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Date:      Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:31:50 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Lars Eighner <>
To:        Robert Bonomi <>
Subject:   Re: What dialup modem WILL work with 8.x and uart?
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Robert Bonomi wrote:

>> From: Lars Eighner <>

>> That's why I sprang for the 3Com which WAS supported by sio for years and is
>> NOT supported by uart since 8.x.  Why it is this device could be supported
>> for so many years, but somehow it is impossible on 8.x?
> The answer is "because it *iS*".  Whether or not you understand 'why' does't
> change that real-world FACT.
> The world changed.  The old driver -doesn't- work any more.  Because of
> architectural changes to other parts of the system.

It is only natural for me to resist the conclusion that I have wasted years
of my time and poured trasure down a rat hole.

>> I'll look at anything, but if I have to buy something, I want to know it is
>> actually IS working with uart, not that sort of should've.
> *sigh*
> If it is a USB serial port, it _doesn't_ use the uart driver.  And you avoid
> any limitations that it might have.
>> "drop-in repIacement" were the exact words used when I asked about it the
>> first time I heard sio was being dropped and was assured uart would be a
>> "drop-in replacement." But it is not, so theoretical "ought to work"s are
>> not helpful.  I'm looking for really actually does work.
> You've been told what actually does work.  I'm running 8.2 on several
> machines -- *with* working serial ports that live directly on the legacy
> ISA bus.  Using only the standard kernel drivers.  And doing PPP over
> those ports.  I'm not using a modem, just a null-modem cable but I could
> swap in a pair of _any_ type of hardware modems.

Well, see, my question was about dialup, not null modem.

Lars Eighner
8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266

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