From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 11 22:08:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE72E16A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:08:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9783A43D3F for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:08:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id iABM84A0042962; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:08:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:08:03 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Kevin Lyons Message-ID: <20041111220803.GG4702@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200411112237.iABMb6YV001471@corserv.corserv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411112237.iABMb6YV001471@corserv.corserv.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcsh is not csh X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:08:20 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 11), Kevin Lyons said: > I have (re)discovered that tcsh is not csh although the tcsh man page > falsely asserts backward compatibility. Trying to do a simple read > of multiword variables in tcsh fails yet works find on csh. The tcsh > man page admits as much when one gets to the $< part. > > The point is, csh should be the basic backward compatibly lowest > common denominator between systems. This is a real problem. I > humbly suggest that those that want the bang of tcsh can do a pkg_add > just like the morons that want bash instead of sh. You can install the shells/44bsd-csh port if you want the original csh. Read up on all the arguments for an against the switch in the thread starting at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20000406134916.A23265@dragon.nuxi.com (sorry, best link I could find), but you're 4 years too late to affect the outcome... -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com