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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 17:52:53 -0500
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>, marino@freebsd.org, Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, "George L. Yermulnik" <yz@yz.kiev.ua>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile
Message-ID:  <b685bc2d-cd4d-d496-ffa0-25f5f4c27290@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <79dee31b-48bb-2f50-34ef-4825e465ccda@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <20160914214421.GA61341@yz.kiev.ua> <8724052b-ba0a-0e3b-9689-b869ae091e1f@FreeBSD.org> <3a1178ff-952c-c6e6-2253-3f74bdcaaff8@marino.st> <79dee31b-48bb-2f50-34ef-4825e465ccda@FreeBSD.org>

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On 9/14/2016 17:46, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 9/14/16 3:33 PM, John Marino wrote:
>> On 9/14/2016 17:30, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>> Le 14/09/2016 à 23:44, George L. Yermulnik a écrit :
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 at 19:25:19 (+0000), Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: bdrewery
>>>>> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:25:19 2016
>>>>> New Revision: 422154
>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422154
>>>>> Log:
>>>>>   Mark deprecated as it has no maintainer and is already in base.
>>>> Am I using some broken FreeBSD installation?
>>>> [--- cut ---]
>>>> 00:41:56 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> uname -srm
>>>> FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE i386
>>>> 00:41:57 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> echo $PATH
>>>> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:~/bin:
>>>> 00:41:59 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> fgrep GAMES /etc/src.conf
>>>> WITHOUT_GAMES=YES
>>>> 00:42:03 [root#nb][w:2][j:0][~]> which fortune_strfile strfile | wc -l
>>>>        0
>>>> [--- cut ---]
>>>
>>> Ok, so, without GAMES, you don't have fortune. You then do not need to
>>> have a fortune file, right ?
>>>
>>
>> Unless he uses that machine to build a package repository for other
>> machines that do have fortune, which despite any objection, is a
>> legitimate case.
>>
>
> It's absolutely not.  Building packages in a jail should match the
> target.  You cannot build with missing dependencies as many ports will
> see those dependencies missing in autoconf (or similar) and disable
> features.  Even outside of a jail, the build should be done in a chroot
> matching the target.  It's basic cross-building.

Absolutely false.  You don't need fortune to build fortune data files. 
I've already proven that.  You can't possible state that's not true. 
Only strfile is needed.  We're talking about a specific case, not a 
general one.

I understand you are trying to justify rash behavior at this point but 
I'm not going let misinformation pass by.


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