From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 0:25:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCE637B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d.tracker ([65.92.119.129]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010916072518.HASB19517.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@d.tracker>; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:25:18 -0400 Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8G7Sf606499; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:28:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:28:36 -0400 From: David Banning To: Jim Freeze Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help with XFree86, 4.3R and ATI Rage XL card (fwd) Message-ID: <20010916032835.A6396@sympatico.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfreeze@freebsdportal.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:41:23AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:41:23AM -0400, Jim Freeze wrote: > Hi > > Can some kind soul help through my XFree86 battles. > I have 4.3R and just purchased an ATI Rage XL video card. > I checked the XFree86 video card compatability list > when I bought this card. It said that it worked with the > Mach64 accelerated driver. > > After running XF86Setup, it cannot start the xserver. > It complained about "extmod", so I added that, but > it did not help. > > Does someone have this card working. A good XF86Config > file would be nice. Jim, I bought this card as you did and found many people who had a great deal of trouble getting it working, including I might add, me. I know it shows as being supported in XFree86 >4 but I think someone goofed. If you have the patience, I expect it will be working eventually. I spoke to one guy who is working on it. I ended up returning it and getting something else. Sorry I couldn't be of any more assistance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 0:25:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from groggy.anc.acsalaska.net (groggy.anc.acsalaska.net [208.151.119.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598A637B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from abc@localhost) by groggy.anc.acsalaska.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA34229 for "freebsd-questions" ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:25:29 GMT (envelope-from groggy@iname.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:25:29 GMT From: groggy@iname.com Message-Id: <200109160725.HAA34229@groggy.anc.acsalaska.net> X-Authentication-Warning: groggy.anc.acsalaska.net: abc set sender to groggy@iname.com using -f Subject: file locking #2 X-Mailer: Umail v1.9 To: "freebsd-questions" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.3 FBSD. > i never got an answer to this question i posted a few weeks ago, > nd cuz it's important to some scripting i am doing, > i thought i'd try again. > > FBSD's file locking scheme changed somewhat from version 2 to version 3. in > v2 a user could open the same file on multiple terminals with RW > permissions. in v3, this could'nt be done, only the 1st instance of opening > a file would have RW permission; instances thereafter would have only R > permission. > > however with v3, server processes always have RW permission, even if the > file is currently open with in a user process with RW permission. > > it makes some sense, but i am not sure that i understand this scheme > completely, since file locking now has somewhat of a split personality. > > does it come down to this: user/interactive login shell processes only have > RW on the first instance of a file being opened, while all other processes > have RW permission always? > > also - how do one know when to use file locks in scripts - what quantity of > data is safe to write to a file with other processes possibly simultaneously > writing to the same file? > > thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 0:27:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CDB37B408; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tarmap.schulte.org (tarmap.schulte.org [209.134.156.198]) by poontang.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878EAD144D; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:27:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010916022609.02172758@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:27:27 -0500 To: "alexus" , From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: upgrading FreeBSD-4.3STABLE(4.4RC) to FreeBSD-4.4STABLE Cc: In-Reply-To: <002301c13e6d$d5e13c70$0100a8c0@alexus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:09 AM 9/16/2001 -0400, alexus wrote: >cd /usr/src;make world;make kernel;mergemaster;reboot If you want to do that all one on a single command line, I suggest you use something more like: `cd /usr/src && make world && make kernel && mergemaster` Which will check that each step is completed successfully before the next one starts. One possibility is you have kern.securelevel set to a level that would prevent the new kernel from being properly installed. Since you used ';' to separate those install commands, the system would silently go on to the next step even if the new kernel was not installed. If you have any doubts that your source was not updated, look at /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh and search for 'BRANCH' and 'REVISION' If it indeed says STABLE and 4.4, then I'd see why your compiled kernel is not being installed correctly after being built. -- Christopher Schulte christopher@schulte.org http://noc.schulte.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 0:51:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D285B37B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:31:36 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: Fergus Cameron , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i dont unsterstand the disk label maker Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:31:20 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <1000475917.3ba20d0dee7b2@webmail.neomedia.it> <20010914151110.A2094@dedog.argus-systems.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20010914151110.A2094@dedog.argus-systems.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091523312002.16877@i8k.babbleon.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 14 September 2001 10:11, Fergus Cameron wrote: > > Fdisk makes (Unix) slices (the same as DOS *primary* partitions); > > disklabel actually makes (Unix) partitions (subdivisions within a slice). > > i think you have the terminology back to front & technically there is no > DOS partition involved. > > there IBM partitions on your disk. BSD will take one of those partions for > it's own & allow you to create slices within it. Not quite. There are BIOS partitions on your disk, which FreeBSD calls "slices"; eg, ad0s1. Within them there are Unix partitions, not slices. > > you can therefore have on BSD partition with many slices. No, you can have a BSD slice (BIOS partition) with many partitions. > > the other three paritions can be of another type, DOS, EXT_DOS, etc. BSD slices / BIO partitions > i would think of unix slices like logical drives in DOS. you take one > primary partion & allow many logical elements inside it. Yes, BSD partitions are like logical partitions; BSD slices are like physical partitions. > > that aside yes, fdisk alters the fixed disk's parition table & disklabel > changes the parition's unix labellling (i.e. slices). (i.e. partitions) That's why it's ad0s1a and so forth: a (what *does* the a stand for anyway) d0 disk 0 (disks are zero-indexed) /* hardware controls this */ s1 slice 1 (slices are one-indexed; who said this had to make sense) /* fdisk controls this */ a a=boot partition; b=swap; c=entire disk; d-h=other partitions /* disklabel controls this */ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) http://www.babbleon.org --------------------> Free Dmitry Sklyarov! <------------------------- http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 1:42:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tarakan-network.com (chojin.adsl.nerim.net [62.4.22.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CC737B401; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chojin (Cho@chojin.lan.tarakan-network.com [192.168.69.2] (may be forged)) by tarakan-network.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8G8gTe00695; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:42:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@tarakan-network.com) Message-ID: <000b01c13e8b$84826980$0245a8c0@chojin> From: "Chojin" To: , Subject: Kernel Panic after upgrade Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:42:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, yesterday I cvsup my system with RELENG_4 branch. I recompiled my system, kernel, no error. I reboot with new kernel and just after it booted it says: panic: pmap_bootstrap: no local apic! mp_lock = 00000009; cpuid = 0; lapic.id =00000000 Uptime: 0s What I need to do ? Chojin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 2:14: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from godfather.webvolution.net (godfather.webvolution.net [208.231.0.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB00037B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by godfather.webvolution.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29154 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:13:58 +0100 (WEST) (envelope-from dleal@webvolution.net) From: Daniel Leal X-Authentication-Warning: godfather.webvolution.net: nobody set sender to dleal@webvolution.net using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: install without ports Message-ID: <1000631638.3ba46d5680336@mail.webvolution.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:13:58 +0100 (WEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 195.23.210.238 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone! I wish to install wxgtk-2.2.7,1 in a computer that dont have the ports collection. I looked for the package but I did not was able to find it! I have the wxgtk-2.2.7.tar.gz file in another machine that have it already installed. The machines are not connected with each other. But I can copy things with floppies. I that a ("simple") way to create a package with the sources? Or does anyone know where can I find a package? I have been reading the man page for "pkg_create", but I did not understand it very well! Can somebody help me with this, please? Thanks Daniel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 2:23:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FA337B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there ([24.21.92.93]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010916092312.IWFO17121.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:23:12 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Charlie & To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DVD Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:22:44 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010916092312.IWFO17121.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I remember someone posted about being able to view movies in FreeBSD. What was the application again? sorry I forgot. Thanks Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 3:31:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC1737B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15iZCn-0008J1-03; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:31:17 +0200 Received: from stardust.sol (520006897652-0001@[217.1.66.120]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15iZCk-1S6XbMC; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:31:14 +0200 Received: (from atlan@localhost) by stardust.sol (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8HAUf301868 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:30:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from atlan) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:30:40 +0200 From: Ronny-Walter@t-online.de (Ronny Walter) To: Mailinglist Subject: Starting XFree Message-ID: <20010917123040.A1843@stardust.sol> Reply-To: Ronny Walter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Sender: 520006897652-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a problem, when i try to start XFree 4 as a normal user. As root everything is ok. As user, the following error-message appears: Cannot open Logfile "var/log/XFree86.0.log". Do you have any suggestions to solve this problem? Ronny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 3:54:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (mail.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6510537B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15iZY3-0006JU-00; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:53:15 +0300 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:53:15 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Charlie & Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: DVD Message-ID: <20010916135315.E40098@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Charlie & , FBSD-Q References: <20010916092312.IWFO17121.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010916092312.IWFO17121.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 1:52PM up 10 days, 21:47, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Charlie & [20010916 12:23]: writ= ing on the subject 'DVD' | I remember someone posted about being able to view movies in FreeBSD. |=20 | What was the application again? cd /usr/ports/graphics/vlc make install clean Well, it was vlc ;-) -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse. Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286,00100-NAIROBI,KE. As part of an equal opportunity project, a memo was sent to all the offices= =20 within External Affairs asking for "A list of all employees broken down by= =20 sex.=20 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pISbn7LIsuxjem8RAqFaAKCS0EBO01dJNU1ZOS4thnIek0aoSACgqHVj ZoYuawGotdIQJAv51n5tSXM= =iez3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 4:14: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mv.ru (mv.ru [193.124.97.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B726937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 04:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp2033s.usr.MV.ru ([213.242.23.248] verified) by mv.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with ESMTP id 471263 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:13:55 +0400 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:11:15 +0400 From: zhuravlev alexander X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: zaa Organization: ulstu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <501655406.20010916151115@ulstu.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DIVX4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is it posssible to view DIVX4 movies in FreeBSD ? thanx. - zaa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 4:37: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from claven.hwi.buffalo.edu (claven.hwi.buffalo.edu [128.205.85.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CEDC37B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 04:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2203 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 11:37:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO hwi.buffalo.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 11:37:00 -0000 Received: from 141.149.144.170 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rcollins) by claven.hwi.buffalo.edu with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:37:00 +0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1868.141.149.144.170.1000640220.squirrel@claven.hwi.buffalo.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:37:00 +0400 (EDT) Subject: redundant mail servers From: To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking to implement redundant mail servers. Load balancing would be *very nice* considering the cost of the hardware, but redundancy is the requirement. I would like to use freebsd, of course, but things are looking pretty grim. Hopefully someone on the list can help me out. I have only found one way to do this on freebsd and that is to use an application solution such as polyserve's understudy. $3000 is a hunk of change though, and they don't support anything past 4.1-RELEASE. Who knows what they are going to support tomorrow, so I'm not too keen on that idea. The route that I would really like to take a shot at is to hook two freebsd machines up to a multi-host scsi enclosure and use sistina's gfs for the filesystem. The only problem there is gfs hasn't been ported to freebsd yet. They have been promising a port for several years now, but one still hasn't appeared. Anyone have any other ideas? -rcollins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 4:39:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin7.bigpond.com (juicer38.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EC837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 04:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from desktop.freebsd.org ([144.135.24.78]) by mailin7.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJR7BS00.AS6 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:45:28 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-45-118-167.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.118.167]) by bwmam04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 8329/13216177); 16 Sep 2001 21:45:28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Danny To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: onboard sound card and FreeBSD Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:39:10 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091621391000.00398@desktop.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -Hello - I am running FreeBSD desktop.freebsd.org 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sun Sep 16 18:37:56 EST 2001 dannyho@desktop.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CUSTOM2 i386 > - I have added to the following line to MYKERNEL "device pcm" - Then after I "reboot" I typed in sh MAKEDEV snd0 - I am trying to get my built in onboard sound card to work but it still doesn't work - Maybe someont in the mailing list can point ouit what I am doing wrong? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 4:43:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blade.elitsat.net (blade.elitsat.net [209.239.78.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B764F37B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 04:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (amour@localhost) by blade.elitsat.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8GBhbA44370 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:43:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from amour@blade.elitsat.net) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:43:36 +0300 (EEST) From: Alexander To: Subject: Infrared on laptops Message-ID: <20010916144255.N44368-100000@blade.elitsat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does FreeBSD support drivers for infrared and how can I enable it ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 4:51: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB8B37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 04:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from entropy.inserted.net (winax2-120.dialup.optusnet.com.au [210.49.109.120]) by mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8GBoQ320245 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:50:29 +1000 Received: by entropy.inserted.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2177C356B; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:55:54 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:55:53 +1000 From: Stephen Ware To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Intel 815EM \w 82562ET ethernet controller. Message-ID: <20010916215553.A6476@entropy.inserted.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy all, I have a notebook with the 82562ET ethernet controller in it. From reading through the mail archives, I've noticed there's a been a fair bit of trouble with this chipset. These problems seem to be revolving around an SCB timeout, which would suggest the card is actually being detected. And therein lies my problem :-) I've tried forcing the IRQ for the card, as well as leaving it auto. Unfortunatly, my bios doesn't contain a "non pnp os installed" option, so I can't try that. No matter what I seem to do, the card is just not detected. At the moment my only thought is the version I'm using, 4.0-RELEASE. Unfortunatly, I only have 56k connectivity, and the closest shop I can find that carry later newer versions is quite a few hours from me. Before I embark on a journey to upgrade, I'd like to know if anyone has had experience with this chipset under 4.0, so I can decide wether the problem is my machine or the driver. On browsing the cvsweb, I noticed a commit rearding this chipset to if_fxp.c in -stable; should this work without an issue on 4.0? Any insight on this problem would be much appreciated. Please cc me, as I am not subscribed to the list. -- Regards, Stephen Ware steve@inserted.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 5: 0:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (ci590846-b.lxintn1.ky.home.com [24.9.218.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8558F37B40E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfreeze@localhost) by CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05609; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:10:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jfreeze@freebsdportal.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:10:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-Sender: jfreeze@CI590846-B.lxintn1.ky.home.com To: parv Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help with XFree86, 4.3R and ATI Rage XL card (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20010916010000.A14834@moo.holy.cow> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, parv wrote: > jim, what's up w/ same multiple messages (so far, 3)? > Sorry about the multiple messages. There was a problem with the email and the earlier ones did not go through. I thought they were lost forever. But, when the problem was fixed, they all showed up. Oops. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 5: 1:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omsk.mushinsky.net (omsk.mushinsky.net [66.114.66.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBBD37B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from itz@localhost) by omsk.mushinsky.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f8GC0su16666; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:00:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from itz) Message-Id: <200109161200.f8GC0su16666@omsk.mushinsky.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: Isaac Mushinsky To: Ronny Walter , "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: Starting XFree Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:00:53 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20010917123040.A1843@stardust.sol> In-Reply-To: <20010917123040.A1843@stardust.sol> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG install wrapper in ports/x11. On Monday 17 September 2001 06:30, you wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem, when i try to start XFree 4 as a normal user. As > root everything is ok. As user, the following error-message appears: > Cannot open Logfile "var/log/XFree86.0.log". > > Do you have any suggestions to solve this problem? > > Ronny > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 5: 3:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omsk.mushinsky.net (omsk.mushinsky.net [66.114.66.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA2E37B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from itz@localhost) by omsk.mushinsky.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f8GC2UR16675; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:02:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from itz) Message-Id: <200109161202.f8GC2UR16675@omsk.mushinsky.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: Isaac Mushinsky To: Danny , "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: onboard sound card and FreeBSD Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:02:30 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <01091621391000.00398@desktop.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <01091621391000.00398@desktop.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG More detail please (card type? is the system is aware of the card at all?= ) On Sunday 16 September 2001 07:39, you wrote: > -Hello > - I am running > > FreeBSD desktop.freebsd.org 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sun Sep= 16 > 18:37:56 EST 2001 > dannyho@desktop.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CUSTOM2 i386 > > > > - I have added to the following line to MYKERNEL "device pcm" > - Then after I "reboot" I typed in sh MAKEDEV snd0 > > - I am trying to get my built in onboard sound card to work but it stil= l > doesn't work > > - Maybe someont in the mailing list can point ouit what I am doing wron= g? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 5:12:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (ci590846-b.lxintn1.ky.home.com [24.9.218.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAE837B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfreeze@localhost) by CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05641; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:22:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jfreeze@freebsdportal.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:22:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-Sender: jfreeze@CI590846-B.lxintn1.ky.home.com To: David Banning Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need help with XFree86, 4.3R and ATI Rage XL card (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20010916032835.A6396@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, David Banning wrote: > Jim, I bought this card as you did and found many people who had a > great deal of trouble getting it working, including I might add, me. > > I know it shows as being supported in XFree86 >4 but I think someone > goofed. If you have the patience, I expect it will be working eventually. > I spoke to one guy who is working on it. > > I ended up returning it and getting something else. > > Sorry I couldn't be of any more assistance. > That is of great help. You saved me wasting my time today. What card did you end up getting? Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 5:24:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (ci590846-b.lxintn1.ky.home.com [24.9.218.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A7337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfreeze@localhost) by CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05665 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:34:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jfreeze@freebsdportal.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:34:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-Sender: jfreeze@CI590846-B.lxintn1.ky.home.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Looking for Low-end video card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Can someone suggest a low to moderate priced video card that works with XFree86 3.3.6 or 4.1.0? I am looking for an AGP card with 8-16 MB RAM and costs under $100.00. I have purchased two that were listed as compatable on the xfree86.org site, but poeple on this list have told me that they really are not. So, to avoid buying a third card that does not work, I am asking here. Thanks Jim If your program contains three obscure bugs, I will find two of them. ========================================================= Jim Freeze --------------------------------------------------------- jfreeze@freebsdportal.com ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 5:29:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gamma.root-servers.ch (gamma.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB14A37B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 78362 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2001 12:29:24 -0000 Received: from dclient217-162-128-224.hispeed.ch (HELO athlon550) (217.162.128.224) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 12:29:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:33:42 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53bis) Educational Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <471795842174.20010916143342@buz.ch> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: portupgrade --recursive... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello, I've been messing around with portupgrade and especially its very nice - --recursive option today. However, I don't really understand how it is supposed to work. The man page says: -r --recursive Do with all those depending on the given packages as well. I interpret this as portupgrade --recursive should also rebuild all the packages that depend on but this doesn't seem to be the case: Figuring this would especially be useful for binary incompatible library updates, I went on and tried (after running portsdb -uU and pkgdepfix): portupgrade --recursive png which doesn't entirely work as I expected it to do: it will upgrade png-1.0.12 to 1.2.0 and takes care of gd which depends on it, but won't take care of packages depending on gd (they are listed as being dependent on gd!) which is bad as webalizer, for example, breaks with the new version of png but will work just fine when built against the new lib. Another thing I noticed is that --recursive breaks completely when "*" is used as package name, in that case, png get's upgraded, but even gd won't. What's the matter here? Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBO6SOHMZa2WpymlDxAQEh1wgAnMq8AE/jedpgDaHlKrxeLrzcB8xX5rSy 26pocfX8W8L6HkqyLx9uML9O85TvcyaCcg5hSQulZMzOd/7zuY1JgETYbHGmxv/z j9M1adyjpw9PC+hJjG8avbIWOhmiPBaWAXNe/YE6Fom4n/9o6214Uh9JvJ36+dMg wm+Ib3dsiAIuV2emeVjJ2uy+w0vaiOks/x05+v5HdtFROjX4GRxbrYUSsmbiWTux Wg/GAqx8fy/JE4jtYi65CLTfYud9gDwteokdL4BAYbrQMXry45hG97tyx0mZVes1 4IIBqYj+SUJBsSd1XZakZM88LBZOo20Oc3UBZ2GoPh/GhFXAdh58Uw== =Zy1W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 5:34:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F7D37B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sobek.lan ([62.252.8.133]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010916123441.YZLX23687.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@sobek.lan>; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:34:41 +0100 Received: (from greid@localhost) by sobek.lan (8.11.5/8.11.5) id f8GCYeD63414; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:34:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from greid@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: sobek.lan: greid set sender to greid@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:34:39 +0100 From: George Reid To: Danny Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: onboard sound card and FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010916133439.A63393@FreeBSD.org> References: <01091621391000.00398@desktop.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01091621391000.00398@desktop.freebsd.org>; from dannyho@bigpond.net.au on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 09:39:10PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 09:39:10PM +1000, Danny wrote: > - I have added to the following line to MYKERNEL "device pcm" That's not enough. You need to recompile the kernel and install it as well. > - Then after I "reboot" I typed in sh MAKEDEV snd0 ...this needs to be done in /dev > - I am trying to get my built in onboard sound card to work but it still > doesn't work I don't know what soundcard you have. > - Maybe someont in the mailing list can point ouit what I am doing wrong? Maybe somebody with a problem can supply some real information on what problems they're experiencing. -- +-------------------+---------------------+ | George Reid | FreeBSD Committer | | +44 7740 197460 | greid@FreeBSD.org | +-------------------+---------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 6:39:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20106.mail.yahoo.com (web20106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 810BF37B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010916133953.47487.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [154.20.97.97] by web20106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:39:53 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:39:53 -0700 (PDT) From: ann kok Subject: firewall To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all Can a freebsd box be function as firewall 'ipfilter' and as routing from cable modem together? If it can, is there any security issues? Thank you __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 7:43:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D74D37B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sephiroth (dialup-uu-dynamic37.cshore.com [63.112.158.37]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 49D2A23F0A; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:46:35 -0400 From: Matthew Graybosch To: Jim Freeze Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for Low-end video card Message-Id: <20010916104635.48c863ca.matthew@starbreaker.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.3 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you can find one, get a 3Dfx Voodoo3 card. ****** Matthew Graybosch [matthew@starbreaker.net] http://www.starbreaker.net :: where dreams and reality collide The SNAFU Principle: "True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 7:48: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B319C37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xs4.xs4all.nl (xs4.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.45]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05536; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:48:02 +0200 (CEST) From: rene@xs4all.nl Received: (from rene@localhost) by xs4.xs4all.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA14048; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:48:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:48:02 +0200 To: Fernando Gleiser Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ping fails (setup: pptp, ppp, adsl (xs4all.nl), ipf, IPv4) Message-ID: <20010916164802.I7106@xs4all.nl> References: <20010915204109.G7106@xs4all.nl> <20010915155651.F19439-100000@cactus.fi.uba.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010915155651.F19439-100000@cactus.fi.uba.ar>; from fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar on Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:57:24PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:57:24PM -0300, Fernando Gleiser wrote: > Please post also your ipf and ipnat conf files. > > > Fer > allrighty; -- /etc/ipf.rules # Let loopback packets through pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all # Disallow direct access to the Alcatel block out log quick on xl0 from any to 10.0.0.138 port = 21 block out log quick on xl0 from any to 10.0.0.138 port = 23 block out log quick on xl0 from any to 10.0.0.138 port = 80 # Allow all other communication pass out quick on xl0 from 10.0.0.139/32 to 10.0.0.138 pass in quick on xl0 from 10.0.0.138/32 to 10.0.0.139 # Anti-spoofing rules block in log quick on tun0 from 0.0.0.0/8 to any block in log quick on tun0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any block in log quick on tun0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any block in log quick on tun0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any block in log quick on tun0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any block in log quick on tun0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any block in log quick on tun0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any # Own IP address block in log quick on tun0 from 194.109.196.149 to any # Traffic from and to local LAN pass in quick on de0 proto tcp from 192.168.102.0/24 to any keep state pass in quick on de0 proto udp from 192.168.102.0/24 to any keep state pass in quick on de0 proto icmp from 192.168.102.0/24 to any keep state # (additional rules go here that allow access to the gateway) pass out quick on de0 proto tcp from any to 192.168.102.0/24 keep state pass out quick on de0 proto udp from any to 192.168.102.0/24 keep state pass out quick on de0 proto icmp from any to 192.168.102.0/24 keep state # Allow traffic to go out pass out quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any keep state pass out quick on tun0 proto udp from any to any keep state pass out quick on tun0 proto icmp from any to any keep state --- /etc/ipnat.rules map lo0 192.168.102.0/24 -> 0/32 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 8:11:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 220E437B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from j156.kch20.jaring.my (HELO acidic.ars.org) (161.142.55.170) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 15:11:15 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:43:21 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53t) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1592548124.20010916224321@yahoo.co.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: time offset by 6 hours MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, i have a freebsd box serve as a gateway for 1 windows 2k machine and another freebsd machine. both freebsd running 4.3-stable. anyways, my gateway machine's time is going waaay too slow -- by 6 hours difference to my local timezone. i tried setting the time[zone] with tzsetup a couple of times in the past but it just stays the same. it was offset by 12 hours before i copied /usr/share/zoneinfo// to /etc/timezone, which resulted now to 6 hours, but its still 6 hours behind. can someone get me on hte right track as to where to begin getting the time right? ~as -- Alvin bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 8:28:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227EB37B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sickness (h0000c0f0bdd0.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.160.109]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8GFSvx01331 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Loszewski" To: Subject: RE: onboard sound card and FreeBSD Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:26:02 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01c13ec3$e59274d0$3000a8c0@sickness> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20010916133439.A63393@FreeBSD.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just followed the handbook and it found my onboard sound perfectly. Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of George Reid Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:35 AM To: Danny Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: onboard sound card and FreeBSD On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 09:39:10PM +1000, Danny wrote: > - I have added to the following line to MYKERNEL "device pcm" That's not enough. You need to recompile the kernel and install it as well. > - Then after I "reboot" I typed in sh MAKEDEV snd0 ...this needs to be done in /dev > - I am trying to get my built in onboard sound card to work but it still > doesn't work I don't know what soundcard you have. > - Maybe someont in the mailing list can point ouit what I am doing wrong? Maybe somebody with a problem can supply some real information on what problems they're experiencing. -- +-------------------+---------------------+ | George Reid | FreeBSD Committer | | +44 7740 197460 | greid@FreeBSD.org | +-------------------+---------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 8:38: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jason-n3xt.org (42.mujb.dlls.dllstxbk.dsl.att.net [12.98.249.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E367337B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jason@localhost) by jason-n3xt.org (8.11.4/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8GFdX401157 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:39:34 GMT (envelope-from jason@jason-n3xt.org) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:39:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVSup Ports Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: When I CVSup my sources from say 4.4-RC to 4.4-STABLE how do I update my ports collection to follow? Do i use tag=. (which is -CURRENT I believe) or do I just use the tag=RELENG_4 (for -STABLE). I track -STABLE on my boxes. TIA ---- Jason jason@jason-n3xt.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 8:46:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF6A37B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparky (dialup-209.246.215.176.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [209.246.215.176]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26468 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200109161546.LAA26468@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:47:55 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jud Subject: Make World Error in Share/Termcap Reply-To: jud@operamail.com X-Mailer: Opera 5.12 build 932 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 3 times in the past 10 days I've cvsup-ed STABLE (RELENG_4), then attempted to make world, and have received the same error each time. The last time, I deleted the contents of /usr/src before I cvsup-ed, but that made no difference. My procedure is to go to single user mode (boot -s), fsck -p, mount -u /, mount -a -t -ufs, swapon -a; then mount /usr and delete contents of usr/obj if there are any; mount -u -o noatime /usr (/usr/src is not on a separate filesystem); then mount_mfs -s 1228800 /dev/ad0s2b /usr/obj; and finally, cd /usr/src and make world (tried make -j4 world and plain make world, same result). The error appears as follows: ====> share/termcap TERM:dumb ex - /usr/src/share/termcap/termcap.src < /usr/src/share/termcap/reorder > /dev/null ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share/termcap. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Any suggestions? Any additional information I can provide that might help? Thanks, Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 8:47: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF0C37B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailf.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8GFl0U01885 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:47:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08568 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:46:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 3466 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Sep 2001 15:46:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:46:52 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Jason Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup Ports Message-ID: <20010916174652.A97381@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Jason , questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:39:33PM +0000, Jason wrote: > Hello: > > When I CVSup my sources from say 4.4-RC to 4.4-STABLE how do I update my > ports collection to follow? > > Do i use tag=. (which is -CURRENT I believe) or do I just use the > tag=RELENG_4 (for -STABLE). > > I track -STABLE on my boxes. The ports are not branched so you should always use tag=. when updating your ports collection. Using tag=RELENG_4 would give you a fairly empty ports tree. (Since no ports are tagged with RELENG_4.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 9: 4: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (cable-95-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D53A37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id CBC208C12; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:03:57 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: Alvin Sim , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time offset by 6 hours Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:03:57 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <1592548124.20010916224321@yahoo.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1592548124.20010916224321@yahoo.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010916160357.CBC208C12@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 September 2001 06:43 am, Alvin Sim wrote: > hi all, > > i have a freebsd box serve as a gateway for 1 windows 2k machine and > another freebsd machine. both freebsd running 4.3-stable. > > anyways, my gateway machine's time is going waaay too slow -- by 6 hours > difference to my local timezone. i tried setting the time[zone] with > tzsetup a couple of times in the past but it just stays the same. it was > offset by 12 hours before i copied /usr/share/zoneinfo// > to /etc/timezone, which resulted now to 6 hours, but its still 6 hours > behind. > > can someone get me on hte right track as to where to begin getting the > time right? > > > ~as man date Beech -- Micro$oft: "Where can we make you go today?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 9:12:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (cable-95-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADB237B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id 2BDEC8C12; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:12:27 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: ann kok , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firewall Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:12:26 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20010916133953.47487.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010916133953.47487.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010916161227.2BDEC8C12@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 September 2001 05:39 am, ann kok wrote: > Hi all > > Can a freebsd box be function as firewall 'ipfilter' > and as routing from cable modem together? > > If it can, is there any security issues? > > Thank you > Yes, you can set up the box to do both. As for security issues I would strongly suggest reading "Building Internet Firewalls" as there are many ways to configure your network depending on your situation, and no universal answer. You have to decide how much security you need. Beech -- Micro$oft: "Where can we make you go today?" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 9:20:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.musicman.com (musicman.com [139.171.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE6E37B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johng@localhost) by www.musicman.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA66603 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:20:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from johng@musicman.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:20:32 -0400 (EDT) From: john To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server Freezup (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Mark, The OS is FreeBSD 4.2, with an Adaptec 2400A RAID card, 2 20GB hard drives, configured as RAID 1, 512 MB RAM. The security output after the crash shows this up until the time I did the reboot (when / was not properly dismounted): > syncing disks... > done > Uptime: 56s > Rebooting... > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > pid 342 (kvt), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 345 (kvt), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 348 (kvt), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 351 (kvt), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > fxp0: SCB timeout > fxp0: SCB timeout > fxp0: SCB timeout > fxp0: SCB timeout > fxp0: SCB timeout > fxp0: device timeout > pid 318 (communicator-4.7), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, mark tinguely wrote: > > I do not see any OS version and hardware configuration. Without > any information, I would guess from the fact that this is a Apache > web server that you are exceeding the virtual memory on that machine > and you do not have the VM patch that allows the correct action of > terminating processes in this event. > > Please give more information of the symptoms, pertinate logs entries, > OS level, RAM size, swap, etc. > > --mark tinguely. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 9:34:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F4837B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id f8GGYke01833 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:34:46 +0200 Message-Id: <200109161634.f8GGYke01833@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 16 Sep 01 18:34:35 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 16 Sep 01 18:34:28 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:34:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: i dont unsterstand the disk label maker References: <20010914151110.A2094@dedog.argus-systems.co.uk> In-reply-to: <01091523312002.16877@i8k.babbleon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Brian! On 15 Sep 01 at 23:31 you wrote: > That's why it's ad0s1a and so forth: > > a (what *does* the a stand for anyway) Isn't it ATA? For SCSI disks it's s. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Bugs are Sons of Glitches! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 9:55:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DF437B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA957BCF7; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15626; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:55:26 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8GGt6I45647; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: gLaNDix Cc: Subject: Re: ncftp shortcut References: <20010915203248.P71021-100000@lloydix.2y.net> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Sep 2001 09:55:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20010915203248.P71021-100000@lloydix.2y.net> Message-ID: <3vn13v6pp1.13v@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gLaNDix writes: > also, ncftpget (also installed from the port of ncftp) is wonderful for > d/l-ing files from ftp in only one line! Probably so, but I just used that to DL a directory tree and it tried (unsuccessfully) to change the permissions of the "." directory which it couldn't because ".." was not mine to change. (I was expecting it to put the directory I named into ".", not its contents.) Rambling on: I'm sure there are several easy ways around the problem, but I wish it had reported the otherwise-successful DLing so I needn't have wasted time determining that. (It wasn't obvious since the DL was much smaller than I expected.) I guess I should do my duty and write up an enhancement suggestion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 10: 1:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from berkano.pair.com (berkano.pair.com [209.68.1.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 098B237B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 58759 invoked by uid 3258); 16 Sep 2001 17:01:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 17:01:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:01:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Taylor To: Justin Stanford Cc: , Subject: Re: Gigabyte 1U GS-SR101 Server and Onboard Intel NIC trouble.. anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same kind of problem few months back. Was never able to find a solution for it (No help from Gigabyte). It wasted 3 weeks of my time. Finally I decided to dump the Gigabyte 1U GS-SR101 server and bought a 1U server based on ServerWork LE chipset. The Gigabyte 1U GS-SR101 was nothing but problems. Bryan Tyalor P-Network On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Justin Stanford wrote: > [Apologies for cross-post] > > Hi, > > I'm working with one of these 1U GS-SR101 Gigabyte rackmount servers, with > twin onboard Intel Pro NIC's, running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE. It has a > pentium III 1GHz CPU, and 512mb RAM. > > When booting GENERIC, it get fxp0, and fxp1, as expected. However, upon > assigning correct IP's, and other network parameters, and extensive > testing between both cisco routers and other miscellaneous servers, I can > *only* get pings or other traffic flowing on fxp0, and not fxp1, not > matter what I seem to do. fxp1 appears to be up in all respects, but it > just doesn't seem to be working, whereas fxp0 works fine. > > However, I can ping fxp1 via fxp0, so the interface is up on the system, > but I can't get anything via fxp1. > > Has anyone else experienced this trouble? I hesitate to think that it is a > faulty NIC, but that's all I can think of right now.. is there a known > problem with FreeBSD and this hardware? GNATS and a search of the mailling > lists doesn't seem to reveal anything. > > Thanks in anticipation, > Justin > > (Kindly CC me any answers as I am not subscribed, thank you.) > > -- > Justin Stanford > Internet/Network Security & Solutions Consultant > 4D Digital Security > http://www.4dds.co.za > Cell: (082) 7402741 > E-Mail: jus@security.za.net > PGP Key: http://www.security.za.net/jus-pgp-key.txt > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 10:12: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB11737B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F42FBD01; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17357; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:12:05 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8GHBiC45653; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Brian T.Schellenberger" Cc: Fergus Cameron , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i dont unsterstand the disk label maker References: <1000475917.3ba20d0dee7b2@webmail.neomedia.it> <20010914151110.A2094@dedog.argus-systems.co.uk> <01091523312002.16877@i8k.babbleon.org> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Sep 2001 10:11:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: <01091523312002.16877@i8k.babbleon.org> Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone wrote: > > there IBM partitions on your disk. Anyone know the history of IBM-PC hard disk partitions? What this scheme developed by IBM for their BIOS or by M$ for their M$-M$DOS and IBM-PCDOS, or can we fairly call it a true conspiracy by both (to give people grief well into the 21st Century)? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 10:18:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from berkano.pair.com (berkano.pair.com [209.68.1.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCAFA37B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 60117 invoked by uid 3258); 16 Sep 2001 17:18:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 17:18:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:18:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Taylor To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: , Subject: Re: are backplanes needed for IDE RAID? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex, No, you don't need to buy IDE backplanes for 3Ware IDE RAID controller. The IDE disk enclosure/tray from Synetic won't allow you to do hot-swap on the IDE drives anyway. Don't waste your money on it. Just mount the IDE drives directly in to your server's drive bays. They should work fine. If you really need hot-swap IDE drives, you might want to take a look at following website. http://www.rackmount.com/RackSvr/ColocationServer1125-IDE-RAID.htm The IDE Raid unit has a build-in IDE-to-IDE RAID-1 controller. It doesn't need a RAID software driver for FreeBSD O.S. Actually you can install any types of operating system on it using a standard IDE driver. (Operating system independent RAID system). Cool stuff! Bryan Taylor P-Networks On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Alexey Koptsevich wrote: > > Hello, > > We are buying 3ware 7810 IDE RAID controller (supports hot-swap) and > thinking now about disk enclosures. There are some on the market (e.g., > backplane http://www.synetic.net/Synetic-Products/2-to-3-IDE.html) but I > wonder do we need them? As far as I understand, some power switching is > necessary for hot swap, but do backplanes provide any advantage against > simple mobile racks with disk power switcher? Also, the backplane cited > above has two power connectors, are they necessary for hot-swappable power > supplies or not? > > Thanks a lot, > Alex > > PS Please cc: me your reply. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 10:36:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3117837B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA56BBCFE; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19780; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:36:45 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8GHaPS45656; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:36:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: ann kok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firewall References: <20010916133953.47487.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Sep 2001 10:36:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20010916133953.47487.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ann kok writes: > Can a freebsd box be function as firewall 'ipfilter' > and as routing from cable modem together? Sure; and with the standard 'ipfirewall/ipfw' as well. And if you want to risk the reduced security, you can dispense with a separate firewall/router box and do it all in a box which does other things -- serving, printing, workstation, etc. > If it can, is there any security issues? Isn't/Aren't there always? There are several related articles at FreeBSD-related web sites and some good stuff in the Handbook and ipf/ipfw man pages and also in a intro man page named "firewall". Mailing list and newsgroup archives (eg groups.google.com) can also be very helpful, especially on firewall rules for specific applications which tend to be omitted from most (but not all) articles and intros. You should also find very helpful the book "Building Linux and OpenBSD Firewalls" (pub: Wiley) which carries over to well to FreeBSD as long as you use "ipfilter" (and is still quite informative of "theory" for "ipfw" users). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 10:53:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141EE37B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id UUQ68349; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:53:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8GHq9t06838; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:52:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:52:09 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Chojin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Panic after upgrade Message-ID: <20010916205209.A6804@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <000b01c13e8b$84826980$0245a8c0@chojin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c13e8b$84826980$0245a8c0@chojin>; from freebsd@tarakan-network.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 10:42:27AM +0200 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 10:42:27, freebsd (Chojin) wrote about "Kernel Panic after upgrade": > yesterday I cvsup my system with RELENG_4 branch. > I recompiled my system, kernel, no error. > > I reboot with new kernel and just after it booted it says: > panic: pmap_bootstrap: no local apic! > mp_lock = 00000009; cpuid = 0; lapic.id =00000000 > Uptime: 0s > > What I need to do ? Compile kernel without SMP options, most probably. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 11: 0:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2980F37B408; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17653; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:59:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010916115841.0467c100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:59:25 -0600 To: "Daniel O'Connor" , Paul Robinson From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Laptops & FreeBSD Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, KEPA In-Reply-To: References: <20010915194031.K3356@jake.akitanet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:25 PM 9/15/2001, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >Unless they're Lucent WinModems, or IBM MWave's... I tried to get an MWave working and did not succeed. Has someone managed to do it? --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 11: 5: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DC6837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 77064 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Sep 2001 18:05:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:05:18 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Chojin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Panic after upgrade Message-ID: <20010916200518.F76493@mail.webmonster.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , Chojin , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000b01c13e8b$84826980$0245a8c0@chojin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000b01c13e8b$84826980$0245a8c0@chojin>; from freebsd@tarakan-network.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 10:42:27AM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chojin(freebsd@tarakan-network.com)@2001.09.16 10:42:27 +0000: > Hello, >=20 > yesterday I cvsup my system with RELENG_4 branch. > I recompiled my system, kernel, no error. >=20 > I reboot with new kernel and just after it booted it says: > panic: pmap_bootstrap: no local apic! > mp_lock =3D 00000009; cpuid =3D 0; lapic.id =3D00000000 > Uptime: 0s >=20 > What I need to do ? compile without options SMP and options APIC_IO if it is a single processor system, i think. /k --=20 > A Christian is a man who feels repentance on Sunday for what he did on > Saturday and is going to do on Monday. --Thomas Ybarra KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pOndM0BPTilkv0YRAv4nAKCpXKeFONUNOt0CNQRvxcun8qZeRACePq5e LHRNbApYSUrlEgfKfn2lT/M= =JxWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 11:12:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C0337B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([65.93.38.74]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010916181241.HVYQ16065.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:12:41 -0400 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f8GI5uu54468; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <004101c13eda$40bdfcb0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: Cc: References: <20010915194031.K3356@jake.akitanet.co.uk> <4.3.2.7.2.20010916115841.0467c100@localhost> Subject: Re: Laptops & FreeBSD Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:06:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Glass" To: "Daniel O'Connor" ; "Paul Robinson" Cc: ; ; "KEPA" Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Laptops & FreeBSD > At 08:25 PM 9/15/2001, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > >Unless they're Lucent WinModems, or IBM MWave's... > > I tried to get an MWave working and did not succeed. Has someone > managed to do it? Unless you can convince IBM to cough up the source code for the drivers for their MWave products, I doubt it. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 11:22:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8638537B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there ([24.21.92.93]) by femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010916182233.MBXU22533.femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:22:33 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Joseph Grundy To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Audio problem Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:22:06 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010916182233.MBXU22533.femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I try to play an audio cd with the cd player in KDE I am running 4.4rc2. here is the output , I keep getting this all the time. I do have 2 scsi cdroms and one ata I use the ata for sound, its a dvd. then my burner and reader are scsi any ideas if i need to update something? thanks for any info (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x28d8792c in wait4 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #0 0x28d8792c in wait4 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #1 0x28d78917 in waitpid () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #2 0x286209b5 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler (signal=11) at kcrash.cpp:197 #3 0xbfbfffac in ?? () #4 0x805f3d1 in KSCD::volChanged () #5 0x8059241 in KSCD::initCDROM () #6 0x28897816 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #7 0x288ed0e9 in QTimer::timeout () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #8 0x288cf93f in QTimer::event () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #9 0x288466dd in QApplication::notify () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #10 0x285860c3 in KApplication::notify (this=0xbfbff99c, receiver=0x8108540, event=0xbfbff7f8) at kapp.cpp:525 #11 0x28817806 in qt_activate_timers () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #12 0x28815656 in QApplication::processNextEvent () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #13 0x2884854b in QApplication::enter_loop () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #14 0x28814f5f in QApplication::exec () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.4 #15 0x8072115 in main () #16 0x8057f95 in _start () To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 11:33:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7151437B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com ([24.141.119.162]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010916183343.QQQT9104.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com>; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:33:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8GIdOU72621; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:39:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:39:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: "Brian T.Schellenberger" , Fergus Cameron , Subject: Re: i dont unsterstand the disk label maker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010916140733.M72501-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16 Sep 2001, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Someone wrote: > > > > there IBM partitions on your disk. > > Anyone know the history of IBM-PC hard disk partitions? What this scheme > developed by IBM for their BIOS or by M$ for their M$-M$DOS and IBM-PCDOS, > or can we fairly call it a true conspiracy by both (to give people grief > well into the 21st Century)? Hi Gary, Don't know if this totally satisfies your curiosity, but there's some interesting reading here: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/5711/history.html http://www.maxframe.com/HISZMSD.HTM http://x86.ddj.com/articles/computalk/help.htm I think it had a lot to do with how many instructions would fit. There's a more technical article here: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/partitions/partition_types-2.html Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 12: 7:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC7337B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bri@localhost) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8GJ6Wx04471; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:06:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Whalen X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: redundant mail servers In-Reply-To: <1868.141.149.144.170.1000640220.squirrel@claven.hwi.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <20010916120603.T4428-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thought of just using 2 or more boxes with multiple mx records?? Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 rcollins@hwi.buffalo.edu wrote: > I'm looking to implement redundant mail servers. Load balancing would be > *very nice* considering the cost of the hardware, but redundancy is the > requirement. I would like to use freebsd, of course, but things are looking > pretty grim. Hopefully someone on the list can help me out. I have only > found one way to do this on freebsd and that is to use an application > solution such as polyserve's understudy. $3000 is a hunk of change though, > and they don't support anything past 4.1-RELEASE. Who knows what they are > going to support tomorrow, so I'm not too keen on that idea. > > The route that I would really like to take a shot at is to hook two freebsd > machines up to a multi-host scsi enclosure and use sistina's gfs for the > filesystem. The only problem there is gfs hasn't been ported to freebsd > yet. They have been promising a port for several years now, but one still > hasn't appeared. > > Anyone have any other ideas? > -rcollins > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 12:11:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jason-n3xt.org (42.mujb.dlls.dllstxbk.dsl.att.net [12.98.249.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3309537B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jason@localhost) by jason-n3xt.org (8.11.4/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8GJDMI04005 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:13:23 GMT (envelope-from jason@jason-n3xt.org) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:13:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail/Qmail Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having a bit of a problem. I need to get get main sent to a domain forwarded to another box. This box has the domain of jason-n3xt.org. A friend of mine wants to have mail sent to his domain forward to my box. His domain is sessy.net. So he wants *@sessy.net forwarded to my box (jason-n3xt.org). Do I have to write an MX record for sessy.net for this. If I do how should I write it? How do I setup sendmail and qmail to accept mail from sessy.net? TIA ---- Jason jason@jason-n3xt.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 13:37: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ardbeg.meer.net (ardbeg.meer.net [209.157.152.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D948837B411 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meer.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by ardbeg.meer.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8GKb4j26649 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there ([207.20.243.8]) by meer.meer.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/meer) with SMTP id NAA134415 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109162036.NAA134415@meer.meer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Johnson Organization: Usermode To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: A7A266 Motherboard Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:40:28 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a new computer with an A7A266 Motherboard. Unfortunately, FreeBSD crashes with a hard reboot whenever I try to enter X with it. This is a known bug (#28418). The core problem seems to be the ALI M1647 chipset (which controls the AGP). Currently I am unable to use FreeBSD because of this. Has anyone gotten FreeBSD to work with X on this motherboard? Is there a way to find out if this bug is being worked on (the bug report has never been updated)? Does anyone know of a workaround? Am I S.O.L.? -- David Johnson ___________________ http://www.usermode.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 13:53:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20103.mail.yahoo.com (web20103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BAAE37B413 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010916205314.33763.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [154.20.98.47] by web20103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:53:14 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT) From: ann kok Subject: openssh To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I would like to install openssh from tarball instead of port in freebsd because I read a linux book is it any different? and is the following correct? download: openssh-2.9p2.tar.gz from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/ tar -xzf openssh-2.9p2.tar.gz cd openssh-2.9p2 ./configure --with-tcp-wrappers ./configure --with-tcp-wrappers --prefix=/opt/openssh2 inetd.conf ssh stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/local/sbin/sshd -i etc/pam.d cd openssh-2.3.0p1/contrib cp sshd.pam.generic /etc/pam.d/sshd /usr/local/etc/sshd_config Many thanks __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 13:57:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-6.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D88337B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 19B3466D20; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:57:49 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: ann kok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: openssh Message-ID: <20010916135748.A21833@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010916205314.33763.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010916205314.33763.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>; from annkok2001@yahoo.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:53:14PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:53:14PM -0700, ann kok wrote: > Hi all >=20 > I would like to install openssh from tarball instead > of port in freebsd because I read a linux book >=20 > is it any different? Yes, it won't have the FreeBSD customizations, and you won't be able to deinstall it like you can with ports. Unless you have a real reason not to use the port, you should use it. Kris --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pRJMWry0BWjoQKURAgZAAKCkkueDQxlx8QKTDd+ZD6bBuXGOsgCgp0w+ Gy+QaactujnypQGjTvagbc4= =UcOp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 14: 9:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3784637B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010916210932.632.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [154.20.98.47] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:09:32 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:09:32 -0700 (PDT) From: ann kok Subject: Re: openssh To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010916135748.A21833@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Kris I just checked that www port has the following What is the different? apache+mod_ssl-1.3.20+2.8.4 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS functionality Long description | Package | Sources Maintained by: rse@engelschall.com Requires: mm-1.1.3 Also listed in: Security apache+ssl-1.3.12.1.40 Apache-SSL: Apache secure webserver integrating OpenSSL Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site Maintained by: adam@algroup.co.uk Also listed in: Security Thanks --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 01:53:14PM -0700, ann kok > wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I would like to install openssh from tarball > instead > > of port in freebsd because I read a linux book > > > > is it any different? > > Yes, it won't have the FreeBSD customizations, and > you won't be able > to deinstall it like you can with ports. Unless you > have a real > reason not to use the port, you should use it. > > Kris > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 14:22:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-6.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F9837B40D for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5FAB966D20; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:22:18 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: ann kok Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: openssh Message-ID: <20010916142218.A22382@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010916135748.A21833@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010916210932.632.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010916210932.632.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com>; from annkok2001@yahoo.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 02:09:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 02:09:32PM -0700, ann kok wrote: > Dear Kris >=20 > I just checked that www port has the following > What is the different? They're different software which do similar things..read the documentation. Kris --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pRgJWry0BWjoQKURAthyAKCWy4Y0I/kSkLGV+fCfGTwvmR8MFwCfUUgI faRHGAGC6yyK6q+Xo3NeI3Y= =xu5k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 14:53:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13402.mail.yahoo.com (web13402.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFD6B37B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010916215310.52881.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.174.80.114] by web13402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:53:10 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Briceno Subject: repquota hangs machine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just enabled quotas a FreeBSD 4.4 stable machine. The quota files have been created, but with all quotas set to "0" i.e. no quota. Quotas have been set for /home and /tmp. Both files systems have sufficient free space. I also turned on softupdates on all file systems except / at the same time. Logged in via ssh, I ran "repquota -a". The command seemed to hang and not produce any output, so I tried ^C and ^Z. Neither had any effect, instead, ^Z and ^C were printed to the ssh client terminal emulator. I disconnected and reconnected ssh. In the frist attempt, the motd scrolled past, but no shell prompt appeared. In all subsequent attempt, ssh tries to connect, but does not display anything. sshd is running. sendmail and httpd are still running. httpd is serving pages, though automated mail responder scrips running on the machine are not responding. Suggestions are appreciated. The machine is outside my physical reach; which makes logging from the console somewhat of a chore. Thanks, --Marc ===== -- Marc Briceno __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 15: 1: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Stalker.alfacom.net (Stalker.Alfacom.net [193.108.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156BF37B40C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (dup-124-94.Alfacom.net [193.108.124.94]) by Stalker.alfacom.net (8.12.0.Beta12/8.12.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id f8GM0Zc7007394; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:00:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (volodya@localhost) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8GLv9P06528; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:59:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@Alfacom.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kushnir1.kiev.ua: volodya owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:55:55 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: To: zhuravlev alexander Cc: Subject: Re: DIVX4 In-Reply-To: <501655406.20010916151115@ulstu.ru> Message-ID: <20010917004813.C49409-100000@kushnir1.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, zhuravlev alexander wrote: > is it posssible to view DIVX4 movies in FreeBSD ? > thanx. > > - zaa > Yes, of course: /usr/ports/graphics/{avifile,xmms+xmms-avi,xmps+xmps-win32-plugin} and (my favourite :-) /usr/ports/graphics/mplayer. BTW, this last you can use immediately from it's latest CVS version from - it should compile and run out of box provided you've got all nessessary libs and codecs. Hope this helps, Vladimir -- Vladimir Kushnir - vkushnir@Alfacom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 15:10: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from crb.crb-web.com (c2.e0bed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1049937B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wcuddy by crb.crb-web.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15ilD7-0004PQ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:20:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:20:25 -0500 From: Wayne Cuddy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: backspace does not delete previous character Message-ID: <20010916182025.A16926@crb-web.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I login to a Linux box via the console (sc driver). Backspace does not function as delete in vim and emacs. I end up having to hit the key in order to erase the previous character on the line. This is very cumbersome. Any tips on how to fix this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 15:10:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBEE337B412 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO RAMBUS) (216.179.225.200) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 22:10:53 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <001701c13efc$7b6853c0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> Reply-To: "DrTebi" From: "DrTebi" To: Subject: security level and system time question Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:11:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I understand that it is not possible to run ntpdate or date when in security level 2 -- at least not when the time is off by more than one second. I must say that's quite impossible to have a system clock that is not inaccurate, at least mine are all not. What could be done to fix this? I would prefer to stay in security level 2, but don't want my time to be off by 1 minute every month. Would it make sence to run a cron job (a'la ntpdate ntp.netcom.ca) every minute? Does that sound unreasonable? Is there any security risk running a cron job like that (since it would have to be root's cron job)? Thanks for any help. DrTebi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 15:29:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0234D37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonc by itouch.co.nz with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15ikPd-0007vy-00; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:29:17 +1200 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:29:16 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: DrTebi Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security level and system time question Message-ID: <20010917102916.C24994@itouchnz.itouch> References: <001701c13efc$7b6853c0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001701c13efc$7b6853c0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com>; from drtebi@yahoo.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:11:05PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:11:05PM -0700, DrTebi wrote: > Hello, > I understand that it is not possible to run ntpdate or date when in security > level 2 -- at least not when the time is off by more than one second. > I must say that's quite impossible to have a system clock that is not > inaccurate, at least mine are all not. > > What could be done to fix this? I would prefer to stay in security level 2, > but don't want my time to be off by 1 minute every month. > Would it make sence to run a cron job (a'la ntpdate ntp.netcom.ca) every > minute? Does that sound unreasonable? Use ntpd(8). Set the date once using ntpdate, then get ntpd(8) running. You can bump up your security level at this point, as ntpd will adjust the time while it's running. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Irrationality is the square root of all evil" - Douglas Hofstadter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 15:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0604737B40C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8GMdwK14481 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:39:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA29046 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:39:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 10374 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Sep 2001 22:39:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:39:55 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: DrTebi Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security level and system time question Message-ID: <20010917003954.A8822@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: DrTebi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <001701c13efc$7b6853c0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001701c13efc$7b6853c0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:11:05PM -0700, DrTebi wrote: > Hello, > I understand that it is not possible to run ntpdate or date when in security > level 2 -- at least not when the time is off by more than one second. > I must say that's quite impossible to have a system clock that is not > inaccurate, at least mine are all not. > > What could be done to fix this? I would prefer to stay in security level 2, > but don't want my time to be off by 1 minute every month. > Would it make sence to run a cron job (a'la ntpdate ntp.netcom.ca) every > minute? Does that sound unreasonable? Is there any security risk running a > cron job like that (since it would have to be root's cron job)? First run ntpdate at startup. (ntpdate_enable in rc.conf) This will set your system time before the securelevel is raised. Then run ntpd (xntpd_enable in rc.conf) which will make sure that your system time is always less than a second off. (Actually it will keep the system time even more accurate.) Running ntpd is much more efficient than running ntpdate often. I don't actually run at increased securelevels so I can't guarantee that this will work in that case but it should work fine. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 16:10:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F18E37B40F for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oemcomputer (user-uivfqiu.dsl.mindspring.com [165.247.234.94]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10207 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer> From: "Earle Lyons" To: Subject: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:06:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01C13EC9.8A9D5580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Disposition-Notification-To: "Earle Lyons" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C13EC9.8A9D5580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you have any articles that cover the question "Why FreeBSD 4.3 over = Redhat Linux 7"? Does FreeBSD have a graphical installation process? Thanks, earle lyons ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C13EC9.8A9D5580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do you have any articles that cover the = question=20 "Why FreeBSD 4.3 over Redhat Linux 7"?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C13EC9.8A9D5580-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 16:34:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (uta-ip196.ntc.off-campus.vt.edu [63.165.178.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC8337B40D for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from battleship (uta-ip196.ntc.off-campus.vt.edu [63.165.178.196]) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f8GNY2R99836; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003b01c13f08$10a176f0$095f5f0a@battleship> From: "Joseph Gleason" To: "Erik Trulsson" , "DrTebi" Cc: References: <001701c13efc$7b6853c0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> <20010917003954.A8822@student.uu.se> Subject: Re: security level and system time question Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:34:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would agree that ntpdate on bootup, then ntpd there after is a good idea. However, to avoid any security issues of running the ntpd service constantly, I do ntpdate every hour instead. Even at securily level 2, it does a good job. > On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:11:05PM -0700, DrTebi wrote: > > Hello, > > I understand that it is not possible to run ntpdate or date when in security > > level 2 -- at least not when the time is off by more than one second. > > I must say that's quite impossible to have a system clock that is not > > inaccurate, at least mine are all not. > > > > What could be done to fix this? I would prefer to stay in security level 2, > > but don't want my time to be off by 1 minute every month. > > Would it make sence to run a cron job (a'la ntpdate ntp.netcom.ca) every > > minute? Does that sound unreasonable? Is there any security risk running a > > cron job like that (since it would have to be root's cron job)? > > First run ntpdate at startup. > (ntpdate_enable in rc.conf) > This will set your system time before the securelevel is raised. > > Then run ntpd (xntpd_enable in rc.conf) which will make sure that your > system time is always less than a second off. (Actually it will keep > the system time even more accurate.) > Running ntpd is much more efficient than running ntpdate often. > > I don't actually run at increased securelevels so I can't guarantee > that this will work in that case but it should work fine. > > -- > > Erik Trulsson > ertr1013@student.uu.se > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 16:36:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E537637B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CD0A6AD6A; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:06:19 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:06:19 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Eric Lam Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: No debugger in kernel Message-ID: <20010917090619.C3782@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ecrim@earthlink.net on Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:08:18PM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 14 September 2001 at 16:08:18 -0700, Eric Lam wrote: > I keep getting a "No debugger in kernel" pop up randomly. Someone explain > what this means? Probably you're running code which calls the debugger. There's a stub which produces this message. Production code shouldn't call the debugger; if you can't find where it's coming from, build a kernel with DDB and see where it's coming from. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 16:54:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E7E37B40E; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zidane.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:mirapoint@zidane.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.184]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8GNsDY400880; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from enterprise.muriel.penguinpowered.com (hc652647d.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.100.125]) by zidane.cc.vt.edu (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACQ16283; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.5.0.FreeBSD:20010916195115:416=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <200109132350.SAA51099@aurora.sol.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Heffner To: Joe Greco Subject: Re: anonymous-ftp cracked Cc: jacks@sage-american.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.5.0.FreeBSD:20010916195115:416=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 13-Sep-2001 Joe Greco wrote: |> Ted: I've been watching this one because I've HAD to allow uploads to |> incoming because of a need for such a place article submissions from |> our |> Tech mag website from 175+ countries. |> |> Your tips for monitoring (like the script for a daily listing of the |> directory) are so simple and obvious it put a smile on my face. Thanks! |> LUV |> this list! | | Assuming you're using wuftpd: Assuming you're using -current: You could also try lukemftpd, and use the 'maxfilesize' and 'rateget' configuration settings. See http://people.freebsd.org/~mikeh/diffs/lukemftpd/ for instructions for connecting it to the build. Mike -- Mike Heffner Blacksburg, VA --_=XFMail.1.5.0.FreeBSD:20010916195115:416=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pTryFokZQs3sv5kRAjXVAKCGRPrHoi4bmFd0bZ0f7DUQwrR7wQCdFmY7 4KSNZAzHwa+v3dI+wG71NIY= =TyXf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --_=XFMail.1.5.0.FreeBSD:20010916195115:416=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 16:57:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.plug.cx (kypo.alfred.cx [150.101.93.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF42A37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.plug.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 99B4E2B8B7; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:30:09 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:30:08 +0930 From: Andrew Reid To: Earle Lyons Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Message-ID: <20010917093008.B10507@plug.cx> References: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer>; from elyons@email.uophx.edu on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 04:06:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 04:06:27PM -0700, Earle Lyons wrote: > Do you have any articles that cover the question "Why FreeBSD 4.3 over Redhat Linux 7"? Get your hands on each OS and try it for yourself. I gave up on RedHat when the 7.x line started shipping. Besides, the Linux development world seems a bit screwed to me. > Does FreeBSD have a graphical installation process? For some definition of "graphical", though not in the sense that you're suggesting, I feel. - andrew -- void signature () { cout << "Andrew Reid -- andrew.reid@plug.cx" << endl ; cout << "Cell: +61 401 946 813" << endl; cout << "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur" << endl; } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 17: 9:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sushi.toad.net (sushi.toad.net [162.33.130.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C7837B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bears (jeremy@core19d71.dynamic-dialup.toad.net [162.33.189.71]) by sushi.toad.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f8H09e230397 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:09:40 -0400 Received: by bears (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:07:31 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Vim is both installed and uninstalled? (trying again) From: Jeremy Date: 17 Sep 2001 20:07:31 -0500 Message-ID: <87g09lpar0.fsf@yahoo.com> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I tried to install vim 5.x from the packages directory on the 4.3 FreeBSD cd (downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org) and when I originally installed it, my computer thrashed around for a bit, and then it ended with something about "enable MOTIF="yes" in make.conf" or something similar to that. (unfortunately I didn't write it down at the time) I've read that some others on the list had a problem with an error about libX[something] not found when trying to run vim, so I thought that since I didn't have X installed, I'd just pkg_delete it. When I tried to do that, it told me that vim wasn't installed. When I tried to re-install it so that I could possibly get that error message again and try to figure out what was going on, it told me that vim was already installed! So, evidentally, I have vim in a state where it's both installed and not installed. So my question is this. How do I uninstall a package that comes up both installed and not installed? Is there a certain directory I have to run pkg_delete from in order for it to remove it? Thanks for your help, Jeremy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 17:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c1828785-a.saltlk1.ut.home.com (c1828785-a.saltlk1.ut.home.com [24.20.97.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91E037B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (fmhmda@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1828785-a.saltlk1.ut.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f8H09Xf00986; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:09:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mupi@mknet.org) Message-Id: <200109170009.f8H09Xf00986@c1828785-a.saltlk1.ut.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mike Porter To: Bill Schoolcraft , Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 & Netscape 6.x Stability Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:09:33 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 15 September 2001 11:25 am, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > At Fri, 14 Sep 2001 it looks like Brian T.Schellenberger composed: > > bts->- StarOffice works great under FreeBSD. > > Hmm, I had nothing but hassles trying to get StarOffice to install. > I have both an original SUN StarOffice-5.1a CD, and the > StarOffice-5.2 CD and have tried the ports too. > > Could you take the time to share your installation experience ? I'm > running FreeBSD-4.2 I had some trouble installing, but only because somehow in the process of wiping my system and reinstalling, I managed to comment out the line in /etc/fstab about procfs being mounted on /proc..... the install routine attempts to communicate with itself via /proc. It works better if you add a line for linuxproc mounted to /compat/linux/proc, too. Here's mine: linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 1 Other than that, I have had no trouble with it following the port directions. make make install a message appears about closing X, and logging on as your "normal" user, and running make install-user. A caveat, though, the linuxulator in 4.2 may not be glibc version 2.1.2, which 2.1 or higher is required for StarOffice, at least the 5.2 version. If you have the CD, there is a variable WITH_CDROM you can use to have the port installer install from your CD instead. try "make install WITH_CDROM=YES" Beyond that, without specific error messages, I don't know what to suggest. BTW it seems that since my little fiasco, the maintainer has added a check for linprocfs to the Makefile. Might have saved *me* a lot of grief, but its nice to know things get fixed when you report them, so kudos to him if he reads this list. And if not, if any of you know him, feel free to pass on my appreciation... <(}: mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 17:12:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AA237B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ss11232 (203-79-72-40.cable.paradise.net.nz [203.79.72.40]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28B81F9C7E for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:12:08 +1200 (NZST) From: "Richard Shea" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:11:19 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Reply-To: rshea@thecubagroup.com Message-ID: <3BA5E867.11980.178C6F64@localhost> In-reply-to: <20010917093008.B10507@plug.cx> References: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer>; from elyons@email.uophx.edu on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 04:06:27PM -0700 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Does FreeBSD have a graphical installation process? > > For some definition of "graphical", though not in the sense that you're > suggesting, I feel. > Just my 2c on this front - I think it's fair to say it's "graphical enough". You are provided with a series of menus from which you are invited to pick selections. You don't have to edit config files etc to do the install. I found it very friendly. In some senses the larger issue isn't telling the machine what you want so much as knowing what the significance of some of your answers are. That is just as true of FreeBSD as Linux. regards richard shea. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Cuba Group PO Box 1864 Wellington New Zealand PH +64 4 496 5205 MO +64 21 296 6839 FX +64 4 496 5209 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 17:12:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB69037B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO RAMBUS) (216.179.225.200) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 00:12:41 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <008901c13f0d$7eaa4fa0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> Reply-To: "DrTebi" From: "DrTebi" To: References: <001701c13efc$7b6853c0$c8e1b3d8@liquidground.com> <20010917003954.A8822@student.uu.se> <003b01c13f08$10a176f0$095f5f0a@battleship> Subject: Re: security level and system time question Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:12:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to everyone, it worked and my time is up to date now. One thing I would like to add is that I also had to set ntpdate_flags="ntp.netcom.ca" so that ntpdate works at bootup. Are there any security risks running ntpd? If yes, how could they be fixed/limited? DrTebi > I would agree that ntpdate on bootup, then ntpd there after is a good idea. > > However, to avoid any security issues of running the ntpd service > constantly, I do ntpdate every hour instead. Even at securily level 2, it > does a good job. > > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 03:11:05PM -0700, DrTebi wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I understand that it is not possible to run ntpdate or date when in > security > > > level 2 -- at least not when the time is off by more than one second. > > > I must say that's quite impossible to have a system clock that is not > > > inaccurate, at least mine are all not. > > > > > > What could be done to fix this? I would prefer to stay in security level > 2, > > > but don't want my time to be off by 1 minute every month. > > > Would it make sence to run a cron job (a'la ntpdate ntp.netcom.ca) every > > > minute? Does that sound unreasonable? Is there any security risk running > a > > > cron job like that (since it would have to be root's cron job)? > > > > First run ntpdate at startup. > > (ntpdate_enable in rc.conf) > > This will set your system time before the securelevel is raised. > > > > Then run ntpd (xntpd_enable in rc.conf) which will make sure that your > > system time is always less than a second off. (Actually it will keep > > the system time even more accurate.) > > Running ntpd is much more efficient than running ntpdate often. > > > > I don't actually run at increased securelevels so I can't guarantee > > that this will work in that case but it should work fine. > > > > -- > > > > Erik Trulsson > > ertr1013@student.uu.se > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 17:40:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DFB37B412 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomcat ([12.93.208.32]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010917004000.OYJL8481.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@tomcat>; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:40:00 +0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Earle Lyons" , Subject: RE: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:39:49 -0400 Message-ID: <002801c13f11$41fbcee0$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Earle, Love the HTML message (psst... please don't do it again, HTML e-mail is bad, especially if you want a response). Why FreeBSD over RedHat 7? Well, let's see... first and foremost... FreeBSD ships with the proper tools to do a kernel recompile, as opposed to our "friends" from the other side... (wonder how many heads rolled after that happened?). Secondly, the stability of FreeBSD. Linux may be nice, but there are questions regarding it's stability as compared to that of a FreeBSD system. There are other reasons, covered by those with more knowledge. As far as a graphical interface for the install. Yes and no. Yes as far as having something aside from a plain console type install and no with respect to having a full blown EGA/VGA install routine. After all, you're only going to see the install routine once, why put time into making it pretty? *grins* --- Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Earle Lyons Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:06 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Do you have any articles that cover the question "Why FreeBSD 4.3 over Redhat Linux 7"? Does FreeBSD have a graphical installation process? Thanks, earle lyons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 17:46:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28AE737B40C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.232) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 00:46:16 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:53:23 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd-questions Subject: soft updates Message-Id: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i'm looking at the freebsd handbook right now, trying to decide if i should use soft-updates on my box. i can't afford to lose any data, that is written in stone. it says: "First, Soft Updates guarantees filesystem consistency in the case of a crash..." is this true? it also lists two "problems" that might occur using it. one would be that it 'runs' out of space if my drive is close to being full. thats not an issue, niether is the 2nd problem basically what i'm asking is is it stable? and how much of a performance gain am i gonna see? thanks nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18: 0:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.plug.cx (kypo.alfred.cx [150.101.93.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F7E37B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.plug.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 54A4E2B8B7; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:33:00 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:32:59 +0930 From: Andrew Reid To: Richard Shea Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Message-ID: <20010917103259.D10666@plug.cx> References: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer>; <20010917093008.B10507@plug.cx> <3BA5E867.11980.178C6F64@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BA5E867.11980.178C6F64@localhost>; from rshea@thecubagroup.com on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 12:11:19PM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 12:11:19PM +1200, Richard Shea wrote: > > For some definition of "graphical", though not in the sense that you're > > suggesting, I feel. > > Just my 2c on this front - I think it's fair to say it's "graphical > enough". You are provided with a series of menus from which you > are invited to pick selections. You don't have to edit config files etc > to do the install. I found it very friendly. Me too. The only area in which (I believe) the RedHat installer seems to excel in is disk partitioning. Whilst the FreeBSD installer isn't too bad, it can be a bit scary for new users. > In some senses the larger issue isn't telling the machine what you > want so much as knowing what the significance of some of your > answers are. That is just as true of FreeBSD as Linux. Hmm... - andrew -- void signature () { cout << "Andrew Reid -- andrew.reid@plug.cx" << endl ; cout << "Cell: +61 401 946 813" << endl; cout << "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur" << endl; } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18: 3:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C3D637B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.232) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 01:03:54 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:11:00 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: "Andrew C. Hornback" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Message-Id: <20010916211100.73ac9592.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <002801c13f11$41fbcee0$0e00000a@tomcat> References: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer> <002801c13f11$41fbcee0$0e00000a@tomcat> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG as a recent convert from linux to freebsd...i can give you MANY reasons 1) RPM's suck....plain and simple. the ports collection beats RPM in every way 2) the only way to upgrade from redhat 7.1 to 7.2(when it comes out) is to wipe out everything and re-install. 3)last week we had a webserver crash(hardware failure) it was running redhat 5.2. we got a new hardrive, installed redhat 7.1 and guess what? between 5.2 and 7.1 they changed the filesystem so that the old version couldn't read the newer version. i'm not sure if this was linux in general or redhat specifally. 4) ever tried to understand RH's /etc stucture? talk about symlink heaven i could think of some more if you wanted....but don't get me wrong. i'm not bashing linux or redhat. in fact about 3 years ago i installed redhat 5.1 and got hooked. i've been using free Unis OS's ever since. i've tried nearly every linux ditro out there in the past 3 years. i'm just now getting into the *BSD's. and for my needs freebsd has worked better in the past 3 weeks than any linux distro has worked in the past 3 years. the biggest difference to me is installing software. two words for you: "RPM Hell". for me bsd rocks. for you maybe linux is what you need. their both free, giv each one a good solid honest try and see which works and which doesn't. if there was anything specific in the orginal email, sorry. i just joined the list and seems that i caught the tail end of the conversation nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18: 9:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10907.mail.yahoo.com (web10907.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 135E337B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010917010940.66086.qmail@web10907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.61.155.10] by web10907.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:09:40 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:09:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Gozdzicki Subject: 4.4-RC5 boot floppies To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freeebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I am unable to install 4.4-RC5 because the boot floppies do not detect my IDE controller and also there are problems loading *.ko files. My motherboard is ASUS P4T-M. By the way, the boot floppies from 4.3-RELEASE were ok. Regards, Chris __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18:10:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts6.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD8237B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d.tracker ([65.92.119.129]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010917011029.RGFH3425.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@d.tracker>; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:10:29 -0400 Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8H1DtS12373; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:13:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: David Banning Message-Id: <200109170113.f8H1DtS12373@d.tracker> To: david@skytrackercanada.com, jfreeze@freebsdportal.com Subject: Re: Need help with XFree86, 4.3R and ATI Rage XL card (fwd) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A simple rage fury card. It has video out but as yet I have not figured out how that is supported. The graphics work fine. For video-in I am using a WinTV board. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18:17: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54FE37B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sephiroth (unknown [63.112.157.73]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E64B23ECE; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:20:23 -0400 From: Matthew Graybosch To: Nathan Mace Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD over Redhat Linux? Message-Id: <20010916212023.6288deb1.matthew@starbreaker.net> In-Reply-To: <20010916211100.73ac9592.nmace85@yahoo.com> References: <004a01c13f04$378b9c40$5eeaf7a5@oemcomputer> <002801c13f11$41fbcee0$0e00000a@tomcat> <20010916211100.73ac9592.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.3 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16 September 2001 you wrote: > the biggest difference to me is installing software. two words for you: "RPM Hell". That's the main reason for me dumping SuSE (which is based on RPM) and switched to Slackware. But Slack wants to stick GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment, and all my favorite windowmanagers in /opt when (IMHO) they belong in /usr/X11R6 Then again, just getting away from RPM is reason enough. ****** Matthew Graybosch [matthew@starbreaker.net] http://www.starbreaker.net :: where dreams and reality collide The SNAFU Principle: "True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18:17:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mbox.com.au (smtp2.mbox.com.au [203.103.80.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF6A37B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nms2.mbox.com.au (webmail.i7mail.com.au [192.168.20.4]) by smtp2.mbox.com.au (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0GJS0009D8TWBY@smtp2.mbox.com.au> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:15:32 +0800 (WST) Received: from mbox.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by nms2.mbox.com.au (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GJS8TW01.MJY for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:15:32 +0800 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:15:32 +1100 From: BSD Freak Subject: NDS for FreeBSD To: FreeBSD Questions Message-id: <42d42b429602.42960242d42b@mbox.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone managed to get NSD for Linux working under FreeBSD? We need to move to NDS to consolidate all our Windows / Unix / Novell user accounts. However some of our main file servers run FreeBSD and I would hate to have to migrate to Linux just for NDS suppport. Nothing's as fast and clean as FreeBSD and I would really like to be able to run NDS on the FreeBSD boxes. Anyone done/know how to do this? I could not find a port in the prts collection.... Please help a BSD junkie.....:-( --------------------------------------------------------------------- Would you like a mobile office from only $29.95 per year? Visit http://www.mbox.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18:28:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32BC37B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11048 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2001 01:28:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mgm) ([216.27.148.137]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Sep 2001 01:28:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c13f18$213b8b80$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> Reply-To: "jason" From: "jason" To: Subject: Missing Operating System Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:29:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4 times in a row now I have had the same trouble. I have a old Pentium 100 box with 500MB SCSI drive which is not upgradeable because due to BIOS issues. I had a minimal BSD install and Sendmail running before but somehow screwed up Sendmail to the point it would not run anymore. I was trying to find a way to make sendmail relay for certain individuals who have accounts without having using their own email programs. Because things were so bad I decided to start over from scratch but am unable to boot the OS. Here is what I am doing: 1-Booted on Floppy created with latest flp files on the freebsd ftp site. 2-Selected auto for the partitioning and file system creation. 3-Selected minimal for install type. 4-Selected ftp.freebsd.org as install media source. 5-Selected Commit. It takes hours to download and install over my 144k IDSL line and when completed it asks if I want to view any post install options. I say no and exit the installer. It reboots and after the memory check it states "Missing Operating System" and freezes. I have done this 3 times now and have had the same result. The version it is trying to install is 4.3-Release (at least that's what it tells me. any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18:29:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DDA37B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sephiroth (unknown [63.112.157.73]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5713F23F09; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:32:37 -0400 From: Matthew Graybosch To: BSD Freak Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NDS for FreeBSD Message-Id: <20010916213237.0b222225.matthew@starbreaker.net> In-Reply-To: <42d42b429602.42960242d42b@mbox.com.au> References: <42d42b429602.42960242d42b@mbox.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.3 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know the exact details, Freak, but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to run NDS under FreeBSD's Linux-compatibility mode. ****** Matthew Graybosch [matthew@starbreaker.net] http://www.starbreaker.net :: where dreams and reality collide The SNAFU Principle: "True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18:35:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uce55.uchaswv.edu (uce55.uchaswv.edu [12.4.161.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F65D37B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cheech.uchaswv.edu ([172.16.32.40]) by uce55.uchaswv.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA26868; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:42:23 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: "jason" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Missing Operating System Message-Id: <20010916214223.57b1081a.mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu> In-Reply-To: <000d01c13f18$213b8b80$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> References: <000d01c13f18$213b8b80$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it sounds to me like it isn't installing a bootloader. did you tell it to install on the MBR? maybe it's in the post-install configs? of course there's not way to tell without that long d/l AGAIN. do you have access to a CD-writer? instead of d/ling it 50 billion times why not get an iso image? that way it won't take so long if you ever have to re-install nathan On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:29:00 -0400 "jason" wrote: > 4 times in a row now I have had the same trouble. I have a old Pentium 100 > box with 500MB SCSI drive which is not upgradeable because due to BIOS > issues. > > I had a minimal BSD install and Sendmail running before but somehow screwed > up Sendmail to the point it would not run anymore. I was trying to find a > way to make sendmail relay for certain individuals who have accounts without > having using their own email programs. > > Because things were so bad I decided to start over from scratch but am > unable to boot the OS. Here is what I am doing: > 1-Booted on Floppy created with latest flp files on the freebsd ftp site. > 2-Selected auto for the partitioning and file system creation. > 3-Selected minimal for install type. > 4-Selected ftp.freebsd.org as install media source. > 5-Selected Commit. > > It takes hours to download and install over my 144k IDSL line and when > completed it asks if I want to view any post install options. I say no and > exit the installer. > It reboots and after the memory check it states "Missing Operating System" > and freezes. > > I have done this 3 times now and have had the same result. The version it > is trying to install is 4.3-Release (at least that's what it tells me. > > any ideas? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 18:38: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7149E37B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.232) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 01:38:05 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:45:11 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: freebsd-questions Subject: benchmarks Message-Id: <20010916214511.1fd682d1.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG seeing as how i'm about to turn on soft updates on my box for the 1st time i was wondering if there is any free benchmarking software out there that i can use for a sort of before and after kinda thing. i know there is always timing a buildworld, but i was kinda hoping for something a little bit more exact. thanks nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 19:21:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cybersurf.net (smtp2.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5898337B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 3web.net ([209.197.185.105]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJSBUT00.F34 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:20:53 -0600 Received: by 3web.net (EzMTS MTSAgent 1.22b Service) ; Sun, 16 Sep 01 20:21:07 -0600 for Received: from 3web.net (127.0.0.1) by 3web.net (EzMTS MTSSmtp 1.50 Service) ; Sun, 16 Sep 01 15:18:53 -0600 for Received: by mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:18:33 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:18:30 -0600 From: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net> To: Freebsd Questions Subject: Slice/Partition thread -- follow-up Message-ID: <20010916151830.A132273@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Freebsd Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Envelope-Receiver: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've read and re-read the recent thread concerning fdisk/disklabel -- slices/partitions. Life and Unix are not always straight forward ;) I've attempted to recap and summarise the meat of the said thread as follows. Would you guys please review it, amending where necessary. ################################################################## BSD views a HDD as a combination of "slices" and "partittions". BSD is able to carve up a HDD into a maximum of 4 slices using the BSD version of 'fdisk'. BSD carves up slices into a maximum of 8 sub-divisions called "partitions" (a to h) using 'disklabel'. BSD will recognize an existing DOS primary partition, and use it as one of its slices. A BSD slice is roughly equivalent to a DOS primary partition , as well as a DOS extended partition. The BSD slice/partition system of organizing a HDD, can be looked at as being similar to a directory/sub-directory tree. As such, the BSD terminology 'ad0s1a', can be "inflated" and "decoded" as follows: a (or s) d0 s1 a-h a=ATA HDD HDD #1 slice #1 s=SCSI HDD |__________ partition a |__________ partition b | . | . |__________ partition h The remaining 3 allowed HDD slices would be called: a (or s) d0 s2 a-h a (or s) d0 s3 a-h a (or s) d0 s4 a-h The first slice of HDD #2 would be called: ad1s1a BSD has predetermined the usage of some of its partitions as follows: Partition Usage --------- ----- a boot b swap c entire disk d-h user defined #################################################################### Well that's it! What have I screwed up? Can it be better said? After your reviews and amendments, I'm going to print out the resultant FAQ and take it to out local High School and *see* if the FAQ flies. ;) TIA.... -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 19:32:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C7637B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f8H2Wa618036; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Brian Whalen" , Cc: Subject: RE: redundant mail servers Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:32:35 -0700 Message-ID: <006101c13f21$02f70ba0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010916120603.T4428-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG His problem isn't in the SMTP servers, it is how do you centralize all the mailboxes? rcollins, what you might consider doing is creating a minimum of 3 servers, two of them would be SMTP recievers, and the last would be the spool server. Export that server's spool via NFS and mount it onto the SMTP recievers. Run the pop server on the spool server. Consider also something else when your doing your redundancy planning. Do you have redundant network connections? A set of redundant mailservers is pointless unless your multihomed and running BGP4 and have your own AS number and all that. Let me reveal this: for a total of 5 YEARS the primary mailserver at the ISP I run had no redundancy at all - not even raid. (I have since replaced it with much better and more redundant hardware) However, over that time period ALL of the problems we had with mail were network-related and we are multihomed! While it may be sexy to have multiple hardware boxes, the mailserver hardware is by no means the weakest link in the system and you should not be bothering with it until you have strengthened everything else associated with the mail system. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Brian Whalen >Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 12:07 PM >To: rcollins@hwi.buffalo.edu >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: redundant mail servers > > >Thought of just using 2 or more boxes with multiple mx records?? > >Brian "Sonic" Whalen >Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > >On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 rcollins@hwi.buffalo.edu wrote: > >> I'm looking to implement redundant mail servers. Load balancing would be >> *very nice* considering the cost of the hardware, but redundancy is the >> requirement. I would like to use freebsd, of course, but things are looking >> pretty grim. Hopefully someone on the list can help me out. I have only >> found one way to do this on freebsd and that is to use an application >> solution such as polyserve's understudy. $3000 is a hunk of change though, >> and they don't support anything past 4.1-RELEASE. Who knows what they are >> going to support tomorrow, so I'm not too keen on that idea. >> >> The route that I would really like to take a shot at is to hook two freebsd >> machines up to a multi-host scsi enclosure and use sistina's gfs for the >> filesystem. The only problem there is gfs hasn't been ported to freebsd >> yet. They have been promising a port for several years now, but one still >> hasn't appeared. >> >> Anyone have any other ideas? >> -rcollins >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:10:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mbox.com.au (smtp2.mbox.com.au [203.103.80.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC3C37B40E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nms2.mbox.com.au (webmail.i7mail.com.au [192.168.20.4]) by smtp2.mbox.com.au (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0GJS00A7VE1D3E@smtp2.mbox.com.au> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:08:01 +0800 (WST) Received: from mbox.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by nms2.mbox.com.au (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GJSE1D02.OJ4 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:08:01 +0800 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:08:01 +1100 From: BSD Freak Subject: FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT To: FreeBSD Questions Message-id: <441f8543fad4.43fad4441f85@mbox.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Everyone, Does I have all the FreeBSD-RELEASE CD's ISO's etc... What is the best way to get a machine running FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT. As far as I have seen there are no ISO available for download, only the source. Is there a way to upgrade a 4.3 machine to 5.0 - CURRENT or do I have to compile the binaries and run a 5.0 installation. Does this have anything to do with make world? It would be great if someone could steer me into the right direction... Thank All.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- It is easy. It is mBox. All your messages go where you go http://www.mbox.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:13:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.com (c1737881-a.plano1.tx.home.com [65.10.46.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9062537B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcbrune@localhost) by home.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8H3DdQ78574; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:13:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mcbrune) From: mcbrune Message-Id: <200109170313.f8H3DdQ78574@home.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT In-Reply-To: <441f8543fad4.43fad4441f85@mbox.com.au> To: BSD Freak Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:13:39 -0500 (CDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL92 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check out the handbook- the link is on www.freebsd.org. Corey > Hi Everyone, > > Does I have all the FreeBSD-RELEASE CD's ISO's etc... What is the best > way to get a machine running FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT. > > As far as I have seen there are no ISO available for download, only the > source. > > Is there a way to upgrade a 4.3 machine to 5.0 - CURRENT or do I have > to compile the binaries and run a 5.0 installation. > > Does this have anything to do with make world? > > It would be great if someone could steer me into the right direction... > > > Thank All.... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > It is easy. It is mBox. All your messages go where you go > http://www.mbox.com.au > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:29:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A170837B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bri@localhost) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8H3SbE05292; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Whalen X-X-Sender: To: Wayne Cuddy Cc: Subject: Re: backspace does not delete previous character In-Reply-To: <20010916182025.A16926@crb-web.com> Message-ID: <20010916202806.V5270-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tried stty erase ^H in a login file?? Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Wayne Cuddy wrote: > When I login to a Linux box via the console (sc driver). Backspace does not > function as delete in vim and emacs. I end up having to hit the key > in order to erase the previous character on the line. This is very > cumbersome. Any tips on how to fix this? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:31:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20405.mail.yahoo.com (web20405.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CDFD37B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010917033143.59127.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.30.54.42] by web20405.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:31:43 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bela Bartok Subject: term To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, i often telnet to solaris and aix boxes, and i always have problems with terminal emulation, for example, i telnet to sunos and i cant run pico. I would like to know how can i set up my freebsd box to be as generic as possible? my term variable is set to term=cons25 which is freebsd default.Should i change it? thanks. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:35:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dv-db.com (dv-db.com [207.159.141.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2784437B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mark2 (host217-35-34-245.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.35.34.245]) by dv-db.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA25624; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 04:34:52 +0100 (GMT/BST) Message-ID: <008a01c13f29$9e469780$0200a8c0@mark2> From: "Mark Hughes" To: "BSD Freak" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <441f8543fad4.43fad4441f85@mbox.com.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 04:33:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does I have all the FreeBSD-RELEASE CD's ISO's etc... What is the best > way to get a machine running FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT. > > As far as I have seen there are no ISO available for download, only the > source. > > Is there a way to upgrade a 4.3 machine to 5.0 - CURRENT or do I have > to compile the binaries and run a 5.0 installation. > > Does this have anything to do with make world? > > It would be great if someone could steer me into the right direction... I think the basic rule says that if you have to ask that question, you shouldn't be running -CURRENT. -CURRENT is the development branch of FreeBSD and not for production use - sometimes it won't compile, sometimes it will compile but won't boot (according to the handbook, if I remember correctly, I don't run it myself :+) ), and it's generally more "dangerous" than the -STABLE branch. That said, if you do want to run it the only way of doing so is CVSup'ing to the -CURRENT tree, then following the instructions in the handbook at www.freebsd.org for making, building and installing the world, as far as I know. Hope this helps, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:35:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (ci590846-b.lxintn1.ky.home.com [24.9.218.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D87237B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfreeze@localhost) by CI590846-B.freebsdportal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06881 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:45:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jfreeze@freebsdportal.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:45:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-Sender: jfreeze@CI590846-B.lxintn1.ky.home.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mouse problems with XFree86 and SiS 6326 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all: I finally got XFree86 running on 4.3R with a SiS 6326 PCI video card. I start x11 with startx and I get a default window manager. However, my mouse is stuck in the upper right hand corner. When I move the mouse, a menu flickers on the screen. I don't know if it is a video driver compatability problem or a mouse driver problem. I have a standard PS/2 mouse and am using the /dev/mouse device. Has anyone experienced this problem? Thanks ========================================================= Jim Freeze --------------------------------------------------------- jfreeze@freebsdportal.com ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:35:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877DB37B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bri@localhost) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8H3Yxw05319; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:34:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Whalen X-X-Sender: To: Bela Bartok Cc: Subject: Re: term In-Reply-To: <20010917033143.59127.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010916203429.S5270-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG tried vt100, 102, or xterm for terminal types? The first 2 are the most generic.. Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Bela Bartok wrote: > hi, i often telnet to solaris and aix boxes, and i > always have problems with terminal emulation, for > example, i telnet to sunos and i cant run pico. > I would like to know how can i set up my freebsd box > to be as generic as possible? my term variable is set > to term=cons25 which is freebsd default.Should i > change it? > > thanks. > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:38: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-168.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE56637B40E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 715A166D20; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:37:51 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: BSD Freak Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT Message-ID: <20010916203751.A26142@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <441f8543fad4.43fad4441f85@mbox.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <441f8543fad4.43fad4441f85@mbox.com.au>; from bsd-freak@mbox.com.au on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:08:01PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:08:01PM +1100, BSD Freak wrote: > Hi Everyone, >=20 > Does I have all the FreeBSD-RELEASE CD's ISO's etc... What is the best= =20 > way to get a machine running FreeBSD 5.0 - CURRENT.=20 >=20 > As far as I have seen there are no ISO available for download, only the= =20 > source.=20 >=20 > Is there a way to upgrade a 4.3 machine to 5.0 - CURRENT or do I have=20 > to compile the binaries and run a 5.0 installation.=20 >=20 > Does this have anything to do with make world? >=20 > It would be great if someone could steer me into the right direction... Basically, if you can't figure out how to upgrade to -current on your own, you shouldn't be running it. FreeBSD-CURRENT is for experienced developers only; there are sharp edges, at any given moment some things may not work, and you need to know how to recover from crashes and catastrophic failures on your own without relying on technical support. Kris --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pXAOWry0BWjoQKURAoHyAKDj9r408Hv/S3/cwVrxLcxq1cONLgCg9N1w aGcuKJmLnF4NIb9hJ3CHrCA= =dHy5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:48: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mmu.edu.my (ext-dns.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625A837B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.12]) by mmu.edu.my (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22023; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:44:00 +0800 (MYT) Received: from there ([10.100.99.40]) by venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20548; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:43:54 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <200109170343.LAA20548@venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: nuzrin yaapar Reply-To: nuzrin@goose.net.my Organization: multimedia university To: Nathan Mace , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: soft updates Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:55:59 +0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it's very stable..i've been using it for as long as i can remember and the performance gain is significant On Monday 17 September 2001 8:53 am, Nathan Mace wrote: > i'm looking at the freebsd handbook right now, trying to decide if i should > use soft-updates on my box. i can't afford to lose any data, that is > written in stone. > > it says: "First, Soft Updates guarantees filesystem consistency in the case > of a crash..." is this true? it also lists two "problems" that might > occur using it. one would be that it 'runs' out of space if my drive is > close to being full. thats not an issue, niether is the 2nd problem > > basically what i'm asking is is it stable? and how much of a performance > gain am i gonna see? thanks > > nathan > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:50:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F84D37B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32844 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2001 04:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proxy.the-i-pa.com) (151.201.71.210) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 04:00:43 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bill Moran Organization: Potential Technology To: Nathan Mace , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: soft updates Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:53:20 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091623532001.12342@proxy.the-i-pa.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 September 2001 20:53, Nathan Mace wrote: > i'm looking at the freebsd handbook right now, trying to decide if i should > use soft-updates on my box. i can't afford to lose any data, that is > written in stone. > > it says: "First, Soft Updates guarantees filesystem consistency in the case > of a crash..." is this true? it also lists two "problems" that might > occur using it. one would be that it 'runs' out of space if my drive is > close to being full. thats not an issue, niether is the 2nd problem > > basically what i'm asking is is it stable? and how much of a performance > gain am i gonna see? thanks I've been running softupdates on a number of production machines for over a year now - many of them in concert with vinum. I'll have to say that the stability is there. Some of these machines are in sketchy environments, where power outages are far too common, as well as itchy employees that hit the power switch on the server at the first sign of trouble. An unexpected shutdown has never caused a softupdates filesystem to fail to fsck and remount. In the worst case I've seen, I had to run fsck manually to get things going again, but it worked. In case you aren't aware, I've never seen nor heard of softupdates causing data corruption under normal conditions - only with unclean shutdowns, and in that case, any filesystem is liable to get corrupted. I can't vouch personally for the performance section, as I've never really tested it. There are many resources on the internet, however. The only drawback to softupdates that I know of, is it's actually _slower_ on machines with extremely low RAM. (i.e. there is so little RAM that the system regularly needs to swap during normal operation) I seriously doubt that this is a problem right now, with RAM prices what they are. -- Bill Moran Potential Technology technical services (412) 793-4257 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:53: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from crb.crb-web.com (c2.e0bed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AC837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wcuddy by crb.crb-web.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15iqYs-0004j8-00; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:03:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:03:14 -0500 From: Wayne Cuddy To: Brian Whalen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backspace does not delete previous character Message-ID: <20010917000314.A18070@crb-web.com> References: <20010916182025.A16926@crb-web.com> <20010916202806.V5270-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010916202806.V5270-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com>; from bri@sonicboom.org on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 08:28:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes I did and it worked. However it appears that the value of erase needs to be set differently based on the originating hosts. Are there any slick ways to handle these different cases automatically in .profile? Thanks for the response. Wayne On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 08:28:36PM -0700, Brian Whalen wrote: > Tried > stty erase ^H > in a login file?? > > > Brian "Sonic" Whalen > Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Wayne Cuddy wrote: > > > When I login to a Linux box via the console (sc driver). Backspace does not > > function as delete in vim and emacs. I end up having to hit the key > > in order to erase the previous character on the line. This is very > > cumbersome. Any tips on how to fix this? > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:54:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mbox.com.au (smtp2.mbox.com.au [203.103.80.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C40637B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nms2.mbox.com.au (webmail.i7mail.com.au [192.168.20.4]) by smtp2.mbox.com.au (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0GJS00D6CG2OR3@smtp2.mbox.com.au> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:52:00 +0800 (WST) Received: from mbox.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by nms2.mbox.com.au (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GJSG2O02.VJ0 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:52:00 +0800 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:52:00 +1100 From: BSD Freak Subject: ftp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD Questions Message-id: <44cea144ad3a.44ad3a44cea1@mbox.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone, Please excuse my ignorance but I was just looking at ftp.freebsd.org in the /pub/FreeBSD/branches directory. A couple of listed items are: -current 4.0-stable My questions are: 1) is 4.0-stable later than the 4.3-RELEASE CD? 2) is -current the 5.0 branch? 3) is there a 5.0-stable branch? Thank all in advance,....... --------------------------------------------------------------------- It is easy. It is mBox. All your messages go where you go http://www.mbox.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 20:55:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta04.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4D037B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mattspc ([210.84.117.119]) by mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au with SMTP id <20010917035512.VSLW6258.mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au@mattspc> for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:55:12 +1000 From: "Matthew Blacklow" To: Subject: Information Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:06:29 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, I need to know for uni the following: 1. what is freeBSD 2. what sets it aside from other varients of linux 3. what are its pros and cons thanks, Matthew Blacklow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 21:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58D3237B403 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.232) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 04:13:15 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:20:22 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: "Matthew Blacklow" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Information Message-Id: <20010917002022.6caa29c1.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:06:29 +1000 "Matthew Blacklow" wrote: > hi there, > I need to know for uni the following: what is uni?? university? nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 21:13:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dv-db.com (dv-db.com [207.159.141.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4397837B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mark2 (host217-35-34-245.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.35.34.245]) by dv-db.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA01568; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 05:13:43 +0100 (GMT/BST) Message-ID: <013901c13f2f$0b7b5750$0200a8c0@mark2> From: "Mark Hughes" To: "BSD Freak" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <44cea144ad3a.44ad3a44cea1@mbox.com.au> Subject: Re: ftp.freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 05:12:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Please excuse my ignorance but I was just looking at ftp.freebsd.org in > the /pub/FreeBSD/branches directory. A couple of listed items are: > > -current > 4.0-stable > > > My questions are: > > 1) is 4.0-stable later than the 4.3-RELEASE CD? Yes, 4.x-STABLE represents the most recent code for the -STABLE branch. If this is your first install then I recommend, if you have a beefy internet connection, downloading the install floppies for 4.x-STABLE, popping them in, and letting that handle what to download for you as it installs. The other option is downloading the 4.3-RELEASE ISO and burning it to a CD (or wait a couple of days and download a 4.4-RELEASE ISO when that is available), which will be bootable provided your computer supports booting from a CD. This will take considerably longer to download as you're downloading a lot more data, but you will have the CD which is convienient later. If you are upgrading an existing install, then look at CVSup in the handbook at www.freebsd.org. > 2) is -current the 5.0 branch? Indeed, this is correct. -CURRENT is the development branch of FreeBSD working towards a release (whereupon 5.0 will become the main production -STABLE branch) in November 2002. > 3) is there a 5.0-stable branch? No, there is only one -STABLE branch at any time and it is currently tracking up to a 4.4-RELEASE in the next few days. I think the best advice on the -STABLE/-CURRENT thing for you would be forget -CURRENT, it's not what you want. Unless there is some really good reason why you need to run -CURRENT (and if you don't know that there is, then there isn't :) ), then don't. Hope this helps, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 21:14:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.nc.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0971037B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by mail8.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:05:06 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: Nathan Mace , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: soft updates Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:04:57 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091621045700.00603@i8k.babbleon.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 16 September 2001 20:53, Nathan Mace wrote: > i'm looking at the freebsd handbook right now, trying to decide if i should > use soft-updates on my box. i can't afford to lose any data, that is > written in stone. > > it says: "First, Soft Updates guarantees filesystem consistency in the case > of a crash..." is this true? it also lists two "problems" that might > occur using it. one would be that it 'runs' out of space if my drive is > close to being full. thats not an issue, niether is the 2nd problem > > basically what i'm asking is is it stable? and how much of a performance > gain am i gonna see? thanks "Yes," and "a lot", respectively, but you *must* turn off write-cache on your disk if you are going to use soft updates. Actually, if you care about your data, you should do this anyway. Actually, that should be the shipped default, regardless of whether it makes FreeBSD "look worse" on benchmark tests conducted by the ignorant. But that's just my opinion. > > nathan > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) http://www.babbleon.org --------------------> Free Dmitry Sklyarov! <------------------------- http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 21:22: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11D4837B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cheech.uchaswv.edu) (12.4.161.232) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 04:21:58 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:29:06 -0400 From: Nathan Mace To: "Matthew Blacklow" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Information Message-Id: <20010917002906.5cc9f49c.nmace85@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20010917002022.6caa29c1.nmace85@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:27:04 +1000 "Matthew Blacklow" wrote: > yes > by uni i meant university. > > For my uni course i must complete an internship. And i had a job interview > today and they told me if i can find info on freeBSD, PHP, SQL, and Blowfish > and demonstrate to them what i have learnt by tomorrow then i can have the > job how much info? and how long have you had to find it? lets see...a college senior...you didn't wait till the last minute did you? ; ) what kind of job is it? nathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 21:24: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dark4ce.com (dark4ce.com [194.109.74.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7272937B40D for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by dark4ce.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8H4NmY91518; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:23:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:23:43 +0200 From: Hanno Liem To: Matthew Blacklow Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Information Message-ID: <20010917062343.A91131@dark4ce.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from blacklow@ozemail.com.au on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:06:29PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:06:29PM +1000, Matthew Blacklow wrote: > hi there, > I need to know for uni the following: > > 1. what is freeBSD Google: "freebsd" -> "I'm feeling lucky" brings you to www.freebsd.org, where you can read: What is FreeBSD? FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for the Intel compatible (x86), DEC Alpha, and PC-98 architectures. It is developed and maintained by a large team of individuals. Additional platforms are in various stages of development. > 2. what sets it aside from other varients of linux FreeBSD is not Linux. Although both are open source, free unixes, Linux (or at least the kernel) was written from scratch by a Finnish CS student in the beginning of the 90s. FreeBSD evolved from the "original" BSD Unix and is considered more mature in code (older). Arguments often heard in comparing the two are: Linux generally has better support for new hardware. FreeBSD is more stable. Read Nathan Boegers article for some more technical details. http://www.webtechniques.com/archives/2001/01/infrrevu/ > 3. what are its pros and cons I'll leave that one for someone else. But I do suggest you read more on the web, http://www.freebsd.org is a good starting point, or Google... regards, Han To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 21:48:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DC737B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f8H4mlp24283; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id VAA13035; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:48:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Subject: RE: Passwordless Pine? In-Reply-To: <002301c13daf$535d9e60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Ted, Thanks for you input, but I *HAVE* been trying it out. I'm not sure why you think I haven't. I attempted what you suggested from your own setup and I'm not even sure if that's even opening an SSH connection to the IMAP mailserver. How do I know if it's an SSH connection? Trevin On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Trevin, > > Why oh why waste time speculating whether it would or wouldn't > work when it's so simple to just TRY it out? > > Here's the relevant sections of MY own .pinerc: > > # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX secure > # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. > # Zero disables ssh altogether. > ssh-open-timeout= > > # Sets the name of the command used to open a UNIX secure shell connection. > # Tyically this is /usr/local/bin/ssh. > ssh-path= > > # Sets the format of the command used to open a UNIX secure > # shell connection. The default is "%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd" > # NOTE: the 4 (four) "%s" entries MUST exist in the provided command > # where the first is for the command's path, the second is for the > # host to connnect to, the third is for the user to connect as, and the > # fourth is for the connection method (typically "imap") > ssh-command= > > and here are the sections of my /usr/local/etc/pine.conf > > . > . > . > # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox > # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). > inbox-path={mail.mymailserver.com}inbox > . > . > # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX secure > # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. > # Zero disables ssh altogether. > ssh-open-timeout= > > # Sets the name of the command used to open a UNIX secure shell connection. > # Tyically this is /usr/local/bin/ssh. > ssh-path=/usr/bin/ssh > > # Sets the format of the command used to open a UNIX secure > # shell connection. The default is "%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd" > # NOTE: the 4 (four) "%s" entries MUST exist in the provided command > # where the first is for the command's path, the second is for the > # host to connnect to, the third is for the user to connect as, and the > # fourth is for the connection method (typically "imap") > ssh-command= > > Note that I do NOT use "passwordless" connection via SSH to the IMAP > server. This works just file to establish an SSH connection to the > mailserver. > > My advice to you is to get it working the normal SSH way, then once you > have it running then go off and try to get all the fancy passwordless > stuff in SSH to work. One bite at a time is the way to solve problems. > Speculating as to what should or shouldn't work without testing it is > a waste of time. > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Trevin Chow [mailto:tmchow@sfu.ca] > >Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:18 AM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: RE: Passwordless Pine? > > > > > >I can't see why it wouldn't as long as the SSH key has *no* passphrase. > >I'm just wondering how to setup Pine properly. > > > > > >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >> Does Pine work properly with SSH _without_ it being passwordless? > >> (ie: the normal SSH way?) > >> > >> Ted Mittelstaedt > >tedm@toybox.placo.com > >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate > >Networker's Guide > >> Book website: > >http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Trevin Chow > >> >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:57 PM > >> >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >> >Subject: Passwordless Pine? > >> > > >> > > >> >I have succesfully implement public/private SSH keys to allow passwordless > >> >SSH connectiosn between 2 hosts. I want to also allow for passwordless > >> >IMAP connections via SSH in pine between one of the hosts to the other. I > >> >found this on teh net and thought it woudl be pretty easy: > >> > > >> >http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html > >> > > >> >However, whenever I load up pine and try to connect via IMAP, it gives me > >> >a timeout message and then prompts me for my password. > >> > > >> >I have a feeling it has to do with this configuration line in .pinerc: > >> > > >> >----------------- > >> ># Sets the format of the command used to open a UNIX secure > >> ># shell connection. The default is "%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd" > >> ># NOTE: the 4 (four) "%s" entries MUST exist in the provided command > >> ># where the first is for the command's path, the second is for the > >> ># host to connect to, the third is for the user to connect as, and the > >> ># fourth is for the connection method (typically "imap") > >> >ssh-command=%s %s -q -l %s exec /etc/r%sd > >> >----------------- > >> > > >> >I have no idea if that command should be altered or not..any ideas anyone? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >> > > >> > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 22:17:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A6637B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CD1BD09; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27284; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:17:18 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8H5GtO45717; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Bela Bartok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: term References: <20010917033143.59127.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Sep 2001 22:16:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20010917033143.59127.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bela Bartok writes: > hi, i often telnet to solaris and aix boxes, and i > always have problems with terminal emulation, for > example, i telnet to sunos and i cant run pico. > I would like to know how can i set up my freebsd box > to be as generic as possible? my term variable is set > to term=cons25 which is freebsd default.Should i > change it? i dont know this from experience but from what I read im guessing that your solaris and aix boxes need to have cons25 entries in their terminal capability data bases maybe termcap or some other name i forget on some nonfreebsd systems i think your applications need to know how to talk with your terminal or emulator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 22:20:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703E837B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cc60260a ([24.0.114.133]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010917052022.XYDK10658.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cc60260a>; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:20:22 -0700 From: "Jeff" To: "Jim Freeze" , Subject: RE: Mouse problems with XFree86 and SiS 6326 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:20:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Should be easy to fix - in your XConfig (in /etc/X11) change the PROTOCOL (in the pointer device section) to auto and that should fix it. Good luck, jeff phillips > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jim Freeze > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 20:45 > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Mouse problems with XFree86 and SiS 6326 > > > Hi all: > > I finally got XFree86 running on 4.3R with a SiS 6326 > PCI video card. I start x11 with startx and I get a default window > manager. However, my mouse is stuck in the upper > right hand corner. When I move the mouse, a menu flickers on > the screen. > > I don't know if it is a video driver compatability problem or > a mouse driver problem. I have a standard PS/2 mouse and am using the > /dev/mouse device. > > Has anyone experienced this problem? > > Thanks > > ========================================================= > Jim Freeze > --------------------------------------------------------- > jfreeze@freebsdportal.com > ========================================================= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 16 22:21:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9FD37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f8H5LQ618436; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Trevin Chow" Cc: Subject: RE: Passwordless Pine? Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:21:24 -0700 Message-ID: <009601c13f38$98240360$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Trevin Chow >Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:49 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: Passwordless Pine? > > >Hi Ted, > >Thanks for you input, but I *HAVE* been trying it out. I'm not sure why >you think I haven't. > Ah - when I asked if it worked with passwords, you didn't answer yes or no, insted responding with a question asking why it wouldn't work. What else would you expect me to think? >I attempted what you suggested from your own setup and I'm not even sure >if that's even opening an SSH connection to the IMAP mailserver. How do I >know if it's an SSH connection? > Ah, yes - very good question. Your not the only one annoyed that the developers of Pine didn't see fit to put up a message on screen indicating that SSH was in effect. What worked for me is to go to the mailserver and in inetd.conf, comment out the imap line, leaving only the imaps line. This turns off the non-SSHified IMAP server. imaps only responds to port 993 of course, so if the Pine client was switching to the regular IMAP server at port 143 behind my back then it would have failed. Ugly and crude, but effective. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >Trevin > > >On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> Trevin, >> >> Why oh why waste time speculating whether it would or wouldn't >> work when it's so simple to just TRY it out? >> >> Here's the relevant sections of MY own .pinerc: >> >> # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX secure >> # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. >> # Zero disables ssh al