From owner-freebsd-current Mon Aug 27 12:38:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6767E37B40D for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA74889; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up! In-Reply-To: <66544.998934042@critter> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <3B89DF04.F6A250F9@elischer.org>, Julian Elischer writes: > > >I am ready to do my megga-commit to add the first stage of KSE-threading support > >to > >the kernel. If there is any argument as to the wisdom of this move, > >then this is the time to speak up! > > I say "No, not yet". > > Not yet, because in practice nobody has been running your patches yet. > > Not yet, because we have seen no quantified performance impact numbers > (yes, I'm trying to arrange to help you produce these but on a P5/133 > things are _S_L_O_W_! > > Not yet, because I seriously doubt if anybody has had any time to review > and reflect on the way you have gone around and done things. > > Not yet, because there are, as I understand it, unresolved issues with KAME. > > Not yet, because you are generalizing from only one platform, get at least > alpha working first. > > So I propose: > > Put up your patches in a highly visible place and advertise them on > -current, -arch and -smp. Already done several times... > > Once at least 5 developers have publically said "I'm running these > patches on my -current machine(s) and it doesn't totally hose me" > and at least 3 of those machines are SMP and one is non-i386 > architecture, then call for "last orders before commit". I agree.. this is "first orders" :-) > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message