From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 25 09:37:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C557F16A4CE for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-83.apple.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F90943D2D for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from citog@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id i2PHboU0029786; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.20] (bb220-255-48-87.singnet.com.sg [220.255.48.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id i2PHbm1m018038; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:37:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20040325083229.S73389-100000@cowpie.acm.vt.edu> References: <20040325083229.S73389-100000@cowpie.acm.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-997333748; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <20163526-7E83-11D8-A2A1-000A956A45FA@mac.com> From: James Gallagher Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:37:44 +0800 To: __Clint__ X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ! why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:37:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4-997333748 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 25 Mar 2004, at 21:37, __Clint__ wrote: >>> The "clint+freebsddotorg@acm.vt.edu" email was a one-time disposable >>> email address that I only ever gave to FreeBSD.org. >> >> Well, you started out with the right strategy, but you abandoned it >> too >> soon. You've now blown what looks like your real email address. >> Never >> reveal your true email address, for it can be used against you. > > How have I blown it? I sent a note to abuse@freebsd.com when I got > spammed. The automatic bounceback said to send it to > questions@freebsd.com. If questions@freebsd.com is actually a mail > list, > I was never told. > > So yes -- maybe it's been blown (even further) now. > > But that is due to your poor bounceback message. > > 1) I get spam > 2) I complain to abuse > 3) it bounces with a message to use another address > 4) I guess, from what you've said, that address is a mail list > > so in exchange for complaining about you selling my > clint+freebsddotorg@acm.vt.edu email address to spammers, you have now > redirected me into unknowningly posting to a mail list, thereby causing > more spam. > > Maybe when I get spam I should just sit here helpless and do nothing. > > But that didn't work well for the jews in WWII. > Complacency is not an attitude I like to adopt. Clint, Try to put things in perspective. You're saying you've received email you don't want - don't compare yourself to victims of the Holocaust. That drops your credibility to a lot less than 0. Secondly, you rant about creating an email address that is specific to this group, and expect us to derive from that, that you are an uber SPAM aware blocker. Then you plead newbie ignorance when you posted to an email address that you could have checked out with a trivial Google search. Here's a hint: http://www.google.com/search?q=freebsd- questions%40freebsd.org&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf -8&oe=utf-8 - look at the search terms. Trivial. You're not a victim of SPAM, you're an attention seeker. Go and look for help with that issue on another list. James --Apple-Mail-4-997333748--