as you're not going to manage any windows - and therefore get rid of (in this case) useless title bars (if any). > I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? Would a more minimal (but still GUI) > browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? Maybe it's worth considering that in case the menu bar, navigation bar and all the other (mostly nonsense) bars of web browsers are not needed for the purpose described above. An example can be obtained by pressing PF11 in Opera. :-) Oh, and check out the "dillo" web browser - it's fast and simple and may be sufficient. From "dillo --help", you can see that it even supports a fullscreen mode. You can use this -f parameter together with -g for the geometry settings to make it as big as the screen, e. g. dillo -f -g 1024x768+0+0 /what/to/display.html But as I said, it depends on _what_ you actually want to display (in terms of HTML content). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 05:30:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BB9106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD11A8FC1D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yic13 with SMTP id 13so507232yic.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:30:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uBVAjn3WE8q23d6j3BhCAmXb7xJSD5DX7Y9dr8nfmpw=; b=lGf8oAITxArgBhqt+bJsx87XfOVnyyBUDzWNxjmjakYKI+wrYeqjgm52D2lVeQmrVT NA39tgJdUQZRSwQVdKwqGHLBREOxaPtVtXTE/bMTUzGAUOWedQ4j6vjXyuCopH4Ji163 2O5pho6uWPOr0PnAgzq3mgzXP5LtUYC3+D+wU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.187.7 with SMTP id x7mr4019043yhm.373.1310707833013; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.110.40 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:30:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110715063854.38368777.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> <20110715063854.38368777.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:30:34 -0000 >> I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? =A0Would a more minimal (but still G= UI) >> browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? > > Maybe it's worth considering that in case the menu bar, > navigation bar and all the other (mostly nonsense) bars > of web browsers are not needed for the purpose described > above. It is a client requirement. The client is replacing a windows based solution with FreeBSD and for what ever reasons all the sites that need to be displayed are specific to ff (the use features only found in it or IE 9). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 05:38:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A723E106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A0A8FC17 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6271E28A; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:38:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p6F5cJDx004898; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:38:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:38:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Aryeh Friedman Message-Id: <20110715073819.e15fba3d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> <20110715063854.38368777.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:38:22 -0000 On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:30:32 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > >> I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? =A0Would a more minimal (but still= GUI) > >> browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? > > > > Maybe it's worth considering that in case the menu bar, > > navigation bar and all the other (mostly nonsense) bars > > of web browsers are not needed for the purpose described > > above. >=20 > It is a client requirement. The client is replacing a windows based > solution with FreeBSD and for what ever reasons all the sites that > need to be displayed are specific to ff (the use features only found > in it or IE 9). Okay, understandable. In this case your choice is limited, but that shouldn't be a big problem. Just see how firefox can be brought into fullscreen mode, either by one of its own options, or by using the generic -geometry option as shown in the "dillo" example. firefox -width 1024 -height 768 But "firefox -help" doesn't show parameters for positioning, and also by pressing PF11 for "interactively entered fullscreen mode", the navigational elements keep being present. But maybe there's something you can do by configuration file, so getting rid of navigational bars should be possible too. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 05:40:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72E5106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3328FC1A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so501101gxk.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:40:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k5HbldWGKzfYgNiz6f1gxLCJ9ZsRiJ2Wp/vuIFaPEmY=; b=EqLbVwyvdeTeu6dp8OcRb6GoqMhusux1TQEoAm9lUnk4PWOtFy4+MpH2rakC1pO/z6 Yp9y+gqOXYrJQHOO0rwqEDaztsiRWtnf2nny2SjWvy0OaQCcprJnpUAqiBUtBQCf4MJI ATAUcQEfVVRkTc17TXzVJCBkUX/evyK6/qpsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.136.227 with SMTP id w63mr4203161yhi.507.1310708401738; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.110.40 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:40:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110715073819.e15fba3d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> <20110715063854.38368777.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110715073819.e15fba3d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:40:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:40:02 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:30:32 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> >> I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? =A0Would a more minimal (but stil= l GUI) >> >> browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? >> > >> > Maybe it's worth considering that in case the menu bar, >> > navigation bar and all the other (mostly nonsense) bars >> > of web browsers are not needed for the purpose described >> > above. >> >> It is a client requirement. =A0 =A0The client is replacing a windows bas= ed >> solution with FreeBSD and for what ever reasons all the sites that >> need to be displayed are specific to ff (the use features only found >> in it or IE 9). > > Okay, understandable. In this case your choice is limited, > but that shouldn't be a big problem. Just see how firefox > can be brought into fullscreen mode, either by one of its > own options, or by using the generic -geometry option as > shown in the "dillo" example. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0firefox -width 1024 -height 768 > > But "firefox -help" doesn't show parameters for positioning, > and also by pressing PF11 for "interactively entered fullscreen > mode", the navigational elements keep being present. But > maybe there's something you can do by configuration file, > so getting rid of navigational bars should be possible too. There are several extensions that do it already and if for some reason non-work it looks trivial to make one From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 07:52:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1231106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBDF8FC14 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2204DE63F8; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:52:52 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=2QABvxGPUxsL T60mP1rmCMY3EA0=; b=L0ebABPFNdcr3rBtkd2rA3shVkCaMvS/qZTUrhHTSo1/ m+b6FlNzXbRIDX8g8wuWPcj/ygDeslnXj4UUpH4ID3GQYhI5nMEiuTBQjqBzAmjj fo6LsPR9PMZdY1W3M9SXfGyx51/MjEYEFiqof1XdeFIznl1Pmy/G4xVP90lrKFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bal?zs M?t?ffy , FreeBSD Subject: Re: ghghg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:52:54 -0000 On 15/07/2011 00:13, Gary Kline wrote: > Apologies to everyone. i've ben trying to get mail going > between here to -questions fr 11 days and NOTHING seemd to > ork.... i really didnt think this ould work. speciallly > after > ail to -test bouncedd: "not available" The last email in the freebsd-test archives is from May 2010, so I think it's broken - which is rather unfortunate. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 08:03:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7042106567D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E538FC19 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdMz-0001Ne-Ac; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:03:33 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdMz-0004JU-6f; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:03:33 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6F83OhS018776; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:03:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6F83OiX018775; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:03:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:03:24 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Jamie Paul Griffin Message-ID: <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:03:35 -0000 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 05:08:16PM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > I would advise you to get TeXLive instead, but that is just me. You > > can install from TeXLive DVD, or go get a DVD with packages: > > I would second that. It comes comlete with FreeBSD binaries for i386 and amd64 in the 2010 release and installing it is really easy. > what about ia64, sparc64 and the rest? > > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive > > I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the 2009 release when FreeBSD binaries were not included but now they are the installation is headache-free. > What exactly is missing from teTeX? I use latex daily, and so far haven't found a package which is not already included as part of teTeX. Of course, my usage is specific to what I need, it's not exhaustive. If you like TeXLive and it works for you - great. However, the ports tree gives you smooth integration with multiple other ports, e.g. textproc/docproj-jadetex. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 09:46:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72750106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABBB8FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6F9lVOD006183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:47:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4E200C79.9030104@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:46:33 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au References: <55924.1310696149@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <55924.1310696149@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , Maciej Milewski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:46:40 -0000 On 15/07/2011 03:15, freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: > > On Thu 14/07/11 9:28 PM , Maciej Milewski wrote:On czwartek, 14 > lipca 2011 04:25:59 Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:02:02 +1000, freebsd- > wrote: > > > So are you saying I can't just grab the ath module? > > > > Depends. Maybe a newer version of the module requires a more > > recent version of the kernel, because a new interface or > > function was added... > > > > > I'd rather stick to release, but I guess if I'm having to rebuild > the > > > kernel each update... > > > > You _can_ try to just compile (1st step) and load (2nd step) > > the module with the RELEASE kernel, but it's not guaranteed > > to work. Both steps may require updates in sources or in the > > running kernel as illustrated above. > You may try to get ath driver from -HEAD and compile it with your > RELENG_8 > tree[1]. There are many fixes for this chipset in the -HEAD. The > coming 9 will > have it(I don't know the timeframe for the release though) > [1] > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-May/000224.html > [2]" > target="_blank">http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-May/000224.html > Ok, I tried that- I did look into running stable as well, something > Polytropon mentioned which twigged and I thought I might go that way, > but looking into it further it is still a development branch. I think > I need a bit more stability for my users. > > I bit the bullet and built subversion (which I'm more comfortable with > than cvs) and pulled down ath from head (specifically > head/sys/dev/ath, head/sys/modules/ath, head/sys/modules/ath_pci - > tried stable as well, but got the same result as now). I'm having > trouble building though (if I need to switch to a different list let > me know - just a little painful with no working network): I get some > odd file not found errors on some includes (headers from ath_hal > specifically), and when I fix that I get HAL_PHYERR_PARAM not defined > errors which I can't quite figure out. A point in the right direction > will do; right now I'm getting lost in the maze a bit. > > I'm going to keep trying to untangle this, but some assistance would > be appreciated. are you following the instructions from Adrian (currently the ath maintainer) here http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=23594 I do this myself and its working well. (atheros 9280 though) Vince > Cheers > ------------------------- > Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ > > Links: > ------ > [2] http://webmail.unitedinsong.com.au/parse.php?redirect= _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 12:44:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B253E106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: from na3sys009aog117.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog117.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF218FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yi0-f52.google.com ([209.85.218.52]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob117.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTiA2GjV/N1HRRWTgJa8r/Go1lHJpbb1U@postini.com; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:44:11 PDT Received: by mail-yi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 19so807413yie.11 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:44:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.181.234 with SMTP id l70mr4616826yhm.335.1310732452039; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.145.227 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:20:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jaime Kikpole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:44:11 -0000 I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in about 1.5 years. atlas:~>uname -mprs FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 What is the recommended way to upgrade it to something current? Should I upgrade it to the most recent 6.x and then to 7.x and then to 8.x? Or should I use a more direct route, upgrading it straight to the 8-RELEASE branch? I've been using the cvsup/make method of upgrades for years and only used freebsd-upgrade once. I'm not sure if either method can handle a 6.x to 8.x upgrade. I also have a bunch of ports in this server (e.g. apache, postfix, etc.) Once the OS is updated, should I just portupgrade them all? Thanks in advance, Jaime -- Network Administrator Cairo-Durham Central School District http://cns.cairodurham.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 13:38:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E31065672 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE7E8FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unhexhexium.infracaninophile.co.uk (unhexhexium.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6FDcSbW018397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:38:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p6FDcSbW018397 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1310737116; bh=YyBhlBMWtcGADWnJcZEcES1GFGQqmxg0uxeoJtvliXA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E2042CD.7020409@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2015=20Jul=202011=2014:38:21=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Upgrading=20very=20old=20installati on|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201. 2|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A =20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"- -----------enigFE04AD0F23A29BCD5AFE8FA1"; b=DStRcVjCPKLh5q40Wdgb52Enf/kq13bheVDY3IUREl/DcfO++Gbpc4bfeG1iuqXJi WKz5GW/xtmzBbh5N85t5GoBGXIpZxab4JLF+jcgOMRqeCpMXIRtLQUvba1QJ/+HjwG cD40n1r4hbtF6EpPRU5fnutw7P360hTYvaj5uTLg= Message-ID: <4E2042CD.7020409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:38:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFE04AD0F23A29BCD5AFE8FA1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:38:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFE04AD0F23A29BCD5AFE8FA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/07/2011 13:20, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in about 1.5 = years. >=20 > atlas:~>uname -mprs > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 >=20 > What is the recommended way to upgrade it to something current? > Should I upgrade it to the most recent 6.x and then to 7.x and then to > 8.x? Or should I use a more direct route, upgrading it straight to > the 8-RELEASE branch? You'll almost certainly find it quicker and less painful to just reinstall using an up to date version of FreeBSD. Personally, I'd go and buy a new hard drive for the machine, install the latest OS and applications on that and then copy over data etc. It helps if you can have both drives mounted in the same machine at once. There are variations on this theme -- for instance if your server has mirrored HDDs then you can split the mirror, re-install on one half, reconcile configurations, data, user accounts between the two halves and ultimately resynch the old drive to the new one. The big advantage of this sort of approach is that you get your new install up and running and tested before you need to commit to the potentially irreversible step of overwriting your last copy of the old on= e. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFE04AD0F23A29BCD5AFE8FA1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4gQtMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzmQACeI2gDhyf/fXTp8XsYTllJ9ZGk FBoAnReHoBJdIhoItX/Ac3PJb79jaOEo =/1KY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFE04AD0F23A29BCD5AFE8FA1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 13:49:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C978106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from ex-vmail03.lnh.mail.rcn.net (vmail03.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392F08FC13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2011 09:49:40 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id BER40307; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:49:39 -0400 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2011 09:49:39 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20000.17779.415256.829530@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:49:39 -0400 To: Jaime Kikpole In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:49:41 -0000 Jaime Kikpole writes: > I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in > about 1.5 years. > > atlas:~>uname -mprs > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 > > What is the recommended way to upgrade it to something current? > Should I upgrade it to the most recent 6.x and then to 7.x and > then to 8.x? Or should I use a more direct route, upgrading it > straight to the 8-RELEASE branch? There is a strong argument to be made for (re-)installing when moving across a major version boundary. Whan crossing more than one, the case becomes even more formidable. And installing to a new disk allows you to use the old one as a (hardware-enforced) read-only backup. The only two reasons I can think of for upgrading in place are a) you cannot afford or have no access to a new disk or b) you cannot make a reliable backup (which carries its own set of risks). Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 14:33:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF5E1065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F708FC1D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so1498152iyb.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=O5jk5T5L9R/Oz2Ee5k7WPBkG3cfP7re7Yhw/28mVSms=; b=TzXQRAKgLjGs283rDwetc6dMKtt72y8g2Eh0wHFcUR+6lJ+nK+YMGg7bZlpcC2SrJr O/kuvixK6wT8slZsJN11YOCxnVpjPsCuCyfv2MZXtN01QwIivLjmnggCNvVnzeYWidHc 1TOZmzneCp1Abj1H5YRFtxT7gkyxK3CqaO8rs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.159.131 with SMTP id l3mr4144630icx.298.1310740425600; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.166.74 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:33:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:33:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:33:46 -0000 >> > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive >> >> I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the 2009 release when FreeBSD binaries were not included but now they are the installation is headache-free. >> > > What exactly is missing from teTeX? Try this, get the source for a free college Algebra Book: http://www.stitz-zeager.com/Precalculus/Stitz_Zeager_Open_Source_Precalculus_files/SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip Use this script to generate the book: name it genAlgTrigBook chmod +x genAlgTrigBook and run $ ./genAlgTrigBook with in the SZPreCalc0715201 folder after extracting the zip file with command unzip SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip ==================================================== #!/bin/sh # change JPG to jpg since *nix systems are case sensitive for i in `find . -name "*JPG"` do mv "$i" "$(echo $i|sed 's/JPG/jpg/g')" done sleep 5; pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop sleep 2; for i in *.mp do mpost $i done sleep 5; pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop sleep 5; makeindex AlgTrigBook sleep 5; pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop ==================================================== Can you fully compile the book without errors? Let us know and if you can without adding a bunch of *.sty files then I rest my case. *For general small stuff it is OK, but for big projects one is really limited :( * Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 14:42:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC1D106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0028FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so1282799vws.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.32.233 with SMTP id m9mr3531426vdi.471.1310740927022; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id db1sm577275vdc.32.2011.07.15.07.42.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RFxSD40TPz2CG44 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:42:03 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110715104203.552992bd@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201107142125.41950.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <201107142125.41950.lobo@bsd.com.br> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:42:09 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:25:41 -0300 Mario Lobo articulated: > On Thursday 14 July 2011 20:06:06 Erman Z=C3=BClf=C3=BCkaro=C4=9Flu wrote: > > Hi , I try to mount free bsd to Windows sharing folder. > > mount_smbs -I 10.0.0.x /10.0.0.x/share folder name /mnt/mount > > folder > >=20 > > but i can't. > > mount_smbfs=3Dunable open to connection syserr=3Dconnection refused > >=20 > > samba installed. >=20 > Which windows version?=20 > Is the folder shared properly? Win 7 is pretty rough on sharing > folders. =46rom the Windows command line run: net share A list of all presently shared directories will be displayed. Make sure the one you want is listed. Making sure that the share exists, try this command substituting your own values. IE, replace "laptop" & "user" & "ShareName" with your data. Make sure the mount point does physically exist before running the command. mount_smbfs -I laptop -U user //user@laptop/ShareName /mnt I will most likely ask for your password. Obviously you will need it to proceed. You also might want to check your "/etc/hosts" file to be sure it is correct. You may need to use the "-W" option depending on how your system is configured. I would avoid the use of a This works on all versions of Windows I have tried/used since Win2K. Personally, I avoid the "nsmb.conf", "~/.nsmbrc" files as I consider them security threats. If you must use on, be sure to encrypt your password. See: NSMB.CONF(5) for details. --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 15:25:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449CC106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@InsightBB.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA578FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:25:18 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=WQv0epGoA/U3Wv7Ycfke4QT3TDweB4tbzARl60/71+A= c=1 sm=0 a=qGV6uSQ7kSsA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=z6GzXvnUod6s600mUaMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Y155h1DoS737AfrD/5xiRQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=FreeBSD@InsightBB.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=FreeBSD@InsightBB.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.user=FreeBSD; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain InsightBB.com does not designate 208.46.39.11 as permitted sender) Received: from [208.46.39.11] ([208.46.39.11:1380] helo=[192.168.2.3]) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id DC/37-04271-ADB502E4; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:25:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4E205BD7.7010903@InsightBB.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:25:11 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E2042CD.7020409@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E2042CD.7020409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:25:19 -0000 On 7/15/2011 9:38 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 15/07/2011 13:20, Jaime Kikpole wrote: >> I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in about 1.5 years. >> >> atlas:~>uname -mprs >> FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 >> >> What is the recommended way to upgrade it to something current? >> Should I upgrade it to the most recent 6.x and then to 7.x and then to >> 8.x? Or should I use a more direct route, upgrading it straight to >> the 8-RELEASE branch? > You'll almost certainly find it quicker and less painful to just > reinstall using an up to date version of FreeBSD. Personally, I'd go > and buy a new hard drive for the machine, install the latest OS and > applications on that and then copy over data etc. It helps if you can > have both drives mounted in the same machine at once. > > There are variations on this theme -- for instance if your server has > mirrored HDDs then you can split the mirror, re-install on one half, > reconcile configurations, data, user accounts between the two halves > and ultimately resynch the old drive to the new one. > > The big advantage of this sort of approach is that you get your new > install up and running and tested before you need to commit to the > potentially irreversible step of overwriting your last copy of the old one. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Excellent advice, Matt. You rock. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 15:31:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B5F1065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04168FC13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkMh-0003jS-2b; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:43 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkMg-0005kl-R7; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:42 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6FFVg6M069649; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6FFVgRu069648; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:42 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110715153142.GA69568@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Antonio Olivares , Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jamie Paul Griffin Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:31:45 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:33:45AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive > >> > >> I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the 2009 release when FreeBSD binaries were not included but now they are the installation is headache-free. > >> > > > > What exactly is missing from teTeX? > > Try this, get the source for a free college Algebra Book: > > http://www.stitz-zeager.com/Precalculus/Stitz_Zeager_Open_Source_Precalculus_files/SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip > > Use this script to generate the book: > > name it genAlgTrigBook > chmod +x genAlgTrigBook > and run > $ ./genAlgTrigBook > with in the SZPreCalc0715201 folder after extracting the zip file with > command unzip SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip > > ==================================================== > #!/bin/sh > > # change JPG to jpg since *nix systems are case sensitive > for i in `find . -name "*JPG"` > do > mv "$i" "$(echo $i|sed 's/JPG/jpg/g')" > done > sleep 5; > pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop > sleep 2; > for i in *.mp > do > mpost $i > done > sleep 5; > pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop > sleep 5; > makeindex AlgTrigBook > sleep 5; > pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop > ==================================================== > > Can you fully compile the book without errors? no my mpost ( /usr/local/bin/mpost was installed by package teTeX-base-3.0_22 mpost -version MetaPost 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.4) kpathsea version 3.5.4 ) doesn't seem to understand *.mp files generated: % mpost CartesianPlane This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.4) (CartesianPlane.mp (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/metapost/mfpic/grafbase.mp) (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/metapost/mfpic/dvipsnam.mp)) * (Please type a command or say `end') * -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 15:37:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD75106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.38.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 035D18FC13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9461 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jul 2011 15:37:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2011 15:37:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=XvIIkB0OR0rWLVFQdxC/Wks8ijcZS1K4vhkZ/Bn2p4KJYaaUiY/iZT1ohx3wypuTFt51fFcbtjqRGFQ6EV+hPAyfgCoRHekUazT5cwefRLHc4gg1f7uRh2h1839K1UjG; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkS1-0006ve-8r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:37:14 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:20:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:20:47 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110715152047.GA14131@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> <20110715063854.38368777.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110715073819.e15fba3d.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110715073819.e15fba3d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:37:15 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 07:38:19AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > But "firefox -help" doesn't show parameters for positioning, > and also by pressing PF11 for "interactively entered fullscreen > mode", the navigational elements keep being present. But > maybe there's something you can do by configuration file, > so getting rid of navigational bars should be possible too. Firefox has preferences that can be set to eliminate any unwanted toolbars, though I do not know off the top of my head of a means of making it impossible for a user to change the preferences back. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4gWs8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVxhgCgnSRU2RKLgqQ6aioWjQJLIvXo pBkAoIPQV+j2dWuiif01rt3sI/lfOZgE =e6Yk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 16:06:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4D61065673 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973C28FC14 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so727586yxl.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kklQyndpzm3J4VjEAgKtC/MT+olSgPpIy/euN5JtwYQ=; b=B7oXwqlwDacJDzTTPYjgQML78SLtJy/eodZFdzAtHs9D3QwzjM6VTetR0ZH/SWwfFT bFFqk8ymd30fk9BDT+Mk9XtgKhMthZmr/LuisAzjBN1yUXZudDfEK3a7Nuc1nBWpxT1f UKHDlx5I2iIehIQEo7fgkkhqA+HBsXF/5MFTQ= Received: by 10.91.123.15 with SMTP id a15mr3566642agn.75.1310746004512; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (c-98-212-201-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net [98.212.201.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7sm1405441anj.10.2011.07.15.09.06.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E20658E.2030309@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:06:38 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110715033735.GA11321@guilt.hydra> <20110715063854.38368777.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110715073819.e15fba3d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110715152047.GA14131@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110715152047.GA14131@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: boting straight into firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:06:45 -0000 On 7/15/2011 10:20 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 07:38:19AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> >> But "firefox -help" doesn't show parameters for positioning, >> and also by pressing PF11 for "interactively entered fullscreen >> mode", the navigational elements keep being present. But >> maybe there's something you can do by configuration file, >> so getting rid of navigational bars should be possible too. > > Firefox has preferences that can be set to eliminate any unwanted > toolbars, though I do not know off the top of my head of a means of > making it impossible for a user to change the preferences back. > Make the preference file read only, and after firefox has been used a while, restart it. If you go to 'about:config' you can see everything that's configurable. It won't all be documented, but you might find the tweaks you need. Use something like evilwm, or another minimalist window manager will help with positioning. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 16:28:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BF31065670 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashavenue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBC28FC15 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so996154ewy.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:28:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=00qGL4AjN1Rt9n4YbxKBZ8guVX4IQivgCbL3VSje3ow=; b=cxg0DXvycU2NSigCi6VbfXCq9Docb1XKkAiigwtiS/afP2ZScAlUwt6tC3s2aakJTO Ne9RuaIWeX9kypSzSbTaV+pKxaqSCw5Q384l5miLH2J7bHNlDMXeC7crxjmxayxo7K8l yOQv47/e6I8qjZfPLmHeXQw7iMTXZxsGJ/cy8= Received: by 10.14.96.16 with SMTP id q16mr1360817eef.35.1310747318229; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (e6.fh-nb.de [195.37.133.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h15sm827528eea.62.2011.07.15.09.28.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:27:53 +0200 From: Philipp To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20110715182753.55358e6b.trashavenue@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4e1fdf2d.hJY6n9lIY7bvc87f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110713205716.ad2c747f.trashavenue@gmail.com> <4e1e8ebf.62Yd3qvZ4PbEXkLO%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110714163327.da269603.trashavenue@gmail.com> <4e1fdf2d.hJY6n9lIY7bvc87f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOSBox: whole screen turns black X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:28:40 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:33:17 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Did the system memory size report near the top of the dmesg change > when you changed the VRAM size? (I think it should have, since the > VRAM should be off limits to all other uses, but I don't know the > area well enough to be sure.) If it didn't, I suppose there may be > some kind of weird conflict over memory usage. > > Other than that I am out of ideas. Maybe someone on emulation@ > will know about interactions between it and the video subsystem. Yes, system memory size changed, but playing around with the BIOS options doesn't help. :-/ #1 BIOS options: DVMT Graphics Memory: 120 MB DVMT 4.0 Mode: Fixed Pre-Allocated Memory Size: 1 MB [1 MB | 8 MB] IGD-Memory Size: 128 MB [128 MB | 256 MB] dmesg: real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) avail memory = 2045972480 (1951 MB) [...] vgapci0: port 0x3410-0x3417 mem 0xd0000000-0xd00fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: aperture size is 256M, detected 508k stolen memory vgapci1: at device 2.1 on pci0 [...] drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) info: [drm] AGP at 0xc0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 #2 BIOS options: DVMT Graphics Memory: 120 MB DVMT 4.0 Mode: DVMT Pre-Allocated Memory Size: 8 MB [1 MB | 8 MB] IGD-Memory Size: 128 MB [128 MB | 256 MB] dmesg: real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) avail memory = 2038890496 (1944 MB) [...] vgapci0: port 0x3410-0x3417 mem 0xd0000000-0xd00fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: aperture size is 256M, detected 7676k stolen memory vgapci1: at device 2.1 on pci0 [...] drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) info: [drm] AGP at 0xc0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 17:19:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01EA1065675 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601E38FC1D for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf7 with SMTP id 7so764292ywf.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CxGFvJ2x5MCzy14g7BfEcDE7PLiwyV9J/cFhWSWM2eE=; b=FEZ7xXvBG0FNu2cHfqFPZ53aJrG7d4ArQFghmCqldVQcavWVOtP9MxtqqqbBoUVdts Pb1Gfnny8NSzpoCBPLkkdWrkIH8tbQL1PPItYiRgDsUXDVz3drVj5Ag4bKwsZYwGukPq p8JuUbBB7lozEneJZVg75K2E/ApG/3MEjEmxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.170.7 with SMTP id o7mr5269169yhl.459.1310750344731; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.15 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E205BD7.7010903@InsightBB.com> References: <4E2042CD.7020409@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4E205BD7.7010903@InsightBB.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:19:04 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:19:05 -0000 On 15 July 2011 16:25, Steven Friedrich wrote: > On 7/15/2011 9:38 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 15/07/2011 13:20, Jaime Kikpole wrote: >> >>> I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in about 1.5 >>> years. >>> >>> atlas:~>uname -mprs >>> FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 >>> >>> What is the recommended way to upgrade it to something current? >>> Should I upgrade it to the most recent 6.x and then to 7.x and then to >>> 8.x? Or should I use a more direct route, upgrading it straight to >>> the 8-RELEASE branch? >>> >> You'll almost certainly find it quicker and less painful to just >> reinstall using an up to date version of FreeBSD. Personally, I'd go >> and buy a new hard drive for the machine, install the latest OS and >> applications on that and then copy over data etc. It helps if you can >> have both drives mounted in the same machine at once. >> >> There are variations on this theme -- for instance if your server has >> mirrored HDDs then you can split the mirror, re-install on one half, >> reconcile configurations, data, user accounts between the two halves >> and ultimately resynch the old drive to the new one. >> >> The big advantage of this sort of approach is that you get your new >> install up and running and tested before you need to commit to the >> potentially irreversible step of overwriting your last copy of the old >> one. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> Excellent advice, Matt. You rock. > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > You need to do your risk analysis to decide what route to take.The safe way is to do the 2nd drive method mentioned previously. If you decide to upgrade I would advise you to do the make world method. Its older and therefore more tested, and as you have said you are more familiar with it. I have done about 40+ upgrades from 6.x to 8.x. I did a step to 7 in the middle, and all worked fine. The only oddity I found was that when I went from 7.x to 8.x dangerously dedicated disks devices were presented differently. In 7.x you had ad0a, ad0b etc under /dev, but you also had ad0s1a, ad0s1b etc as well In 8.x you only had ones of the format ad0a. the oddity was the ad0s1a format ones being present prior to 8 being present, as I wouldn't have expected these. This was only and issue as whoever had built to box i inherited had used the ad0s1a format ones so on rebooting to 8.x we had issues. A quick edit of fstab fixed the issue though. Also make sure you have mergemaster configured proply as it will take a load of work out of the upgrades. Here is my rc for it. You may need to tune it a little cat /etc/mergemaster.rc AUTO_INSTALL=YES AUTO_UPGRADE=YES PRESERVE_FILES=yes PRESERVE_FILES_DIR=/var/mergemaster/preserved-files-`date +%y%m%d-%H%M%S` IGNORE_FILES="/etc/crontab /etc/fstab /etc/group /etc/hosts /etc/inetd.conf /etc/make.conf /etc/master.passwd /etc/motd /etc/newsyslog.conf /etc/ntp.conf /etc/ntp.drift /etc/profile /etc/rc.conf /etc/resolv.conf /etc/services /etc/shells /etc/syslog.conf /etc/ssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub /etc/passwd /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/zfs/exports /etc//namedb/named.conf /etc/periodic.conf /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts /etc/pf.conf /etc/sysctl.conf /etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf /etc/mail/aliases /etc/mail/mailer.conf /etc/remote" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 17:54:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE123106566C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7887D8FC19 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so1681095iwr.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:54:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rf30ubHgPNf1WpwVmpNETeNa6L81uR2McEXMg9lo/Kc=; b=EmPkwrinPWYeeCY+KQxaLp676pmIIFrQ6+kuNtS89deprHtn9bu8Ipcn5uoXtXCEVl HBbIbeVe1nXDdebC7oUe7JBu5J1jQYCkO1G73jJ8502QcjSCodT3ofd54J02PGDh9qqH bg6jBOgIV5IoqRx+98wBYM9vnCoJsLP9rLrbU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.146.193 with SMTP id k1mr3902697icv.231.1310752466792; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.166.74 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:54:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110715153142.GA69568@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715153142.GA69568@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:54:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:54:27 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Anton Shterenlikht w= rote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:33:45AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive >> >> >> >> I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with = the 2009 release when FreeBSD binaries were not included but now they are t= he installation is headache-free. >> >> >> > >> > What exactly is missing from teTeX? >> >> Try this, get the source for a free college Algebra Book: >> >> http://www.stitz-zeager.com/Precalculus/Stitz_Zeager_Open_Source_Precalc= ulus_files/SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip >> >> Use this script to generate the book: >> >> name it genAlgTrigBook >> chmod +x genAlgTrigBook >> and run >> $ ./genAlgTrigBook >> with in the SZPreCalc0715201 folder after extracting the zip file with >> command unzip SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> #!/bin/sh >> >> # change JPG to jpg since *nix systems are case sensitive >> for i in `find . -name "*JPG"` >> =A0do >> =A0mv "$i" "$(echo $i|sed 's/JPG/jpg/g')" >> =A0done >> sleep 5; >> pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=3Dnonstop >> sleep 2; >> for i in *.mp >> =A0 =A0do >> =A0 =A0 =A0 mpost $i >> =A0 =A0done >> sleep 5; >> pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=3Dnonstop >> sleep 5; >> makeindex AlgTrigBook >> sleep 5; >> pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=3Dnonstop >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> >> Can you fully compile the book without errors? > > no > > my mpost > > ( /usr/local/bin/mpost was installed by package teTeX-base-3.0_22 > =A0mpost -version > MetaPost 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.4) > kpathsea version 3.5.4 ) > > doesn't seem to understand *.mp files generated: > > % mpost CartesianPlane > This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.4) > (CartesianPlane.mp (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/metapost/mfpic/grafbase.m= p) > (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/metapost/mfpic/dvipsnam.mp)) > * > (Please type a command or say `end') > * > > -- Anton, This is what I mean. For regular things, TeTeX is fine, but for bigger projects one can't do without texlive. I encountered the same problems with default tetex, but installed TeXLive from DVD and I no longer have these problems :) But like Roland says, some ports depend on teTeX still and this is where I hope that developers find ways around them :) It took me a while to build evince, gnuplot and other math related ports without teTeX port. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 18:33:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD741065780 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A51A8FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6FIXTkm028162; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:33:29 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6FIXS2A028155; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:33:29 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B80D833C1F; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:33:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:33:28 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110715183328.GA53225@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715153142.GA69568@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:33:32 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 05:54:26PM +0000, Antonio Olivares wrote: > [snip] >=20 > Anton, >=20 > This is what I mean. For regular things, TeTeX is fine, but for > bigger projects one can't do without texlive. I encountered the same > problems with default tetex, but installed TeXLive from DVD and I no > longer have these problems :) >=20 > But like Roland says, some ports depend on teTeX still and this is > where I hope that developers find ways around them :) It took me a > while to build evince, gnuplot and other math related ports without > teTeX port. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Antonio What I did was install TeXLive but keep my teTeX installation. My $PATH is such that TeXLive binaries are picked up first but the teTeX installation satisfies those ports that depend on it. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4gh/cACgkQHduKvUAgeK7awgCfSopEc1LgoQ2nX980904i/F5x oNYAmgPZ3hfBmMvOn+CkldYWFItqUiMW =rXdE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 20:20:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCA51065676 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5079A8FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6FKJEWa023727; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:19:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0BF1BBA89; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:19:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:19:13 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Anton Shterenlikht , Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110715201913.GA12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:20:12 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:03:24AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 05:08:16PM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > I would advise you to get TeXLive instead, but that is just me. You > > > can install from TeXLive DVD, or go get a DVD with packages: > > =20 > > I would second that. It comes comlete with FreeBSD binaries for i386 a= nd amd64 in the 2010 release and installing it is really easy. > >=20 >=20 > what about ia64, sparc64 and the rest? Those platforms are relatively rare. To the best of my knowledge, only a handful of people (myself included) have requested FreeBSD binaries. And if the TeXLive developers don't have access to the hardware in question... =20 > What exactly is missing from teTeX? > I use latex daily, and so far haven't > found a package which is not already > included as part of teTeX. Of course, > my usage is specific to what I need, > it's not exhaustive. teTeX is missing (among others) luaTeX, a recent conTeXt, pdfjam, Xe(La)TeX, bibtex8, amstex, latexdiff, metafun, pdfnup.=20 A unified diff between the texmf trees from teTeX to TeXLive is 54150 lines, of which 8445 are deletions and 42939 are additions. Also, from the teTeX homepage: I (Thomas Esser) have decided not to make new releases of teTeX any more (May 2006). The information below might get out of date as time goes by. I suggest anybody interested in teTeX to join the TeX Live project. So teTeX is effectively EOL. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4goMEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX5OwCcDd6Op2nxjANsu9jm8/8G7Lga JXYAn01erZzDyt7tgv9khUVhKON9afbU =NYTT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 20:46:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5515D106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA4B8FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6FKkGIL031020; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:46:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C834ABA89; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:46:15 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jaime Kikpole Message-ID: <20110715204615.GB12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:46:55 -0000 --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 08:20:52AM -0400, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in about 1.5 ye= ars. >=20 > atlas:~>uname -mprs > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 > I've been using the cvsup/make method of upgrades for years and only > used freebsd-upgrade once. I'm not sure if either method can handle a > 6.x to 8.x upgrade. They are tested for upgrading to the next major version. Who knows if it wi= ll work across two major versions? Personally I wouldn't want to be the one ot try it out. :-)=20 > I also have a bunch of ports in this server (e.g. apache, postfix, > etc.) Once the OS is updated, should I just portupgrade them all? Doesn't work reliably across major version updates. When updating to a newer major version, the best way is to delete all ports (save their config files of course), scrub the /usr/local tree clean and then re-install them. Matthews advice of re-installing 8.2 on a second harddrive is probably the easiest and safest way to go.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4gpxcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXjNQCcDQV91B1ojYX9dtx9BUBP3cDG QBIAn3I+CmoYfB/sn1tmUzRrW85SWmIH =817C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 21:12:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250EC106566B for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E508FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so1423573wyg.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Vk9ztWt3xj1y9BKFHAk5wum5N86Cvdbdq9thmN5IXF4=; b=USy8K1ae5MZbhehzrYYiL17apR5nDOsHHkobvoxTjONgZV7zZE55ZKCDMEFfN3/J4M 0TsWsHJRwoHbREijtEqvr0GK/USt6Mg8Yd3V2oSgKs4zLa7GRcA11qF3rRYHznsTc/2V VE1yHzvhyjBWE79tN8LEDZz0GqPSNd9eLEwC4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.174.201 with SMTP id u9mr3386714wbz.53.1310764371443; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.146.138 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110715204615.GB12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20110715204615.GB12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:12:51 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:12:53 -0000 On 15 July 2011 22:46, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 08:20:52AM -0400, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > > I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in about 1.5 > years. > > > > atlas:~>uname -mprs > > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 > > > I've been using the cvsup/make method of upgrades for years and only > > used freebsd-upgrade once. I'm not sure if either method can handle a > > 6.x to 8.x upgrade. > > They are tested for upgrading to the next major version. Who knows if it > will > work across two major versions? Personally I wouldn't want to be the one ot > try it out. :-) > > > I also have a bunch of ports in this server (e.g. apache, postfix, > > etc.) Once the OS is updated, should I just portupgrade them all? > > Doesn't work reliably across major version updates. When updating to a > newer > major version, the best way is to delete all ports (save their config files > of course), scrub the /usr/local tree clean and then re-install them. > > Matthews advice of re-installing 8.2 on a second harddrive is probably the > easiest and safest way to go. > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > Hi, I would try to update the split mirror of the 6.4 to 8.2, I did manage to update couple of years back from Releng6 to Current 8 :). Did the usual make kernel / world stuff mergemaster prebuild in the middle and mergemaster after the update then I rebuilt all the ports. I recently did a 6.4-STABLE > 8.2-RELEASE-p2 migration to another server, but without using only some initial old config files from the old system because I had to build a better environment with other software for the same role (almost the same thing that Matt recommended you). For me this is a longer procedure then updating all the software and checking for maybe now deprecated options and other problems. So I think its down to your level of knowledge and personal preference ( whether you want to check what is to problem in case something goes wrong- I like this because I get to know the system and the inner workings in more detail). I personally don't like freebsd-update, and if your are new to the build from source way, you should really go with building up from scratch, then migrate. In case you want to update have a WORKING backup, and do a test run for the update (restore your 6.4 on a test machine and try to update it) before you bring down the productive system. Good luck! Regards, Balazs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 22:06:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9061065677 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Received: from Elmer.dco.penx.com (elmer.dco.penx.com [174.46.214.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8448FC12 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Elmer.dco.penx.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6FM6aWQ046697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:06:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:06:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@Elmer.dco.penx.com To: Brandon Gooch Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: venture37@geeklan.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Progress Report: OpenNMS under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:06:39 -0000 I have OpenNMS-1812 running under FreeBSD 8.2, specifically within a VirtualBox instance running FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 itself running under FreeBSD 8.2 amd64. There were a lot of issues. By "running" I mean: * A PostgreSQL database is built, running, and initialized, * OpenNMS starts and displays its web page, and * I can log into that web page with wonderfulness displayed on my browser. PostgreSQL and OpenNMS seem happy. However, I have not yet configured OpenNMS to talk to any devices. Issues included: * Sometimes you have to specify JAVA_HOME in the environment and other times you MUST NOT. * I didn't see any indication of what version of PostgreSQL to install so I mistakenly installed 9.1. I later backed down to 8.4. * OpenNMS requires UTF8 for PostgreSQL but the default install does not include it. (BTW, I rebuilt the database many times.) * I had to suck instrumentationLogReader-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar out of a Linux RPM because the OpenNMS install script could not download it from anywhere. * I had to set the Java proxies for my site. * Many OpenNMS files, such as .xml and .sql files, install with the execute bit set. I'm not sure if that is my fault or the install process' fault. Nonetheless, it shouldn't be that way. * Creation and permissions of PostgreSQL entities wasn't obvious to me. Where to change the OpenNMS files to alter their passwords also wasn't obvious. * I did not like the default installation point for the PostgreSQL database and moved it to /var/db. * I do not like where OpenNMS installs its log files. I prefer to create something like /var/log/nms. That said, for now I'm not going to touch them and hope they are nicely managed. Some of these issues stem from the fact that I am not a Java guy, I am not a PostgreSQL guy, I preferred my database not to be resident on my NMS, my network doesn't NAT for non-interfacing hosts (by design), and virtualization, which itself was a non-issue. BTW, this is one of two sites I plan to deploy OpenNMS under similar construct. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 22:14:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67101106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2715F8FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p6FMESYB028268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p6FMESXe028267; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00436; Fri, 15 Jul 11 15:05:25 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:05:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: frank@shute.org.uk Message-Id: <4e211c30.b+ny5+2P4mv+HMXY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715153142.GA69568@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715183328.GA53225@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110715183328.GA53225@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, olivares14031@gmail.com Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:14:30 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 05:54:26PM +0000, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > ... For regular things, TeTeX is fine, but for bigger projects > > one can't do without texlive. I encountered the same problems > > with default tetex, but installed TeXLive from DVD and I no > > longer have these problems :) > > > > But like Roland says, some ports depend on teTeX still and this > > is where I hope that developers find ways around them :) > > What I did was install TeXLive but keep my teTeX installation. My > $PATH is such that TeXLive binaries are picked up first but the > teTeX installation satisfies those ports that depend on it. which seems kind of hackish, and it doesn't solve the OP's problem of not being able to build teTeX on 8.2 amd64 (unless there's a prior amd64 package to fall back on). Presumably, if TeXLive is truly a drop-in, all a TeXLive "port" needs to do is drop it in and then register it so that other ports know it's available. There's a mechanism in portmaster -- and I imagine in other port-management tools also -- to replace a dependency on port "A" with a dependency on an alternative port "B". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 23:56:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852E6106564A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEDA8FC18 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhsEt-00035I-FE; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:56:11 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhsEt-0000Eq-4f; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:56:11 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6FNuAeK070960; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:56:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6FNuApo070959; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:56:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:56:10 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Antonio Olivares , Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jamie Paul Griffin Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:56:13 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:33:45AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive > >> > >> I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the 2009 release when FreeBSD binaries were not included but now they are the installation is headache-free. > >> > > > > What exactly is missing from teTeX? > > Try this, get the source for a free college Algebra Book: > > http://www.stitz-zeager.com/Precalculus/Stitz_Zeager_Open_Source_Precalculus_files/SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip > > Use this script to generate the book: > > name it genAlgTrigBook > chmod +x genAlgTrigBook > and run > $ ./genAlgTrigBook > with in the SZPreCalc0715201 folder after extracting the zip file with > command unzip SZPreCalc07152011SourceCode.zip > > ==================================================== > #!/bin/sh > > # change JPG to jpg since *nix systems are case sensitive > for i in `find . -name "*JPG"` > do > mv "$i" "$(echo $i|sed 's/JPG/jpg/g')" > done > sleep 5; > pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop > sleep 2; > for i in *.mp > do > mpost $i > done > sleep 5; > pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop > sleep 5; > makeindex AlgTrigBook > sleep 5; > pdflatex AlgTrigBook.tex -interaction=nonstop > ==================================================== > > Can you fully compile the book without errors? > > Let us know and if you can without adding a bunch of *.sty files then I got it after adding chapterfolder, and updating mfpic - just 2 packages, one missing and another too old. I'm on ia64 mainly and sometimes on sparc64, and I understand the consequences of my choice. Anyway, I love the FreeBSD ports system and hate to see something lacking there. I'll talk to hrs@ and see how the above 2 packages can be included/updated. For me this is a better route compared to having a binary bypassing the ports and available on only 2 arches. Will update if this is successful. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 00:05:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B780106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51038FC1A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhsNH-0006mo-Qf; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:04:57 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhsMk-0004K7-6J; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:04:18 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6G04HHN070986; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:04:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6G04HG4070985; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:04:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:04:17 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20110716000417.GB70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Roland Smith , Anton Shterenlikht , Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715201913.GA12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110715201913.GA12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jamie Paul Griffin Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:05:10 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:19:13PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:03:24AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 05:08:16PM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > I would advise you to get TeXLive instead, but that is just me. You > > > > can install from TeXLive DVD, or go get a DVD with packages: > > > > > > I would second that. It comes comlete with FreeBSD binaries for i386 and amd64 in the 2010 release and installing it is really easy. > > > > > > > what about ia64, sparc64 and the rest? > > Those platforms are relatively rare. To the best of my knowledge, only a > handful of people (myself included) have requested FreeBSD binaries. And if > the TeXLive developers don't have access to the hardware in question... which is why patching teTeX would be my preferred course of action in the short term. > > What exactly is missing from teTeX? > > I use latex daily, and so far haven't > > found a package which is not already > > included as part of teTeX. Of course, > > my usage is specific to what I need, > > it's not exhaustive. > > teTeX is missing (among others) luaTeX, a recent conTeXt, pdfjam, Xe(La)TeX, > bibtex8, amstex, latexdiff, metafun, pdfnup. > > A unified diff between the texmf trees from teTeX to TeXLive is 54150 lines, > of which 8445 are deletions and 42939 are additions. yes, I get your point. > > Also, from the teTeX homepage: > > I (Thomas Esser) have decided not to make new releases of teTeX any more > (May 2006). The information below might get out of date as time goes > by. I suggest anybody interested in teTeX to join the TeX Live project. > > So teTeX is effectively EOL. Yes, I'm aware of this, but texlive is not an option for me, unless and until it appears in the port tree. But I'm also aware of the "step up or shut up" reality, so I shut up. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 00:38:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6FC106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B4F8FC14 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.unitedinsong.com.au (abracadabra.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.80]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41325C22; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:47:57 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: AtMail Atmail Open 1.04 Message-ID: <24198.1310777277@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: "Vincent Hoffman" , X-Origin: 192.168.0.184 X-Atmail-Account: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:47:57 +1000 From: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , Maciej Milewski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED]Re: atheros 9285 wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:38:36 -0000 On Fri 15/07/11 7:46 PM , Vincent Hoffman wrote:On 15/07/2011 03:15, wrote: > > On Thu 14/07/11 9:28 PM , Maciej Milewski wrote:On czwartek, 14 > lipca 2011 04:25:59 Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:02:02 +1000, freebsd- > wrote: > > > So are you saying I can't just grab the ath module? > >=20 > > Depends. Maybe a newer version of the module requires a more > > recent version of the kernel, because a new interface or > > function was added... > >=20 > > > I'd rather stick to release, but I guess if I'm having to rebuild > the > > > kernel each update... > >=20 > > You _can_ try to just compile (1st step) and load (2nd step) > > the module with the RELEASE kernel, but it's not guaranteed > > to work. Both steps may require updates in sources or in the > > running kernel as illustrated above. > You may try to get ath driver from -HEAD and compile it with your > RELENG_8=20 > tree[1]. There are many fixes for this chipset in the -HEAD. The > coming 9 will=20 > have it(I don't know the timeframe for the release though) > [1] > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-May/000224.html [2]" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-= May/000224.html > [2]" > target=3D"_blank">http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-= May/000224.html [3]" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-= May/000224.html > Ok, I tried that- I did look into running stable as well, something > Polytropon mentioned which twigged and I thought I might go that way, > but looking into it further it is still a development branch. I think > I need a bit more stability for my users. > > I bit the bullet and built subversion (which I'm more comfortable with > than cvs) and pulled down ath from head (specifically > head/sys/dev/ath, head/sys/modules/ath, head/sys/modules/ath_pci - > tried stable as well, but got the same result as now). I'm having > trouble building though (if I need to switch to a different list let > me know - just a little painful with no working network): I get some > odd file not found errors on some includes (headers from ath_hal > specifically), and when I fix that I get HAL_PHYERR_PARAM not defined > errors which I can't quite figure out. A point in the right direction > will do; right now I'm getting lost in the maze a bit. > > I'm going to keep trying to untangle this, but some assistance would > be appreciated. are you following the instructions from Adrian (currently the ath maintainer) here http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D23594 [4]" target=3D"_blank">http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D23594 I do this myself and its working well. (atheros 9280 though) Arggh! I must be so tired... I completely missed the includes in those instructions- and worse yet: I forgot them myself! Thanks for the reminder :) Works like a dream now, anyway. 8.2 with head ath drivers (for reference). Cheers ------------------------- Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ Links: ------ [2] http://webmail.unitedinsong.com.au/parse.php?redirect=3D Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F02F106564A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058318FC08 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.54]) by cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20110716031349047.UTXM10885@cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:13:49 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pLPlkKcK38cN4Cv4YkVeTGGRYpmKez/IrX640LVKWnc= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=+L5dYfeubEW4PLvjDgtIXQ==:17 a=iEmNLD6W3RdqXoO4S8AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=+L5dYfeubEW4PLvjDgtIXQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.184.157.127 Received: from [76.184.157.127] ([76.184.157.127:63191] helo=[10.0.0.32]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 80/E1-20202-EA1012E4; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:12:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:12:46 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <4A4020F82CF8BB4C8C928EFC@UTD69340.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Problems with sshd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:50:43 -0000 I manage a small hobby website for some friends. The system has been running fine for quite a while, but suddenly the owners are having problems using WinSCP to transfer files to the server. The only thing that has changed recently is their internet service, and I'm inclined to think that's the cause. They are using a Verizon hotspot, whatever that is. (They live in the country, and options for internet service are limited.) But I'm the thorough sort, so I've enabled verbose logging and been googling for possible causes. One thing I've noticed is that their IP address changes quite frequently, but this snippet from the log shows that it also happens with the same IP. (I changed the username to protect their privacy.) Checking the archived logs, which go back several months, the "error: ssh_msg_send: write" entry appears occasionally whenever they login using WinSCP, so I assume it's some incompatibility about the program that rears its ugly head from time to time. I suspect it has no significance wrt this particular problem. Any thoughts on possible things to check for would be most welcome. Jul 15 07:19:33 www sshd[55490]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 07:30:03 www sshd[55529]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.94 port 40850 ssh2 Jul 15 07:30:03 www sshd[55544]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 07:39:56 www sshd[55564]: error: ssh_msg_send: write Jul 15 07:43:14 www sshd[55570]: error: ssh_msg_send: write Jul 15 07:46:39 www sshd[55596]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.94 port 40851 ssh2 Jul 15 07:46:40 www sshd[55608]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 07:49:31 www sshd[55610]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27437 ssh2 Jul 15 07:49:32 www sshd[55613]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 07:56:59 www sshd[55634]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27436 ssh2 Jul 15 07:57:00 www sshd[55637]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 08:26:15 www sshd[55751]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27440 ssh2 Jul 15 08:26:15 www sshd[55755]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 08:30:59 www sshd[55779]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 48390 ssh2 Jul 15 08:30:59 www sshd[55782]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 08:47:07 www sshd[55852]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27446 ssh2 Jul 15 08:47:07 www sshd[55855]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 09:01:26 www sshd[55897]: error: ssh_msg_send: write Jul 15 10:55:48 www sshd[56416]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27426 ssh2 Jul 15 10:55:49 www sshd[56419]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 11:44:02 www sshd[56579]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27449 ssh2 Jul 15 11:44:03 www sshd[56595]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 11:48:22 www sshd[56615]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27433 ssh2 Jul 15 11:48:22 www sshd[56618]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 11:51:24 www sshd[56624]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 51389 ssh2 Jul 15 11:51:24 www sshd[56627]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:04:22 www sshd[56717]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27430 ssh2 Jul 15 12:04:22 www sshd[56720]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:08:35 www sshd[56725]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 51383 ssh2 Jul 15 12:08:36 www sshd[56728]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:11:55 www sshd[56755]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 51361 ssh2 Jul 15 12:11:56 www sshd[56758]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:36:39 www sshd[56855]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 21268 ssh2 Jul 15 12:36:39 www sshd[56858]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:44:02 www sshd[56863]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27452 ssh2 Jul 15 12:44:02 www sshd[56879]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:49:20 www sshd[56904]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27454 ssh2 Jul 15 12:49:20 www sshd[56907]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:53:25 www sshd[56918]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27424 ssh2 Jul 15 12:53:25 www sshd[56921]: subsystem request for sftp Jul 15 12:57:42 www sshd[56951]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 166.248.39.172 port 27425 ssh2 Jul 15 12:57:42 www sshd[56954]: subsystem request for sftp Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** "When intelligence argues with stupidity and bias, intelligence is bound to lose; intelligence has limits, but stupidity and bias have none." 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The system has been running fine for quite a while, but suddenly the owners are having problems using WinSCP to transfer files to the server. The only thing that has changed recently is their internet service, and I'm inclined to think that's the cause. They are using a Verizon hotspot, whatever that is. (They live in the country, and options for internet service are limited.) mobile hotspot - cellphone data connection rebroadcast on local wifi (google mifi). I've used Verizon's. Quality of the connection depends on the quality of the cellphone signal, and can range from very good to "connected but unusable". > But I'm the thorough sort, so I've enabled verbose logging and been googling for possible causes. One thing I've noticed is that their IP address changes quite frequently, but this snippet from the log shows that it also happens with the same IP. (I changed the username to protect their privacy.) They will get a new IP every time the device disconnects/reconnects. If they aren't turning it off and back on, this is an indicator of the connection dropping completely. > Checking the archived logs, which go back several months, the "error: ssh_msg_send: write" entry appears occasionally whenever they login using WinSCP, so I assume it's some incompatibility about the program that rears its ugly head from time to time. I suspect it has no significance wrt this particular problem. We use winscp (occasionally over cellular) and get no such errors. I'm guessing the message means it couldn't write to the socket because the connection dropped. > Any thoughts on possible things to check for would be most welcome. I think it's an inadequate data connection. Sometimes repositioning the mifi will help -- try the other side of the house or near a window. -- Noel Jones From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 05:45:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E793D106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F878FC16 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8CAE5E808E3; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:45:57 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: before i ugrade from 7.3 to 8.x.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:45:59 -0000 guys, i ant to be as sure as possible that my network stuff and mail Works! how can i test my /etc/namedb/* 'stuff'? pretty sure mail works .. AND finally, i'm glad i stuck with FreeBSD and fer all your help. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 08:06:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D2A10656F4 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@prnet.org) Received: from jailfr.prnet.org (fr.prnet.org [188.165.216.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1498FC0A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (ip-213-135-240-128.static.luxdsl.pt.lu [213.135.240.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by jailfr.prnet.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6G7jCmm070704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:45:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@prnet.org) From: David Arendt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:44:18 +0200 Message-ID: <1310802258.12811.5.camel@server.intern.prnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: options used to compile packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:06:46 -0000 Hi, I want to compile packages from the ports collections with exactly the same options that have been used to compile the official packages from the official freebsd package collection. Is the var/db/ports directory used to compile the official freebsd package collection available somewhere ? If not, it would be very good to make it available as ports default options seem to be different from options used to compile official packages. Thanks in advance Bye, David Arendt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 08:14:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD00C106566C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@gnix.co.uk) Received: from think.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FADA8FC08 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from think.gnix.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by think.gnix.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6G8EZNc044635; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:14:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jpg@gnix.co.uk) Received: (from jpg@localhost) by think.gnix.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id p6G8EYt7044634; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:14:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jpg@gnix.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: think.gnix.co.uk: jpg set sender to jpg@gnix.co.uk using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:14:34 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: Roland Smith , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110716081434.GA44586@think.gnix.co.uk> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715201913.GA12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20110716000417.GB70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110716000417.GB70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gnix.co.uk/~jpg/jpg-pubkey.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE X-URL: http://www.gnix.co.uk/~jpg/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:14:49 -0000 > Yes, I'm aware of this, but texlive > is not an option for me, unless and > until it appears in the port tree. > But I'm also aware of the "step up > or shut up" reality, so I shut up. As Frank pointed out, It's common to have more than one TeX distribution installed. I have had TeTex and TeXlive installed for quite some time and indeed multiple versions of TeXlive can live together in /usr/local. Maybe that would work for you. Anyway it sounds as though you're happy with your setup which is the main thing. I'll probably only ever use a small subset of the TeXlive distribution, there is so much there. Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 08:44:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB7E106566C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDF68FC14 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1000953gyf.13 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:44:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PzLJI2M4eSsGWtoIR02CuLUzAn4SW4yNS6kvfQEqUJ8=; b=Ulwiq3wKNGTOsAallDvALWx9M9jYxUTZnb0yyu5OWe2nYVCSHGqUJHMrcmLEXEXT/6 9FrCvjGu2u44Xoc5cV0PmYfD6reL9L5ZXf7c8me7L7XfA7MC7L43QqIZ2Ctqkak1egsL nPvWNRhZZ6q893MQSia73qFNOYgzYKzPseHbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.137.140 with SMTP id y12mr1799683yhi.191.1310805896216; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.15 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:44:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110715204615.GB12391@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:44:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Upgrading very old installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:44:58 -0000 On 15 July 2011 22:12, Bal=E1zs M=E1t=E9ffy wrote: > On 15 July 2011 22:46, Roland Smith wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 08:20:52AM -0400, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > > > I'm running a FreeBSD 6.x server that hasn't been updated in about 1.= 5 > > years. > > > > > > atlas:~>uname -mprs > > > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p8 i386 i386 > > > > > I've been using the cvsup/make method of upgrades for years and only > > > used freebsd-upgrade once. I'm not sure if either method can handle = a > > > 6.x to 8.x upgrade. > > > > They are tested for upgrading to the next major version. Who knows if i= t > > will > > work across two major versions? Personally I wouldn't want to be the on= e > ot > > try it out. :-) > > > > > I also have a bunch of ports in this server (e.g. apache, postfix, > > > etc.) Once the OS is updated, should I just portupgrade them all? > > > > Doesn't work reliably across major version updates. When updating to a > > newer > > major version, the best way is to delete all ports (save their config > files > > of course), scrub the /usr/local tree clean and then re-install them. > > > > Matthews advice of re-installing 8.2 on a second harddrive is probably > the > > easiest and safest way to go. > > > > Roland > > -- > > R.F.Smith > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciate= d] > > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A72= 5) > > > > Hi, > > I would try to update the split mirror of the 6.4 to 8.2, I did manage to > update couple of years back from Releng6 to Current 8 :). > > Did the usual make kernel / world stuff mergemaster prebuild in the middl= e > and mergemaster after the update then I rebuilt all the ports. > > I recently did a 6.4-STABLE > 8.2-RELEASE-p2 migration to another server, > but without using only some initial old config files from the old system > because I had to build a better environment with other software for the > same > role (almost the same thing that Matt recommended you). For me this is a > longer procedure then updating all the software and checking for maybe no= w > deprecated options and other problems. > > So I think its down to your level of knowledge and personal preference ( > whether you want to check what is to problem in case something goes wrong= - > I > like this because I get to know the system and the inner workings in more > detail). I personally don't like freebsd-update, and if your are new to t= he > build from source way, you should really go with building up from scratch= , > then migrate. > > In case you want to update have a WORKING backup, and do a test run for t= he > update (restore your 6.4 on a test machine and try to update it) before y= ou > bring down the productive system. > > Good luck! > > Regards, > > Balazs. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Also one thing to watch with ports is thing like lang/php tend to jump a point release or a major release. Its kind of anoying in my opinion that lang/php can be php v4, 5.2 or 5.3 depending on what version of the os you run, when there is stall a php52 port in say 8-stable. Makes keeping consistent php versions more difficult. In my experience portmaster is better than portupgrade as it doesnt have to mess around with binary dbs of the ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 08:58:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E7F1065674 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yilinjing2006@gmail.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D038FC0A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qi0i0-0003MF-Vk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:58:48 -0700 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:58:48 -0700 (PDT) From: jyl_2006 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <44hb6o3lmy.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <1310646886784-4586491.post@n5.nabble.com> <44hb6o3lmy.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: when compile,gcc can not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:58:49 -0000 For some reason,I want to compile the source code of mozilla,so i can not use port. 2011/7/14 Lowell Gilbert-2 [via FreeBSD] < ml-node+4587204-2058148006-208373@n5.nabble.com> > jyl_2006 <[hidden email]> > writes: > > > Anyone who encounter this problem? > > checking whether the complier (*gcc -L/usr/local/v6/lib*) works... no > > > > The gcc version is 4.2.1 20070719 .And if I complie a simple program such > as > > hello,world. It works well,but when I compile mozilla,it shows the > problme? > > Use the ports system; handling this sort of thing is exactly what it's > there for. > _______________________________________________ > [hidden email] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[hidden email]" > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/when-compile-gcc-can-not-work-tp4586491p4587204.html > To unsubscribe from when compile,gcc can not work?, click here. > > -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/when-compile-gcc-can-not-work-tp4586491p4593425.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 09:27:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211FB106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56D08FC0C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6G9ROIj008222 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:27:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p6G9ROIj008222 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1310808444; bh=SeculRdKEOqdlsYEIHKCEEf4YCO+dnNSvXx7s4IvW38=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2016=20Jul=202011=2010:27:17=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20before=20i=20ugrade=20from=207.3=20 to=208.x....|References:=20<20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org>|In -Reply-To:=20<20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org>|X-Enigmail-Versi on:=201.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signe d=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-si gnature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig77FA538E59B85A92A8 4E07FB"; b=oxYaeK96Wvpgx/eLtfXuQdvBs5imYpj4xywwL4CrWzKIeM6uqY+xbiyoBSd62iXFv U4qxwwzF9pDICMpVhSzI3kQylHd4/D7sTOXznk3IoSDthrwuYsokW62ZeTdFsAvjCn VbSsbgZBGBJZCRrukFWIW+Hico1MyypobxHgBFA4= Message-ID: <4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:27:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig77FA538E59B85A92A84E07FB" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: before i ugrade from 7.3 to 8.x.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:27:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig77FA538E59B85A92A84E07FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/07/2011 06:45, Gary Kline wrote: > i ant to be as sure as possible that my network stuff and mail > Works! how can i test my /etc/namedb/* 'stuff'? pretty sure mail > works .. AND finally, i'm glad i stuck with FreeBSD and fer all your > help. http://dnscheck.iis.se/ is a good start. Given that you're posting to this list, I'd say mail and DNS is probably working. Maybe not completely perfect, but good enough. Beyond that, it's usually a matter of checking your logs and dealing with any problems as they come up. Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig77FA538E59B85A92A84E07FB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4hWXwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzsDACfb9gUJoQoEHXN+oTCMPq868Gj JzAAniP1qFrcc7trUD7WtL5jDRHcO+rW =jgKs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig77FA538E59B85A92A84E07FB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 09:36:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9691065675 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C7C8FC15 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p6G9atTj008362 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:36:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p6G9atTj008362 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1310809015; bh=CAzCIZ5KS6VrejuBxFKoS4c3F60iD15plKKNnMRh3G0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E215BB7.2040904@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2016=20Jul=202011=2010:36:55=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20options=20used=20to=20compile=20pac kages|References:=20<1310802258.12811.5.camel@server.intern.prnet. org>|In-Reply-To:=20<1310802258.12811.5.camel@server.intern.prnet. org>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Ty pe:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol= 3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------e nig32CA6D52A0508759FB3B579A"; b=NIwO1iXs/kIXhpuqwcr5XD2rA42Uz3mFu37DFLyc8pWfAkFXLCOxEjE7YrpKj6WLq HS7cd/kmPgEdTy2nox/kiC/MhyZTwYz+ilJ+RGUlVqS4DZMyshUTjudGNYC+IU7Vgl lUQG7Rytt89GGCJjtmpN4E6//xeru5dpkcvoMKC0= Message-ID: <4E215BB7.2040904@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:36:55 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1310802258.12811.5.camel@server.intern.prnet.org> In-Reply-To: <1310802258.12811.5.camel@server.intern.prnet.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig32CA6D52A0508759FB3B579A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: options used to compile packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:36:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig32CA6D52A0508759FB3B579A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/07/2011 08:44, David Arendt wrote: > I want to compile packages from the ports collections with exactly the > same options that have been used to compile the official packages from > the official freebsd package collection. Is the var/db/ports directory > used to compile the official freebsd package collection available > somewhere ? If not, it would be very good to make it available as ports= > default options seem to be different from options used to compile > official packages. Official packages are compiled using the default options in each port. What have you found where that is seemingly not the case? You can see the logs from the port build clusters on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig32CA6D52A0508759FB3B579A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4hW7cACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz8uQCePkhJfp/iTCcMtRi/oaGZcX85 gIQAn1fmPGnIZxLMD4YVg0VnYLkEm8JA =n8EK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig32CA6D52A0508759FB3B579A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 09:50:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101D21065670 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBE88FC12 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so1844807wwe.31 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=O1O+m/JLbQDquK2LhLcANrKQiDAyw4XeAp9McSrqVqI=; b=p5XIBqNW7h7LFnn+w5uVVOHa5XIHv1ySZwKPV5E3q3mKhMCvWtHca0QNEAOJru9An1 +2gRitJCG5sjglsTwH8JgZQpBHNfWwCNwpiK7/HEu79VneKNragYy62hJKGFpafAW7+b jG+Pmu5Gj8MeunXD22qTp0MZ5FOqXgpGZHim0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.197.139 with SMTP id ek11mr518362wbb.23.1310809809611; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.146.138 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org> <4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:50:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: before i ugrade from 7.3 to 8.x.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:50:11 -0000 On 16 July 2011 11:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 16/07/2011 06:45, Gary Kline wrote: > > i ant to be as sure as possible that my network stuff and mail > > Works! how can i test my /etc/namedb/* 'stuff'? pretty sure mail > > works .. AND finally, i'm glad i stuck with FreeBSD and fer all your > > help. > > http://dnscheck.iis.se/ is a good start. Given that you're posting to > this list, I'd say mail and DNS is probably working. Maybe not > completely perfect, but good enough. Beyond that, it's usually a matter > of checking your logs and dealing with any problems as they come up. > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > Hello, If you want to check your zones, you can use "dig @localhost DOMAINTOCHECK AXFR" for a local zone transfer from the dns server itself. Or from another server "dig @yourdnsserver domainname. Or from a windows server the command "nslookup", then in the nslookup query add your dns server as source like this: "server yourdnsserver" then your can check the domains by just typing them in. What exactly you want to check Gary? Best Regards, Balazs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 10:08:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CFC1065677 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@prnet.org) Received: from jailfr.prnet.org (fr.prnet.org [188.165.216.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33A18FC14 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (ip-213-135-240-128.static.luxdsl.pt.lu [213.135.240.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by jailfr.prnet.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6GA85MB079067 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:08:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@prnet.org) From: David Arendt To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4E215BB7.2040904@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <1310802258.12811.5.camel@server.intern.prnet.org> <4E215BB7.2040904@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:07:12 +0200 Message-ID: <1310810832.15451.5.camel@server.intern.prnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: options used to compile packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:08:44 -0000 Hi, well I don't actually now which package it was, but I compiled gdm (so it should be one of it's dependencies). A compilation resulted in a non working gdm (something with pam support not found on execution). Upon installing gdm and is dependencies from packages, everything worked correctly. Therefore I thought there might be other default options. I am sorry that I cannot be more precise, but I tried it 2 months ago, so I do not remember exactly. I think I will try it again from scratch with latest ports tree and give you more precise information. Bye, David Arendt On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 10:36 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 16/07/2011 08:44, David Arendt wrote: > > I want to compile packages from the ports collections with exactly the > > same options that have been used to compile the official packages from > > the official freebsd package collection. Is the var/db/ports directory > > used to compile the official freebsd package collection available > > somewhere ? If not, it would be very good to make it available as ports > > default options seem to be different from options used to compile > > official packages. > > Official packages are compiled using the default options in each port. > What have you found where that is seemingly not the case? > > You can see the logs from the port build clusters on > http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ > > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 12:24:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD111106564A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC1C8FC1A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so2274886iyb.13 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:24:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=CRC+X3inkLf4sKTV/+kaIco0RU1YD9qh/nV9njNYlVw=; b=PC7qrFmBHI7W9MQ19dRuDmEmeLjynrlnll0er9oPFLFQhMzzL9SngilOrftwHOQwO/ 6T8ANv5K2UJbGLFwsVB4ZMeOJZ3hyTb3lJcqglYDhP/ntCox2iLhv66U5QTUIJLzzs1u WXNJmt4JQ8Mf/g9z8hqCOcccvo7Me4vlwjCVU= Received: by 10.42.132.134 with SMTP id d6mr509600ict.38.1310817677921; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q13sm1530628ibi.9.2011.07.16.05.01.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:01:17 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:01:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p1; KDE/4.6.5; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201107160701.11555.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: gcc 4.4.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:24:46 -0000 Hi! I decided to switch from portmaster to portupgrade and pkddb -F show many stale dependencies on gcc-4.4.5.20110503 (lang/gcc44). Do I need to put new dependencies to gcc-4.5.4.20110630 or something else, please? For portmaster I put IGNOREMI+ line and it works but I don't know how to do with portupgrade. Thanks in advance. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 14:12:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0592A1065674 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44B8FC14 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so2329400iyb.13 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:12:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.49.131 with SMTP id v3mr4008908ibf.112.1310825565416; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.13.203 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:12:45 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZC4p88SJhS4e5KomREKtiL0b3iI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Multimedia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:12:48 -0000 I use FBSD mainly as a server so I don't have much experience on these devices for FBSD. This is just an idea, but maybe with this WinTV stuff you may have better luck using the Linux compatibility layer (take advantage of software and drivers for V4L UVC, etc.). People run stuff like Skype through that and it seems to work very well albeit a small performance penalty. Before going through the trouble, make sure it actually works in Linux and then figure out if the linuxator layer can actually help you out. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:28 AM, hasanhasanli Hasan wrote: > > > Hello everybody > I want to install driver > Hauppauge WinTV PVR 250 for FreeBSD. I try for any version FreeBSD 7.4 an= d 8.2. I can't install it. > I have done following: > In Kernel I added next lines: > > device=A0 bktr > device=A0 iicbus > device=A0 iicbb > device=A0 smbus > > then I have donecd > cp hcwPVRP2.sys /usr/ports/distfiles > cd /usr/ports/multimedia/pvr250/ > make install > > Port was installed ok didn't appeared any mistake. > But I can't see any driver cxm > # pciconf -lv > > > none2@pci0:4:5:0:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 class=3D0x040000 card=3D0x48010070 ch= ip=3D0x08034444 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 > =A0=A0=A0 vendor=A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D 'Conexant Inc (Was: Globespan, ICompress= ion Inc)' > =A0=A0=A0 device=A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D 'iTVC15/CX23415 MPEG Codec' > =A0=A0=A0 class=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D multimedia > =A0=A0=A0 subclass=A0=A0 =3D vidHelp me pleave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 18:33:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3E7106564A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivwcorporation.matevz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB0E8FC0C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1107407gyf.13 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Aw9Vjl5sTaqfjBVkV9yX/NerRHe1NWROaJTpSxkaJOc=; b=S8dgRcl846D2DrjMrDel259LqAsm2yW0uaQtgKobyIRNz/8IjiIzQJ+upbkr7FcDFy aj0QRlNYVWMU7AEkfVCQMbKPHLJLTmGHUNwliC0boPzKP/Q9QkQcj2NbtrZA5E9dvRUS gaqpG6w1y2mKhIy6joroPYhAstKDni+L7z2OE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.121.16 with SMTP id y16mr4623246agm.135.1310839488371; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.49.3 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:04:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?TWF0ZXbFviBNYXJrb3ZpxI0=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems with the Asus P8h61 -m pro motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:33:13 -0000 Hy! I just installed the FreeBSD 8.2 on my computer, but unfortunately my integrated network card was not recognised. Only the loopback and plip (or something like that) interfaces are present in the sysinstall / ifconfig -a= . I have the Asus P8h61 -m pro motherboard. I wanted to configure this computer to take part in boinc projects (like einstein@home, in the freebsd group, of course :) ), but without a working internet connection, I am not able to do this. By the way, does FreeBSD support CUDA? I bought a CUDA graphics card and it would be useful for BOINC projects. Thank you for you answers and your time, Matev=C5=BE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 19:34:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECD6106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@user-mode.org) Received: from h1841551.stratoserver.net (nemesis.user-mode.org [81.169.165.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8578FC1D for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-mode.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h1841551.stratoserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E53A22CC307; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:18:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:18:23 +0200 From: Christian Barthel To: Jeff Hamann Message-ID: <20110716191823.GA20222@user-mode.org> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: "http://bc.user-mode.org/barthelc.asc" X-OS: GNU/Linux User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:34:09 -0000 Hello, I've not really followed this message but I ran (nearly) into the same problem. I also need latex! But I don't want to use tetex because I am used to texlive. So, I downloaded the texlive ISO Image and installed it with the included script: http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-iso.html The installation works fine (my desktop pc, FreeBSD 8.1, AMD64) and I am able to use all tex features (pdflatex, ...) Christian On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 02:53:55PM -0700, Jeff Hamann wrote: > I've tried to install the teTeX port (for pdflatex, etc.) and keep running into this error. > > I can't seem to find a solution on the web and I could really use the help. > > freebsd-82-amd64# uname -a > FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > freebsd-82-amd64# cd /usr/ports/print/teTeX > freebsd-82-amd64# make install > ===> Installing for teTeX-3.0_4 > ===> teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-local/ls-R - found > ===> teTeX-3.0_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/LICENSE.texmf - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/LICENSE.texmf in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf > ===> teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-local/ls-R - found > ===> teTeX-texmf-3.0_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/README - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/README in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE > => cmps-unix.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles//cmps-unix.tar.gz > fetch: http://cvsup.theplanet.com/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz: Connection refused > => Attempting to fetch http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1//cmps-unix.tar.gz > fetch: http://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/type1/cmps-unix.tar.gz: size mismatch: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles//cmps-unix.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/cmps-unix.tar.gz: size mismatch: expected 1915486, actual 1917739 > => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/cmpsfont. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX. > > > > Respectfully, > Jeff. > > > Jeff Hamann, PhD > PO Box 1421 > Corvallis, Oregon 97339-1421 > 541-754-2457 > jeff.hamann[at]forestinformatics[dot]com > jeff.d.hamann[at]gmail[dot]com > http://www.forestinformatics.com > http://forufus.blogspot.com/ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_informatics > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Christian Barthel (Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc ) Mail: bc@user-mode.org Web: http://bc.user-mode.org Server: nemesis.user-mode.org Status: 21:12:21 up 9 days, 13:41, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 19:55:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112B61065674 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA558FC08 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EADBDE80CCE; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:55:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bal?zs M?t?ffy Message-ID: <20110716195548.GB24051@thought.org> References: <20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org> <4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: before i ugrade from 7.3 to 8.x.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:55:50 -0000 On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:50:09AM +0200, Bal?zs M?t?ffy wrote: > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:50:09 +0200 > From: Bal?zs M?t?ffy > Subject: Re: before i ugrade from 7.3 to 8.x.... > To: FreeBSD > > On 16 July 2011 11:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On 16/07/2011 06:45, Gary Kline wrote: > > > i ant to be as sure as possible that my network stuff and mail > > > Works! how can i test my /etc/namedb/* 'stuff'? pretty sure mail > > > works .. AND finally, i'm glad i stuck with FreeBSD and fer all your > > > help. > > > > http://dnscheck.iis.se/ is a good start. Given that you're posting to > > this list, I'd say mail and DNS is probably working. Maybe not > > completely perfect, but good enough. Beyond that, it's usually a matter > > of checking your logs and dealing with any problems as they come up. > > > > Matthew > > > > -- > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > > Flat 3 > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > > > > Hello, > > If you want to check your zones, you can use "dig @localhost DOMAINTOCHECK > AXFR" for a local zone transfer from the dns server itself. Or from another > server "dig @yourdnsserver domainname. Or from a windows server the command > "nslookup", then in the nslookup query add your dns server as source like > this: "server yourdnsserver" then your can check the domains by just typing > them in. > > What exactly you want to check Gary? > > Best Regards, > > Balazs Something very much like what you suggest. I'm still using nslookup, and it can't fiind things like ns1.thought.org. I just tried your first dig command and it failed: pts/4 12:44 [5169] dig @localhost thought.org AXFR ~ ;; Connection to 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) for thought.org failed: connection refused. ;; Connection to 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) for thought.org failed: connection refused. ;; Connection to 127.0.1.1#53(127.0.1.1) for thought.org failed: connection refused. Maybe the site that Matthew recommend will give me soe pointers! gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 20:16:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713B91065670 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472248FC12 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B35A8E809DD; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:16:41 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bal?zs M?t?ffy Message-ID: <20110716201641.GC24051@thought.org> References: <20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org> <4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: before i ugrade from 7.3 to 8.x.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:16:42 -0000 On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:50:09AM +0200, Bal?zs M?t?ffy wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by > ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6G9pbKj074808 for > ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) > by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2166B155347; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 > 09:50:18 +0000 (UTC) > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org > (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A2010656A5; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:50:18 +0000 > (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) > Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101D21065670 for > ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:50:11 +0000 (UTC) > (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) > Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com > [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBE88FC12 for > ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:50:10 +0000 (UTC) > Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so1844807wwe.31 for > ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; > h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to > :content-type; bh=O1O+m/JLbQDquK2LhLcANrKQiDAyw4XeAp9McSrqVqI=; > b=p5XIBqNW7h7LFnn+w5uVVOHa5XIHv1ySZwKPV5E3q3mKhMCvWtHca0QNEAOJru9An1 > +2gRitJCG5sjglsTwH8JgZQpBHNfWwCNwpiK7/HEu79VneKNragYy62hJKGFpafAW7+b > jG+Pmu5Gj8MeunXD22qTp0MZ5FOqXgpGZHim0= > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: by 10.227.197.139 with SMTP id ek11mr518362wbb.23.1310809809611; > Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by 10.227.146.138 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) > In-Reply-To: <4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk> > References: <20110716054554.GA18938@thought.org> > <4E215975.4010607@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:50:09 +0200 > Message-ID: > From: Bal?zs M?t?ffy > To: FreeBSD > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 > Subject: Re: before i ugrade from 7.3 to 8.x.... > X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 > Precedence: list > List-Id: User questions > List-Unsubscribe: , > > List-Archive: > List-Post: > List-Help: > List-Subscribe: , > > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=3.9 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, > RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org > > On 16 July 2011 11:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On 16/07/2011 06:45, Gary Kline wrote: > > > i ant to be as sure as possible that my network stuff and mail > > > Works! how can i test my /etc/namedb/* 'stuff'? pretty sure mail > > > works .. AND finally, i'm glad i stuck with FreeBSD and fer all your > > > help. > > > > http://dnscheck.iis.se/ is a good start. Given that you're posting to > > this list, I'd say mail and DNS is probably working. Maybe not > > completely perfect, but good enough. Beyond that, it's usually a matter > > of checking your logs and dealing with any problems as they come up. > > > > Matthew > > > > -- > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > > Flat 3 > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > > > > Hello, > > If you want to check your zones, you can use "dig @localhost DOMAINTOCHECK > AXFR" for a local zone transfer from the dns server itself. Or from another > server "dig @yourdnsserver domainname. Or from a windows server the command > "nslookup", then in the nslookup query add your dns server as source like > this: "server yourdnsserver" then your can check the domains by just typing > them in. > > What exactly you want to check Gary? > > Best Regards, > > Balazs HA! Wait; that last was from my desktop, "tao"; the following is from my server, "ethic" q5 13:00 Server [5016] dig @localhost thought.org AXFR ;; Connection to ::1#53(::1) for thought.org failed: connection refused. ; <<>> DiG 9.4.-ESV-R2 <<>> @localhost thought.org AXFR ; (2 servers found) ;; global options: printcmd thought.org. 38400 IN SOA ns1.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2011071401 10800 3600 604800 38400 thought.org. 38400 IN NS ethic.thought.org. thought.org. 38400 IN MX 10 ethic.thought.org. bsd.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. cryonics.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. ethic.thought.org. 38400 IN A 10.47.0.230 jottings.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. journey.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. muuz.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. pagetwo.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. philosophy.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. plato.thought.org. 38400 IN A 10.47.0.1 tao.thought.org. 38400 IN A 10.47.0.108 transfinite.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. wordwranglers.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. wright.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. www.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. zen.thought.org. 38400 IN A 10.47.0.190 thought.org. 38400 IN SOA ns1.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2011071401 10800 3600 604800 38400 ;; Query time: 1 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Sat Jul 16 13:01:09 2011 ;; XFR size: 19 records (messages 1, bytes 475) I still don't know hat's causing the failure on port #53 unless it is something with my firewall. (I just added a 4watt pfSense box with a web-only interface.) Is there a cheetsheet for dig anywhere? gary Ps: The DNSCheck site just finished..... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 21:00:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3AC106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3148FC0C for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so2713348pvg.13 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:00:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7pC5cNh/rr0zG/OjaE/FVLED9D0eRmbEeaq0b/7GyfI=; b=VU8RinLjIkXkKov5TRi6KD1a27oCaEMW5v3XWlIU8s3pdC7P6Uz4+wKNTTXEO43jXR xpw4H3zH8JKhQA0R5TMu02SK/83uMRI1dEeD209QOymRC1KnWYzonBvXpyWjgXH8omJ1 gaiQ7f3AUXROGClqiAYqTJEK8DJ04ocX7TjWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.14.195 with SMTP id r3mr5945136pbc.171.1310850027701; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.40.72 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: David Arendt , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: options used to compile packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:00:28 -0000 > I want to compile packages from the ports collections with exactly the > same options that have been used to compile the official packages from > the official freebsd package collection. Is the var/db/ports directory > used to compile the official freebsd package collection available > somewhere ? If not, it would be very good to make it available as ports > default options seem to be different from options used to compile > official packages. As far as I know, the default options are used to compile the standard packages. Where did you think that there were differences? The official builds use a vanilla ports tree, and the scripts at http://svnweb.FreeBSD.org/base/projects/portbuild/ . b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 16 21:43:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E28106564A for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f49.google.com (mail-pz0-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A498FC08 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so3717089pzk.8 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:43:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mMWQvNAiVYCRJGpQKYGOpkpv6SINBHtVsCWN4bP7R0I=; b=LbCSQZ19bkfuif4kADVg0MS969eicyiyACzXY0sCKba+Emzm2WoVFvSlN6Di2JTSsl JPdpQbRxq8kKib1iHzl/suX/SEJQIUBfiSmYbGv+47tLxxUoO8r5zQaZu5HV1/t78cpZ AusDe0/Fs4IcJpZ88HS/MHD/VnDBm+PzhbNPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.48.74 with SMTP id j10mr5422194pbn.37.1310852609661; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.40.72 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:43:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: gcc 4.4.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:43:30 -0000 > I decided to switch from portmaster to portupgrade and pkddb -F show many > stale dependencies on gcc-4.4.5.20110503 (lang/gcc44). > > Do I need to put new dependencies to gcc-4.5.4.20110630 or something else, > please? > For portmaster I put IGNOREMI+ line and it works but I don't know how to do > with portupgrade. I am not sure what you mean by using +IGNOREME here. Unless you have a good reason to use lang/gcc44, you should replace lang/gcc44 with lang/gcc45, and rebuild or otherwise obtain newer versions of the packages that formerly used lang/gcc44 at runtime, so that the newer packages use the libraries from lang/gcc45 at runtime. The bookkeeping in the portupgrade database and in /var/db/pkg, and the updating tool(s) that you choose to use, are relatively minor details. If you choose to use portupgrade to do this, you should probably do something like: portupgrade -o lang/gcc45 lang/gcc44 portupgrade -rfx lang/gcc45 lang/gcc45 (although it has been a while since I used portupgrade). You may want to first try the steps with an added -n. b. 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To: David Arendt , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: options used to compile packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:12:40 -0000 > well I don't actually now which package it was, but I compiled gdm (so > it should be one of it's dependencies). A compilation resulted in a non > working gdm (something with pam support not found on execution). Upon > installing gdm and is dependencies from packages, everything worked > correctly. Therefore I thought there might be other default options. I > am sorry that I cannot be more precise, but I tried it 2 months ago, so > I do not remember exactly. I think I will try it again from scratch with > latest ports tree and give you more precise information. In addition to the obvious possibilities that your test was faulty, or that you somehow polluted your build environment, It is also possible that: -at least one of your ports was a different version than used in the default packages, and had a bug; -there was a transient build error; or -you were using a different version of FreeBSD than that used to build the default packages that you used, and there is a problem with one of the ports on that version of FreeBSD. b.