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Date:      Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:26:28 -0400
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
Cc:        Remko Lodder <remko@freebsd.org>, hadarai@bsd.ee, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: alpha/75317: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha
Message-ID:  <200703271026.28933.jhb@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070327054334.GL58115@elvandar.org>
References:  <200703262036.l2QKaix7039741@freefall.freebsd.org> <4608458E.40405@performancedesign.no> <20070327054334.GL58115@elvandar.org>

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On Tuesday 27 March 2007 01:43:34 am Remko Lodder wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:13:34AM +0200, Idar Tollefsen wrote:
> > >On Monday 26 March 2007 04:36:44 pm Remko Lodder wrote:
> > >>Synopsis: [ata] [busdma] ATA DMA broken on PCalpha
> > >>
> > >>State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
> > >>State-Changed-By: remko
> > >>State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 26 20:36:44 UTC 2007
> > >>State-Changed-Why: 
> > >>alpha is no longer supported and time will not be invested to get things
> > >>fixed. Our apologies for our lack of attention for this issue.
> > >
> > >What the heck?!!! I just posted a patch to the list for this TODAY.  
> > >Please reopen this bug.  Alpha may not be in 7.0, but since 6.x is still 
a 
> > >supported branch it is still a supported platform, and fixes that go into 
> > >6.x are still very welcome.
> > 
> > Yes, I sort of wondered what was going on. We get these reminders about 
> > bug reports filed against FreeBSD/Alpha sent to us at freebsd-alpha@ 
> > once a month and when someone actually DOES something about it, the bug 
> > is closed before the patch can tested and committed?
> > 
> > Please don't do that.
> > 
> > I for one appreciate the work and effort, John.
> > 
> > 
> > - Idar
> 
> Don't misunderstand me, I also appriciate the work of John and the other
> committers; though most alpha PR's are stale and unlikely to get resolved
> anytime soon (read:  never). I dont want to uphold something that isn't
> going to get fixed, and yes that would mean stepping on some people's toes
> from time to time, in that case we can actively do something about the
> specific tickets while the others well just fade out.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback though, the ticket had been reopened and apologies
> had been made in the ticket.

I think it was a bit of a misunderstanding actually and I might have 
overreacted a bit.  Apparently there's been some noise in the PR + core team 
about closing Alpha PR's and that just happened to collide with my finally 
sending a patch out for testing yesterday. :)  If there is a decision that is 
made wrt Alpha PR's, it would be helpful to at least have some sort of 
announcement made on the alpha@ mailing list.  I think we should hold off on 
doing too much de-support of Alpha though until we truly de-support it when 
we stop supporting 6.x.

-- 
John Baldwin



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