From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 1:50:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D4937B403; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 01:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6T8npS55876; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:49:51 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:49:51 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Ian Dowse Cc: , , Subject: Re: SIGCHLD changes causing fault on nofault entry panics In-Reply-To: <200107271451.aa00148@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: <20010728224835.Q48916-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Ian Dowse wrote: > > The panics in exit1() that have been reported on -stable appear to > be caused by these commits: > > REV:1.92.2.4 kern_exit.c 2001/07/25 17:21:46 dillon > REV:1.72.2.7 kern_sig.c 2001/07/25 17:21:46 dillon > > MFC kern_exit.c 1.131, kern_sig.c 1.125 - bring SIGCHLD SIG_IGN signal > handling in line with other operating systems. > > These probably correspond to similar panics seen in -current, but I > haven't checked the details. > > In the vmcore I just got, the panic occurred in the following > fragment in exit1(), when dereferencing p_sigacts (which is > p_procsig->ps_sigacts). I guess there is a race here if the parent > is exiting or something? > > + if ((p->p_pptr->p_procsig->ps_flag & PS_NOCLDWAIT) > + || p->p_pptr->p_sigacts->ps_sigact[_SIG_IDX(SIGCHLD)] == SIG_IGN) { > > Matt, I will just back out these changes from RELENG_4 shortly > until the issue is resolved. The change was non-essential and quite > contained, so it's probably better than waiting for a fix. > > Ian The problem seems to cause the following panic in vm_glue.c and nd kern_lock.c as well. Jul 28 21:29:40 pele /boot/kernel/kernel: lock order reversal Jul 28 21:29:40 pele /boot/kernel/kernel: lock order reversal Jul 28 21:29:40 pele /boot/kernel/kernel: 1st 0xd92fea9c process lock @ /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_glue.c:469 Jul 28 21:29:40 pele /boot/kernel/kernel: 1st 0xd92fea9c process lock @ /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_glue.c:469 Jul 28 21:29:40 pele /boot/kernel/kernel: 2nd 0xc118dfb0 lockmgr interlock @ /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_lock.c:239 Jul 28 21:29:40 pele /boot/kernel/kernel: 2nd 0xc118dfb0 lockmgr interlock @ /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_lock.c:239 panic: recurse Debugger ("panic") Stopped at Debugger+0x44: push1 %ebx db> and then it just hangs solid here. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 2:22: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7D737B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 02:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-79-102-115.tnt14.paradise.net.nz [203.79.102.115]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0291FB39A for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:22:03 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <3B63D5B6.5E0DF631@paradise.net.nz> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:21:58 +1200 From: Mark Ibell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; OpenBSD 2.9 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: What about LFS? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, With all the debate that has gone on lately about FFS vs EXT2 performance, stability, etc, I decided to try out NetBSD 1.5.1's LFS. It looks incredibly promising from the few initial tests I've run on it. As an example, unpacking FreeBSD 4.3's ports tarball on it takes an incredible 38s on my Celeron 400 w/ 4GB IDE drive. This contrasts with about 1m09s for both ReiserFS & EXT2FS and about 6m33s for FFS + SOFTUPDATES. Not only was the speed incredible but you could just whack reset and the system would mount the LFS filesystem immediately (sometimes with a brief ~3s checkpoint) and continue booting as if nothing had happened. Awesome! Anyway, I'm curious as to why this code was removed from the FreeBSD sources some time ago as it appears to show more that a little promise? Perhaps some reintegration is called for. Cheers, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 3:53: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14703.mail.yahoo.com (web14703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B916137B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010729105303.37639.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14703.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:53:03 PDT Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: What about LFS? To: Mark Ibell , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3B63D5B6.5E0DF631@paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Mark Ibell wrote: > Hi, > With all the debate that has gone on lately about FFS vs EXT2 > performance, stability, etc, I decided to try out NetBSD 1.5.1's > LFS. It looks incredibly promising from the few initial tests I've > run on it. As an example, unpacking FreeBSD 4.3's ports tarball on > it takes an incredible 38s on my Celeron 400 w/ 4GB IDE drive. This > contrasts with about 1m09s for both ReiserFS & EXT2FS and about > 6m33s for FFS + SOFTUPDATES. I'm surprised EXT2FS was that much faster than UFS+softupdates. Does LFS use inodes and data blocks like most other unix filesystems? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 6:30:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postfix.sekt7.org (209-6-248-16.c3-0.lex-ubr1.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.248.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA9737B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ems@open-root.org) Received: from postfix (unknown [169.69.6.38]) by postfix.sekt7.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58F783A07A; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:31:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Evan Sarmiento To: marki@paradise.net.nz Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3B63D5B6.5E0DF631@paradise.net.nz> (message from Mark Ibell on Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:21:58 +1200) Subject: Re: What about LFS? Message-Id: <20010729133100.58F783A07A@postfix.sekt7.org> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:31:00 +0000 (GMT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, First I would like to clarify what "LFS" is, before going into LFS caveats. In LFS, The whole filesyste m is structured as an append-only log to increase performance. Blocks of data are written to the end of the log, thus requiring no seeking. To further aid LFS, when it needs to open a file, an index file is created, where there is a mapping of inodes to physical data blocks where the inodes are held. Basically, LFS is geared torwards writing. Note, when you delete a file on LFS, it does not get deleted until the cleanup takes place, this is where we run into some problems. Problems: - Cleanup degrates performance by %30->%40 precent - You need lots of disk space to run LFS - Your benchmarks are false, look at http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/usenix2000/general/full_papers/seltzer/seltzer_html/index.html It appears that Softupdates beats LFS in most cases, Softupdates is a great balance of speed. - Lastly, in 5.0, there's a background fsck, which means that if your computer turns off abruptly, you don't have to wait for fsck to complete, it completes in the background. Thanks Evan Sarmiento >Delivered-To: kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx >Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:21:58 +1200 >From: Mark Ibell >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; OpenBSD 2.9 i386) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >List-ID: >List-Archive: (Web Archive) >List-Help: (List Instructions) >List-Subscribe: >List-Unsubscribe: >X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Precedence: bulk > >Hi, > >With all the debate that has gone on lately about FFS vs EXT2 >performance, stability, etc, I decided to try out NetBSD 1.5.1's LFS. It >looks incredibly promising from the few initial tests I've run on it. As >an example, unpacking FreeBSD 4.3's ports tarball on it takes an >incredible 38s on my Celeron 400 w/ 4GB IDE drive. This contrasts with >about 1m09s for both ReiserFS & EXT2FS and about 6m33s for FFS + >SOFTUPDATES. > >Not only was the speed incredible but you could just whack reset and the >system would mount the LFS filesystem immediately (sometimes with a >brief ~3s checkpoint) and continue booting as if nothing had happened. >Awesome! > >Anyway, I'm curious as to why this code was removed from the FreeBSD >sources some time ago as it appears to show more that a little promise? >Perhaps some reintegration is called for. > >Cheers, >Mark > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- ----------------------------------- Evan Sarmiento | www.open-root.org ems@sekt7.org | www.sekt7.org/~ems/ ----------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 7:40:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD2337B405 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id f6TEeFF22226; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:40:15 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f6TCHiT12383; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:17:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:17:44 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Mark Ibell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What about LFS? Message-ID: <20010729141744.A12296@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <3B63D5B6.5E0DF631@paradise.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B63D5B6.5E0DF631@paradise.net.nz>; from marki@paradise.net.nz on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:21:58PM +1200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 09:21:58PM +1200, Mark Ibell wrote: > Anyway, I'm curious as to why this code was removed from the FreeBSD > sources some time ago as it appears to show more that a little promise? > Perhaps some reintegration is called for. If I remember right LFS has been removed because after John Dysons vm changes (unified buffer cache) the LFS filesystem would have needed some rework. But for months (years) nobody actually maintained it .. so developers deceided to remove the rotten non functional (or non stable) code until somebody takes over maintenance and makes it suitable for the new vm subsystem. Andreas /// --=20 Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/ Songs from our band >> 64Bits << http://hometown.aol.com/II64BitsII --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Y/7nd3o+lGxvbLoRAlokAJ9ezqEr8DNpXcqI6TIu/fitP3zdJwCgne42 lR0z5dtxj/7Y4MGycDldSbY= =n8rS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 8:23:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from absinthe2.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-239-50.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net [63.207.239.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0762637B403 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 08:23:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@absinthe2.dyndns.org) Received: (from fred@localhost) by absinthe2.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6TFNDK43407; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 08:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 08:23:13 -0700 From: Fred Condo To: Michael Vince , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh-keygen version (Re: scp/sftp large file transfers always fail) Message-ID: <20010729082313.B43135@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> References: <00f301c11759$b97c3de0$2201a8c0@purple> <20010728094847.D17672@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> <20010728163208.A1413@moo.holy.cow> <20010728145624.A39952@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> <20010728223714.A21366@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010728223714.A21366@moo.holy.cow>; from parv_@yahoo.com on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 10:37:14PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's what I get for not paying attention to what system I am on. I use MacOS X to connect to my FreeBSD system. The Mac has ssh 2.9 and the ssh-keygen -t. The FreeBSD system has 2.3.0 and the ssh-keygen -d option. Sorry to all for the confusion. The upshot is that you can make a DSA key with either one. On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 10:37:14PM -0400, parv wrote: > on Jul 28 21:01, i got this from Fred... > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0400, parv wrote: > > > on Jul 28 15:58, i got this from Fred... > > > > > > > > It does. Used the -t dsa option of ssh-keygen. Add your new dsa key to > > > > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 on the remote systems you wish to connect > > > > with. > > > > > > either i have different version of ssh(-keygen), or one would get an > > > error if "-t" option is used w/ ssh-keygen; to generate dsa keys, i > > > have to use "-d" as in... > > > > > > # ssh-keygen -d > > > > > > ...i also read about "-t" option in one of the articles on ibm > > > developWorks, link is posted on rootprompt.org. my question: which > > > version of ssh-keygen has the "-t" option? > > > > ssh-keygen -t is in my openssh 2.3.0 > > are you sure that's not 2.9? my version is 2.3.0, too, but doesn't > support -t option; ssh -V gives: > > SSH Version OpenSSH_2.3.0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010321, \ > protocol versions 1.5/2.0. > Compiled with SSL (0x0090601f). > > i went thru' the source (/source/src/crypto/openssh/ssh-keygen.c), > cvsup'd on jul 17 2001, and didn't find -t option; and a visit to... > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/crypto/openssh/ssh-keygen.c > > ...confirms that 2.9 version has both the -t & -d options. > > > while we are on the topic, the commit log says that revision 1.1.1.7 > happened more than 2 months ago, then why do i have the 1.1.1.1.2.3 > version when i cvsup'd less than a month ago? the cvsup servers were > cvsup2 and cvsup4. > > ...seeking enlightenment... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 12: 7:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E6D37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6TJ7WH87458 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:07:31 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ** HEADS UP ** Message-ID: <20010729120731.A87346@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this coming week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few days. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 12:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE9E37B401; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from equinox ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:13:11 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: , Subject: RE: ** HEADS UP ** Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:13:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c11862$8822d3d0$6401a8c0@equinox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010729120731.A87346@dragon.nuxi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Isn't the code freeze only for -RELEASE, not -STABLE? -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks http://www.blinx.net/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of David O'Brien Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:08 PM To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ** HEADS UP ** RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this coming week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few days. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 12:38:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08C337B405 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6TJcYP16401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:38:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA11302 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:38:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 73130 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jul 2001 19:37:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:37:35 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** Message-ID: <20010729213735.A72898@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010729120731.A87346@dragon.nuxi.com> <000201c11862$8822d3d0$6401a8c0@equinox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c11862$8822d3d0$6401a8c0@equinox> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:13:21PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > Isn't the code freeze only for -RELEASE, not -STABLE? -- Jonathan Since a release is just a snapshot of -stable the code freeze is for -stable in preparation for making a release from it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of David O'Brien > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:08 PM > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: ** HEADS UP ** > > RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. > Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. > > This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this coming > week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few > days. > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 12:46:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E499A37B403 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:46:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from equinox ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:46:12 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "'Erik Trulsson'" , Subject: RE: ** HEADS UP ** Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:46:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c11867$24b340f0$6401a8c0@equinox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20010729213735.A72898@student.uu.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is 4.4-STABLE we're talking about? -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks http://www.blinx.net/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Erik Trulsson Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:38 PM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:13:21PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > Isn't the code freeze only for -RELEASE, not -STABLE? -- Jonathan Since a release is just a snapshot of -stable the code freeze is for -stable in preparation for making a release from it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of David O'Brien > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:08 PM > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: ** HEADS UP ** > > RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. > Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. > > This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this coming > week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few > days. > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 13: 0:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (dhcp065-024-000-115.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AADE37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6TJvDj24953; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B646B5D.A46CEF2C@iowna.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:00:29 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** References: <000001c11867$24b340f0$6401a8c0@equinox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE is going into code freeze on the date stated below. After sufficient time and testing has occurred, 4.3-STABLE will be used to create 4.4-RELEASE and 4.4-STABLE. Development on 4.3 will then be over, and future -STABLE development will occur on 4.4-STABLE. Hope this helps, Bill "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > > This is 4.4-STABLE we're talking about? -- Jonathan > > -- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Blinx Networks > http://www.blinx.net/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Erik Trulsson > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:38 PM > To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:13:21PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > Isn't the code freeze only for -RELEASE, not -STABLE? -- Jonathan > > Since a release is just a snapshot of -stable the code freeze is for > -stable in preparation for making a release from it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of David O'Brien > > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:08 PM > > To: stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: ** HEADS UP ** > > > > RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. > > Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. > > > > This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this > coming > > week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few > > days. > > > > -- > > Erik Trulsson > ertr1013@student.uu.se > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- "Where's the robot to pat you on the back?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 13: 7:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mighty.grot.org (mighty.grot.org [216.15.97.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E757237B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aditya@grot.org) Received: by mighty.grot.org (Postfix, from userid 515) id 207205DD2; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:07:46 -0700 From: "R.P. Aditya" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: serial console broken after 4.3-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010729130746.A44997@mighty.grot.org> Reply-To: "R.P. Aditya" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.grot.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x6405D8D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a machine that was cvsupp'd from 4.0-RELASE to 4-STABLE with the latest cvsup on May 21st: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon May 21 09:22:22 PDT 2001 Till that cvsup, the serial console on sio0 was working well. Neither the boot-up redirection (-h) nor the tty on the serial port works after that cvsup. I'm seeing similar behaviour on another machine cvsupp'd on that date. I have the following in my kernel: device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html says it should be: device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4 however the "tty" bit isn't in LINT nor documented anywhere, plus config doesn't like it. Furthermore, I have the following in /etc/ttys (unchanged from 4.0-RELEASE): ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure and I see that the getty is running on bootup: 790 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0 however connecting to COM0 on the machine no longer produces a login prompt. Hints? Ideas? what changed? Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 14: 9:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D3737B405 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6TL9MX16058 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:09:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA12989 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 78178 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jul 2001 21:08:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:08:25 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** Message-ID: <20010729230825.A77880@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010729213735.A72898@student.uu.se> <000001c11867$24b340f0$6401a8c0@equinox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c11867$24b340f0$6401a8c0@equinox> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:46:21PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > This is 4.4-STABLE we're talking about? -- Jonathan > It is 4-STABLE we are talking about. The difference between 4.3-STABLE and 4.4-STABLE is that 4.3-STABLE is what the 4-STABLE branch is called between 4.3-RELEASE and 4.4-RELEASE and 4.4-STABLE is what it will be called after 4.4-RELEASE has happened (until 4.5-RELEASE happens). All the 4.x releases are just snapshots of the 4-STABLE branch. The code freeze that was mentioned is on 4-STABLE in preparation for 4.4-RELEASE. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 14:12:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C269637B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:12:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: (apparently) from equinox ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:12:31 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "'Erik Trulsson'" , Subject: RE: ** HEADS UP ** Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:12:26 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c11873$33343650$6401a8c0@equinox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20010729230825.A77880@student.uu.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ah, I see. -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks http://www.blinx.net/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Erik Trulsson Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 5:08 PM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 03:46:21PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > This is 4.4-STABLE we're talking about? -- Jonathan > It is 4-STABLE we are talking about. The difference between 4.3-STABLE and 4.4-STABLE is that 4.3-STABLE is what the 4-STABLE branch is called between 4.3-RELEASE and 4.4-RELEASE and 4.4-STABLE is what it will be called after 4.4-RELEASE has happened (until 4.5-RELEASE happens). All the 4.x releases are just snapshots of the 4-STABLE branch. The code freeze that was mentioned is on 4-STABLE in preparation for 4.4-RELEASE. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 16:14: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8C537B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@awww.jeah.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6TNDxh01070 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:13:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:13:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes Message-Id: <200107292313.f6TNDxh01070@awww.jeah.net> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: No TTYs? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please cc me in replies, not subscribed anymore. Lately, been having this problem (forces me to reboot since I'm remote): Jul 29 16:06:07 awww sshd[21293]: error: openpty: No such file or directory Jul 29 16:06:07 awww sshd[21293]: error: Failed to allocate pty. Jul 29 16:09:48 awww sshd[21504]: error: openpty: No such file or directory Jul 29 16:09:48 awww sshd[21504]: error: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc failed Jul 29 16:10:05 awww /kernel: arplookup 65.116.90.2 failed: host is not on local network Jul 29 16:10:52 awww sshd[21504]: error: session_close_by_channel: kill 21512: N o such process Jul 29 16:10:52 awww sshd[21504]: error: select: Bad file descriptor I figured it meant add more ttys, so I did cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV pty2 pty3 pty4 pty5 pty6 pty7 and still having the problem The box has about 250 users, and its a public shell box Any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 16:25:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C10437B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: from ury.york.ac.uk (ury.york.ac.uk [144.32.108.81]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f6TNPdj02293 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:25:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (gavin@localhost) by ury.york.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6TNPcM40053 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:25:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: ury.york.ac.uk: gavin owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:25:38 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Atkinson To: Subject: misc/27471 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is there any chance that misc/27471 could be looked into before the release of FreeBSD 4.4? It's a patch to fix some missing calls including LINUX_SOUND_MIXER_WRITE_RECSRC in the linux emulation. I've been running it on 4.3-RELEASE for over 2 months now with no problems, and have since discovered somebody else is using a similar patch successfully, http://www.ohnolab.org/~kimoto/freebsd The problems somebody else had with Realproducer 8.0 are not fixed - but the current version, 8.5, works fine (confirmed by the person who used 8.0). RealProducer (by www.realnetworks.com) is distributed pre-compiled, and only Linux, Solaris and Windows verisons exist. Thanks Gavin -- "Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed." -- Carolyn Scheppner - - Gavin Atkinson - Head Of Computing - University Radio York - - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 16:59: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EAD37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikeh@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from mikeh@localhost) by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6TNwxD19854; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:58:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikeh) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:58:59 -0700 From: Mike Howard To: Chris Byrnes Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No TTYs? Message-ID: <20010729165859.A16423@csua.berkeley.edu> References: <200107292313.f6TNDxh01070@awww.jeah.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200107292313.f6TNDxh01070@awww.jeah.net>; from chris@awww.jeah.net on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 06:13:59PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 06:13:59PM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > Please cc me in replies, not subscribed anymore. > > Lately, been having this problem (forces me to reboot since > I'm remote): > > Jul 29 16:06:07 awww sshd[21293]: error: openpty: No such file or directory > Jul 29 16:06:07 awww sshd[21293]: error: Failed to allocate pty. > Jul 29 16:09:48 awww sshd[21504]: error: openpty: No such file or directory > Jul 29 16:09:48 awww sshd[21504]: error: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc failed > Jul 29 16:10:05 awww /kernel: arplookup 65.116.90.2 failed: host is not on local > network > Jul 29 16:10:52 awww sshd[21504]: error: session_close_by_channel: kill 21512: N > o such process > Jul 29 16:10:52 awww sshd[21504]: error: select: Bad file descriptor > > I figured it meant add more ttys, so I did cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV pty2 pty3 pty4 pty5 pty6 pty7 > > and still having the problem > > The box has about 250 users, and its a public shell box > > Any ideas? I'm not sure if this is your problem, but if you mean 250 _simultaneous_ users, then you're going to run into the 256 pty hard limit. I help run a server which often has more than 200 users logged in, many of whom run screen. We ran out of pty's long ago. You're welcome to try out our patches to increase the limit to 2048. Patches for yesterday's 4.3-STABLE (and screen) can be found at: http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/computing/software/extra-ptys/ Note that you may need to patch other software (like screen) to use the new (often oddly named) ptys. Yes, it's a hack, -Mike Howard UC Berkeley CSUA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 18: 4: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AFB37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6U15Xh07350 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:05:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:05:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: is "stable" "stable"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Mike Hoskins wrote: > If you're not willing to actually read docs, regression test, stage, and > do 'work' in general... Well, one could argue you get the amount of > stability you deserve. Heck, you have to do this with commercial software (e.g., Solaris), let alone with free software. And I repeat my comment from the last time this thread went around: FreeBSD's response time to critical bugs is the best I've seen *anywhere*. Finally, I repeat my earlier suggestion: a commit-free window around midnight UTC for -STABLE (probably not a bad idea for -CURRENT too): if a large commit cannot be completed before the window, hold off for 20 minutes or so until after the window, so that people can use the -D flag to cvsup (or to cvs) to specify midnight UTC each night without pulling something over the wire during the middle of a large commit. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 18: 6:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E5537B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6U180h07360 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:08:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:07:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: is "stable" "stable"? In-Reply-To: <20010723095250.B66779-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Lamont Granquist wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, A. L. Meyers wrote: > > It seems to me that it would be in the very best interest of > > FreeBSD to apply whatever quality controls are appropriate to > > ensure that "stable" means what it says. > > You're checking out the head of a development tree. It will never > be stable in your sense. As mentioned before it might theoretically > be best to rename "stable" but it needs a volunteer (you?) to do the > work to fix all the breakage which will result. > > > Do you seriously expect > > all users to go thru the testing procedures enumerated below? > > Then use a point release with the security patches applied. I.e., track RELENG_4_3 instead of RELENG_4. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 18:29:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aeon.invision.net (aeon.invision.net [206.112.34.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1609F37B401; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martini@invision.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aeon.invision.net (8.11.4/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6U1T4745965; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:29:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from martini@invision.net) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:29:02 -0400 (EST) From: Matt Martini Reply-To: "Matthew E. Martini" To: "David E. Cross" Cc: Bill Paul , "David E. Cross" , , Subject: Re: ypserv In-Reply-To: <200104200022.UAA69493@cs.rpi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- David, I just upgraded my ypserver machines to 4.3R from 4.2R. Now ypserv is seg faulting every few minutes. Did you ever get a resolution to this? Matt On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, David E. Cross wrote: > Ok, I at least changed the subject line. > > I have modified the ypserv yp_dblookup dbptr entry to have 'key' be > a 'char key[YPMAXRECORDSIZE];' entry and bcopy the keys in each time, it > is still seg-faulting on a regular schedule. I just cannot figure out > what is causing this anymore. It _must_ be in the Berkley DB code. > > Alas, because of stack corruption, the dump files are > *useless*. > -- > David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu > Lab Director | Rm: 308 Lally Hall > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 > Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 > I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > __________________________ http://www.invision.net/ _______________________ Matthew E. Martini, PE InVision.com, Inc. (631) 543-1000 x104 Chief Technology Officer matt@invision.net (631) 864-8896 Fax _______________________________________________________________________pgp_ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQEVAwUBO2S4XmtXn16/JS7ZAQE4Jwf+Md4MYlXXavaHxWt2cGWKmM7uKVAPFbpD pxMOaUCMHtkAiFDwNhuTv3d29dMjW8+Ry3ccH6ygCZ9xbsLmy0RWEadxOavIVIPG pwFnldOZKNMVq2ybomGrna4ddx8RtJfKpv9LYxgEK34ltso311V9WIfWkeVziVkm rbBeX9+ezNn7YfmbrSGvlT+RCs4Gxy8lZ/yInAFr7PR1rXNwEUCJStWSilyUMSEG LvHV43LemUyEAZrotIuezGM54OFj8UkTr7m/KMEOCf1/9eEY0X6lMUjcZZ7rthdv 33qT5Y0uemd6dRkA5fKXpyQA55HNYhKItqMqz/2Hgxb8nwXOI72DLA== =6jM4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 18:33:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8023837B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22479; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:33:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:33:48 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Erik Trulsson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** Message-ID: <20010729183348.D22165@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20010729213735.A72898@student.uu.se> <000001c11867$24b340f0$6401a8c0@equinox> <20010729230825.A77880@student.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010729230825.A77880@student.uu.se>; from ertr1013@student.uu.se on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 11:08:25PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 11:08:25PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > All the 4.x releases are just snapshots of the 4-STABLE branch. > The code freeze that was mentioned is on 4-STABLE in preparation > for 4.4-RELEASE. And I assume there will be a RELENG_4_4 branch forked off at that point. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 18:39:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kinesis.swishmail.com (kinesis.swishmail.com [63.165.246.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 535D937B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dev@swishmail.com) Received: (qmail 95413 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2001 01:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chaotica.swishmail.com) (66.65.104.39) by kinesis.swishmail.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2001 01:40:01 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010729213622.03c90d20@pop3.swishmail.com> X-Sender: dev@swishmail.com@pop3.swishmail.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:38:37 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Kris von Mach Subject: libscrypt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have done a new full install of the latest snapshot of FreeBSD 4.3 and also cvs'ed to todays version, and I don't seem to have libscrypt in /usr/lib... June 21st was the version I had previously and it did have libscrypt... Any ideas as to what happened to it? __ Kris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 19:26:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.hub.org (webmail.hub.org [216.126.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900AB37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mail1.hub.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6U2QWv53332 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:26:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:26:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Subject: Perl5.6 to be MFC'd for 4.4-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010729222550.M55212-100000@mail1.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just curious as to whether this is planned or not, at this point in time? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 19:34:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E0437B405 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6U2Zfh07596 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:35:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:35:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: [OT] Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time! In-Reply-To: <200107242324.JAA23398@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > > >Subject: Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time! > > All I can say is that it is a pity no-one thought fit to add killfiles to my > mailer. Go to http://www.perl.com and search on "Mail::Audit". :-) To Sung Cho: please go out and take an MSF course, buy yourself a motorcycle, and go enjoy those excellent roads not too far from you (Blue Ridge Parkway, etc.--esp. VA 16 through Hungry Mother State Park). I think it will do wonders for your attitude. For further attitude adjusting, continue on up to West Virginia and ride around the New River Gorge Area.. To bring this back to FreeBSD: I've been running FreeBSD as a desktop (except at work :-( ) for a couple of years now, and I've been very happy with it. Speed? Heck, I just pulled 110 MFLOPs out of a LINPACK benchmark on my 1.333 GHz T-Bird (DDR SDRAM *almost* makes this box the equivalent of Kent's dual coppermine). It'll be interesting to build an SMP box based upon AMD CPUs. That will probably also cut my winter heating bill. :-) Praise be to Jordan and the whole FreeBSD team. One of these days (perhaps soon), I'll finally make a contribution. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 19:41:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sr3.terra.com.br (sr3.terra.com.br [200.176.2.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4813537B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasimoes@terra.com.br) Received: from emergencia.sao.terra.com.br (emergencia-sao.sao.terra.com.br [200.177.250.226]) by sr3.terra.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24431 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:41:45 -0300 Received: from Rodrigo (dl-tnt1-C8B1A1C8.mii.terra.com.br [200.177.161.200]) (authenticated user mii155382) by emergencia.sao.terra.com.br (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6U2fhd02276 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:41:44 -0300 Message-ID: <002301c118a1$493b2a20$c8a1b1c8@Rodrigo> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rodrigo_A._Sim=F5es?=" To: Subject: 4.3 Bugs Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:42:29 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to apply the patch 01:40 (fts) on my 4.3 system. But the "chgrp" doesn't exist on /usr/src/usr.bin... Look: cd /usr/src/usr.bin/chgrp # make depend && make all install The update of "chgrp" fail... Why this occur??? PS: Sorry for my poor english! Regards!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 20:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quasar.phys.vt.edu (quasar.phys.vt.edu [128.173.176.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB8E37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu) Received: from localhost (sucho2@localhost) by quasar.phys.vt.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6U3dxc16426; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:39:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:39:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sung Nae Cho To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: [OT] Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > > > > > >Subject: Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time! > > > > All I can say is that it is a pity no-one thought fit to add killfiles to my > > mailer. > > Go to http://www.perl.com and search on "Mail::Audit". :-) > > To Sung Cho: please go out and take an MSF course, buy yourself a > motorcycle, and go enjoy those excellent roads not too far from you > (Blue Ridge Parkway, etc.--esp. VA 16 through Hungry Mother State > Park). I think it will do wonders for your attitude. > > For further attitude adjusting, continue on up to West Virginia and > ride around the New River Gorge Area.. > > To bring this back to FreeBSD: I've been running FreeBSD as a > desktop (except at work :-( ) for a couple of years now, and I've been > very happy with it. Speed? Heck, I just pulled 110 MFLOPs out of a > LINPACK benchmark on my 1.333 GHz T-Bird (DDR SDRAM *almost* makes > this box the equivalent of Kent's dual coppermine). It'll be > interesting to build an SMP box based upon AMD CPUs. That will > probably also cut my winter heating bill. :-) > > Praise be to Jordan and the whole FreeBSD team. One of these days > (perhaps soon), I'll finally make a contribution. > > Hey, Chris. I've put this message couple days ago, almost a week old! I have been a FreeBSD user for quite a while and matured enough using this OS in such way that I no longer seek help but, most of the time, giving help to newbies who just started using FreeBSD. However, I have to tell you that I have tried Redhat 7.1 with 2.4.x kernel and it just amazed me in every area (performance, hardware support for my fairly new laptop!). I agree FreeBSD is good OS in certain areas. But it does seem to lack in desktop area and hardware support. My new optical usb mouse doesn't run on FreeBSD. I have been working on it for more than a month but still couldn't get it to work! At the end, I had to settle with my old "wheel" based mouse which I'm really tired of cleaing the dirt every week! After some serious thought (it's always very hard to make transition!), I have finally decided to switch to Linux for 4 reasons: 1) KDE, GNOME and other Window managers are only 100% compatible with Linux. I've discovered only 90% of KDE and GNOME functionality work on FreeBSD. (NO JAVA support! I couldn't get any JAVA applications to run on FreeBSD). I'm kind of suspicious about compatibility between GNU C/C++ compilers and FreeBSD also. 2) My laptop is only 100% supported under Linux with kernel 2.4 and 2.4 is very fast. Under FreeBSD, I have to disable the "doze" mode for CPU otherwise, FreeBSD won't even boot! USB seems to be conflicting with other components in system also so none of the USB devices are working at least for my laptop. 3) When installing very large files like Mozilla, teTeX and XFree86-4, FreeBSD takes forever to install! Even with async option enabled, the package for teTeX takes good 15 minutes, Mozilla good 20 minutes to unzip and install. It takes forever unzipping XFree86-4 source for compilation under FreeBSD. And my machine isn't that archaic, it's 500Mhz, 128M, UDMA 33 Hard drive! Under Linux, installing teTeX took only 10 sec or so. 4) None of the NVIDIA cards are supported in FreeBSD. Sure it runs, but only with 2D, unaccelerated mode. I'm not bashing FreeBSD here. It's just that, FreeBSD seem to be more suited for server purpose than desktop arena. Lastly, what's with FreeBSDers saying Linux takes forever to boot than FreeBSD? Redhat by default enables everything! I turned off services I don't need and it takes less than 5 sec booting my laptop. For me FreeBSD took longer to boot (more like 20-30 sec). Maybe it's different for nonlaptops. I just wanted clarify that I wasn't bashing FreeBSD. I was mearly pointing out my "wishes". Anyways, I will be unsubscribing the FreeBSD stable list in couple days or so. If you read my previous messages, you would have understood how frustrated I was having to make transition! (I probably installed both Redhat and FreeBSD back and forth 10 times last week! 3 time this morning before I finally made up my mind.) Now, I need to concentrate on physics and less of OS. Regards, Sung N. Cho, Sunday, July 29, 2001. Dept. of Physics, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 20:57:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B70137B405 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6U3xEh07779 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:59:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Updating RELENG_4_3 In-Reply-To: <3B62A31F.7EF92100@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, ian j hart wrote: > cd /usr/src;make update (CVS) pulls down RELENG_4 not RELENG_4_3. > There should at least be a warning in UPDATING. Shouldn't > this be a variable in make.conf? > > > Hmm. The -r would mean BRANCH would have to be a numeric or > symbolic tag. What if you could do: > CVSUPDATEFLAGS= -D "yesterday" > That would fix updating during a commit. Or maybe not. Must find > a cvs wizard and ask them if the commit time stamps are atomic. It would not, if at this time yesterday, someone was doing a commit. If the suggestion, "leave a small commit-free window around midnight UTC" is adopted, then you could use -D "00:00:00 UTC" and not have to worry (although you'd have to translate that to "[cc]yy.mm.dd.00.00.00" format for cvsup to process it). -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 21:14:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEC937B405 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA45459; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:14:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26796; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:13:18 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200107300413.OAA26796@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Chris Elsworth Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MD5 and DES hashes In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:28:12 +0100. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:13:17 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Cheers for any light anyone can shed, As others have said: - check login.conf - force a salt like '$1$....$' also: check /etc/auth.conf for a "crypt_default" line. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 29 23:22:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DE237B403 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23110; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:22:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:22:15 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Matt Martini Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ypserv Message-ID: <20010729232215.A23068@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20010729184121.E22165@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from martini@invision.net on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 12:09:15AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 12:09:15AM -0400, Matt Martini wrote: >> If you're gonna upgrade your box from 4.2, why not go to the 4.3 >> "most stable" branch (RELENG_4_3)? Is it because you are only doing >> binary installs, and not source builds? > > Chad, > > Actually I used RELENG_4 which I thought was "most stable." > Am I wrong? I am doing source builds (buildworld, buildkernel). Then you should have noticed that your "uname -a" is no longer reporting 4.3-RELEASE, but 4.3-STABLE by now. The RELENG_4 branch is what is referred to as -STABLE. It is the branch to which some features are migrated after they've been installed and "burned in" in -CURRENT (which is RELENG_5 at the moment). It's also the branch that has generated all the e-mail about occasional breakage and not being suitable for revenue generating production systems. If you continue to fetch and build RELENG_4, sometime next month your system will automatically transition from 4.3-RELEASE to 4.3-STABLE (probably already has) to 4.4-RELEASE to 4.4-STABLE, with perhaps a couple of -RC (release candidate) versions along the way. This may be fine, if you want your system to be picking up new features as they develop. It's probably not what you want if you can't afford to have your systems break. So a new branch was created (RELENG_4_3), which is RELENG_4 that will only have security fixes and =major= bug fixes applied. No new features or functionality. This is what I run on production systems. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 30 0: 2:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ksih.vist.bryansk.ru (ksih.vist.bryansk.ru [195.239.213.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306E437B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hsw@vist.bryansk.ru) Received: from hsw (hsw.intranet.vist.bryansk.ru [192.168.0.49]) by ksih.vist.bryansk.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6U72WU95702 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:02:39 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from hsw@vist.bryansk.ru) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:02:32 +0400 From: Sergey Homenkow X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Organization: vist X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1867158232.20010730110232@vist.bryansk.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's mean "pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum" ? === dmesg === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #13: Fri Jul 27 12:08:27 MSD 2001 root@ksih.vist.bryansk.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/KSIH Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (664.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 132907008 (129792K bytes) avail memory = 125767680 (122820K bytes) pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc033a000. VESA: v3.0, 1024k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xc02d1d42 (1000022) VESA: Intel(R) 815 Chipset Video BIOS Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xfeb80000-0xfebfffff,0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 fxp0: port 0xdd80-0xddbf mem 0xfe400000-0xfe4fffff,0xfe9fd000-0xfe9fdfff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci1 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:3d:44:3c inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: port 0xde80-0xdebf mem 0xfe600000-0xfe6fffff,0xfe9fe000-0xfe9fefff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci1 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:3d:41:bb inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp2: port 0xdf00-0xdf3f mem 0xfe800000-0xfe8fffff,0xfe9ff000-0xfe9fffff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci1 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:3a:78:ee inphy2: on miibus2 inphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 7 at device 31.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ichsmb0: port 0xefa0-0xefaf irq 10 at device 31.3 on pci0 smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 uhci1: port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 9 at device 31.4 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered orm0:
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C119B4.BCA8C7B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 9:49: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8407137B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (heho.snv.jussieu.fr [134.157.37.22]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.11.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id f6VGmwD06165 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:48:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (arno@localhost) by heho.snv.jussieu.fr (8.11.4/jtpda-5.2) id f6VGmw829958 ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:48:58 +0200 (MEST) From: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr (Arno J. Klaassen) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Continuing ahc problems - also cause fxp failure References: <200107271858.f6RIwaU17547@aslan.scsiguy.com> In-Reply-To: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de's message of "31 Jul 2001 14:00:58 +0200" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Date: 31 Jul 2001 18:48:58 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I see an identical problem with and without this diff applied on an > ASUS motherboard with onboard SCSI. No onboard Ethernet. same here; ASUS MB with onboard SCSI, offboard xl0 Ethernet. kernel 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 11 Arno To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 9:49:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mistral.imasy.or.jp (mistral.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA87637B406 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:48:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistral@imasy.or.jp) Received: (from yohta@localhost) by mistral.imasy.or.jp (8.11.4/8.11.4/mistral) id f6VGmXR01978; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:48:33 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from yohta) From: mistral@imasy.or.jp (Yoshihiko SARUMARU) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: userland PPP is broken in LCP negotiation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.22PL5] 2001-02/07(Wed) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:48:33 +0900 Message-ID: <010801014833.M0101873@mistral.imasy.or.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a problem in dialing up to specific router. # If you had recieved this mail a half day before, please ignore # this. Something is in trouble in my mail routing at office. That is LCP negotiation issue with src/usr.sbin/ppp/lcp.c,v 1.81.2.8 1.81.2.7 has no problem. When I build ppp with lcp.c 1.81.2.8, ppp couldn't link up. A patch attached in PR29277 by brian didn't help me (I know this patch is for -current). I will attach detail log below for both version. But this problem is not occur when I dial up to PortMaster3. It will occur when i dial up to YAMAHA RT103i or unknown (MAX?) NTT DoCoMo router for PHS (DoCoMo mopera service). My ppp.conf entry for RT103i via PHS is below. Thanks, - Yoshihiko paldio: set device /dev/cuaa3 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK \ AT&F OK ATE0\\\\W1&E0 OK ATS7=58%C2&K3 \ OK ATDT\\T TIMEOUT 20 CONNECT" default: allow users yohta set speed 115200 set timeout 300 # 3 mintue idle timer (the default) delete! ALL add default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route imasy-generic: set authname mistral set authkey XXXXXXXXXX imasy-phs: load imasy-generic load paldio set phone 045-XXX-XXXX == with 1.81.2.7 ===================================== Phase: deflink: carrier -> login Phase: deflink: login -> lcp LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(43) state = Stopped LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x7e0bfb81 LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped LCP: ACFCOMP[2] LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: MRU[4] 1500 LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0bc1e5f7 LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(43) state = Stopped LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x7e0bfb81 LCP: deflink: LayerStart LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Ack-Sent LCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(1) state = Ack-Sent LCP: ACFCOMP[2] LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = Ack-Sent LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: MRU[4] 1500 LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0bc1e5f7 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Sent LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> Opened LCP: deflink: LayerUp Phase: bundle: Authenticate == with 1.81.2.8 ===================================== Phase: deflink: carrier -> login Phase: deflink: login -> lcp LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(27) state = Stopped LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped LCP: ACFCOMP[2] LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: MRU[4] 1500 LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x37954676 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(27) state = Stopped LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: LayerStart LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent LCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(1) state = Req-Sent LCP: ACFCOMP[2] LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = Req-Sent LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: MRU[4] 1500 LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x37954676 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(28) state = Req-Sent LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(28) state = Req-Sent LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2) state = Req-Sent LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(29) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(29) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(30) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(30) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(31) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(31) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(32) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(32) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(33) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(33) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(34) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(34) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(35) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(35) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(36) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(36) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(37) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(37) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(38) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(38) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(39) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(39) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(40) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(40) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(41) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 1792 LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x93b59276 LCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(41) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: MRU[4] 2048 Phase: deflink: Too many LCP NAKs sent - abandoning negotiation LCP: deflink: SendTerminateReq(3) state = Ack-Rcvd LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Closing LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(42) state = Closing LCP: deflink: Error: Got ConfigReq while state = Closing LCP: deflink: RecvTerminateAck(3) state = Closing LCP: deflink: LayerFinish LCP: deflink: State change Closing --> Closed LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Phase: deflink: lcp -> logout Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Phase: deflink: Connect time: 10 secs: 898 octets in, 484 octets out -- Yoshihiko SARUMARU mail: mistral@imasy.or.jp web: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~mistral/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 9:58:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from t-online.fr (mail1.in.t-online.fr [213.44.120.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EF237B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:58:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skoot@club-internet.fr) Received: from t-online.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.in.t-online.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2093548C8 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:58:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [213.44.126.19] (oroux-mac.in.t-online.fr [213.44.126.19]) by t-online.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58F448C4 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: skoot@mail-v.club-internet.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <010801014833.M0101873@mistral.imasy.or.jp> References: <010801014833.M0101873@mistral.imasy.or.jp> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:58:53 +0200 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Olivier Roux Subject: Re: userland PPP is broken in LCP negotiation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:48 +0900 01/08/2001, Yoshihiko SARUMARU wrote: >I have a problem in dialing up to specific router. ># If you had recieved this mail a half day before, please ignore ># this. Something is in trouble in my mail routing at office. > >That is LCP negotiation issue with >src/usr.sbin/ppp/lcp.c,v 1.81.2.8 >1.81.2.7 has no problem. Many french users connecting on their ADSL line (PPPoE) have the same problem with this version (1.81.2.8). Many of them have already downgraded. I cvsuped last night and i noticed there's a new lcp.c : $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/ppp/lcp.c,v 1.81.2.9 2001/07/30 09:16:53 brian Exp $ Didn't try it yet... does it solve the problem ? -- Olivier Roux (aka Skoot) _ / \ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN AGAINST HTML MAIL X _______________________________________________________________/ \___________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 10: 5:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from annuvin.com (dsl-64-192-141-77.telocity.com [64.192.141.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64BA237B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddollar@annuvin.com) Received: (qmail 23608 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2001 15:18:45 -0000 Received: from arawn.dhcp.annuvin.com (HELO arawn) (arawn@192.168.1.2) by dsl-64-192-141-77.telocity.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2001 15:18:45 -0000 Message-ID: <017601c119d4$25db8870$0201a8c0@arawn> From: "David Dollar" To: "Carl Drougge" , References: <20010731171646.A21732@bigtower.net> Subject: Re: kdm startup script freaks out keyboard Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:19:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2505.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2505.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just change the off to on in /etc/ttys concerning xdm, it'll make your kdm load on boot. David Dollar ddollar@annuvin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Drougge" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: kdm startup script freaks out keyboard > On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 09:49:30AM -0500, Steve Dobbs wrote: > > > I wrote a little startup script to automatically launch kdm upon boot, and > > put it in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory, and it works fine when I run it > > as root when the machine is up, but when I boot and let the script get > > launched automatically, kdm comes up, but the keyboard stops functioning > > properly. (I can ctl-alt-delete, but I can't switch out switch out to > > another virtual terminal, I can't ctl-alt-break, and I can't type any > > letters). I'm running KDE 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE. > > Sounds like it doesn't like being launched early, so try delaying it a bit. > (Like replace "kdm" with "sh -c 'sleep 30 && kdm' &". If that works try > lowering the sleep time a bit so you don't have to wait so long..) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 10:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mistral.imasy.or.jp (mistral.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AA337B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistral@imasy.or.jp) Received: (from yohta@localhost) by mistral.imasy.or.jp (8.11.4/8.11.4/mistral) id f6VHJHR00825; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:19:17 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from yohta) From: mistral@imasy.or.jp (Yoshihiko SARUMARU) To: skoot@club-internet.fr Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: userland PPP is broken in LCP negotiation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:58:53 +0200". Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.22PL5] 2001-02/07(Wed) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:19:17 +0900 Message-ID: <010801021917.M0100791@mistral.imasy.or.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG skoot@club-internet.fr wrote: > At 01:48 +0900 01/08/2001, Yoshihiko SARUMARU wrote: > >I have a problem in dialing up to specific router. > ># If you had recieved this mail a half day before, please ignore > ># this. Something is in trouble in my mail routing at office. > > > >That is LCP negotiation issue with > >src/usr.sbin/ppp/lcp.c,v 1.81.2.8 > >1.81.2.7 has no problem. > $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/ppp/lcp.c,v 1.81.2.9 2001/07/30 09:16:53 brian Exp $ > > Didn't try it yet... does it solve the problem ? Great! Yes, this version solved my problem. Thank you very much for your quick help, - Yoshihiko -- Yoshihiko SARUMARU mail: mistral@imasy.or.jp web: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~mistral/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 10:58: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr (postfix2-2.free.fr [213.228.0.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C4237B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:58:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (nantes-2-a7-42-177.dial.proxad.net [212.27.42.177]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DCE6B864; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:58:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14D6AE6BDD; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:28:58 +0200 (CEST) To: Olivier Roux Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: userland PPP is broken in LCP negotiation References: <010801014833.M0101873@mistral.imasy.or.jp> From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: (Olivier Roux's message of "Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:58:53 +0200") X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:28:57 +0200 Message-ID: <863d7dm2hy.fsf@notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Olivier" == Olivier Roux writes: Olivier> Many french users connecting on their ADSL line (PPPoE) have Olivier> the same problem with this version (1.81.2.8). Many of them Olivier> have already downgraded. Symptoms seems to affect rtc calls in France as well. Olivier> $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/ppp/lcp.c,v 1.81.2.9 2001/07/30 Olivier> 09:16:53 brian Exp $ I've rebuilt only ppp this morning, it seems to have partially solved the problem as I've been able to connect my isp half times i tried today (no success for 2 days before, since last buildworld). My isp access points are somewhat crappy these days, so maybe the problem is completely solved. Eric Masson -- je me fais un réveil matin qui m'énonce les SC6 et SC7 de word98 [avec le Speech de MacsBug]. Si je me lève pas pour l'éteindre, je suis sûr que ma femme le fera .-) -+- BL in Guide du Macounet Pervers : Tyran domestique ! -+- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 11:28:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11603.mail.yahoo.com (web11603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3315F37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sncho@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010731182837.57285.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.152.65.30] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:28:37 PDT Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:28:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sung N. Cho" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 11:42:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magrathea.epr.com (magrathea.epr.com [198.3.163.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EFE37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsatterfield@intertrust.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magrathea.epr.com (8.9.3/8.7.3) id LAA09781 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown(198.3.162.27) by magrathea.epr.com via smap (V5.5) id xma009730; Tue, 31 Jul 01 11:42:21 -0700 Received: from exchange.epr.com (exchange.epr.com [198.3.162.249]) by maguro.epr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24310 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.epr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:39:58 -0700 Message-ID: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA6B@exchange.epr.com> From: James Satterfield To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:39:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # Begin rambling The Perc 3QC is an AMI Enterprise 1600 card. I've got two of them. They both suck. =) I've done a LOT of disk IO benchmarking with the Perc 3Di and 3QC cards in the last few months. Awful results. If anyone is interested, I could send them some of my findings (and a few things Dell has said about the performance). Basically, I ended up removing the QC cards, installing a few 2 channel ultra160 cards, and running software raid because the hardware solution was so poor. It was very nice of Dell to start including a branded version of Veritas Volume Manager as their array management solution. # End rambling James -----Original Message----- From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@FreeBSD.ORG] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:08 AM To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Tim Kellers; stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable > Here is a summary of PERC hardware from Mike Smith who did most (all) > of the driver work for them: > The PERC, PERC 2/SC, PERC 2/DC and PERC 3/D* are AMI designs. > > The PERC 2/Si, PERC 2/Di, PERC 3/Si and PERC 2/QC are Adaptec designs. > > "PERC" means "this is a Dell-branded RAID controller". > "2" and "3" refer to 40MHz vs 80MHz SCSI support. > "S" "D" and "Q" are single, dual and quad channel designations. > "i" means it's integrated onto the server motherboard. > "C" means it's an addin card. > "L" means it's the low-cost version. Just to amend this; the 3/DC is an AMI controller, but the 3/Di is an Adaptec design. Another way of looking at it is that if it's an 'i', or a QC, it's an Adaptec. Otherwise it's an AMI. Knowing Dell, though, this may change again without too much notice. 8( -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 11:58:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe68.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB7737B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chromus_@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:58:49 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [64.157.55.156] From: "Daniel Mirchandani" To: Subject: Problem with router Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:01:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2001 18:58:49.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[D58640D0:01C119F2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First of all, sorry about sending my subscribtion request on the list, I didn't read the handbook to that point. Now, to the problem. I'm not very experienced with FreeBSD but heard that it was a great OS to run a server on. I downloaded the .iso, burned the CD, and installed it on a computer. Now, I am connecting this computer to a Netgear router so that the cable connection I am using can be shared by the server and other computers here. The problem seems to be that FreeBSD isn't communicating with the router. It won't assign FreeBSD an IP address and I can't ping the router from FreeBSD. Does anyone know how to fix this? I am sure about the hardware working. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 12: 2: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pflnoczr.networktelephone.net (unknown [216.107.65.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0208837B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Steve.Dobbs@networktelephone.net) Received: by pflnoczr.networktelephone.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:01:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Dobbs To: 'Daniel Mirchandani' , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Problem with router Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:01:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what do you get when you do an ipconfig -a ? That would help us in diagnosing the problem. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Mirchandani [mailto:chromus_@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:01 PM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem with router First of all, sorry about sending my subscribtion request on the list, I didn't read the handbook to that point. Now, to the problem. I'm not very experienced with FreeBSD but heard that it was a great OS to run a server on. I downloaded the .iso, burned the CD, and installed it on a computer. Now, I am connecting this computer to a Netgear router so that the cable connection I am using can be shared by the server and other computers here. The problem seems to be that FreeBSD isn't communicating with the router. It won't assign FreeBSD an IP address and I can't ping the router from FreeBSD. Does anyone know how to fix this? I am sure about the hardware working. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 12: 2:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.imagers.com (unknown [209.195.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B5837B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph_gargery@operamail.com) Received: from [209.195.2.99] (209.195.2.99) by mail.imagers.com (Worldmail 1.3.167); 31 Jul 2001 14:55:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010731182837.57285.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010731182837.57285.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:00:58 -0400 To: "Sung N. Cho" From: Joseph Gargery Subject: Re: Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sung, After careful consideration of your application to become a member of the FreeBSD-stable mailing list, we have unanimously and gleefully elected to deny you admission. Our decision was based on a number of factors including, but not limited to, ability to read instructions, attention span, probability of sending questions to the list which are answered in the FAQ, and a careful calculation of your likelihood to be annoying and send time-wasting emails to the list. We recommend instead that you apply to become a member of the OpenBSD mailing lists. The OpenBSD community in general is much more welcoming of newcomers and more tolerant of what some of the tougher-minded of our community might term ' brainless morons.' The notable exception to this rule being, of course, our own Papa Smurf, Greg Lehey, whose patience and gentleness with even the most moronic of questions borders on the angelic. We are sorry to inform you of this decision, but we feel that it is in the best interest of our sanity to deny your admission. Hugs and Kisses, Joseph Gargery, Blacksmith ps What Larks! >subscribe freebsd-stable > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 12:17:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C46937B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f6VJH1U90022; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:17:01 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200107311917.f6VJH1U90022@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: ata timeouts after debug commits In-Reply-To: <20010730173949.A69298@neutrino.bsdhome.com> from Brian Dean at "Jul 30, 2001 05:39:49 pm" To: bsd@bsdhome.com (Brian Dean) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:17:01 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > At the end I tracked it down to these commits: > > > > > > > > src/sys/i386/i386/db_trace.c,v 1.35.2.1 2001/07/12 02:57:11 bsd > > > > src/sys/i386/i386/support.s,v 1.67.2.4 2001/07/12 02:57:11 bsd > > > > src/sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h,v 1.96.2.2 2001/07/12 02:57:11 bsd > > > > > > > > Maybe it isn't the code itself but just that things moved? I tried the > > snaps on internat and the ones before July 13 worked, but Jul 13 and > > later didn't work. Even a fairly stripped down kernel with later sources > > didn't work until I backed out those 3 files. > > I don't know, I suppose that's possible. But if you didn't have > options DDB in your kernel, the db_trace.c file is not included in the > kernel you built. And the changes to support.s and cpufunc.h merely > converted a real function to an in-line function, and added a few > previously non-existant in-line functions (which are only used by ddb > at the moment), but otherwise there was no change. Even the function > that was converted from real to in-line would only called in certain > circumstances during a debugger trace trap, so I'm having a hard time > pinning the problem on the above commits. > > If you get access to the machine again, see if you can hook the > machine up to use a serial console or something and capture the bootup > messages, a verbose boot would be good. Post that out and somebody > may spot something. I'll do that. > > Also, you mentioned the date of the 13th, how about a more recent > -stable snapshot? What was the latest snapshot you tried? I tried up to the 24th, which was the latest available at that stage. At the end I took the source of the 24th, built a kernel and tried it. It didn't work. I then reversed those 3 files, recompiled and the resulting kernel worked. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 12:21:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-69.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36AC37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0739F66B39; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:21:34 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Daniel Frazier Cc: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem applying openssl patch... Message-ID: <20010731122134.G34978@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <0.996590462@haral> <3B66C46B.50209@magpage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B66C46B.50209@magpage.com>; from dfrazier@magpage.com on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 10:44:59AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 10:44:59AM -0400, Daniel Frazier wrote: > Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: >=20 > > On Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:37:31 -0400, Daniel Frazier=20 > > wrote: > > +----- > > | the patch isn't patching for me. cd /usr/src; patch -p ~/openssl.pat= ch > > +--->8 > >=20 > > patch reads the patch from stdin; try "patch -p <~/openssl.patch". > >=20 >=20 > heh, you're quite right. I do have another problem, though.. The next > step would be cd /usr/src/lib/libcrypto/, but that dir doesn't exist. > should that be /usr/src/lib/libcrypt/? No, it should be /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto Kris --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7ZwU9Wry0BWjoQKURAiDYAJ0cv2i20pB8GWs2Rjze4tsv71NSfACg+je1 2aE4N4IiR6KaBJgyDLCg+fA= =QRwd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IuhbYIxU28t+Kd57-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 12:24:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe67.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866BC37B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:24:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chromus_@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:24:36 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [64.157.55.156] From: "Daniel Mirchandani" To: Subject: I get the point Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:27:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2001 19:24:36.0456 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F640680:01C119F6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm sorry for addressing my questions to the wrong group. I will head elsewhere. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 12:27:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1F537B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamont@scriptkiddie.org) Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (warez.scriptkiddie.org [209.162.142.38]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A1562D01; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:27:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Scott Lambert , Subject: Re: Watching DVD's in -stable In-Reply-To: <200107302334.f6UNYub30393@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: <20010731122508.V4531-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well I did this exactly as outlined and it still segflts before playing any video. The GTK_CONFIG helped as now i've got the control panel to start correctly. I suspect my video card is crapping out, though, its possible that might be related to the problems that I'm having. I've got a new video card showing up in the mail in the next couple of days and I'll have to give that a try. On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote: > For anyone who has followed this, 0.2.81 builds cleanly (assuming set > the GTK_CONFIG variable to point to gtk12-config) on -stable and works > fine ONCE I ENABLED DMA on the drive. (That means putting: > hw.ata.atpai_dma="1" > into my /boot/loader.conf file.) > > When I say "works", I mean that I see the video start to play and hear > the initial audio. I have yet to try running a full movie. > > When I did not have DMA enabled, I could occasionally get audio, but > no video. Even the audio played poorly. > > Steps followed: > 1. Download the tarball from http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download.html. > Both gzip and bzip2 files are available. The bz2 file is smaller. > 2. Unpack (tar -xjf vlc-0.2.81.tar.bz2) > 3. setenv GTK_CONFIG /usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config > 4. ./configure > 5. gmake (You will have to install the GNU make port for this to work.) > 6. gmake install > 7. gmake clean > 8. ln -s /dev/acd0c /dev/dvd (this assumes an ATAPI DVD/CD drive) > 9. Check DMA setting with "sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma". Of it is 0, add the > line in the first paragraph to /boot/loader.conf and reboot. > 10.vlc dvd:/dev/dvd > > If you don't have access to the dvd device, you will should probably > edit /etc/fbtab to get it. I don't recommend running anything as root > if you don't have to. > > That's about all you need to do! > > R. Kevin Oberman > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 13: 1:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FEA37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.4/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f6VK1LI38284; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:01:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200107312001.f6VK1LI38284@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr.\ Preprocessor]) Cc: Martin Kraemer , Matt Dillon , konecny@web.markiza.sk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Continuing ahc problems - also cause fxp failure In-Reply-To: Your message of "31 Jul 2001 14:00:58 +0200." Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:01:21 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I see an identical problem with and without this diff applied on an >ASUS motherboard with onboard SCSI. No onboard Ethernet. Your problem is actually quite different. In your case, the timeout occurs in a data-out phase and the chips status tells us: 1) The target still has us in data phase. 2) SCSI dma is still enabled. 3) Our data fifo is full of data to send on the SCSI bus, but its not going anywhere. So, the aic7890 believes that the target has stopped requesting more data, but we still haven't changed phase. This is the classic symptom of a flaky bus where the signals for clocking data are degraded. The target probably didn't see one or more of the controller's ACKs, so we are stuck. Double check your termination, cabling, power supply, etc, etc. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 13:42:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blandings.com (unknown [63.207.122.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62FC37B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:42:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anand@blandings.com) Received: (from anand@localhost) by blandings.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6VKgOQ22771 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anand) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:42:24 -0700 From: Anand To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: weird error messages on ata/ad. Message-ID: <20010731134224.A19676@Psmith.blandings.com> Reply-To: anand@blandings.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a 73G IBM drive that i'm running with tagged queueing enabled (also write cache enabled). My /usr/obj is on this disk. And I was doing a buildworld earlier today when I saw a bunch of these messages on my console: ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=1 - resetting ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: timeout waiting for READY ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0-slave: timeout waiting to give command=00 s=d0 e=04 ad1: flushing queue failed - resetting I'm wondering if this is something to worry about. (Besides the standard, what does it all mean). All help is appreciated. My dmesg is included below. Thanks a lot. Anand -- Anand Ranganathan anand@blandings.com ------------------------------------------------------ Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon Jul 23 15:30:24 PDT 2001 anand@Psmith.blandings.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PSMITH Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 real memory = 201326592 (196608K bytes) avail memory = 192421888 (187912K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc036f000. K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd000-0xd00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 10 dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xea001000-0xea0010ff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:f0:2d:83:9e miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pcm0: port 0xdc00-0xdc3f irq 12 at device 9.0 on pci0 dc1: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xea000000-0xea0003ff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 dc1: Ethernet address: 00:20:78:10:3d:11 miibus1: on dc1 ukphy1: on miibus1 ukphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port DUMMYNET initialized (010124) IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, unlimited logging ad0: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ad1: 73308MB [148945/16/63] at ata0-slave tagged UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ad1: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=1 - resetting ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: timeout waiting for READY ad1: invalidating queued requests - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=1 - resetting ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: timeout waiting for READY ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0-slave: timeout waiting to give command=00 s=d0 e=04 ad1: flushing queue failed - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=1 - resetting ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: timeout waiting for READY ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0-slave: timeout waiting to give command=00 s=d0 e=04 ad1: flushing queue failed - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=1 - resetting ad1: invalidating queued requests ad1: trying fallback to PIO mode ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ad1: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad1: invalidating queued requests done To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 14:14:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nextlevelinternet.com (mail.nextlevelinternet.com [63.210.161.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2BD37B406 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com) Received: from laptop ([64.154.93.18]) by mail.nextlevelinternet.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f6VLETA01383 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com) From: "Hayden Katzenellenbogen" To: Subject: Extra Line in my inetd.conf Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:11 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have noticed this line at the bottom of some of my inetd.conf files on a few of my machines.. it is though not commented out I have commented it out as well I have no idea what it does... any one care to shed some light on this? #dlip stream tcp nowait root /bin/sh sh -i Thanks Hayden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 14:14:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-30-103.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923C737B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18501E073 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28831 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:14:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id OAA12870; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200107312114.OAA12870@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 41 man pages with 582 lines worth of -mdoc warnings in today's -STABLE man pages Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:14:24 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2j/makemail 2.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the output of catman -v with a clean cat directory (which was the easiest way I could think of to try formatting all of the man pages). It's kind of embarassing to ship a system that spews a screen's worth of errors while formatting a man page... Perhaps the worst problem is the blank line warning, particularly with respect to externally-maintained man pages; named.conf.5 has 305 blank lines and -mdoc complains about each and every one... Bill -- Format: /usr/share/man/man1/dnskeygen.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat1/dnskeygen.1.gz Usage: .Cm interactive_command_modifier ... (#32) Usage: .Cm interactive_command_modifier ... (#33) Usage: .Cm interactive_command_modifier ... (#34) Usage: .Cm interactive_command_modifier ... (#35) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man1/host.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat1/host.1.gz mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `-compress' in .Bl request (#292) mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `-compress' in .Bl request (#299) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man1/k5init.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat1/k5init.1.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #138 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man3/inet.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat3/inet.3.gz mdoc warning: .St: Unknown standard abbreviation `-xns5.2d2.0' (#242) Please refer to the groff_mdoc(7) manpage for a list of available standard abbreviations. -- Format: /usr/share/man/man3/assertions.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat3/assertions.3.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #78 mdoc warning: Empty input line #80 mdoc warning: Empty input line #112 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man3/memcluster.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat3/memcluster.3.gz mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `means' in .Bl request (#279) mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `that,' in .Bl request (#279) mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `for' in .Bl request (#279) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man3/kafs.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat3/kafs.3.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #14 mdoc warning: Empty input line #15 mdoc warning: Empty input line #33 mdoc warning: Empty input line #34 mdoc warning: Empty input line #35 mdoc warning: Empty input line #36 mdoc warning: Empty input line #44 mdoc warning: Empty input line #69 mdoc warning: Empty input line #70 mdoc warning: Empty input line #71 mdoc warning: Empty input line #72 mdoc warning: Empty input line #73 mdoc warning: Empty input line #74 mdoc warning: Empty input line #75 mdoc warning: Empty input line #76 mdoc warning: Empty input line #77 mdoc warning: Empty input line #78 mdoc warning: Empty input line #79 mdoc warning: Empty input line #80 mdoc warning: Empty input line #81 mdoc warning: Empty input line #82 mdoc warning: Empty input line #83 mdoc warning: Empty input line #84 mdoc warning: Empty input line #92 mdoc warning: Empty input line #98 mdoc warning: Empty input line #101 mdoc warning: Empty input line #104 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man3/getprogname.3.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat3/getprogname.3.gz mdoc warning: .Nx: Unknown NetBSD version `1.6' (#90) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/gif.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/gif.4.gz mdoc warning: extraneous .El call (#214) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/wst.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/wst.4.gz Usage: .No normal_text ... (#93) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/alpm.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/alpm.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #40 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/cs.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/cs.4.gz mdoc warning: list open at EOF! A .Bl directive has no matching .El -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/dgb.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/dgb.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #54 mdoc warning: Empty input line #57 mdoc warning: list open at EOF! A .Bl directive has no matching .El -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/gsc.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/gsc.4.gz mdoc warning: list open at EOF! A .Bl directive has no matching .El -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/labpc.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/labpc.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #77 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/lnc.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/lnc.4.gz mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `ident' in .Bl request (#45) mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `-compat' in .Bl request (#45) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/matcd.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/matcd.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #109 mdoc warning: Empty input line #113 mdoc warning: Empty input line #120 mdoc warning: Empty input line #127 mdoc warning: Empty input line #129 mdoc warning: Empty input line #131 mdoc warning: Empty input line #133 mdoc warning: Empty input line #138 mdoc warning: Empty input line #146 mdoc warning: Empty input line #169 mdoc warning: Empty input line #171 mdoc warning: Empty input line #175 mdoc warning: Empty input line #177 mdoc warning: Empty input line #182 mdoc warning: Empty input line #199 mdoc warning: Empty input line #204 mdoc warning: Empty input line #209 mdoc warning: Empty input line #211 mdoc warning: Empty input line #223 mdoc warning: Empty input line #247 mdoc warning: Empty input line #251 mdoc warning: Empty input line #255 mdoc warning: Empty input line #260 mdoc warning: Empty input line #277 mdoc warning: Empty input line #372 mdoc warning: Empty input line #380 mdoc warning: Empty input line #384 mdoc warning: Empty input line #388 mdoc warning: Empty input line #391 mdoc warning: Empty input line #394 mdoc warning: Empty input line #412 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/meteor.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/meteor.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #107 mdoc warning: Empty input line #117 mdoc warning: Empty input line #127 mdoc warning: Empty input line #132 mdoc warning: Empty input line #134 mdoc warning: Empty input line #139 mdoc warning: Empty input line #141 mdoc warning: Empty input line #146 mdoc warning: Empty input line #153 mdoc warning: Empty input line #158 mdoc warning: Empty input line #203 mdoc warning: Empty input line #214 mdoc warning: Empty input line #219 mdoc warning: Empty input line #224 mdoc warning: Empty input line #229 mdoc warning: Empty input line #231 mdoc warning: Empty input line #236 mdoc warning: Empty input line #238 mdoc warning: Empty input line #243 mdoc warning: Empty input line #246 mdoc warning: Empty input line #251 mdoc warning: Empty input line #257 mdoc warning: Empty input line #259 mdoc warning: Empty input line #263 mdoc warning: Empty input line #345 mdoc warning: Empty input line #350 mdoc warning: Empty input line #352 mdoc warning: Empty input line #360 mdoc warning: Empty input line #363 mdoc warning: Empty input line #368 mdoc warning: Empty input line #371 mdoc warning: Empty input line #375 mdoc warning: Empty input line #383 mdoc warning: Empty input line #389 mdoc warning: Empty input line #395 mdoc warning: Empty input line #400 mdoc warning: Empty input line #401 mdoc warning: Empty input line #403 mdoc warning: Empty input line #408 mdoc warning: Empty input line #410 mdoc warning: Empty input line #415 mdoc warning: Empty input line #417 mdoc warning: Empty input line #422 mdoc warning: Empty input line #427 mdoc warning: Empty input line #429 mdoc warning: Empty input line #432 mdoc warning: Empty input line #434 mdoc warning: Empty input line #439 mdoc warning: Empty input line #445 mdoc warning: Empty input line #447 mdoc warning: Empty input line #448 mdoc warning: Empty input line #451 mdoc warning: Empty input line #768 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/pnp.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/pnp.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #65 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/scd.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/scd.4.gz mdoc warning: list open at EOF! A .Bl directive has no matching .El -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/spkr.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/spkr.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #150 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/tw.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/tw.4.gz mdoc warning: .It requests in lists of type `diag-list' require arguments (#88) mdoc warning: .It requests in lists of type `diag-list' require arguments (#90) mdoc warning: .It requests in lists of type `diag-list' require arguments (#102) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/vx.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/vx.4.gz mdoc warning: list open at EOF! A .Bl directive has no matching .El -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/wfd.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/wfd.4.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #122 mdoc warning: Empty input line #125 mdoc warning: Empty input line #129 mdoc warning: Empty input line #136 Usage: .No normal_text ... (#211) Usage: .No normal_text ... (#223) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/wt.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/wt.4.gz mdoc warning: Unknown keyword `indent' in .Bl request (#40) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/ng_ksocket.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/ng_ksocket.4.gz Usage: .Dv defined_variable ... (#72) Usage: .Dv defined_variable ... (#74) Usage: .Dv defined_variable ... (#75) Usage: .Dv defined_variable ... (#77) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man4/netgraph.4.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat4/netgraph.4.gz Usage: .Dv defined_variable ... (#751) -- Format: /usr/share/man/man5/rrenumd.conf.5.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat5/rrenumd.conf.5.gz .Bk: nesting keeps not implemented yet. 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A .Bl directive has no matching .El -- Format: /usr/share/man/man8/kpropd.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat8/kpropd.8.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #28 mdoc warning: Empty input line #30 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man8/kadmin.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat8/kadmin.8.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #67 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man8/kerberos.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat8/kerberos.8.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #74 mdoc warning: Empty input line #80 mdoc warning: Empty input line #118 mdoc warning: Empty input line #170 mdoc warning: Empty input line #189 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man8/kprop.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat8/kprop.8.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #24 mdoc warning: Empty input line #26 mdoc warning: Empty input line #42 mdoc warning: Empty input line #49 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man8/ksrvutil.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat8/ksrvutil.8.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #11 mdoc warning: Empty input line #23 mdoc warning: Empty input line #79 mdoc warning: Empty input line #82 mdoc warning: Empty input line #99 mdoc warning: Empty input line #103 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man8/kdc.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat8/kdc.8.gz mdoc warning: Empty input line #24 -- Format: /usr/share/man/man8/sysinstall.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/cat8/sysinstall.8.gz mdoc warning: .Fx: Unknown FreeBSD version `4.x' (#431) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 14:21:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AFF37B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f6VLLXs82942; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:21:33 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:21:33 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Hayden Katzenellenbogen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extra Line in my inetd.conf Message-ID: <20010801092133.C80418@itouchnz.itouch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:14:11PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:14:11PM -0700, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote: > I have noticed this line at the bottom of some of my inetd.conf files on a > few of my machines.. it is though not commented out I have commented it out > as well I have no idea what it does... > > any one care to shed some light on this? > > > > #dlip stream tcp nowait root /bin/sh sh -i Looks like a attempt to backdoor root. Any hack attempts lately? -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone" - Al Capone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 14:26:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-26-223-53.mmcable.com [65.26.223.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC8637B40A for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:26:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikea@mikea.ath.cx) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6VLQko05207 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:26:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:26:46 -0500 From: mikea To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extra Line in my inetd.conf Message-ID: <20010731162646.A5179@mikea.ath.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:14:11PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:14:11PM -0700, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote: > I have noticed this line at the bottom of some of my inetd.conf files on a > few of my machines.. it is though not commented out I have commented it out > as well I have no idea what it does... > > any one care to shed some light on this? > > > > #dlip stream tcp nowait root /bin/sh sh -i It appears to be some sort of IP-locking protocol, to judge by the smidgen of info I was able to find from a cursory Google. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 14:37:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBF637B406 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:37:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f6VLbmZ84531 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:37:48 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:37:48 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extra Line in my inetd.conf Message-ID: <20010801093748.D80418@itouchnz.itouch> References: <20010731162646.A5179@mikea.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010731162646.A5179@mikea.ath.cx>; from mikea@mikea.ath.cx on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 04:26:46PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 04:26:46PM -0500, mikea wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:14:11PM -0700, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote: > > I have noticed this line at the bottom of some of my inetd.conf files on a > > few of my machines.. it is though not commented out I have commented it out > > as well I have no idea what it does... > > > > any one care to shed some light on this? > > > > > > > > #dlip stream tcp nowait root /bin/sh sh -i > > It appears to be some sort of IP-locking protocol, to judge by > the smidgen of info I was able to find from a cursory Google. Any IP locking protocol that invokes an interactive root shell by telnetting to a port deserves to be removed. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 14:53: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drkshdw.org (user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net [207.30.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A21D37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scorpio@drkshdw.org) Received: (qmail 5970 invoked by uid 85); 31 Jul 2001 21:52:54 -0000 Received: from scorpio@drkshdw.org by drkshdw.org with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4149. . Clean. Processed in 0.259624 secs); 31 Jul 2001 21:52:54 -0000 Received: from localhost.isni.net (HELO localhost) (scorpio@127.0.0.1) by localhost.isni.net with SMTP; 31 Jul 2001 21:52:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:52:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Palmer X-X-Sender: To: Hayden Katzenellenbogen Cc: Subject: Re: Extra Line in my inetd.conf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010731174952.B5845-100000@jeff.isni.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have been hacked. this line simply opens up a shell (/bin/sh) in interactive mode (-i) on the port "dlip" as specified in your /etc/services file. (typically 7201) I'd advise taking that machine OFF the network, and perform an audit. Refer to online documentation on how to diagnose, analyze, and cure the exploit the attacker used to penetrate your system. Then apply that knowledge to the newly FORMATted machine. (Yes, I recommend a full format/reinstall of the OS) Jeff Palmer scorpio@drkshdw.org On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote: > I have noticed this line at the bottom of some of my inetd.conf files on a > few of my machines.. it is though not commented out I have commented it out > as well I have no idea what it does... > > any one care to shed some light on this? > > > > #dlip stream tcp nowait root /bin/sh sh -i > > > Thanks > Hayden > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 15: 1:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 524B437B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 11918 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Jul 2001 22:03:56 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15207.11084.101568.35660@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:03:56 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Watching DVD's in -stable In-Reply-To: <20010731122508.V4531-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> References: <200107302334.f6UNYub30393@ptavv.es.net> <20010731122508.V4531-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As far as I understand it, in order to get effective video display from any of the "new" players, your video card must support the XVideo extension. In XFree86 4.1, the ATI supports this, but I believe that the MGA driver still does not, although I cannot find a specific reference anymore to which drivers support Xv and which do not. Does anyone have a reference to the Xv support by driver? /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 15:27: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nova.fnal.gov (nova.fnal.gov [131.225.121.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B50737B40C for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:27:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07949 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:26:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:26:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: ata timeouts after debug commits In-Reply-To: <200107300718.f6U7Ipq34846@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just checked out RELENG_4 (as of last night) and did a buildworld, kernel, installworld, mergemaster & reboot on a brand new Dell Lattitude C800, it works fine for me. The lines you quote below from the boot match exactly, but the last two are replaced with: ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 19077MB [38760/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 - Tim On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, John Hay wrote: > Hi, > > I have been struggling with a Dell Latitude C800 here. FreeBSD 4.1 and 4.3 > was working with no problems, but when I tried to upgrade it to 4-stable, > it did not see the disk anymore. It just gave this message: > > ######### > atapci0: port 0xbfa0-0xbfaf at device 31.1 on pci > 0 > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 > ... > ata0-master: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr > ata0-master: identify failed > ######### > > At the end I tracked it down to these commits: > > src/sys/i386/i386/db_trace.c,v 1.35.2.1 2001/07/12 02:57:11 bsd > src/sys/i386/i386/support.s,v 1.67.2.4 2001/07/12 02:57:11 bsd > src/sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h,v 1.96.2.2 2001/07/12 02:57:11 bsd > > If I back those commits out, the machine boots and see the disk with no > problems. > > Anybody have any ideas about it? > > John > -- > John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 15:47:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f251.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2C837B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from modaya72@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:47:44 -0700 Received: from 203.39.46.163 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:47:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.39.46.163] From: "Kashyap Kumar" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Apache Log question! Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:47:43 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2001 22:47:44.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFCC70E0:01C11A12] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Can anybody help me to rotate my apache logs in /var/log directory. How can I do that with syslog? help very much appriciated /mn _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 15:56:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lax.whistle.com (lax.whistle.com [207.76.205.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5DC37B433 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:56:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evan@whistle.com) Received: from whistle.com (lax.whistle.com [207.76.205.133]) by lax.whistle.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6VMu4l40016; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:56:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evan@whistle.com) Message-ID: <3B673784.11969509@whistle.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:56:04 -0700 From: Evan Oldford Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kashyap Kumar Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Log question! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kashyap Kumar wrote: > > Hi, > > Can anybody help me to rotate my apache logs in /var/log directory. How can > I do that with syslog? > > help very much appriciated > > /mn http://www.freebsddiary.org/rotatelogs.php has a great example... -- _______________________________________________________________________ Evan Oldford * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 19: 4:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D54937B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from morpheus.kfu.com (morpheus.kfu.com [3ffe:1200:301b:1:2d0:b7ff:fe3f:bdd0]) by quack.kfu.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7124Sl30491 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:04:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com (nospam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by morpheus.kfu.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7124S401929 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B6763AC.3020108@quack.kfu.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:04:28 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010701 X-Accept-Language: en, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail .mc file building buglet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just supp'ed -stable and built the world. Now my .mc files make bad .cf files if I don't have FEATURE(access...) in them. The symptom is that the TLS stuff does LookUpDomain rule calls, but if the access feature isn't in there, then it complains at session start. BEFORE: OSTYPE(freebsd4) FEATURE(nullclient, mailhost) FEATURE(`nocanonify') FEATURE(`no_default_msa') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=25, Name=MTA, Addr=127.0.0.1, Family=INET') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=25, Name=MTA6, Addr=::1, Family=INET6') AFTER: OSTYPE(freebsd4) FEATURE(nullclient, mailhost) FEATURE(`nocanonify') FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(`no_default_msa') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=25, Name=MTA, Addr=127.0.0.1, Family=INET') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=25, Name=MTA6, Addr=::1, Family=INET6') (the no default msa and daemon options is an extra anti-relay measure) (the To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 19:14:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B436537B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f712E70m064755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) id f712E7XD064725; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:14:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15207.26095.204216.77435@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:14:07 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Nick Sayer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail .mc file building buglet In-Reply-To: <3B6763AC.3020108@quack.kfu.com> References: <3B6763AC.3020108@quack.kfu.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.5 (beta1) "anise" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG nsayer> Just supp'ed -stable and built the world. Now my .mc files make bad nsayer> .cf files if I don't have FEATURE(access...) in them. The symptom nsayer> is that the TLS stuff does LookUpDomain rule calls, but if the nsayer> access feature isn't in there, then it complains at session start. Please try this patch (applied to the HEAD, will apply to RELENG_4 if it fixes the problem for you). Index: etc/mail/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/mail/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -r1.19 Makefile --- etc/mail/Makefile 2001/07/23 02:18:34 1.19 +++ etc/mail/Makefile 2001/08/01 02:10:35 @@ -39,8 +39,6 @@ # uucpdomain, virtusertable # -SENDMAIL_M4_FLAGS+= -D_FFR_TLS_O_T - .ifndef SENDMAIL_MC SENDMAIL_MC!= hostname SENDMAIL_MC:= ${SENDMAIL_MC}.mc Index: etc/sendmail/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/sendmail/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 Makefile --- etc/sendmail/Makefile 2001/07/23 02:19:02 1.11 +++ etc/sendmail/Makefile 2001/08/01 02:10:39 @@ -10,8 +10,6 @@ SMDIR= ${SENDMAIL_DIR}/src CFDIR= ${SENDMAIL_DIR}/cf -SENDMAIL_M4_FLAGS+= -D_FFR_TLS_O_T - # this is overkill, but.... M4FILES!= find ${CFDIR} -type f -name '*.m4' -print To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 19:49:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BC037B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:kHuSBcUrlHbxNq1XtKHlTDtoHqSOeT0B@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f712n5772348 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200108010249.f712n5772348@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: tweten@nas.nasa.gov To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: STABLE Kernel Won't Build as of 7/28 From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-19650788480" Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:49:00 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-19650788480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since last Saturday, my attempts to "make kernel" have produced the following tail of woe: cc -c -O -pipe -m486 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel.debug if_ed.o: In function `ed_tick': /usr/src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c(.text+0x26dd): undefined reference to `mii_tick' if_ed.o: In function `ed_init': /usr/src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c(.text+0x2ace): undefined reference to `mii_mediachg' if_ed.o: In function `ed_ifmedia_upd': /usr/src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c(.text+0x4c19): undefined reference to `mii_mediachg' if_ed.o: In function `ed_ifmedia_sts': /usr/src/sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c(.text+0x4c4e): undefined reference to `mii_pollstat' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GILMORE. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Anybody have any ideas? My /etc/make.conf and kernel config files are attached. --==_Exmh_-19650788480 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="make.conf"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: make.conf COMPAT22=yes CPUTYPE=i486 DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 HAVE_MOTIF=yes JADETEX=yes KERNCONF=GILMORE MAKE_RSAINTL=yes PORTSSUPFILE=/root/cvs-ports PRINTERDEVICE=ps SENDMAIL_MC=/etc/mail/gilmore.mc SUP_UPDATE=yes SUPFILE=/root/cvs-core SUPFLAGS=-g SUPHOST=cvsup10.FreeBSD.org TOP_TABLE_SIZE=41 USA_RESIDENT=YES WITH_DES=yes WITH_ISPELL=yes WITH_X11=yes --==_Exmh_-19650788480 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="GILMORE"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: GILMORE # # GILMORE -- Gilmore.nas.nasa.gov configuration # machine i386 cpu I486_CPU ident GILMORE maxusers 64 makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options CD9660 #ISO 9660 filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options CPU_SUSP_HLT #Enables suspend on HALT options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE #Include this file in kernel options INET #InterNETworking options IPSEC #IP security options IPSEC_ESP #IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC) options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_NOSERVER #Disable the NFS-server code. options NSWAPDEV=2 #Number of swap devices options PROCFS #Process filesystem options SCSI_DELAY=5000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options SHMMAXPGS=4096 #16 meg reputed to be required by Gimp options SOFTUPDATES #Improves disk speed, reduces risk options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor device isa device eisa # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # SCSI Controllers device ahb0 device ahb1 device ahc0 # SCSI peripherals device scbus0 at ahb0 device scbus1 at ahb1 device scbus2 at ahc0 device da0 at scbus0 target 0 device da1 at scbus0 target 1 device da2 at scbus2 target 0 device da3 at scbus1 target 1 device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device ppi # Parallel port interface device # ISA Ethernet NICs. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 9 iomem 0xd0000 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device pty 64 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) --==_Exmh_-19650788480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. --==_Exmh_-19650788480-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 19:53:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F9D37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f712rYS13531; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:53:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.sentex.net (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f712rTG13523; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:53:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010731225100.027f4c88@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:53:28 -0400 To: tweten@nas.nasa.gov, stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: STABLE Kernel Won't Build as of 7/28 In-Reply-To: <200108010249.f712n5772348@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:49 PM 7/31/2001 -0700, Dave Tweten wrote: >Since last Saturday, my attempts to "make kernel" have produced the following >tail of woe: You might have cvsup'd in the middle of an update and didnt get all the bits. There are a lot of commits going on right now as there is a code freeze coming up. If you can, wait until tomorrow (the 1st) when the freeze goes into effect. -STABLE should be stable by then in terms of the volume of commits. cvsup once again, make world, make your kernel. Also, check the UPDATING to make sure there are no new bits needed like device miibus for a certain driver that did not need it before, but does now etc... ---Mike >---------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 20: 9:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD9537B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:UIYEIi6S3MRSeCkSFXfuo7A+aZohr3CN@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7139O773145; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200108010309.f7139O773145@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Lowell Gilbert , "Cam Smithers" Subject: Re: STABLE Kernel Won't Build as of 7/28 In-Reply-To: Message from "Cam Smithers" of "Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:47:25 PDT." <004001c11a34$4c7c9860$0100000a@macroscope.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:09:22 -0700 From: Dave Tweten Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG lowell@world.std.com said: >Read /usr/src/UPDATING. junk@dma.ca said: >device miibus needs to be defined in your kernel config Thank you both. I follow the list in part to see heads-up notices for this sort of thing. Must have missed this one. -- M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 20:49:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EAA37B405; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:49:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f713mYf55260; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:48:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:48:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: arch@FreeBSD.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-909119149-996637714=:54921" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-909119149-996637714=:54921 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of the observations that has been made fairly frequently to me is that the current default inetd.conf puts many FreeBSD users at risk unnecessarily, as many of them have moved to using SSH for remote access needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. The attached patch modifies inetd.conf to disable all services by default, and expands on the comments in the header so as to be more instructive concerning enabling and disabling services. It also modifies sysinstall such that enabling inetd in the post-install configuration describes inetd more than previously, mentions the risks, and then also presents the opportunity to edit inetd.conf if inetd is enabled. Also, during the normal install, the user is automatically prompted to enable or disable inetd in much the same style as the NFS server. I believe this addresses concerns about enabling remote telnetd login during install, which was one of the primary reasons to leave it enabled by default. Note that this does not disable the installation of the necessary software, merely disable it by default, so users can enable them again easily by modifying inetd.conf, either with the help of sysinstall, or manually. These changes select a safe default, but hopefully offer the necessary flexibility for users needing the services specifically. I've gotten reviews on content and configurability from Warner Losh, Chris Costello, and Jake Burkholder. Assuming no one seriously objects (or only a small number of people do), I'll commit to -CURRENT within a day or so, and MFC (pending RE approval) shortly there-after. Clearly, it would be desirable to have this in as many of the release snapshots as possible. Here, for the patch-impaired, are a couple of excerpts from sysinstall, so that language can be evaluated for readability and comprehensibility for more novice users: x x [ ] Gateway This machine will route packets between interfaces x x [X] inetd This machine wants to run the inet daemon x x [X] NFS client This machine will be an NFS client x xlqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq User Confirmation Requested qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx x x xx The Internet Super Server (inetd) allows a number of simple Internet xx x x xx services to be enabled, including finger, ftp, and telnetd. 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31 Jul 2001 20:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paco.blarg.net (paco.fatburrito.com [206.124.139.210]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21452; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:55:10 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010731205702.00b183d0@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: coffee@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:58:00 -0700 To: Robert Watson , arch@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Derek C." Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I am a fairly typical uninformed/idiot user, who is getting better every day, and I say the documentation is great, and the patch is a great idea. Derek At 08:48 PM 7/31/2001, Robert Watson wrote: >One of the observations that has been made fairly frequently to me is that >the current default inetd.conf puts many FreeBSD users at risk >unnecessarily, as many of them have moved to using SSH for remote access >needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security >bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more >conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base >install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. > >The attached patch modifies inetd.conf to disable all services by default, >and expands on the comments in the header so as to be more instructive >concerning enabling and disabling services. It also modifies sysinstall >such that enabling inetd in the post-install configuration describes inetd >more than previously, mentions the risks, and then also presents the >opportunity to edit inetd.conf if inetd is enabled. Also, during the >normal install, the user is automatically prompted to enable or disable >inetd in much the same style as the NFS server. > >I believe this addresses concerns about enabling remote telnetd login >during install, which was one of the primary reasons to leave it enabled >by default. Note that this does not disable the installation of the >necessary software, merely disable it by default, so users can enable them >again easily by modifying inetd.conf, either with the help of sysinstall, >or manually. These changes select a safe default, but hopefully offer the >necessary flexibility for users needing the services specifically. > >I've gotten reviews on content and configurability from Warner Losh, Chris >Costello, and Jake Burkholder. Assuming no one seriously objects (or only >a small number of people do), I'll commit to -CURRENT within a day or so, >and MFC (pending RE approval) shortly there-after. Clearly, it would be >desirable to have this in as many of the release snapshots as possible. > >Here, for the patch-impaired, are a couple of excerpts from sysinstall, so >that language can be evaluated for readability and comprehensibility for >more novice users: > >x x [ ] Gateway This machine will route packets between interfaces >x x [X] inetd This machine wants to run the inet daemon >x x [X] NFS client This machine will be an NFS client > >x xlqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq User Confirmation Requested >qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx x >x xx The Internet Super Server (inetd) allows a number of simple Internet xx x >x xx services to be enabled, including finger, ftp, and telnetd. Enabling >xx x >x xx these services may increase risk of security problems by increasing xx x >x xx the exposure of your system. xx x >x xx xx x >x xx With this in mind, do you wish to enable inetd? >xx x x xx >xx x x >xtqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqux x >x xx [ Yes ] No xx x > > >x xlqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq User Confirmation Requested >qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx x >x xx Inetd relies on its configuration file, /etc/inetd.conf, to determine >xx x >x xx which Internet services will be available. The default FreeBSD xx x >x xx inetd.conf leaves all services disabled by default, so they must be xx x >x xx specifically enabled in the configuration file before they will xx x >x xx function, even once inetd is enabled. xx x >x xx xx x >x xx Select [Yes] now to invoke an editor on /etc/inetd.conf, or [No] to xx x >x xx use the current settings. xx x >x xx xx x >x >xtqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqux x > >? usr.sbin/sysinstall/keymap.h >? usr.sbin/sysinstall/rtermcap >? usr.sbin/sysinstall/makedevs.c >? usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall >? usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall.8.gz >Index: usr.sbin/sysinstall/config.c >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/config.c,v >retrieving revision 1.183 >diff -u -r1.183 config.c >--- usr.sbin/sysinstall/config.c 2001/07/17 04:09:50 1.183 >+++ usr.sbin/sysinstall/config.c 2001/08/01 03:34:59 >@@ -955,6 +955,38 @@ > } > > int >+configInetd(dialogMenuItem *self) >+{ >+ char cmd[256]; >+ >+ WINDOW *w = savescr(); >+ >+ if (msgYesNo("The Internet Super Server (inetd) allows a number of >simple Internet\n" >+ "services to be enabled, including finger, ftp, and >telnetd. Enabling\n" >+ "these services may increase risk of security problems >by increasing\n" >+ "the exposure of your system.\n\n" >+ "With this in mind, do you wish to enable inetd?\n")) { >+ variable_set2("inetd_enable", "NO", 1); >+ } else { >+ /* If inetd is enabled, we'll need an inetd.conf */ >+ >+ if (!msgYesNo("inetd(8) relies on its configuration file, >/etc/inetd.conf, to determine\n" >+ "which Internet services will be available. The >default FreeBSD\n" >+ "inetd.conf(5) leaves all services disabled by >default, so they must be\n" >+ "specifically enabled in the configuration file before >they will\n" >+ "function, even once inetd(8) is enabled.\n\n" >+ "Select [Yes] now to invoke an editor on >/etc/inetd.conf, or [No] to\n" >+ "use the current settings.\n")) { >+ sprintf(cmd, "%s /etc/inetd.conf", variable_get(VAR_EDITOR)); >+ dialog_clear(); >+ systemExecute(cmd); >+ variable_set2("inetd_enable", "YES", 1); >+ } >+ } >+ restorescr(w); >+} >+ >+int > configNFSServer(dialogMenuItem *self) > { > char cmd[256]; >Index: usr.sbin/sysinstall/dispatch.c >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/dispatch.c,v >retrieving revision 1.38 >diff -u -r1.38 dispatch.c >--- usr.sbin/sysinstall/dispatch.c 2001/07/05 09:51:09 1.38 >+++ usr.sbin/sysinstall/dispatch.c 2001/08/01 03:35:05 >@@ -52,6 +52,7 @@ > } resWords[] = { > { "configAnonFTP", configAnonFTP }, > { "configRouter", configRouter }, >+ { "configInetd", configInetd }, > { "configNFSServer", configNFSServer }, > { "configNTP", configNTP }, > { "configPCNFSD", configPCNFSD }, >Index: usr.sbin/sysinstall/install.c >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/install.c,v >retrieving revision 1.300 >diff -u -r1.300 install.c >--- usr.sbin/sysinstall/install.c 2001/07/17 04:09:50 1.300 >+++ usr.sbin/sysinstall/install.c 2001/08/01 03:35:18 >@@ -573,6 +573,10 @@ > variable_set2("gateway_enable", "YES", 1); > > dialog_clear_norefresh(); >+ if (!msgNoYes("Do you want to configure inetd and simple internet >services?")) >+ configInetd(self); >+ >+ dialog_clear_norefresh(); > if (!msgNoYes("Do you want to have anonymous FTP access to this > machine?")) > configAnonFTP(self); > >Index: usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c,v >retrieving revision 1.310 >diff -u -r1.310 menus.c >--- usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c 2001/07/31 21:30:57 1.310 >+++ usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c 2001/08/01 03:35:53 >@@ -235,6 +235,7 @@ > { " FTP sites", "The FTP mirror site > listing.", NULL, dmenuSubmenu, NULL, &MenuMediaFTP }, > { " Gateway", "Set flag to route packets between > interfaces.", dmenuVarCheck, dmenuToggleVariable, NULL, "gateway=YES" }, > { " HTML Docs", "The HTML documentation > menu", NULL, docBrowser }, >+ { " inetd Configuration", "Configure inetd and simple >internet services.", dmenuVarCheck, configInetd, NULL, >"inetd_enable=YES" }, > { " Install, Standard", "A standard system > installation.", NULL, installStandard }, > { " Install, Express", "An express system > installation.", NULL, installExpress }, > { " Install, Custom", "The custom installation > menu", NULL, dmenuSubmenu, NULL, &MenuInstallCustom }, >@@ -1332,7 +1333,7 @@ > { " Gateway", "This machine will route packets between interfaces", > dmenuVarCheck, dmenuToggleVariable, NULL, "gateway_enable=YES" }, > { " inetd", "This machine wants to run the inet daemon", >- dmenuVarCheck, dmenuToggleVariable, NULL, "inetd_enable=YES" }, >+ dmenuVarCheck, configInetd, NULL, "inetd_enable=YES" }, > { " NFS client", "This machine will be an NFS client", > dmenuVarCheck, dmenuToggleVariable, NULL, "nfs_client_enable=YES" }, > { " NFS server", "This machine will be an NFS server", >Index: usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall.h >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall.h,v >retrieving revision 1.209 >diff -u -r1.209 sysinstall.h >--- usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall.h 2001/07/17 04:09:50 1.209 >+++ usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall.h 2001/08/01 03:36:06 >@@ -447,6 +447,7 @@ > extern int configXDesktop(dialogMenuItem *self); > extern int configRouter(dialogMenuItem *self); > extern int configPCNFSD(dialogMenuItem *self); >+extern int configInetd(dialogMenuItem *self); > extern int configNFSServer(dialogMenuItem *self); > extern int configWriteRC_conf(dialogMenuItem *self); > extern int configSecurityProfile(dialogMenuItem *self); >Index: etc/inetd.conf >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/inetd.conf,v >retrieving revision 1.48 >diff -u -r1.48 inetd.conf >--- etc/inetd.conf 2001/03/30 10:25:40 1.48 >+++ etc/inetd.conf 2001/08/01 03:36:10 >@@ -2,12 +2,14 @@ > # > # Internet server configuration database > # >-# define *both* IPv4 and IPv6 entries for dual-stack support. >+# Define *both* IPv4 and IPv6 entries for dual-stack support. >+# To disable a service, comment it out by prefixing the line with '#'. >+# To enable a service, remove the '#' at the beginning of the line. > # >-ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l >-ftp stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l >-telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd telnetd >-telnet stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd telnetd >+#ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l >+#ftp stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l >+#telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd >telnetd >+#telnet stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd >telnetd > #shell stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/rshd rshd > #shell stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/libexec/rshd rshd > #login stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/rlogind rlogind >@@ -17,10 +19,13 @@ > #exec stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/rexecd rexecd > #uucpd stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/uucpd uucpd > #nntp stream tcp nowait usenet /usr/libexec/nntpd nntpd >+# > # run comsat as root to be able to print partial mailbox contents w/ biff, > # or use the safer tty:tty to just print that new mail has been received. >-comsat dgram udp wait tty:tty /usr/libexec/comsat comsat >-ntalk dgram udp wait tty:tty /usr/libexec/ntalkd ntalkd >+#comsat dgram udp wait tty:tty /usr/libexec/comsat comsat >+# >+# ntalk is required for the 'talk' utility to work correctly >+#ntalk dgram udp wait tty:tty /usr/libexec/ntalkd ntalkd > #tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd > /tftpboot > #bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/bootpd > bootpd > # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 21:44: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A6437B403; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25617; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:43:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17641; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:43:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15207.35074.452967.466218@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:43:46 -0600 (MDT) To: Robert Watson Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One of the observations that has been made fairly frequently to me is that > the current default inetd.conf puts many FreeBSD users at risk > unnecessarily, as many of them have moved to using SSH for remote access > needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security > bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more > conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base > install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. FWIW, as one of the folks who argued against this in the past (function before security), the recent telnet remote access bugs have (finally?) convinced me that all un-necessary services should be disabled. Even 'local/innocent' adminstrators can get themselves in trouble real fast if another bad bug like the telnet one is found/exploited. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 21:45:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2432E37B401; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25667; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:45:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17669; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:45:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15207.35178.61523.131897@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:45:30 -0600 (MDT) To: Robert Watson Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One of the observations that has been made fairly frequently to me is that > the current default inetd.conf puts many FreeBSD users at risk > unnecessarily, as many of them have moved to using SSH for remote access > needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security > bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more > conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base > install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. In the same vein, shouldn't we also have the portmapper 'disabled' out of the box by default? I know we haven't (yet) had any remote exploits like Linux, but it may only be a matter of time. Plus, the crap filling up the logs could be argued as a type of DoS. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 21:55:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.xrxgsn.com (unknown [216.42.106.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D2B37B405; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:55:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike.porter@xrxgsn.com) Received: from laptop (1Cust201.tnt3.salt-lake-city.ut.da.uu.net [63.11.215.201]) by mailhost.xrxgsn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA12776; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00e501c11a45$f2165520$0300a8c0@laptop> From: "Mike Porter" To: "Robert Watson" , , "Derek C." Cc: Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:53:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Somehow I missed the original of this.... -----Original Message----- From: Derek C. To: Robert Watson ; arch@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:56 PM Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf >Well, I am a fairly typical uninformed/idiot user, who is getting better >every day, and I say the documentation is great, and the patch is a great idea. > >Derek > >At 08:48 PM 7/31/2001, Robert Watson wrote: > [snip the first introductory bits] > >>needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security >>bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more >>conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base >>install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. >> Seems like a pretty good idea to me; although it seems to me that perhaps disabling SSH by default is overkill; certainly I think that it is a good idea to disable telnet by default...nearly eveyone who NEEDS it should be able to add it easily enough...however... [...] >>concerning enabling and disabling services. It also modifies sysinstall >>such that enabling inetd in the post-install configuration describes inetd >>more than previously, mentions the risks, and then also presents the >>opportunity to edit inetd.conf if inetd is enabled. Also, during the >>normal install, the user is automatically prompted to enable or disable >>inetd in much the same style as the NFS server. >> [snip the details] It also seems to me that a better solution than just editing inetd.conf (especially for novice users) would be a sub-menu, similar to the one used to enable inetd and NFS and the like, allowing a user to check which services are desired. Of course, I am not familiar with sysinstall internals, so I don't know how much work this really entails, its just an idea. mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 22:21:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drkshdw.org (user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net [207.30.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6DED37B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scorpio@drkshdw.org) Received: (qmail 9261 invoked by uid 85); 1 Aug 2001 05:21:12 -0000 Received: from scorpio@drkshdw.org by drkshdw.org with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4149. . Clean. Processed in 0.26185 secs); 01 Aug 2001 05:21:12 -0000 Received: from localhost.isni.net (HELO localhost) (scorpio@127.0.0.1) by localhost.isni.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 05:21:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:21:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Palmer X-X-Sender: To: Robert Watson Cc: Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010801010958.X9176-100000@jeff.isni.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pardon my newbieness.. Doesn't the 4.x branch have a dialog box at install time asking you what security model you'd prefer.. if you select high security, 'inetd' itself is even disabed.. (Your own post showed the dialog) In my opinion, security is up to each individual administrator. They should enable and disable all services based on their own needs. I rarely see a machine with a competent admin, running a nearly 100% default install. Also, FreeBSD has been awesome at fixing security holes within minutes or hours (and in extreme cases, a day or two). So the likelyhood of any daemon being exploitable within the first 15 minutes of a fresh install are pretty much zero. Therefore, it doesn't matter what services are enabled/disabled in inetd.conf as most administrators edit that file within a few minutes of a default install anyway. The current model, you edit it to close some ports. in the model you suggest, you edit it to open some ports. Either way, it takes an entire 20 seconds (ok, 1 minute for the 'vi newbie') to edit the file and HUP inetd. I'd prefer to see people spending their time auditing the code, so we can be even more proactive about exploits and vulnerabilities than we currently are, rather than wasting time talking about services enabled in inetd. Just my two cents. Feel free to CC: me unless it's a flame. If it's a flame.. please add [FLAME] to the subject for the procmail filters. Jeff Palmer scorpio@drkshdw.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 22:29: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDF537B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luser@ahab.com) Received: from zed.unbeat.com ([66.108.17.148]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:36:24 -0400 Received: (from moxie@localhost) by zed.unbeat.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f713aaf01816 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:36:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luser@ahab.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:36:36 -0400 From: JT To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: [OT] Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time! Message-ID: <20010731233636.J405@zed.unbeat.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <200107242324.JAA23398@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:35:36PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 10:35:36PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > All I can say is that it is a pity no-one thought fit to add killfiles to my > > mailer. > > Go to http://www.perl.com and search on "Mail::Audit". :-) > Even better, try /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-Audit I have to say I'm pleased with the representation of quality perl modules in ports - and I haven't even used CPAN since the rumblings of nice integration with freebsd perl modules in ports... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 22:29:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4190437B403; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from coffee@blarg.net) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC50BCF2; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paco.blarg.net (trilluser@paco.fatburrito.com [206.124.139.210]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00860; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:29:13 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010731223153.03b3e370@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: coffee@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:32:33 -0700 To: "Mike Porter" , "Robert Watson" , From: "Derek C." Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf Cc: In-Reply-To: <00e501c11a45$f2165520$0300a8c0@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So did I... And nobody said anything about disabling SSH... the wording of the email confused me at first, but the services in question were FTP and Telnetd. Derek At 09:53 PM 7/31/2001, Mike Porter wrote: >Somehow I missed the original of this.... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Derek C. >To: Robert Watson ; arch@FreeBSD.ORG >Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:56 PM >Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to >edit , inetd.conf > > > >Well, I am a fairly typical uninformed/idiot user, who is getting better > >every day, and I say the documentation is great, and the patch is a great >idea. > > > >Derek > > > >At 08:48 PM 7/31/2001, Robert Watson wrote: > > >[snip the first introductory bits] > > > >>needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security > >>bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more > >>conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base > >>install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. > >> >Seems like a pretty good idea to me; although it seems to me that perhaps >disabling SSH by default is overkill; certainly I think that it is a good >idea to disable telnet by default...nearly eveyone who NEEDS it should be >able to add it easily enough...however... > > >[...] > >>concerning enabling and disabling services. It also modifies sysinstall > >>such that enabling inetd in the post-install configuration describes inetd > >>more than previously, mentions the risks, and then also presents the > >>opportunity to edit inetd.conf if inetd is enabled. Also, during the > >>normal install, the user is automatically prompted to enable or disable > >>inetd in much the same style as the NFS server. > >> >[snip the details] >It also seems to me that a better solution than just editing inetd.conf >(especially for novice users) would be a sub-menu, similar to the one used >to enable inetd and NFS and the like, allowing a user to check which >services are desired. Of course, I am not familiar with sysinstall >internals, so I don't know how much work this really entails, its just an >idea. > >mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 31 23:51:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8236837B40A for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamont@scriptkiddie.org) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0783862D02; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:52:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Scott Lambert , Subject: Re: Watching DVD's in -stable In-Reply-To: <20010731122508.V4531-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> Message-ID: <20010731234708.W1993-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, I dropped a Geforce2 MX400 in, and videolan started working. The quality isn't too great compared with DXR3 output under windows, but it works. There is a lot of background audio high frequency noise, there's also audio popping. Also, the video is a little bit jerky (similar to what i've seen with software DVD decoding in windows). Apparently it was either that my video card was dying, or videolan may not be compatible with TNT2 Ultras. xine still doesn't work for me though. whoops, i just tried subtitles and it cored... On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Lamont Granquist wrote: > Well I did this exactly as outlined and it still segflts before playing > any video. The GTK_CONFIG helped as now i've got the control panel to > start correctly. > > I suspect my video card is crapping out, though, its possible that might > be related to the problems that I'm having. I've got a new video card > showing up in the mail in the next couple of days and I'll have to give > that a try. > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > For anyone who has followed this, 0.2.81 builds cleanly (assuming set > > the GTK_CONFIG variable to point to gtk12-config) on -stable and works > > fine ONCE I ENABLED DMA on the drive. (That means putting: > > hw.ata.atpai_dma="1" > > into my /boot/loader.conf file.) > > > > When I say "works", I mean that I see the video start to play and hear > > the initial audio. I have yet to try running a full movie. > > > > When I did not have DMA enabled, I could occasionally get audio, but > > no video. Even the audio played poorly. > > > > Steps followed: > > 1. Download the tarball from http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download.html. > > Both gzip and bzip2 files are available. The bz2 file is smaller. > > 2. Unpack (tar -xjf vlc-0.2.81.tar.bz2) > > 3. setenv GTK_CONFIG /usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config > > 4. ./configure > > 5. gmake (You will have to install the GNU make port for this to work.) > > 6. gmake install > > 7. gmake clean > > 8. ln -s /dev/acd0c /dev/dvd (this assumes an ATAPI DVD/CD drive) > > 9. Check DMA setting with "sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma". Of it is 0, add the > > line in the first paragraph to /boot/loader.conf and reboot. > > 10.vlc dvd:/dev/dvd > > > > If you don't have access to the dvd device, you will should probably > > edit /etc/fbtab to get it. I don't recommend running anything as root > > if you don't have to. > > > > That's about all you need to do! > > > > R. Kevin Oberman > > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 0:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B188637B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D4F4CE70 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 03:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA10442 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 03:30:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id AAA22319; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108010730.AAA22319@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 41 man pages with 582 lines worth of -mdoc warnings in today's -STABLE man pages Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:30:06 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2j/makemail 2.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, it turns out the system I ran that on had some stale man pages. I cleared out /usr/share/man and built world again, and there were only a few problems in the base system: # of nroff man page errors ------ -------- 4 man1/dnskeygen.1.gz 2 man1/host.1.gz 3 man3/assertions.3.gz 3 man3/memcluster.3.gz 1 man3/getprogname.3.gz 1 man4/gif.4.gz 1 man4/wst.4.gz 4 man4/ng_ksocket.4.gz 1 man4/netgraph.4.gz 1 man5/rrenumd.conf.5.gz 306 man5/named.conf.5.gz 2 man8/sysctl.8.gz 14 man8/nsupdate.8.gz 1 man8/sysinstall.8.gz Most of these are from bind, so unless we want to remove them from the vendor branch and make merges harder there's not much to do about it. A bunch of the other ones mentioned in my previous message were from Kerberos, also externally maintained. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 3:22:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF0B37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 03:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15Rt8x-0004oL-00; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:22:23 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71AMIF12798; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:22:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:22:18 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Warner Losh Cc: Martin Dieringer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: init hangs leaving single user mode Message-ID: <20010801112218.A12773@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <200107281902.f6SJ2Tw23716@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200107281902.f6SJ2Tw23716@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 01:02:29PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 01:02:29PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: | In message Martin Dieringer writes: | : you have to eject the cards before going multiuser again, otherwise they | : are probed a second time. | : maybe pccardd is started a second time, too? | : I also think it is a bug | | I too think it is a bug :-) Now, if only someone would file a PR on | it and send me the number (or assign it to me) I won't forget about it | :-) Yes, sir! Consider it done. I just got back from vacation, I'll file it tonight when I get back to my laptop. This is how I got to learn about the zip driver, so if there is anything I can do to help, i.e. if you have an idea where to start looking for the problem, let me know. jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jonathon McKitrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | "I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself." | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 3:43:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skinner.codefactory.se (skinner.codefactory.se [212.32.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA2337B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 03:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anders@codefactory.se) Received: from jellyfish.codefactory.se (dhcp-106.gbg.codefactory.se [192.168.20.106]) by skinner.codefactory.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B752319134; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by jellyfish.codefactory.se (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4A2CD9883; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:43:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:43:23 +0200 From: Anders Andersson To: "David E. O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: RELENG_4 installworld broken Message-ID: <20010801124323.A1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just cvsup'd and built world, make installworld... ===> sbin/init install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin install: illegal option -- b usage: install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** Error code 64 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/init. -- Anders Andersson anders@codefactory.se CodeFactory AB http://www.codefactory.se/ Office: +46 (0)31 711 99 35 Cell: +46 (0)70 587 53 35 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 4: 1:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU [129.78.25.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D550E37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonym@angis.org.au) Received: (from tonym@localhost) by morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA01143 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:01:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:01:12 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just did buldworld, kernel, installworld cycle but there was one small problem in installworld o-----------------------------------------------------------------------o ===> sbin/init install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin install: illegal option -- b usage: install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** Error code 64 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/init. o-----------------------------------------------------------------------o Checking CVS I thought maybe I had cvsupped and got the init Makefile change and not the changes to (x)install but this does not appear to be the case. A second cvsup after the install did not get anything for xinstall and the manpage for install shows the new -b and -B (as does runningthe new install). Does installworld use the old install? In any case removing the "-b -B.bak" in sbin/init/Makefile and reinstalling solved the problem for me. tonym To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 4: 3:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skinner.codefactory.se (skinner.codefactory.se [212.32.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863AA37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:03:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anders@codefactory.se) Received: from jellyfish.codefactory.se (dhcp-106.gbg.codefactory.se [192.168.20.106]) by skinner.codefactory.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DFB1913D; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:03:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by jellyfish.codefactory.se (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 87CE29883; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:03:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:03:15 +0200 From: Anders Andersson To: Tony Maher Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Message-ID: <20010801130315.B1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> References: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:01:12PM +1000, Tony Maher wrote: > > Just did buldworld, kernel, installworld cycle but there was one small > problem in installworld > > o-----------------------------------------------------------------------o > ===> sbin/init > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin > install: illegal option -- b > usage: install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 > file2 > install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 > ... > fileN directory > install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... > *** Error code 64 > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/init. > o-----------------------------------------------------------------------o > > Checking CVS I thought maybe I had cvsupped and got the init Makefile > change and not the changes to (x)install but this does not appear to be the > case. A second cvsup after the install did not get anything for xinstall > and the manpage for install shows the new -b and -B (as does runningthe new > install). > > Does installworld use the old install? > > In any case removing the "-b -B.bak" in sbin/init/Makefile and reinstalling > solved the problem for me. Or as I did, cd /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall && make install and then installworld works. -- Anders Andersson anders@codefactory.se CodeFactory AB http://www.codefactory.se/ Office: +46 (0)31 711 99 35 Cell: +46 (0)70 587 53 35 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 4: 7:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU [129.78.25.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A4737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonym@angis.org.au) Received: (from tonym@localhost) by morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA01709; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:07:31 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:07:31 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200108011107.VAA01709@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> To: anders@codefactory.se Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall && make install > > and then installworld works. Ah of course, much better! thanks tonym To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 4:28:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A94C37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.5/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71BRxM98544; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:28:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:27:59 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Cc: Subject: Strange diskless bahaviour since CVSupdate today Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello out there. Today I did the last cvsupdate and installed everything successfuly on all servering systems. But there happened strange things to our diskless stations and it looks like really weird. The terminals are all DURON based diskless systems, booting via PXE and isc-dhcp2. On of these termninals is my administration terminal - and this on differs only in one point from the others: it is mentioned separately in /etc/exports where I export the diskless filesystem due to the fact all the other terminals belong to a netgroup 'xterms'. Luckily this one terminal boots perfectly and I can work, but all others boot kernel and the freeze at the point when on screen appears "additional TCP extensions", at this stage it should start XDM-chooser. I do not know why this behaviour is that strange since all terminals are identical and boot the identical way ... has anyone any idea? thanks -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6: 0:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.xrxgsn.com (unknown [216.42.106.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9286C37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike.porter@xrxgsn.com) Received: from laptop (1Cust140.tnt1.salt-lake-city.ut.da.uu.net [63.11.213.140]) by mailhost.xrxgsn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA23880; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000601c11a89$ab31e4a0$0300a8c0@laptop> From: "Mike Porter" To: "Robert Watson" , , "Derek C." Cc: Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:58:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Derek C. To: Mike Porter ; Robert Watson ; arch@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf >So did I... > >And nobody said anything about disabling SSH... the wording of the email >confused me at first, but the services in question were FTP and Telnetd. > errm....my bad. That's what I get for staying up past 11 to reply to messages. somehow I saw ssh in there. ftpd makes *much* more sense <(}: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6: 1:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2710137B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f71D1bf59358; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:01:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:01:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Jeff Palmer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf In-Reply-To: <20010801010958.X9176-100000@jeff.isni.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Jeff Palmer wrote: > Pardon my newbieness.. > > Doesn't the 4.x branch have a dialog box at install time asking you what > security model you'd prefer.. if you select high security, 'inetd' > itself is even disabed.. (Your own post showed the dialog) The problem, in my view, with the current "security profile" behavior is that it has a lot of baggage: in order to disable inetd, you have to accept securelevels, for example. Likewise, selecting the default leaves you with settings that, in the case of the recent telnet and ftp vulnerabilities, left you vulnerable to remote exploits out of the box. Because many new users select the defaults during the install, assuming they're be moderately "right", our selection of defaults should be relatively conservative so as to protect those users. An appropriate security stance is one that consists of a set of choices made by an administrator who is aware of the ramifications of the choice: they balance knowledge about their environment, both requirements and risks, in selecting configuration options. For new users, it's important that we choose settings that mitigate risk, allowing them to adopt additional risk when they determine it is appropriate. I.e., if they don't know what telnet is, we have no business turning it on, especially if it's going to get them rooted. > In my opinion, security is up to each individual administrator. They > should enable and disable all services based on their own needs. I > rarely see a machine with a competent admin, running a nearly 100% > default install. Absolutely: the majority of the attached patch was a modification to sysinstall to make configuring services *more* accessible, not less. It provides an improved description of the ramifications of enabling inetd, and offers the opportunity to configure which services are enabled earlier. It selects a more conservative default (all off), and permits the administrator to selectively enable services that they believe they need, rather than asserting they need services that (to be honest) are becoming less and less useful over time. > Also, FreeBSD has been awesome at fixing security holes within minutes > or hours (and in extreme cases, a day or two). So the likelyhood of any > daemon being exploitable within the first 15 minutes of a fresh install > are pretty much zero. Generally, we have a pretty good track record with fixing security problems, once we're informed of them. However, the reality is that the application of security patches is something that is both admin-"hard", and admin-"time consuming". Conservative defaults allow us to protect those administrators who weren't using the services anyway, and make administrators who do use the service more aware of what services are enabled in the system. This will make it easier for them to understand what security fixes they require, and reduce the number of occurences of "I'm vulnerable by virtue of a service I don't use, and didn't realize was on by default". > Therefore, it doesn't matter what services are enabled/disabled in > inetd.conf as most administrators edit that file within a few minutes of > a default install anyway. The current model, you edit it to close some > ports. in the model you suggest, you edit it to open some ports. > Either way, it takes an entire 20 seconds (ok, 1 minute for the 'vi > newbie') to edit the file and HUP inetd. If it doesn't matter what services are enabled or disabled from your perspective, selecting a default that disables provides the security benefits for less knowledgeable users, without costing you anything. If anything, it may make your life easier by prompting you with this opportunity during install. You believe that the average user's first act on a system is to disable services they don't need--I suspect that instead, it's to install additional services they know they do need, and to leave other things enabled because they're already on, and harmless, or to leave them on because they don't realize they're enabled. > I'd prefer to see people spending their time auditing the code, so we > can be even more proactive about exploits and vulnerabilities than we > currently are, rather than wasting time talking about services enabled > in inetd. I'm sorry you feel that way: from a practical perspective, there are a number of components to making an operating system secure. This includes both programmatic tasks concerning correctness, development of security models, and also making sure the system is simple to both administer and secure. When evaluating the security of a system, a very large part of the work includes evaluating its configuration: helping administrators select the right configuration for them, and encouraging sensible configuration, plays an important role in making proper configuration possible. In practice, the changes here took about half an hour to develop, and are an explicit response to the recent vulnerabilities: we need to not just fix the bugs, but also figure out how to reduce the impact of inevitable bugs. The reality is that the bugs will exist: a complete operating system is simply too complex to be bug-free. We need to respond to that reality by modifying our software: we should continue to target "least privilege" by reducing the privilege required for applications, reducing the impact of successful compromise, and by reducing the opportunity for compromise by disabling features and services that are unnecessary in the environment where the system is operating. The TrustedBSD project seeks to address the "least privilege" issue by reducing dependance on privilege (commits by Thomas Moestl in -CURRENT almost eliminate the need for setgid kmem binaries, which offer substantial), and increasing the degree to which privilege can be delegated in a fine-grained manner through improved operating system policy mechanisms (capabilities, ACLs, mandatory access control). Improved documentation and administrative security tools are an important, but less visible, part of that. > Just my two cents. Feel free to CC: me unless it's a flame. If it's a > flame.. please add [FLAME] to the subject for the procmail filters. :-) I hope you don't consider this a flame, rather, an honest disagreement on a contentious topic. My main concern in posting, or I would just have committed the patch outright, was to make sure that by making these changes, I wouldn't *break* functionality for a class of users. For example, simply disabling telnet in inetd.conf would have caused problems for those who use serial console configuration followed by telnet to log in, but on a trusted network segment. To disable telnet, we first need to offer the opportunity to re-enable it in the install. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6: 6:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ABA37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:06:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f71D5vf59389; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:05:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Mike Porter Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, "Derek C." , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf In-Reply-To: <00e501c11a45$f2165520$0300a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mike Porter wrote: > Seems like a pretty good idea to me; although it seems to me that > perhaps disabling SSH by default is overkill; certainly I think that it > is a good idea to disable telnet by default...nearly eveyone who NEEDS > it should be able to add it easily enough...however... Actually, although I'm happy with the current default of enabling SSH for now, if there isn't already a sysinstall post-install config twiddle for SSH, we should probably add one. To be honest, a "default all off" policy, with the opportunity to enable easily in sysinstall, might be better than turning SSH on by default. Maybe we'll do that for 5.0-RELEASE :-). > >>concerning enabling and disabling services. It also modifies sysinstall > >>such that enabling inetd in the post-install configuration describes inetd > >>more than previously, mentions the risks, and then also presents the > >>opportunity to edit inetd.conf if inetd is enabled. Also, during the > >>normal install, the user is automatically prompted to enable or disable > >>inetd in much the same style as the NFS server. > >> > [snip the details] > It also seems to me that a better solution than just editing inetd.conf > (especially for novice users) would be a sub-menu, similar to the one > used to enable inetd and NFS and the like, allowing a user to check > which services are desired. Of course, I am not familiar with > sysinstall internals, so I don't know how much work this really entails, > its just an idea. This is true--however, the inetd.conf file doesn't lend itself to automated management, as it doesn't have an inline "disabled" flag. To disable a service, you comment it out, making it hard for a program to distinguish things which are legitimately comments, and things that are disabled services. In the long term, it would probably make sense to develop some sort of administrative tool for inetd.conf: however, I concluded that doing so prior to 4.4-RELEASE was unlikely, and opted for this. In the future, if such a tool is developed, I'd be happy to slot it in instead of invoking EDITOR on it :-). Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6: 8:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27E537B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f71D8Tf59418; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:08:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:08:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Nate Williams Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf) In-Reply-To: <15207.35178.61523.131897@nomad.yogotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Nate Williams wrote: > > One of the observations that has been made fairly frequently to me is that > > the current default inetd.conf puts many FreeBSD users at risk > > unnecessarily, as many of them have moved to using SSH for remote access > > needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security > > bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more > > conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base > > install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. > > In the same vein, shouldn't we also have the portmapper 'disabled' out > of the box by default? I know we haven't (yet) had any remote exploits > like Linux, but it may only be a matter of time. > > Plus, the crap filling up the logs could be argued as a type of DoS. I'd be tempted to disable the portmapper (rpcbind in -CURRENT) by default, allowing it to either be manually enabled, or enabled by virtue of dependencies (something we already support). Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6: 8:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C14F37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15Rvjv-000BUU-00; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:08:43 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71D8hu14017; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:08:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:08:42 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ggong@cal.alumni.berkeley.edu Subject: question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article) Message-ID: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the article in Daemonnews on tuning a BSD box for high performance, there were 2 miscellaneous tweaks mentioned. One was partition layout, and the other was turning on 'noatime' for most of the partitions. What partition layout strategies are suggested for servers? For workstations? I have noatime turned on for my root partition. What other partitions can use this setting for servers? And for workstations? Does it have any downside? jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jonathon McKitrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | "I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself." | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6:13:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A426037B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 1 Aug 2001 14:13:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:13:47 +0100 From: David Malone To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange diskless bahaviour since CVSupdate today Message-ID: <20010801141346.A46631@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:27:59PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:27:59PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: > The terminals are all DURON based diskless systems, booting via PXE > and isc-dhcp2. On of these termninals is my administration terminal - > and this on differs only in one point from the others: it is mentioned > separately in /etc/exports where I export the diskless filesystem due > to the fact all the other terminals belong to a netgroup 'xterms'. It might be worth checking the server log to see if mountd produced any errors. Also, see what "showmount -e server.host.name" says. > Luckily this one terminal boots perfectly and I can work, but all others > boot kernel and the freeze at the point when on screen appears > "additional TCP extensions", at this stage it should start XDM-chooser. Try pressing Control-T on the terminal and see what program is running. Also see what it is waiting on (That's the word in square brackets). David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6:17:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2544437B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@shaft.techsupport.co.uk) Received: from rasputin by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15RvzB-000Flp-00; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:24:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:24:29 +0100 From: Rasputin To: j mckitrick Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article) Message-ID: <20010801142428.A60605@shaft.techsupport.co.uk> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 02:08:42PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * j mckitrick [010801 14:17]: > > In the article in Daemonnews on tuning a BSD box for high performance, there > were 2 miscellaneous tweaks mentioned. One was partition layout, and the > other was turning on 'noatime' for most of the partitions. > > What partition layout strategies are suggested for servers? For > workstations? > > I have noatime turned on for my root partition. What other partitions can > use this setting for servers? And for workstations? Does it have any > downside? I think 'man tuning' says that noatime can mess up applications that use the modification time in their logic. (I wouldn't put it on /var, but that's mainly superstition) -- Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6:24:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFF837B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:24:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71DO1D09315; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71DO1X26352; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 7205723; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:23:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3B6802F0.6517F0A9@mitre.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:24:00 -0400 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Kelsey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Watching DVD's in -stable References: <200107302334.f6UNYub30393@ptavv.es.net> <20010731122508.V4531-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> <15207.11084.101568.35660@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Kelsey wrote: > > As far as I understand it, in order to get effective video display from > any of the "new" players, your video card must support the XVideo > extension. In XFree86 4.1, the ATI supports this, but I believe that > the MGA driver still does not, although I cannot find a specific > reference anymore to which drivers support Xv and which do not. Does > anyone have a reference to the Xv support by driver? I think the MGA driver supports Xv. At least when I turned on the Xv display it worked for a bit (although it crashed not too long afterward). This is on a G200 with the Matrox HAL driver under Xfree86 4.1.0. Actually, all three modes worked (to varying degrees) on my system: Ximages (I guess), Xv, and SDL. The SDL display had some weird issues with looking really blocky on the bottom 3/4 of the image. Subtitles don't work at all from what I can tell. I can turn them on (and if I watch the debug output I see that it found the subtitle track), but nothing is ever displayed. The display is unfortunatly jerky. The worst part is, my CPU isn't even pegged. From what I can tell, vlc reads off a block from the DVD, de-csses it, decodes it, sends it to the display plugin, THEN reads off the next block. My DVD doesn't seek (or transfer) fast enough for it to keep up[1]. If vlc kept some sort of buffer full of blocks, I bet it would be smooth on even fairly low end systems. [1] And this is a 16x DVD using UDMA33 transfers. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6:28:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.enst.fr (matrix2.enst.fr [137.194.2.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1628137B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beyssac@enst.fr) Received: from bofh.enst.fr (bofh-2.enst.fr [137.194.2.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by smtp2.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BA67D27; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:27:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from beyssac@localhost) by bofh.enst.fr (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f71DRwO01026; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:27:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from beyssac) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:27:58 +0200 From: Pierre Beyssac To: Anders Andersson Cc: "David E. O'Brien" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld broken Message-ID: <20010801152758.A964@bofh.enst.fr> References: <20010801124323.A1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010801124323.A1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se>; from anders@codefactory.se on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:43:23PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:43:23PM +0200, Anders Andersson wrote: > Just cvsup'd and built world, > > make installworld... > > ===> sbin/init > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin Install the new "install" by hand, that does it. cd /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall make install mv /usr/bin/install /usr/bin/install.old mv /usr/bin/xinstall /usr/bin/install Then try installworld again. -- Pierre Beyssac pb@enst.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6:32: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from comp04.prc.uic.edu (comp04.prc.uic.edu [128.248.230.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0863837B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucas@comp04.prc.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 61070 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Aug 2001 13:32:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:32:03 -0500 From: Lucas Bergman To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with "rmuser" Message-ID: <20010801083203.A61037@comp04.prc.uic.edu> Reply-To: lucas@slb.to References: <20010801125415.S16379@everest.wananchi.com> <20010801075314.A58468@comp04.prc.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010801075314.A58468@comp04.prc.uic.edu>; from lucas@slb.to on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 07:53:14AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Odhiambo: > > After a cvsupping and doing complete update yesterday, I now have > > a very funny problem - I can't remove users! > > > > everest# rmuser test2 > > Matching password entry: > > test2:RUgtD0aLuma/E:5259:1004::0:0:Test Two:/home/test2:/nonexistent > > > > Is this the entry you wish to remove? y > > > > Remove user's home directory (/home/test2)? y > > > > Removing user's at jobs:Updating password file, > > /usr/sbin/rmuser: Error: Couldn't open file : > > No such file or directory > > > > Is there something wierd I might have done? Replied I: > I don't think so. It looks like some recent changes broke rmuser. > I'm looking into it. It looks like rmuser is indeed broken. I submitted a PR with the following patch, which works for me. As usual, there is no guarantee that this won't totally destroy your password database; use with *extreme* caution. http://www.slb.to/~lucas/patches/rmuser-200108011320.diff Apply the patch in /usr/src/usr.sbin/adduser. Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 6:33:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hercules.icarz.com (ns1.icarz.com [207.99.22.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800BA37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenm@icarz.com) Received: from newken (dhcp113.icarz.com [207.99.22.113]) by hercules.icarz.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f71DXDK19249 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <026901c11a8e$83c09880$711663cf@icarz.com> From: "Ken Menzel" To: References: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA6B@exchange.epr.com> Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:33:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi James and the others using Dell and FBSD, I have had terrible problems with the perc controllers from Dell that have been discussed before on this list. However we order our 2400's and 1400's from dell and add Adaptec's 2100S and 3200S controllers that Mike Smith added support for in 4.2 and the hardware RAID is the fastest reliable RAID we have ever seen. The only difficulty is find the "raidutil" and storage manager software for FreeBSD. They don't provide source, but with enough digging I found the executables. Haven't had much luck with storage manager but raidutil works just great from the command line. Here is a link for the products: http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/prodtechindex.html?cat=/Techn ology/RAID Hope this helps others on Dell, it would be great to get Dell to offers these controllers instead of those crappy PERC controllers, but these I guess are too expensive??? Hope this helps other freebsd-stable users, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Satterfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: RE: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable > # Begin rambling > The Perc 3QC is an AMI Enterprise 1600 card. I've got two of them. They both > suck. =) > I've done a LOT of disk IO benchmarking with the Perc 3Di and 3QC cards in > the last few months. Awful results. If anyone is interested, I could send > them some of my findings (and a few things Dell has said about the > performance). Basically, I ended up removing the QC cards, installing a few > 2 channel ultra160 cards, and running software raid because the hardware > solution was so poor. It was very nice of Dell to start including a branded > version of Veritas Volume Manager as their array management solution. > # End rambling > James > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@FreeBSD.ORG] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:08 AM > To: Kevin Oberman > Cc: Tim Kellers; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable > > > > Here is a summary of PERC hardware from Mike Smith who did most (all) > > of the driver work for them: > > The PERC, PERC 2/SC, PERC 2/DC and PERC 3/D* are AMI designs. > > > > The PERC 2/Si, PERC 2/Di, PERC 3/Si and PERC 2/QC are Adaptec designs. > > > > "PERC" means "this is a Dell-branded RAID controller". > > "2" and "3" refer to 40MHz vs 80MHz SCSI support. > > "S" "D" and "Q" are single, dual and quad channel designations. > > "i" means it's integrated onto the server motherboard. > > "C" means it's an addin card. > > "L" means it's the low-cost version. > > Just to amend this; the 3/DC is an AMI controller, but the 3/Di is an > Adaptec design. > > Another way of looking at it is that if it's an 'i', or a QC, it's an > Adaptec. Otherwise it's an AMI. Knowing Dell, though, this may change > again without too much notice. 8( > > -- > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7: 3:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEE337B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA24913; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:03:13 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda24911; Wed Aug 1 07:02:55 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f71E2sc46085; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdb46083; Wed Aug 1 07:02:14 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f71E2Dm30982; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108011402.f71E2Dm30982@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdo30977; Wed Aug 1 07:02:03 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Robert Watson Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:48:34 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:02:03 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Robe rt Watson writes: > One of the observations that has been made fairly frequently to me is that > the current default inetd.conf puts many FreeBSD users at risk > unnecessarily, as many of them have moved to using SSH for remote access > needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security > bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more > conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base > install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. I think that this is goodness. I have been an advocate of this (actually a less balanced approach -- of which I've seen the light and error of my thinking) for a long time. For that matter one of my biggest pet peeves about RH Linux is that by default it installs everything and enables everything. I think that the approach taken here is a balanced approach and is the correct approach. Services are not removed from the system entirely and can be enabled if needed. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD Ministry of Management Services Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7: 4:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652DD37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr6.exu.ericsson.se (mr6u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.123]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71E4Sp00512; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:04:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr6.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71E4Sb25296; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:04:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f71E4RA17409; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:04:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:04:26 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QBWKFLM0; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:04:18 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: imp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B680C63.8030700@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:04:19 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010717 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) References: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> <20010801130315.B1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shouldn't this mandate a UPDATING entry? Or is it already the case? ;) A Anders Andersson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:01:12PM +1000, Tony Maher wrote: > >>Just did buldworld, kernel, installworld cycle but there was one small >>problem in installworld >> >>o-----------------------------------------------------------------------o >>===> sbin/init >>install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin >>install: illegal option -- b >>usage: install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 >>file2 >> install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 >>... >> fileN directory >> install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... >>*** Error code 64 >> >>Stop in /usr/src/sbin/init. >>o-----------------------------------------------------------------------o >> >>Checking CVS I thought maybe I had cvsupped and got the init Makefile >>change and not the changes to (x)install but this does not appear to be the >>case. A second cvsup after the install did not get anything for xinstall >>and the manpage for install shows the new -b and -B (as does runningthe new >>install). >> >>Does installworld use the old install? >> >>In any case removing the "-b -B.bak" in sbin/init/Makefile and reinstalling >>solved the problem for me. >> > > Or as I did, > > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall && make install > > and then installworld works. > > -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7:14: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (unknown [212.49.74.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA16237B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.31 #5) id 15Rwki-000EVE-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 17:13:36 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:13:36 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-STABLE Subject: make world failure Message-ID: <20010801171336.E48472@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 5:12PM up 1 day, 1:38, 3 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.28, 0.46 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cvsup today: install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 growfs.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 =3D=3D=3D> sbin/ifconfig install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ifconfig /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ifconfig.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 =3D=3D=3D> sbin/init install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin *** Error code 64 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/init. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Any advice highly appreciated. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse. Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286,00100-NAIROBI,KE. In activity we must find our joy as well as glory; and labor, like everythi= ng=20 else that is good, is its own reward.=20 -Edwin P. Whipple=20 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aA6Qn7LIsuxjem8RAgpdAJ9Rf/GpncNcLQfvjnDIiZMV3kQH1ACeMV// 16AY06YznHhRdVmhAQ8dQMM= =QNwK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7:18:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302A737B503 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:18:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcservice.schweizer@spectraweb.ch) Received: from pc-service.ch (pop-mu-1-1-dialup-170.spectraweb.ch [194.230.153.170]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA27177 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:18:14 +0200 Received: (from martin@localhost) by pc-service.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f71EM2200609 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:22:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pcservice.schweizer@spectraweb.ch) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:21:52 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Telnet Message-ID: <20010801162151.A590@pc-service.ch> Reply-To: Martin Schweizer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I would connect to my shell machine at otaku.freeshell.org. If I use telnet from Win9x/WinNT/Win2k I've no problem to access. If I use telnet from FreeBSD4.3 I can't correct steering my shell (some keys won't functions). I changed also the TERM variable to vt100 without success (in this case the command line from FreeBSD ist verry strange). What I doing wrong? Thank you in advance. -- Regards, Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer; Gewerbehaus Schwarz; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7:19:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555A437B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr6.exu.ericsson.se (mr6att.ericy.com [138.85.92.14]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71EBQ513387; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:11:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr6.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71EBPb27678; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:11:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f71EBOA17880; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:11:24 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QBWKFLRG; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:11:18 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Rasputin Cc: j mckitrick , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B680E06.8090701@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:11:18 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010717 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article) References: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010801142428.A60605@shaft.techsupport.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rasputin wrote: > * j mckitrick [010801 14:17]: > >>In the article in Daemonnews on tuning a BSD box for high performance, there >>were 2 miscellaneous tweaks mentioned. One was partition layout, and the >>other was turning on 'noatime' for most of the partitions. >> >>What partition layout strategies are suggested for servers? For >>workstations? >> >>I have noatime turned on for my root partition. What other partitions can >>use this setting for servers? And for workstations? Does it have any >>downside? >> > > I think 'man tuning' says that noatime can mess up applications > that use the modification time in their logic. > (I wouldn't put it on /var, but that's mainly superstition) Err... Isn't "atime" -> "access time"?? And the tuning(7) manpage on my -stable system doesn't mention this. A. -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7:28:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C20E37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15RwzB-000Lg0-00; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:28:33 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71ESWM00856; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:28:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:28:32 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Rasputin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article) Message-ID: <20010801152832.A828@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010801142428.A60605@shaft.techsupport.co.uk> <3B680E06.8090701@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3B680E06.8090701@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:11:18AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:11:18AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: | | | Rasputin wrote: | > * j mckitrick [010801 14:17]: | > | >>In the article in Daemonnews on tuning a BSD box for high performance, there | >>were 2 miscellaneous tweaks mentioned. One was partition layout, and the | >>other was turning on 'noatime' for most of the partitions. | >> | >>What partition layout strategies are suggested for servers? For | >>workstations? | >> | >>I have noatime turned on for my root partition. What other partitions can | >>use this setting for servers? And for workstations? Does it have any | >>downside? | >> | > | > I think 'man tuning' says that noatime can mess up applications | > that use the modification time in their logic. | > (I wouldn't put it on /var, but that's mainly superstition) | | Err... Isn't "atime" -> "access time"?? | | And the tuning(7) manpage on my -stable system doesn't mention this. Odd. Did you try searching for 'atime' and not 'access time' ? jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jonathon McKitrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | "I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself." | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7:47:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987AF37B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71EkrD25199; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71EkqX14270; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 7207652; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:46:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3B68165B.EB31A0E1@mitre.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:46:51 -0400 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Schweizer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Telnet References: <20010801162151.A590@pc-service.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Schweizer wrote: > > Hello > > I would connect to my shell machine at otaku.freeshell.org. If I use telnet > from Win9x/WinNT/Win2k I've no problem to access. If I use telnet from > FreeBSD4.3 I can't correct steering my shell (some keys won't functions). I > changed also the TERM variable to vt100 without success (in this case the > command line from FreeBSD ist verry strange). What I doing wrong? > Thank you in advance. How are you using telnet from the FreeBSD machine? Are you on the console or are you in an xterm? The PC Console isn't a very good VT100 emulator, you need to use a mode like "pc-cons" or "pc-ansi" or "ansi" or "cons25" or "pccons" or whatever the remote system actually has for PC consoles. XTerms in general are halfway decent VT100 emulators, but using "xterm" is even better. Windows telnet is a terrible emulator, but if you consider it to work with "no problems" as a vt100 terminal, then you should have no problem getting equivelent functionality out of FreeBSD with the right term variable. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 7:54:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D9937B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:54:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71El6p24721; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71El6v15333; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f71El5A20980; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:47:04 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QBWKFMJ8; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:46:56 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: j mckitrick Cc: Rasputin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B68165F.5090207@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:46:55 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010717 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article) References: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010801142428.A60605@shaft.techsupport.co.uk> <3B680E06.8090701@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010801152832.A828@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > | > I think 'man tuning' says that noatime can mess up applications > | > that use the modification time in their logic. > | > (I wouldn't put it on /var, but that's mainly superstition) > | > | Err... Isn't "atime" -> "access time"?? > | > | And the tuning(7) manpage on my -stable system doesn't mention this. > > Odd. Did you try searching for 'atime' and not 'access time' ? Well, yes.. The man page mentions "noatime" but does not talk about "modification times messing up logic". :) "Do not gratu- itously turn off atime updates everywhere.. for example, you might as well leave them turned on for mostly read-only partitions such as / and /usr (especially for / since some system utilities use the atime field for reporting)." atime != mtime. :) A. -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 8: 2:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0336537B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15RxVb-000MMh-00; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:02:03 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71F22D01313; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:02:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:02:02 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Rasputin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article) Message-ID: <20010801160202.B996@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010801142428.A60605@shaft.techsupport.co.uk> <3B680E06.8090701@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010801152832.A828@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B68165F.5090207@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3B68165F.5090207@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:46:55AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:46:55AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: | > | > I think 'man tuning' says that noatime can mess up applications | > | > that use the modification time in their logic. | > | > (I wouldn't put it on /var, but that's mainly superstition) | > | | > | Err... Isn't "atime" -> "access time"?? | > | | > | And the tuning(7) manpage on my -stable system doesn't mention this. | > | > Odd. Did you try searching for 'atime' and not 'access time' ? | | Well, yes.. The man page mentions "noatime" but does not talk about | "modification times messing up logic". :) My guess is he meant access time, not modification time. But I'm not 100% sure. | "Do not gratu- | itously turn off atime updates everywhere.. for example, you might as | well leave them turned on for mostly read-only partitions such as / and | /usr (especially for / since some system utilities use the atime field | for reporting)." | | atime != mtime. :) | | A. | | -- | Antoine Beaupré | Jambala TCM team | Ericsson Canada inc. | mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." - Weekend Update, SNL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 8:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (unknown [212.49.74.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C2037B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.31 #5) id 15Rxj1-000HDl-00; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:15:55 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:15:55 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: lucas@slb.to Subject: Re: Help with "rmuser" Message-ID: <20010801181555.H48472@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, lucas@slb.to References: <20010801125415.S16379@everest.wananchi.com> <20010801075314.A58468@comp04.prc.uic.edu> <20010801083203.A61037@comp04.prc.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010801083203.A61037@comp04.prc.uic.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 6:14PM up 1 day, 2:40, 2 users, load averages: 0.26, 0.27, 0.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Lucas Bergman [20010801 16:33]: writing on the subject 'Re= : Help with "rmuser"' Lucas> Thus spake Odhiambo: Lucas>=20 Lucas> > > After a cvsupping and doing complete update yesterday, I now have Lucas> > > a very funny problem - I can't remove users! Lucas> > >=20 Lucas> > > everest# rmuser test2 Lucas> > > Matching password entry: Lucas> > > test2:RUgtD0aLuma/E:5259:1004::0:0:Test Two:/home/test2:/nonexis= tent Lucas> > >=20 Lucas> > > Is this the entry you wish to remove? y Lucas> > >=20 Lucas> > > Remove user's home directory (/home/test2)? y Lucas> > >=20 Lucas> > > Removing user's at jobs:Updating password file, Lucas> > > /usr/sbin/rmuser: Error: Couldn't open file : Lucas> > > No such file or directory Lucas> > >=20 Lucas> > > Is there something wierd I might have done? Lucas>=20 Lucas> Replied I: Lucas>=20 Lucas> > I don't think so. It looks like some recent changes broke rmuser. Lucas> > I'm looking into it. Lucas>=20 Lucas> It looks like rmuser is indeed broken. I submitted a PR with the Lucas> following patch, which works for me. As usual, there is no guarantee Lucas> that this won't totally destroy your password database; use with Lucas> *extreme* caution. Lucas>=20 Lucas> http://www.slb.to/~lucas/patches/rmuser-200108011320.diff Lucas>=20 Lucas> Apply the patch in /usr/src/usr.sbin/adduser. Hi Lucas, Thank you for the patch. I've applied it and it's worked perfectly here. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse. Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286,00100-NAIROBI,KE. There's one good kind of writer -- a dead one.=20 -James T. Farrell=20 --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aB0rn7LIsuxjem8RAr6CAKCqhOAVKMQPw0zOakD0oEnWAKVdvQCePvcd +h/o7VUeCktxMNKHL2JY3Kk= =NPH0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 8:28:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shaft.techsupport.co.uk (shaft.techsupport.co.uk [212.250.77.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEF937B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@shaft.techsupport.co.uk) Received: from rasputin by shaft.techsupport.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15Ry1g-000FqX-00; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:35:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:35:12 +0100 From: Rasputin To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article) Message-ID: <20010801163512.A60895@shaft.techsupport.co.uk> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010801140842.A13836@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010801142428.A60605@shaft.techsupport.co.uk> <3B680E06.8090701@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B680E06.8090701@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:11:18AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Antoine Beaupre (LMC) [010801 15:20]: > > > Rasputin wrote: > > * j mckitrick [010801 14:17]: > > > >>In the article in Daemonnews on tuning a BSD box for high performance, there > >>were 2 miscellaneous tweaks mentioned. One was partition layout, and the > >>other was turning on 'noatime' for most of the partitions. > >> > >>What partition layout strategies are suggested for servers? For > >>workstations? > >> > >>I have noatime turned on for my root partition. What other partitions can > >>use this setting for servers? And for workstations? Does it have any > >>downside? > >> > > > > I think 'man tuning' says that noatime can mess up applications > > that use the modification time in their logic. > > (I wouldn't put it on /var, but that's mainly superstition) > > Err... Isn't "atime" -> "access time"?? Yeah, you know what I mean. Anyway, if your apps depend on atime, they can go screwy. > And the tuning(7) manpage on my -stable system doesn't mention this. Then you should cvsup. -- If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 8:29:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bdr-xcon.matchlogic.com (mail.matchlogic.com [205.216.147.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2539C37B405; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:29:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crandall@matchlogic.com) Received: by mail.matchlogic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:29:29 -0600 Message-ID: <5FE9B713CCCDD311A03400508B8B30130828F210@bdr-xcln.corp.matchlogic.com> From: Charles Randall To: 'Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group' , Robert Watson Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt t o edit , inetd.conf Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:27:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI, Starting with RedHat 7.1, they now install a firewall and prompt the user for high/medium/low/none security policies. -Charles -----Original Message----- From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group [mailto:Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:02 AM To: Robert Watson Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG; stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf In message , Robe rt Watson writes: > One of the observations that has been made fairly frequently to me is that > the current default inetd.conf puts many FreeBSD users at risk > unnecessarily, as many of them have moved to using SSH for remote access > needs. In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security > bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more > conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base > install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing. I think that this is goodness. I have been an advocate of this (actually a less balanced approach -- of which I've seen the light and error of my thinking) for a long time. For that matter one of my biggest pet peeves about RH Linux is that by default it installs everything and enables everything. I think that the approach taken here is a balanced approach and is the correct approach. Services are not removed from the system entirely and can be enabled if needed. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD Ministry of Management Services Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 9: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8057A37B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71G1WF94171; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:01:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71G1RH04804; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:01:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108011601.f71G1RH04804@harmony.village.org> To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:04:19 EDT." <3B680C63.8030700@lmc.ericsson.se> References: <3B680C63.8030700@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> <20010801130315.B1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:01:27 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3B680C63.8030700@lmc.ericsson.se> "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" writes: : Shouldn't this mandate a UPDATING entry? Or is it already the case? ;) Hmmmm. I've never seen this. I'll have to investigate because it is a bug if it is. One should *NEVER* have to do what the work around suggests if we've done our job right. I'll go look at the rest of the thread to see what's up. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 9: 8:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A700F37B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01865; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:08:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:08:30 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Bill Fenner Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 41 man pages with 582 lines worth of -mdoc warnings in today's -STABLE man pages Message-ID: <20010801090830.A1855@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200108010730.AAA22319@windsor.research.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108010730.AAA22319@windsor.research.att.com>; from fenner@research.att.com on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:30:06AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:30:06AM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote: > > Actually, it turns out the system I ran that on had some stale man > pages. I cleared out /usr/share/man and built world again, and > there were only a few problems in the base system: Did you try the "-r" option on catman? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 9:13:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (unknown [212.49.74.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31BB37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.31 #5) id 15Ryc8-000Phv-00; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:12:52 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:12:52 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: chromus_@hotmail.com Cc: FBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Mailing List Message-ID: <20010801191252.J48472@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , chromus_@hotmail.com, FBSD-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 7:09PM up 1 day, 3:35, 3 users, load averages: 0.66, 0.35, 0.28 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Daniel Mirchandani, After careful consideration of your application to become a member of the FreeBSD-stable mailing list, we have unanimously and gleefully elected to deny you admission. Our decision was based on a number of factors including, but not limited to, ability to read instructions, attention span, probability of sending questions to the list which are answered in the FAQ, and a careful calculation of your likelihood to be annoying and send time-wasting emails to the list. We recommend instead that you apply to become a member of the OpenBSD mailing lists. The OpenBSD community in general is much more welcoming of newcomers and more tolerant of what some of the tougher-minded of our community might term ' brainless morons.' The notable exception to this rule being, of course, our own Papa Smurf, Greg Lehey, whose patience and gentleness with even the most moronic of questions borders on the angelic. We are sorry to inform you of this decision, but we feel that it is in the best interest of our sanity to deny your admission. ps: The cat is away on holiday, so you know what goes on, right?! -Wash Tea Boy -- Odhiambo Washington +++++ For every problem there is a simple solution, and it's always wrong. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 9:26:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4E037B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:26:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119C64CEBB; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21532; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:26:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id JAA28304; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108011626.JAA28304@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: chad@dcfinc.com Subject: Re: 41 man pages with 582 lines worth of -mdoc warnings in today's -STABLE man pages Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200108010730.AAA22319@windsor.research.att.com> <20010801090830.A1855@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:26:14 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2j/makemail 2.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Did you try the "-r" option on catman? Well, I had done a "find /usr/share/man/cat* -type f | xargs rm" beforehand, so I don't think "-r" would have done much. The extra junk was in /usr/share/man/man* -- this system has been incrementally upgraded from an initial 4.2 install that included kerberos, but I'm not building kerberos so all the kerberos man pages were stale, plus any other man pages that have been removed from the system since 4.2... Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 9:31:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F0C37B406 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:31:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71GVZa05640 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: 4.x-stable build report for Wed Aug 1 03:24:16 CDT 2001 X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Wed_Aug__1_09:31:34_2001_809)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801093135B.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:31:35 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 143 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Wed_Aug__1_09:31:34_2001_809)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, it's broken again. ----Next_Part(Wed_Aug__1_09:31:34_2001_809)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Return-Path: Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71Ba8a03832 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@usw3.freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380385675C for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:10:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@usw3.freebsd.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 214C137B406; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: jkh@freebsd.org Received: from usw3.freebsd.org (usw3.freebsd.org [209.180.6.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA30E37B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@usw3.freebsd.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by usw3.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f71BEih77387 for build-reports@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:14:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from root) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 06:14:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200108011114.f71BEih77387@usw3.freebsd.org> To: build-reports@freebsd.org Subject: 4.x-stable build report for Wed Aug 1 03:24:16 CDT 2001 MIME-Version: 1.0 Doing nightly build attempt for 4.3-20010801-STABLE at Wed Aug 1 03:24:16 CDT 2001 Updating source tree... Making release... Release build of 4.3-20010801-STABLE was an abject failure. ===> sbin/atm ===> sbin/atm/atm install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 atm /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 atm.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/atm/fore_dnld install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 fore_dnld /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 fore_dnld.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/atm/ilmid install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ilmid /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ilmid.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/badsect install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 badsect /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 badsect.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/camcontrol install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 camcontrol /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 camcontrol.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/ccdconfig install -c -s -o root -g kmem -m 2555 ccdconfig /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ccdconfig.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/clri install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 clri /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 clri.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/comcontrol install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 comcontrol /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 comcontrol.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/dhclient install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/src/sbin/dhclient/../../contrib/isc-dhcp/client/scripts/freebsd /sbin/dhclient-script install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 dhclient /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dhclient.conf.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dhclient.leases.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dhcp-options.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dhclient.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dhclient-script.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/disklabel install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 disklabel /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 disklabel.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 disklabel.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/dmesg install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 dmesg /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dmesg.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/dump install -c -s -o root -g tty -m 2555 dump /sbin /sbin/rdump -> /sbin/dump install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dump.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 /usr/share/man/man8/rdump.8.gz -> /usr/share/man/man8/dump.8.gz ===> sbin/dumpfs install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 dumpfs /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dumpfs.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/dumpon install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 dumpon /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 dumpon.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/ffsinfo install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ffsinfo /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ffsinfo.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/fsck install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 fsck /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 fsck.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/fsck_msdosfs install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 fsck_msdosfs /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 fsck_msdosfs.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/fsdb install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 fsdb /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 fsdb.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/fsirand install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 fsirand /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 fsirand.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/growfs install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 growfs /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 growfs.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/ifconfig install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ifconfig /sbin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ifconfig.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> sbin/init install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin install: illegal option -- b usage: install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-CcDpsv] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** Error code 64 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/init. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. ----Next_Part(Wed_Aug__1_09:31:34_2001_809)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 9:35:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F23D37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71GYea05657; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: beyssac@enst.fr Cc: anders@codefactory.se, obrien@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld broken In-Reply-To: <20010801152758.A964@bofh.enst.fr> References: <20010801124323.A1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> <20010801152758.A964@bofh.enst.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801093440W.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:34:40 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 31 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, because that will break make release which doesn't do anything like this "by hand" and never will. This needs to be fixed properly or backed out. Thanks! - Jordan From: Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld broken Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:27:58 +0200 > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:43:23PM +0200, Anders Andersson wrote: > > Just cvsup'd and built world, > > > > make installworld... > > > > ===> sbin/init > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 500 -fschg -b -B.bak init /sbin > > Install the new "install" by hand, that does it. > > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall > make install > mv /usr/bin/install /usr/bin/install.old > mv /usr/bin/xinstall /usr/bin/install > > Then try installworld again. > -- > Pierre Beyssac pb@enst.fr > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 9:50:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EED37B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71GlKp86243; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:47:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:45:59 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Anders Andersson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld broken Message-ID: <20010801094559.C86034@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20010801124323.A1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010801124323.A1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se>; from anders@codefactory.se on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:43:23PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:43:23PM +0200, Anders Andersson wrote: > Just cvsup'd and built world, > > make installworld... > > ===> sbin/init Perhaps you missed my "HEADS UP". Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:07:31 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ** HEADS UP ** RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this coming week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few days. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) We are in the peroid right before the code freeze, and frankly I was dead tired and had to stop with my MFC sweep for a short nights sleep. I would really recommend not CVSup'ing until Friday. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 10:56: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magellan.palisadesys.com (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4524D37B406; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from mira (mira.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.116]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by magellan.palisadesys.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71Htv230493 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:55:57 -0500 From: "Guy Helmer" To: Cc: Subject: rmuser broken in -current since 2001/07/25 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:57:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG usr.sbin/adduser/rmuser.perl has been broken since revision 1.18 on 2001/07/25. rev 1.21 (committed 2001/08/01) brought it back to life. rmuser is similiarly broken in -stable and will be fixed after I get the go-ahead from the release engineer. Guy Guy Helmer, Ph.D. Sr. Software Engineer, Palisade Systems ghelmer@palisadesys.com http://www.palisadesys.com/~ghelmer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 11:36:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aussie.org (hallam.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.54.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C24737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlnn4@oaks.com.au) Received: from dualp2 (dualp2 [203.29.75.73]) by aussie.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with SMTP id f71IaFZ01795 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 04:36:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mlnn4@oaks.com.au) Message-Id: <200108011836.f71IaFZ01795@aussie.org> From: "Chris" To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 04:34:29 +1000 Reply-To: "Chris" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2195;2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kernel upgrade causing truncated IPSEC packets [followup] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a followup to a message I posted in -net on the 29th of July. I'm hoping that someone will at least be able to confirm that they also see the problem. As a quick summary, when I upgraded a few boxes to a recent kernel (their old ones were from mid-April), our IPSEC VPN took a dive, and I'm trying to find out why. I see the below problem on multiple machines. The actual cause seems to be that the IPSEC-encapsulated packets are being truncated before they get to the PPP process, even though tcpdump and netstat on the tunnel device indicate that the full packet is being passed through. Additionally, I have now noticed that the truncation will happen even in transport mode, if the outgoing packets are large enough (I originally thought it was confined to tunnel mode). For example, if I ping a remote address with which I have a transport mode session established using a payload of 204 bytes, I get a reply. If I ping it with a payload of 205 bytes or more, the truncation occurs and I do not get a reply. You can see this clearly in the below output which is obtained from the PPP process by using the 'set log local Async' option. Result of 'ping -s 204 -c 1 210.XXX.XXX.XXX' Async: Write Async: 7e 21 45 00 01 20 0b 88 00 00 40 33 XX ee d1 XX Async: XX XX d2 XX XX XX 32 04 00 00 08 de 67 5e 00 00 Async: 00 20 67 8e 44 39 6a 40 92 47 bf 62 c3 4f 0f 88 Async: f7 1b 00 00 00 20 a1 b4 83 d6 1b b3 ac 60 27 65 Async: 3d 3a c3 af 80 5a 54 e0 1c 7d 5d 37 aa f0 ec 9c Async: 0f 9f e5 02 0a 8b 39 05 ea 8a 7d 5e 90 ca 50 60 Async: a5 80 a4 e2 85 f6 9a a0 47 32 19 c1 46 f7 f0 46 Async: 8f 10 3a 49 dd 4d 21 32 61 7b 35 03 ee 71 68 75 Async: 26 7a fd 18 d6 4e 1b 34 85 f9 bd 53 00 a2 8c ed Async: 3a 6e 8e 98 96 7d 33 39 37 06 5a 7b 9a a6 32 23 Async: ca f6 53 2c 56 f1 f3 43 02 43 2f 83 8a a1 b7 46 Async: 4d 71 db 7d 5d a8 97 db 9f aa 8c 72 10 eb 58 77 Async: eb 4b 1f d2 a4 88 f9 77 e5 7a 3b 95 00 70 f2 7d Async: 5d ee 79 69 14 eb 78 ff ae 4f c4 b4 d7 b8 6e 65 Async: 0d a6 0c 4a 1e 2b b4 b3 56 76 b1 28 82 de 6d c5 Async: 7f 1f 3c 43 58 58 e3 6b 90 c0 e2 6e 86 6b 61 b6 Async: 7a 93 8b d6 81 ff 60 fc 23 2a a0 c1 74 b2 a7 21 Async: fd c8 50 c0 4a 47 9f 2c cc 41 f0 95 a2 90 ca 7c Async: 98 51 70 c7 e4 19 7a 43 9e 7e Async: Read Async: 7e 21 45 00 01 20 c1 57 00 00 3b 33 XX 1e d2 XX Async: XX XX d1 XX XX XX 32 04 00 00 09 4b e8 da 00 00 Async: 00 16 7d 5d 5c 3d 9f f4 1a 23 28 73 53 f6 55 06 [rest of reply snipped] As you can see, the entire packet went out and I got a reply. The IP header indicates that the proper packet length is 0x120 (288) bytes, and 298 were sent (the rest being PPP overhead). Result of 'ping -s 205 -c 1 210.XXX.XXX.XXX' Async: Write Async: 7e 21 45 00 01 20 0b d9 00 00 40 33 XX 9d d1 XX Async: XX XX d2 XX XX XX 32 04 00 00 08 de 67 5e 00 00 Async: 00 21 62 8e 15 84 58 c8 4f 64 8e f4 d2 b2 0f 88 Async: f7 1b 00 00 00 21 60 2c ea 2a a2 68 07 74 01 23 Async: 7e [This is all that there was] By adding one byte to the size of the output packet, the IPSEC transport session now fails, with the above packet being truncated. I cannot get a sucessful transmission of any larger packet, either. As you can see from the above IP header, 0x0120 bytes should have been in the packet (identi- cal to the previous sucessful example due to padding within the IPSEC code) but only 65 were sent. Both tcpdump on tun0 and 'netstat -bI tun0' indicate that as far as the kernel is concerned, the full packet went out, even though it did not. FWIW here's the more verbose debug output for the second instance above - tun0: TCP/IP: OUT AH: 209.XXX.XXX.XXX ---> 210.XXX.XXX.XXX, spi 0xbfbff170 tun0: Debug: m_enqueue: len = 1 tun0: Debug: m_dequeue: queue len = 1 tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0x0021 tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output tun0: HDLC: 21 45 00 01 20 1c 8b 00 00 40 33 XX eb d1 XX XX tun0: HDLC: XX d2 XX XX XX 32 04 00 00 09 c5 50 46 00 00 00 tun0: HDLC: 07 30 c8 2d d4 51 83 bb 6e ee e3 d5 f3 07 0c 2b tun0: HDLC: 1f 00 00 00 07 b3 7f 42 e4 74 cd db c9 98 ca tun0: Async: Write tun0: Async: 7e 21 45 00 01 20 1c 8b 00 00 40 33 XX eb d1 XX tun0: Async: XX XX d2 08 a2 04 32 04 00 00 09 c5 50 46 00 00 tun0: Async: 00 07 30 c8 2d d4 51 83 bb 6e ee e3 d5 f3 07 0c tun0: Async: 2b 1f 00 00 00 07 b3 7f 42 e4 74 cd db c9 98 ca tun0: Async: 7e tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0x0021 tun0: Debug: m_enqueue: len = 1 tun0: Debug: m_dequeue: queue len = 1 tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 0, containing 0 more packets tun0: Physical: write tun0: Physical: 7e 21 45 00 01 20 1c 8b 00 00 40 33 XX eb d1 XX tun0: Physical: XX XX d2 XX XX XX 32 04 00 00 09 c5 50 46 00 00 tun0: Physical: 00 07 30 c8 2d d4 51 83 bb 6e ee e3 d5 f3 07 0c tun0: Physical: 2b 1f 00 00 00 07 b3 7f 42 e4 74 cd db c9 98 ca tun0: Physical: 7e tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 65(65) to 2 Which shows that as far as the PPP process is concerned, there were only 65 bytes to write (including PPP overhead), despite the kernel thinking otherwise. I am running the most recent PPP and a 4.3-STABLE kernel that was cvsupped on the 17th of July. A kernel built today shows basically identical behaviour. Several of the machines on the VPN do not use modems and are unaffected by the problem. Can anyone confirm my findings or offer suggestions ? ---------------------------- Topology (IP's are illustrative) - o Local LAN has machine 'A' at 10.0.58.2/24 o A's default gateway is the FBSD box 'B' at 10.0.58.1/24 o B is dialled up using ppp to routable address 1.2.3.4 o Central gateway 'C' is on the net at 5.6.7.8 o C has an interface hosting a local LAN at 10.0.48.1/24 I use IPSEC AH/ESP transport mode between 'B' and 'C', and have set up a native IPSEC tunnel (not using gif) between 10.0.58.0/24 and 10.0.48.0/24. This has been in place and working for a good part of a year. Since I put in the new kernel, the tunnel between A and C fails completely, and the tunnel and transport mode between B and C is intermittent (depending on the size of the packets). Swapping back to the April kernel made the problem go away so I do not expect the problem is in the PPP process per se. -- Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 12: 7: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id A033937B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:06:56 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: Tony Maher Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Message-ID: <20010801120655.A10275@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU>; from tonym@angis.org.au on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:01:12PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:01:12PM +1000, Tony Maher wrote: > Just did buldworld, kernel, installworld cycle but there was one small > problem in installworld Perhaps you missed my "HEADS UP". Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:07:31 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ** HEADS UP ** RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this coming week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few days. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) We are in the peroid right before the code freeze, and frankly I was dead tired and had to stop with my MFC sweep for a short nights sleep. I would really recommend not CVSup'ing until Friday. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 12:11:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id B014C37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:11:28 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: Robert Watson Cc: Nate Williams , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf) Message-ID: <20010801121128.B10275@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <15207.35178.61523.131897@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:08:29AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:08:29AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > I'd be tempted to disable the portmapper (rpcbind in -CURRENT) by default, > allowing it to either be manually enabled, or enabled by virtue of > dependencies (something we already support). It already is disabled in -current since 2000-07-28 22:45:36 portmap_enable="NO" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 12:23:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aeon.invision.net (aeon.invision.net [206.112.34.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD92737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martini@invision.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aeon.invision.net (8.11.4/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f71JNO789502 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:23:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from martini@invision.net) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:23:23 -0400 (EST) From: Matt Martini Reply-To: "Matthew E. Martini" To: Subject: Can't turn off IPV6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On July 24, I CVS'd RELENG_4 in anticipation of upgrading from 4.2. Make buildworld works fine, however my make buildkernel keeps failing. I don't need/want IPV6 support in my production servers. But if I comment out the options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols line in my KERNCONF, my buildworld fails at ===> ipfilter make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Is this a bug or feature? How do I work around it? Matt __________________________ http://www.invision.net/ _______________________ Matthew E. Martini, PE InVision.com, Inc. (631) 543-1000 x104 Chief Technology Officer matt@invision.net (631) 864-8896 Fax _______________________________________________________________________pgp_ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQEVAwUBO2hXK2tXn16/JS7ZAQHo2Af9HjCaOjVCekvNrZOfUa7tFfZCVKSyG93F QshkHf2sRQbc02spCTHN5J6yt7qOWsfZ8T4POuG9cWh0NoXCHF207YdP10hWjbX9 hk6qY4SuAGDqcGpmhUv5I021/5+A7qY/Eih35WpXzhrpW2Nk/Fi5hVI28i3tznA/ DRlhHyyn8tLuAaYNJnHVc3YOQ/fYb/X1gVAgk9zQY/FT4ECmH4yxoOW1K7OppDhG qXzF9D3sbxUSee8MZ63hoboYlifiN3+a+vdFZItiGZqadswGDYuFV/t4r1sFKUB7 fZgOD3UFTirNV5gKzLTZ8NjzhseFjRU4JDcXqpjmx6HKoZNTmtsXxQ== =2vFL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 12:25:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camelot.bitart.com (BITart-45.BITart.com [206.103.221.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 824FC37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:25:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gerti@bitart.com) Received: (qmail 28123 invoked by uid 101); 1 Aug 2001 19:25:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20010801192506.28122.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Gerd Knops Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:25:06 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Beware of WindRiver Systems! Reply-To: gerti-freebsdq@BITart.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Everyone, Contrary to Jordan's comments it seems the WindRiver screw ups continue. A few weeks ago I received EMail telling me my credit card was invalid, and they could not ship my subscription. So I go to the indicated web page and update the credit card info (Visa had issued a new card as a precaution after a database of an E-Business was hijacked). A few days later I get the same EMail again, and I go through that procedure once more. Another few days go by, and the same EMail again. This time I call them. An obviously annoyed lady tells me she can't really do anything about it, doesn't care that the web page doesn't work, and says I should send EMail. Which I did, explaining the whole thing (no response). A few days later the 4.3 CDs finally arrive, weeks later than they should have. Yet a few days later I receive snail mail complaining my credit card info is invalid. Since I already invested half an hour to try and fix up their problems, I ignore it. A few days later my credit card invoice arrives, and I got charged TWICE by WindRiver. Needless to say, phone calls go the way of /dev/null. I'd strongly recommend that anyone thinks twice before doing business with WindRiver Systems. A search through he archives will show I am not the only one who has troubles with them. Regards Gerd Knops To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 12:26:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.netcom.com (freebsd.netcom.com [199.174.33.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EF037B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugs@freebsd.netcom.com) Received: (from bugs@localhost) by freebsd.netcom.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id OAA23607 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:26:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Hittinger Message-Id: <200108011926.OAA23607@freebsd.netcom.com> Subject: stable trick today To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:26:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today's make installworld stopped in ./sbin/init because of a new flag for install I guess. Go into ./usr.bin/xinstall and do a make install of the new install binary first. FYI. Later Mark Hittinger Earthlink bugs@freebsd.netcom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 12:52:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns-exch05.jccc.net (ns-exch05.jccc.net [198.248.56.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4361E37B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:52:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndunker@jccc.net) Received: by ns-exch05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3MZQR2QL>; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:51:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Noah Dunker To: "'gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Beware of WindRiver Systems! Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:51:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Now I'm REALLY glad I waited to buy 4.3 in person from DefCon 9. Nothing safer than a 'cat /dev/wallet | grep $price > real-person; mv 4.3-RELEASE Laptop-Case' transaction. :) I really hope they resolve everyone's problems. You're probably getting the cold shoulder from them because there are many others like you with similar problems. Noah Dunker Systems Analyst/Technician Johnson County Community College -----Original Message----- From: Gerd Knops [mailto:gerti@bitart.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:25 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Beware of WindRiver Systems! Hi Everyone, Contrary to Jordan's comments it seems the WindRiver screw ups continue. A few weeks ago I received EMail telling me my credit card was invalid, and they could not ship my subscription. So I go to the indicated web page and update the credit card info (Visa had issued a new card as a precaution after a database of an E-Business was hijacked). A few days later I get the same EMail again, and I go through that procedure once more. Another few days go by, and the same EMail again. This time I call them. An obviously annoyed lady tells me she can't really do anything about it, doesn't care that the web page doesn't work, and says I should send EMail. Which I did, explaining the whole thing (no response). A few days later the 4.3 CDs finally arrive, weeks later than they should have. Yet a few days later I receive snail mail complaining my credit card info is invalid. Since I already invested half an hour to try and fix up their problems, I ignore it. A few days later my credit card invoice arrives, and I got charged TWICE by WindRiver. Needless to say, phone calls go the way of /dev/null. I'd strongly recommend that anyone thinks twice before doing business with WindRiver Systems. A search through he archives will show I am not the only one who has troubles with them. Regards Gerd Knops To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:13:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB4937B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71KDTa07097; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: tonym@angis.org.au, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) In-Reply-To: <20010801120655.A10275@hub.freebsd.org> References: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> <20010801120655.A10275@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801131329J.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:13:29 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 43 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hope you don't mean to suggest that build failures in -stable are now tolerated since they're most certainly not. The stable.freebsd.org snapshot machine is now more valuable than ever as we enter our code slush, and anything which breaks its snapshots will merit a "HEADS UP" followed by a blow to the appropriate head(s) with my release engineering cluebat (which is 11 feet long and studded with 6 inch rusty iron spikes!). From now until release, extra testing, not less, is very much required. Thanks! - Jordan From: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:06:56 -0700 > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:01:12PM +1000, Tony Maher wrote: > > Just did buldworld, kernel, installworld cycle but there was one small > > problem in installworld > > Perhaps you missed my "HEADS UP". > > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:07:31 -0700 > From: David O'Brien > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: ** HEADS UP ** > > RELENG_4 (4-stable) goes into code freeze on Wednesday, August 1st. > Typically there has been a flurry of MFC's just before a code freeze. > > This is just a "HEADS UP", that RELENG_4 may be in flux over this coming > week; and users may want to consider not CVSup'ing RELENG_4 for a few > days. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > We are in the peroid right before the code freeze, and frankly I was dead > tired and had to stop with my MFC sweep for a short nights sleep. I > would really recommend not CVSup'ing until Friday. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:15:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (unknown [209.175.240.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1C937B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:15:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Received: from dougs_laptop (dougs_laptop [209.175.240.20]) by mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07091 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Message-ID: <200108011520450830.01B27220@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.01.02 (1) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:20:45 -0500 From: "Douglas G. Allen" To: "FreeBSD Stable Listserv" Subject: printcap question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In conjunction with my question in the hardware list about printer= compatibility, I'm wondering if I've missed something somewhere in the= documentation. Is there a setting that can go into the printcap entry for= a printer that will allow you to print to a printer with a network card= (EIO Card for HP printers) installed in it? I looked, but I didn't see= anything that looked like it would be exactly what I was looking to do. Example: I have several HP printers with EIO cards in them. Each of them= is set to a distinct IP address (a.b.c.d), with a mask (e.f.g.h), in the= printer configuration. For the Windows printers, you create the IP port,= assign the printer to it, then print to the IP address. I'd like to do= something similar with a printcap entry and lpd and it would open up the= number of printers one can easily use greatly. Thanks in advance for any information. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:18:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC9237B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f71KIOW07131; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:18:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108012018.f71KIOW07131@winston.freebsd.org> From: Jordan Hubbard To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: developers@freebsd.org Subject: REMINDER: We are now in code slush for 4.3-stable! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This means that all changes MUST be approved by re@freebsd.org before they are checked into the -stable branch. This alias is provided for your convenience so that Murray Stokely, the "deputy release engineer", will get proper notification of requests while I'm on vacation from August 4th through August 18th. Otherwise, expect a message from me either approving or disapproving a change within 24 hours (and usually much faster) of your request. Any questions about packages, the ports collection or general release building as it pertains to the -stable branch should still be sent to releng@freebsd.org during this period so that all the relevant port/package meisters can respond. Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:20:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1CE37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@eboa.com) Received: from eboa.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71KKOC31417; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:20:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@eboa.com) Message-ID: <3B686488.6FF5FCFE@eboa.com> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:20:24 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eBOA - Programming the Web X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evan Oldford Cc: Kashyap Kumar , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Log question! References: <3B673784.11969509@whistle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Evan Oldford wrote: > > Kashyap Kumar wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Can anybody help me to rotate my apache logs in /var/log directory. How can > > I do that with syslog? > > > > help very much appriciated > > > > /mn > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/rotatelogs.php has a great example... Take a look at .../ports/sysutils/cronolog, does a nice job although it keeps a lot of processes around. Roelof -- _______________________________________________________________________ eBOA® est. 1982 http://eBOA.com/ tel. +31-58-2123014 mailto:info@eBOA.com?subject=Information_request fax. +31-58-2160293 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:24:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from terminus.rootprompt.net (ci933622-a.ruthfd1.tn.home.com [24.252.218.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9177437B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@rootprompt.net) Received: from recon (recon.rootprompt.net [192.168.1.2]) by terminus.rootprompt.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 957E3F805; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:24:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert Banniza" To: "Roelof Osinga" , "Evan Oldford" Cc: "Kashyap Kumar" , Subject: RE: Apache Log question! Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:26:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3B686488.6FF5FCFE@eboa.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use the following script within cron to get it done: ##################### BEGIN SCRIPT ######################## #!/bin/sh # rotates webserver log files DATE=`/bin/date +%m%d%Y_%H%M%S` BASE_DIR='/var/log' LOGS='httpd-access.log httpd-error.log' for i in $LOGS; do if [ -f $BASE_DIR/$i ]; then /bin/cp $BASE_DIR/$i $BASE_DIR/$i.$DATE > $BASE_DIR/$i /usr/bin/gzip $BASE_DIR/$i.$DATE fi # search and delete older logs /usr/bin/find $BASE_DIR -name $i.* -a -mtime +30 -exec rm {} \; done ##################### END SCRIPT ######################## Robert -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Roelof Osinga Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:20 PM To: Evan Oldford Cc: Kashyap Kumar; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Log question! Evan Oldford wrote: > > Kashyap Kumar wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Can anybody help me to rotate my apache logs in /var/log directory. How can > > I do that with syslog? > > > > help very much appriciated > > > > /mn > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/rotatelogs.php has a great example... Take a look at .../ports/sysutils/cronolog, does a nice job although it keeps a lot of processes around. Roelof -- _______________________________________________________________________ eBOA® est. 1982 http://eBOA.com/ tel. +31-58-2123014 mailto:info@eBOA.com?subject=Information_request fax. +31-58-2160293 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:25: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-26-223-53.mmcable.com [65.26.223.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE09C37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikea@mikea.ath.cx) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71KOvI93247 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:24:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:24:57 -0500 From: mikea To: FreeBSD Stable Listserv Subject: Re: printcap question Message-ID: <20010801152457.A93179@mikea.ath.cx> References: <200108011520450830.01B27220@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200108011520450830.01B27220@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us>; from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 03:20:45PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 03:20:45PM -0500, Douglas G. Allen wrote: > In conjunction with my question in the hardware list about printer compatibility, I'm wondering if I've missed something somewhere in the documentation. Is there a setting that can go into the printcap entry for a printer that will allow you to print to a printer with a network card (EIO Card for HP printers) installed in it? I looked, but I didn't see anything that looked like it would be exactly what I was looking to do. > > Example: I have several HP printers with EIO cards in them. Each of them is set to a distinct IP address (a.b.c.d), with a mask (e.f.g.h), in the printer configuration. For the Windows printers, you create the IP port, assign the printer to it, then print to the IP address. I'd like to do something similar with a printcap entry and lpd and it would open up the number of printers one can easily use greatly. Thanks in advance for any information. Here's the entry for my networked printer, a Brother HL-1270N, from my /etc/printcap: # lp|printer line printer:\ :sh:\ :mx#0:\ :rm=lp:\ :rp=text:sd=/var/spool/output/lp:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: # You have to be _sure_ that the queuename ("text" in my case) is specified correctly, since prniting to a queue not known to the printer means that the output will never print. Would you mind hitting the key about every 60 characters or so, from now on? The very long lines don't wrap in my news- reader, and it's painful to shift the window to the right to see the tail end of a line, then all the way over for the start of another. Good luck with the printers! -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:25:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (unknown [209.175.240.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A485437B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Received: from dougs_laptop (dougs_laptop [209.175.240.20]) by mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07214; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:29:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Message-ID: <200108011530290810.01BB5B4C@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> In-Reply-To: <200108012017.f71KHwT24328@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <200108012017.f71KHwT24328@bunrab.catwhisker.org> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.01.02 (1) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:30:29 -0500 From: "Douglas G. Allen" To: "David Wolfskill" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable Listserv" Subject: Re: printcap question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David, >You treat such a printer as merely an instance of a "remote printer" -- >that is, a printer attached to some other machine. In this case, the >"other machine" is the printer itself. Do I use the IP address as the machine name of the printer or just add= another entry for local machines with an IP number after it? Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:26:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B419B37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:26:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71KOhZ11413; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:24:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:23:22 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: tonym@angis.org.au, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Message-ID: <20010801132322.A11318@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> <20010801120655.A10275@hub.freebsd.org> <20010801131329J.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010801131329J.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@freebsd.org on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:13:29PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:13:29PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I hope you don't mean to suggest that build failures in -stable are > now tolerated since they're most certainly not. Not in the least. Rather that the code base right now is quickly changing due to the code freeze today[*]; and that during times of such quick changes it is hard to `cvs up' at just the right moment to get a consistent world. Thus it will be much easier for people to build a release (which of course implies full world), after the dust settles. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) [*] of those I've talked to, we are assuming a freeze time today of 8pm based on past experience. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:28:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from copper.eng.cstone.net (copper.eng.cstone.net [209.145.66.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8112237B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from josepht@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by copper.eng.cstone.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71KSW901056; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:28:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from josepht@cstone.net) Message-ID: <3B686670.FFEA83F9@cstone.net> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:28:32 -0400 From: Joe Talbott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Douglas G. Allen" Cc: FreeBSD Stable Listserv Subject: Re: printcap question References: <200108012017.f71KHwT24328@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200108011530290810.01BB5B4C@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Douglas G. Allen" wrote: > > Do I use the IP address as the machine name of the printer or just add another entry for local machines with an IP number after it? > something like: ... :rm:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:\ ... Joe -- J o e T a l b o t t | I choose to believe OSS Engineer - Cornerstone Networks | what I was programmed An Ntelos Communications Company | to believe. sysadmin@cstone.net - 804-817-7000 | -Futurama To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:29:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from copper.eng.cstone.net (copper.eng.cstone.net [209.145.66.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF6637B407 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from josepht@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by copper.eng.cstone.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71KTk901070; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:29:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from josepht@cstone.net) Message-ID: <3B6866BA.E2D238B2@cstone.net> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:29:46 -0400 From: Joe Talbott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Douglas G. Allen" , FreeBSD Stable Listserv Subject: Re: printcap question References: <200108012017.f71KHwT24328@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200108011530290810.01BB5B4C@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> <3B686670.FFEA83F9@cstone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Talbott wrote: > > "Douglas G. Allen" wrote: > > > > Do I use the IP address as the machine name of the printer or just add another entry for local machines with an IP number after it? > > > > something like: > > ... > :rm:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:\ ^ should have been an '=', sorry Joe -- J o e T a l b o t t | I choose to believe OSS Engineer - Cornerstone Networks | what I was programmed An Ntelos Communications Company | to believe. sysadmin@cstone.net - 804-817-7000 | -Futurama To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:32:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com (mail.san.yahoo.com [209.132.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6168637B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from yahoo-inc.com (209.132.9.120) by mail.san.yahoo.com (5.5.039.2) id 3B5F15F2001CB9CC; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:31:00 -0700 Message-ID: <3B686738.C22A68DC@yahoo-inc.com> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:31:52 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://san.yahoo.com/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Gerard Samuel , Jonathan Belson , stable Subject: Re: [Q] Mergemaster problem References: <200107142349.f6ENnaA02976@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:10:51 -0400 > > From: Gerard Samuel > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Same prob here. I had a couple boxes to upgrade so what I did was when > > time to to mergemaster > > I reboot the box and do it after the reboot. There had to be something > > wrong with a previous > > -stable. I finally MFC'ed this on 7/16, FYI. Sorry for the confusion, Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough. Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:38: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AE237B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71Kbla07289; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com, gerti@bitart.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! In-Reply-To: <20010801192506.28122.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> References: <20010801192506.28122.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801133747G.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:37:47 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 74 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Erm, I'm sorry, but I don't quite see how this is "contrary" to my comments. All I said, and more than a few people at WRS were angry with me for even being that blunt, was that the committer subscriptions were in limbo and that it was NOT CLEAR whether or not they would continue, my guess (and it was only a guess) being that the freebies were probably history. If you're referring to earlier comments I made saying that WRS was aware that there were problems in fulfillment and that there was strong desire on some people's parts there to fix those problems, then that was certainly the case at the time and is probably still the case now. That doesn't mean, of course, that the problems WILL be fixed and I don't think that I ever implied such a thing, I merely said that there were people who WANTED to fix them and understood that things weren't really the best they could be right now. Even though I no longer work for Wind River systems, I still think that's the case and no company as large as they are ever have just "one opinion" about something. It's more a question of whether or not the people who are working for improvements have the support and capability to bring them about. If you somehow read into all that a declaration by me that things were great at WRS and you'd never have another problem again, then I can only suggest that we're having language problems or something because that's not what I said at all. In any case, I no longer have any sort of vested interest in the proceedings of this and WRS probably has bigger problems to worry about right now if you've read any of the latest press releases, so why don't we all just wait and see what happens? In the meantime I would certainly expect everyone to continue to vote with their wallets and reward whomever does the best job of fulfilling FreeBSD customer expectations, be they WindRiver or some other company. - Jordan From: Gerd Knops Subject: Beware of WindRiver Systems! Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:25:06 -0500 > Hi Everyone, > > Contrary to Jordan's comments it seems the WindRiver screw ups > continue. A few weeks ago I received EMail telling me my credit card > was invalid, and they could not ship my subscription. So I go to the > indicated web page and update the credit card info (Visa had issued a > new card as a precaution after a database of an E-Business was > hijacked). A few days later I get the same EMail again, and I go > through that procedure once more. > > Another few days go by, and the same EMail again. This time I call > them. An obviously annoyed lady tells me she can't really do anything > about it, doesn't care that the web page doesn't work, and says I > should send EMail. Which I did, explaining the whole thing (no > response). > > A few days later the 4.3 CDs finally arrive, weeks later than they > should have. > > Yet a few days later I receive snail mail complaining my credit card > info is invalid. Since I already invested half an hour to try and fix > up their problems, I ignore it. A few days later my credit card invoice > arrives, and I got charged TWICE by WindRiver. Needless to say, phone > calls go the way of /dev/null. > > I'd strongly recommend that anyone thinks twice before doing business > with WindRiver Systems. A search through he archives will show I am not > the only one who has troubles with them. > > Regards > > Gerd Knops > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:38:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAAB37B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71KcMa07296; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable trick today In-Reply-To: <200108011926.OAA23607@freebsd.netcom.com> References: <200108011926.OAA23607@freebsd.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801133822I.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:38:22 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If this isn't fixed by the evening, I will back it out since we're in code slush now. - Jordan From: Mark Hittinger Subject: stable trick today Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:26:17 -0500 (CDT) > > Today's make installworld stopped in ./sbin/init because of a new flag for > install I guess. Go into ./usr.bin/xinstall and do a make install of the > new install binary first. FYI. > > Later > > Mark Hittinger > Earthlink > bugs@freebsd.netcom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:45:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BCD37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/20010730/$Revision: 1.25 $) with ESMTP id f71Kjf8H017999 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:45:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) id f71Kjf91017998 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:45:41 GMT Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:45:40 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: CPUTYPE and Cross Builds Message-ID: <20010801154540.A17831@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gentlepeople, Back during the 4.3 release cycle I pointed out that CPUTYPE=i486 builds on a CPUTYPE=P3 world BROKE. Kris Kennaway said it would be fixed after 4.3 RELEASE. I haven't seen a commit that looks like it fixed it. What is the status? Larry Rosenman -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:56:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (unknown [209.175.240.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E0237B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Received: from dougs_laptop (dougs_laptop [209.175.240.20]) by mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07516; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:00:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Message-ID: <200108011602200247.01D881F1@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> In-Reply-To: <200108012040.f71Ket224506@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <200108012040.f71Ket224506@bunrab.catwhisker.org> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.01.02 (1) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:02:20 -0500 From: "Douglas G. Allen" To: "David Wolfskill" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable Listserv" Subject: Re: printcap question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David, >Yes. The bare IP address might work, but as noted, I don't do that. I have people telling me it should, but it's not any real problem to make another entry in /etc/hosts to cover myself (and the printer). >Or you can think of the networked printer as being an incredibly simple >"host" that has a fancy printer attached. :-} True. >(Fair warning: I suspect that HP's implementation of lpd leaves a lot >to be desired, such as the ability to queue requests.) But if they say a printer is lpd compatible, then I would at least expect it to understand the information sent to it by lpd. My guess is that it won't queue requests, unless it has a drive of some sort in it, other than on the machine that asks for the print job. Very much like a Windoze client does with the same printer(s). Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 13:58: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C2B37B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:58:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id uegcaaaa for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:57:21 +1000 Message-ID: <3B686E11.7F68E209@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:01:05 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hayden Katzenellenbogen Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extra Line in my inetd.conf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote: > > I have noticed this line at the bottom of some of my inetd.conf files on a > few of my machines.. it is though not commented out I have commented it out > as well I have no idea what it does... > > any one care to shed some light on this? > > #dlip stream tcp nowait root /bin/sh sh -i Looks like someone hacked your box... dlip, whatever it is sure as hell isnt meant to open an interactive shell with root as the root user!!! You should log connection attempts on port 7201 and see who tries to access it... Also check your /etc/services file to make sure they havent changed the dlip port to something else... If this is on a few of your machines it looks like your whole network is probably breached... You have tripwire installed? Now its time to check your binarys and see what else is changed... Really the only way to be sure is to format and reinstall... Who knows what other back doors they have had time to put in place! And your firewall should really be blocking that port anyway... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BD137B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f71L03s21985 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:00:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01554 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:00:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 7521 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Aug 2001 20:59:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:59:05 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stable trick today Message-ID: <20010801225905.A7500@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Jordan Hubbard , bugs@freebsd.netcom.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200108011926.OAA23607@freebsd.netcom.com> <20010801133822I.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010801133822I.jkh@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:38:22PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > If this isn't fixed by the evening, I will back it out since we're in > code slush now. > > - Jordan > > From: Mark Hittinger > Subject: stable trick today > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:26:17 -0500 (CDT) > > > > > Today's make installworld stopped in ./sbin/init because of a new flag for > > install I guess. Go into ./usr.bin/xinstall and do a make install of the > > new install binary first. FYI. > > This commit that went in earlier today suggests that it has been fixed by now. sheldonh 2001/08/01 07:28:41 PDT Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) . Makefile.inc1 Log: MFC rev 1.202: add install to the bootstrap tools (required by rev 1.20.2.4 of src/sbin/init/Makefile) Reported by: tmm Revision Changes Path 1.141.2.30 +4 -3 src/Makefile.inc1 -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14: 0:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-26-223-53.mmcable.com [65.26.223.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E3937B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikea@mikea.ath.cx) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71L0hA93513 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:00:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:00:42 -0500 From: mikea To: FreeBSD Stable Listserv Subject: Re: printcap question Message-ID: <20010801160042.A93465@mikea.ath.cx> References: <200108012040.f71Ket224506@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200108011602200247.01D881F1@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200108011602200247.01D881F1@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us>; from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 04:02:20PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 04:02:20PM -0500, Douglas G. Allen wrote: > David, > > >Yes. The bare IP address might work, but as noted, I don't do that. > > I have people telling me it should, but it's not any > real problem to make another entry in /etc/hosts to > cover myself (and the printer). > > >Or you can think of the networked printer as being an incredibly simple > >"host" that has a fancy printer attached. :-} > > True. > > >(Fair warning: I suspect that HP's implementation of lpd leaves a lot > >to be desired, such as the ability to queue requests.) > > But if they say a printer is lpd compatible, then I would > at least expect it to understand the information sent to it > by lpd. My guess is that it won't queue requests, unless it > has a drive of some sort in it, other than on the machine > that asks for the print job. Very much like a Windoze > client does with the same printer(s). The HPs we use here are all networked; the lpd implementation works just dandy. I wish I could say that about _all_ the printers we use here. I have, BTW, seen diskless printers that will queue jobs up to the size of their queue memory, as distinct from their image memory. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:13:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adobe.com (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF7637B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@mtbiker.net) Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com ([153.32.1.51]) by adobe.com (1.0.0/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71LDUt22242; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (mailsj-dev.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.192]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71LDd505854; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtbiker.net ([153.32.129.64]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 v1 Jul 11 2001 16:32:57) with ESMTP id GHEQYF00.GR7; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:13:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3B68712D.1E98DB5E@mtbiker.net> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:14:21 -0700 From: John Martinez X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! References: <20010801192506.28122.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had pretty good luck with them so far. Sure, they didn't update my new address for my subscription. But once they did (I was wondering why I hadn't received 4.3), I got my copy quickly. They didn't even charge me for the replacement copy. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:18:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (unknown [209.175.240.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6251E37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Received: from dougs_laptop (dougs_laptop [209.175.240.20]) by mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07718; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:22:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Message-ID: <200108011623520014.01EC37E8@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> In-Reply-To: <20010801160042.A93465@mikea.ath.cx> References: <200108012040.f71Ket224506@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200108011602200247.01D881F1@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> <20010801160042.A93465@mikea.ath.cx> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.01.02 (1) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:23:52 -0500 From: "Douglas G. Allen" To: "mikea" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable Listserv" Subject: Re: printcap question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike, >The HPs we use here are all networked; the lpd implementation >works just dandy. I wish I could say that about _all_ the >printers we use here. So do you have to run the filters on the file before you send the print job to the printer? I seem to remember a printer I had to do something like that about three years ago. Something like laser_filter file_to_print | lpr >I have, BTW, seen diskless printers that will queue jobs up to >the size of their queue memory, as distinct from their image >memory. This sounds like a good reason to put extra RAM in the printer. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:18:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-80.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3595337B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A3D3F66F1C; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:18:43 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Warner Losh Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Message-ID: <20010801141843.E81543@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3B680C63.8030700@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108011101.VAA01143@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> <20010801130315.B1045@jellyfish.codefactory.se> <3B680C63.8030700@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108011601.f71G1RH04804@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3XA6nns4nE4KvaS/" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108011601.f71G1RH04804@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:01:27AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --3XA6nns4nE4KvaS/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:01:27AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <3B680C63.8030700@lmc.ericsson.se> "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" wri= tes: > : Shouldn't this mandate a UPDATING entry? Or is it already the case? ;) >=20 > Hmmmm. I've never seen this. I'll have to investigate because it is > a bug if it is. One should *NEVER* have to do what the work around > suggests if we've done our job right. I'll go look at the rest of the > thread to see what's up. Nope, I think a commit was overlooked to rebuild the new install earlier as a build tool or something. Kris --3XA6nns4nE4KvaS/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aHIyWry0BWjoQKURAqdeAJ4n4T+MFw/DDX6/jDEBbvAPqVYRMQCgwLJi FNahqlRjXKbUSGjDUeKI7To= =ZjKB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3XA6nns4nE4KvaS/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:21:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-80.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9CD37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:21:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF9CF66D16; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:21:08 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matt Martini Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't turn off IPV6 Message-ID: <20010801142108.F81543@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from martini@invision.net on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 03:23:23PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 03:23:23PM -0400, Matt Martini wrote: > =3D=3D=3D> ipfilter > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/= mlfk_ipl.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 >=20 > Is this a bug or feature? How do I work around it? Sounds like a transient build failure. Always re-cvsup to check when you run into this kind of thing. Kris --6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aHLDWry0BWjoQKURAuD3AKCRmYFelcPZMGsXSlxz2ox52g0R5wCgwPtt PorF7tuOZikimutsyYpHwP8= =ImwP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:24:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705A437B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02890; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:24:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:24:16 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: "Douglas G. Allen" Cc: FreeBSD Stable Listserv Subject: Re: printcap question Message-ID: <20010801142416.C2786@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200108011520450830.01B27220@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108011520450830.01B27220@mail.roe35.lth2.k12.il.us>; from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 03:20:45PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 03:20:45PM -0500, Douglas G. Allen wrote: Please wrap your lines... > In conjunction with my question in the hardware list about printer > compatibility, I'm wondering if I've missed something somewhere in the > documentation. Is there a setting that can go into the printcap entry > for a printer that will allow you to print to a printer with a network > card (EIO Card for HP printers) installed in it? I looked, but I > didn't see anything that looked like it would be exactly what I was > looking to do. I believe lprNG has native support for HP JetDirect printers. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:43:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-80.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C6A37B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7921A66F38; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:43:36 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: David O'Brien Cc: Robert Watson , Nate Williams , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf) Message-ID: <20010801144335.C82198@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <15207.35178.61523.131897@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010801121128.B10275@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dkEUBIird37B8yKS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010801121128.B10275@hub.freebsd.org>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:11:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:11:28PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:08:29AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > > I'd be tempted to disable the portmapper (rpcbind in -CURRENT) by defau= lt, > > allowing it to either be manually enabled, or enabled by virtue of > > dependencies (something we already support). >=20 > It already is disabled in -current since 2000-07-28 22:45:36 > portmap_enable=3D"NO" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). But does sysinstall enable it by default? Kris --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aHgHWry0BWjoQKURAhwiAKDIsessqunywt5Zfez7/tYSryfsdwCfc6UL G6ywU8VhlZgWW0WeHfM7F7U= =IJ36 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dkEUBIird37B8yKS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:47:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D63937B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.217]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19847; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010801144335.C82198@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:39:00 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd. Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org, Nate Williams , Robert Watson , "David O'Brien" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Aug-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:11:28PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:08:29AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: >> > I'd be tempted to disable the portmapper (rpcbind in -CURRENT) by default, >> > allowing it to either be manually enabled, or enabled by virtue of >> > dependencies (something we already support). >> >> It already is disabled in -current since 2000-07-28 22:45:36 >> portmap_enable="NO" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). > > But does sysinstall enable it by default? For liberal and moderate security, yes. Thus by default it does. It's only left off for high and fascist security settings. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:55: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7779237B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f71Lssf64969; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:54:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:54:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: John Baldwin Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org, Nate Williams , "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 01-Aug-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:11:28PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:08:29AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > >> > I'd be tempted to disable the portmapper (rpcbind in -CURRENT) by default, > >> > allowing it to either be manually enabled, or enabled by virtue of > >> > dependencies (something we already support). > >> > >> It already is disabled in -current since 2000-07-28 22:45:36 > >> portmap_enable="NO" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). > > > > But does sysinstall enable it by default? > > For liberal and moderate security, yes. Thus by default it does. It's > only left off for high and fascist security settings. Sadly, I think the "security profile" mechanism has only limited utility. It makes no attempt to match security to the function of the machine, rather, it is an attempt to linearize the application of security restrictions at relatively arbitrary (i.e., developer-defined rather than user-defined) points along an arbitrary scale. If anything, we should have profiles of features, not profiles of security settings in the current form. I.e., "Workstation", "Workstation with Remote Access", ... Enabling portmap should be a function of needing portmap, not a function of a "low" security profile. If the user asks to enable NFS, they should be warned they will incur certain risks, and that this will result in the enabling of certain other services, such as portmap. Likewise, they might be able to specifically enable portmap regardless of NFS, as they might have their own RPC applications, and likewise be warned of the risks and benefits. Because most consumers will only want portmap in the event they're using portmap for NFS or NIS, portmap might not be explicitly prompted for during install by itself, but be available as a config option in the post-install configuration section of sysinstall for manual frobbing. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 14:55:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cube.gelatinous.com (cube.gelatinous.com [207.82.194.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DC0437B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danh@gelatinous.com) Received: (qmail 75497 invoked by uid 1005); 1 Aug 2001 21:55:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20010801215548.75496.qmail@cube.gelatinous.com> From: danh@gelatinous.com Date: 1 Aug 2001 14:55:48 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: getting the linux_base port in /usr/ports/emulators to work Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi as a prelude to installing the linux jdk 1.3, i'm trying to get the /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base port to work I cvsuped my src and /usr/ports, and make completes successfully in /usr/ports/emulators/ when i try make install, it breaks with the following error: pork# make install ===> Installing for linux_base-6.1 setup-2.0.5-1.noarch.rpm filesystem-1.3.5-1.noarch.rpm basesystem-6.0-4.noarch.rpm ldconfig-1.9.5-15.i386.rpm glibc-2.1.2-11.i386.rpm termcap-9.12.6-15.i386.rpm libtermcap-2.0.8-18.i386.rpm execution of libtermcap-2.0.8-18 script failed, exit status 255 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. pork# pwd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base ----- any suggestions on what I should do now? thanks -dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 15: 2:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU [129.78.25.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA9D37B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonym@angis.org.au) Received: (from tonym@localhost) by morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA23223; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:02:15 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:02:15 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200108012202.IAA23223@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just did buldworld, kernel, installworld cycle but there was one small > > problem in installworld > > Perhaps you missed my "HEADS UP". No I saw it. And have been extra diligent in reading the cvs logs and watching cvsup output. I have no complaints and expect the odd glitch on the way given the phase of of the release cycle. > We are in the peroid right before the code freeze, and frankly I was dead > tired and had to stop with my MFC sweep for a short nights sleep. Thanks for all your excellent work, it is appreciated. > I would really recommend not CVSup'ing until Friday. Noted. thanks tonym To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 15:20: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEAF37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.217]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12266; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:19:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Robert Watson Subject: Re: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd. Cc: "David O'Brien" , Nate Williams , arch@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Aug-01 Robert Watson wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> On 01-Aug-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: >> > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:11:28PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:08:29AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: >> >> > I'd be tempted to disable the portmapper (rpcbind in -CURRENT) by >> >> > default, >> >> > allowing it to either be manually enabled, or enabled by virtue of >> >> > dependencies (something we already support). >> >> >> >> It already is disabled in -current since 2000-07-28 22:45:36 >> >> portmap_enable="NO" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). >> > >> > But does sysinstall enable it by default? >> >> For liberal and moderate security, yes. Thus by default it does. It's >> only left off for high and fascist security settings. [ long snip on problems with security profiles ] Not saying security profiles are good or bad, just answering Kris' question. :) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 15:47:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D2937B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:47:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f71Mj8u14073; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:43:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org, Nate Williams , Robert Watson Subject: Re: Disabling portmapper (was Re: Patch to modify default inetd. Message-ID: <20010801154346.A14054@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20010801144335.C82198@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 02:39:00PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 02:39:00PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > >> It already is disabled in -current since 2000-07-28 22:45:36 > >> portmap_enable="NO" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). > > > > But does sysinstall enable it by default? > > For liberal and moderate security, yes. Thus by default it does. It's only > left off for high and fascist security settings. Ah. An for those of us that cvsup, it was equivalant to "fascist security" when the default was changed. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 15:59:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBD637B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71MxEa08407; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:59:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: tonym@angis.org.au, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) In-Reply-To: <20010801132322.A11318@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20010801120655.A10275@hub.freebsd.org> <20010801131329J.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010801132322.A11318@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801155914K.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:59:14 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 32 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My apologies for not making it clearer just when I intended to start code freeze today. I did in fact have a message waiting to go out last night which declared the freeze time to be 18:00 PDT today, but then my editor crashed and I got distracted before I got back to it. Since there's been some confusion and I didn't give the amount of advance warning I wanted to, I hereby extend the "slush start" time to 20:00 PDT tonite (Aug 1st). - Jordan From: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: installworld failure (install of sbin/init) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:23:22 -0700 > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:13:29PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I hope you don't mean to suggest that build failures in -stable are > > now tolerated since they're most certainly not. > > Not in the least. Rather that the code base right now is quickly > changing due to the code freeze today[*]; and that during times of such > quick changes it is hard to `cvs up' at just the right moment to get a > consistent world. Thus it will be much easier for people to build a > release (which of course implies full world), after the dust settles. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > [*] of those I've talked to, we are assuming a freeze time today of 8pm > based on past experience. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 16:12:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.austclear.com.au (ns1.austclear.com.au [192.43.185.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D4837B405; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.166.65]) by ns1.austclear.com.au (8.11.2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f71NC5H90858; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:12:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.166.65]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00237; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:12:05 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200108012312.JAA00237@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! In-Reply-To: Message from Gerd Knops of "Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:25:06 EST." <20010801192506.28122.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:12:04 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Gerd, Maybe I'm just lucky, but I haven't had any problem. My 4.3 CDs arrived without any "intervention" on my part. Maybe a bit more slowly than I might have liked, but I don't need them at the moment so I don't really care. But then, they do say that Australia is "the lucky country" ;-) Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 16:15:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f212.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABDE37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monicashin123@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:15:27 -0700 Received: from 198.82.153.87 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:15:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.82.153.87] From: "Monica Shin" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:15:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2001 23:15:27.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9C59B80:01C11ADF] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a friend of mine contacted me regarding the posting of his "signed" email that was, I believe, exchanged in freebsd-stable forum sometime ago, without his written consent. As of now, I don't know the details of the policy and rules one has to agree and sign before becoming a member to the freebsd-stable list server but he is very upset and serious about this matter. The link is given below. http://www.bsdvault.net/article.php?sid=298&mode=thread&order=0 He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with such matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner should it be possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he has all the rights to ask for any damages to his honor that has occured or should occur in whatever form should it be by email or any of the means; he has the rights to restitution for any misuses and damages to his intellectual property (the message is signed), the party in operation of www.bsdvault.net. To make it even worse, he has the rights to ask for the shutdown of the www.bsdvault.net operation should the Defense loses the case. Whoever is in charge of the operation of the website, www.bsdvault.net, should take this matter seriously and take any means of actions necessary in timely manner to prevent any unnecessary actions that may or may not follow from taking. Regards, Monica Shin, Wdenesday, August 1, 2001. Mr. Cho has resigned from freebsd-stable mailing list for this matter. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 16:28:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cartman.geekhouse.net (valve.dub.net [64.81.252.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3292437B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by cartman.geekhouse.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E7E553219; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:28:19 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Monica Shin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Message-ID: <20010801162819.B37096@cartman.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 at 23:15:27 +0000, Monica Shin wrote: > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a > friend of mine contacted me regarding the posting of his "signed" > email that was, I believe, exchanged in freebsd-stable forum sometime > ago, without his written consent. As of now, I don't know the details > of the policy and rules one has to agree and sign before becoming a > member to the freebsd-stable list server but he is very upset and > serious about this matter. The link is given below. > > http://www.bsdvault.net/article.php?sid=298&mode=thread&order=0 > > He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with > such matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner > should it be possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he > has all the rights to ask for any damages to his honor that has > occured or should occur in whatever form should it be by email or any > of the means; he has the rights to restitution for any misuses and > damages to his intellectual property (the message is signed), the > party in operation of www.bsdvault.net. To make it even worse, he has > the rights to ask for the shutdown of the www.bsdvault.net operation > should the Defense loses the case. Whoever is in charge of the > operation of the website, www.bsdvault.net, should take this matter > seriously and take any means of actions necessary in timely manner to > prevent any unnecessary actions that may or may not follow from > taking. This mailing list has nothing to do with the bsdvault.net web site. If you go to the web site (http://www.bsdvault.net/) and look, you can find the correct contact information listed there. - jim -- - jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. - - http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 16:37:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D2E37B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 15S5YL-0000tq-00; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:37:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: Monica Shin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Comments made to a public mailing list are public comments. They can be re-produced by anyone. Reproduction and redistribution are inherent to all public mailing lists. Any e-mails sent to a public e-mail list are copied to thousands of people, all over the world. Besides the copies that are preserved in various inboxes, copies are kept on countless archives, including bsdvault.com. Since the e-mails are reproduced in entirety and attributed to the author, there should be no copyright issues. Second, I've never heard of people suing for damages incured by statements made by themselves. They should probably being suing themselves. These statements are my own. Tom On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Monica Shin wrote: > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a friend > of mine contacted me regarding the posting of his "signed" email that was, I > believe, exchanged in freebsd-stable forum sometime ago, without his written > consent. As of now, I don't know the details of the policy and rules one > has to agree and sign before becoming a member to the freebsd-stable list > server but he is very upset and serious about this matter. The link is > given below. > > http://www.bsdvault.net/article.php?sid=298&mode=thread&order=0 > > He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with such > matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner should it be > possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he has all the rights > to ask for any damages to his honor that has occured or should occur in > whatever form should it be by email or any of the means; he has the rights > to restitution for any misuses and damages to his intellectual property (the > message is signed), the party in operation of www.bsdvault.net. To make it > even worse, he has the rights to ask for the shutdown of the > www.bsdvault.net operation should the Defense loses the case. Whoever is in > charge of the operation of the website, www.bsdvault.net, should take this > matter seriously and take any means of actions necessary in timely manner to > prevent any unnecessary actions that may or may not follow from taking. > > > Regards, > Monica Shin, > Wdenesday, August 1, 2001. > > Mr. Cho has resigned from freebsd-stable mailing list for this matter. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 16:45:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A094837B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamont@scriptkiddie.org) Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (warez.scriptkiddie.org [209.162.142.38]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5147462D01; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:46:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Tom Cc: Monica Shin , Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010801164201.F8301-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm actually a little annoyed that bsdvault reproduced comments of mine in their entirety without giving me any credit in that post. Not that what I wrote was particularly brilliant. In fact, apart from the principle of the matter I'd probably rather those words weren't attributed to me. But still, its the principle. Anyway, what's the deal with freebsd-stable suddenly getting invaded by rejects from alt.syntax.tactical? This "law student" certain needs to take a few more classes on how to write a c+d. On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Tom wrote: > Comments made to a public mailing list are public comments. They can be > re-produced by anyone. Reproduction and redistribution are inherent to > all public mailing lists. Any e-mails sent to a public e-mail list are > copied to thousands of people, all over the world. Besides the copies > that are preserved in various inboxes, copies are kept on countless > archives, including bsdvault.com. Since the e-mails are reproduced in > entirety and attributed to the author, there should be no copyright > issues. > > Second, I've never heard of people suing for damages incured by > statements made by themselves. They should probably being suing > themselves. > > These statements are my own. > > > Tom > > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Monica Shin wrote: > > > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of > > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a friend > > of mine contacted me regarding the posting of his "signed" email that was, I > > believe, exchanged in freebsd-stable forum sometime ago, without his written > > consent. As of now, I don't know the details of the policy and rules one > > has to agree and sign before becoming a member to the freebsd-stable list > > server but he is very upset and serious about this matter. The link is > > given below. > > > > http://www.bsdvault.net/article.php?sid=298&mode=thread&order=0 > > > > He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with such > > matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner should it be > > possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he has all the rights > > to ask for any damages to his honor that has occured or should occur in > > whatever form should it be by email or any of the means; he has the rights > > to restitution for any misuses and damages to his intellectual property (the > > message is signed), the party in operation of www.bsdvault.net. To make it > > even worse, he has the rights to ask for the shutdown of the > > www.bsdvault.net operation should the Defense loses the case. Whoever is in > > charge of the operation of the website, www.bsdvault.net, should take this > > matter seriously and take any means of actions necessary in timely manner to > > prevent any unnecessary actions that may or may not follow from taking. > > > > > > Regards, > > Monica Shin, > > Wdenesday, August 1, 2001. > > > > Mr. Cho has resigned from freebsd-stable mailing list for this matter. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 17: 4:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.corp.namesafe.com (corp.namesafe.com [209.141.226.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F9C37B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajg@corp.namesafe.com) Received: from mkultra.corp.namesafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.corp.namesafe.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 64A9620F12; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andrew J.Gillis Organization: NameSafe To: Lamont Granquist , Tom Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:04:47 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: References: <20010801164201.F8301-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> In-Reply-To: <20010801164201.F8301-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080117044702.26693@mkultra.corp.namesafe.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stop feeding the troll! ...Ms. Shin a troll proxy for Mr. Cho ?! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 17: 6:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1C537B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: "Douglas G. Allen" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable Listserv" , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: printcap question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:06:34 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 08/01/2001 05:06:32 PM, Serialize complete at 08/01/2001 05:06:32 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check this WWW: http://pdq.sourceforge.net/ Use the ports Luke /usr/ports/print/pdq Also this page is a great help with PDQ itself. http://www.linuxprinting.org/pdq-doc.html Specific info on network printing. http://www.linuxprinting.org/howto/network.html#NETWORKED-PRINTERS "Douglas G. Allen" Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 08/01/2001 01:20 PM To: "FreeBSD Stable Listserv" cc: Subject: printcap question In conjunction with my question in the hardware list about printer compatibility, I'm wondering if I've missed something somewhere in the documentation. Is there a setting that can go into the printcap entry for a printer that will allow you to print to a printer with a network card (EIO Card for HP printers) installed in it? I looked, but I didn't see anything that looked like it would be exactly what I was looking to do. Example: I have several HP printers with EIO cards in them. Each of them is set to a distinct IP address (a.b.c.d), with a mask (e.f.g.h), in the printer configuration. For the Windows printers, you create the IP port, assign the printer to it, then print to the IP address. I'd like to do something similar with a printcap entry and lpd and it would open up the number of printers one can easily use greatly. Thanks in advance for any information. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 17: 6:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx01.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx01.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494AB37B40B for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.157.157] (HELO dave) by dc-mx01.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 15990150; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 20:13:10 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: "Monica Shin" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:06:35 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080119063500.00516@dave> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday 01 August 2001 18:15, Monica Shin wrote: > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a > friend of mine contacted me regarding the posting of his "signed" email > that was, I believe, exchanged in freebsd-stable forum sometime ago, > without his written consent. As of now, I don't know the details of the > policy and rules one has to agree and sign before becoming a member to > the freebsd-stable list server but he is very upset and serious about > this matter. The link is given below. > > http://www.bsdvault.net/article.php?sid=298&mode=thread&order=0 > > He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with such > matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner should it be > possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he has all the > rights to ask for any damages to his honor that has occured or should > occur in whatever form should it be by email or any of the means; he has > the rights to restitution for any misuses and damages to his intellectual > property (the message is signed), the party in operation of > www.bsdvault.net. To make it even worse, he has the rights to ask for > the shutdown of the > www.bsdvault.net operation should the Defense loses the case. Whoever is > in charge of the operation of the website, www.bsdvault.net, should take > this matter seriously and take any means of actions necessary in timely > manner to prevent any unnecessary actions that may or may not follow from > taking. > > > Regards, > Monica Shin, > Wdenesday, August 1, 2001. > > Mr. Cho has resigned from freebsd-stable mailing list for this matter. > > In most jurisdictions in the US it is illegal to represent another person's interests in matters of law without having first been admitted to the bar in one's state. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 17:34:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C2537B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: from ury.york.ac.uk (ury.york.ac.uk [144.32.108.81]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f720Yfg29698; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 01:34:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (gavin@localhost) by ury.york.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f720YfF51903; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 01:34:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: ury.york.ac.uk: gavin owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 01:34:40 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Atkinson X-X-Sender: To: Dave Uhring Cc: Monica Shin , Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" In-Reply-To: <01080119063500.00516@dave> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > On Wednesday 01 August 2001 18:15, Monica Shin wrote: > > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of > > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a > > In most jurisdictions in the US it is illegal to represent another person's > interests in matters of law without having first been admitted to the bar > in one's state. I wouldn't worry too much about that - the IP address from the headers of the email she posted reverse resolves back to an address within Virginia Tech, VA anyway... gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 17:36:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D9A37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f720Zpa09185; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: ahl@austclear.com.au Cc: gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! In-Reply-To: <200108012312.JAA00237@tungsten.austclear.com.au> References: <200108012312.JAA00237@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801173551B.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 17:35:51 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 9 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Tony Landells Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:12:04 +1000 > But then, they do say that Australia is "the lucky country" ;-) Yeah, you got all the convicts. We got all the puritans. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 17:49:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from updraft.jp.freebsd.org (updraft.jp.FreeBSD.ORG [210.157.158.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B46937B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:49:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by updraft.jp.freebsd.org (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet id f720nca55728 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:49:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 32 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fat kernel, needs dieting (again :-) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:49:21 +0900 Message-Id: <20010802094921N.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 'make release' as of Aug/01/2001 JST fails, since a kernel for kern.flp is a little bigger and doesn't fit to a 1.44MB floppy. % ls -lR total 1297 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 06:11 boot -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1316804 Aug 2 06:11 kernel.gz ./boot: total 162 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Aug 2 06:11 boot1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7680 Aug 2 06:11 boot2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 147456 Aug 2 06:11 loader -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 136 Aug 2 06:11 loader.rc % du -s . 1460 . *** The other day a guy (sorry I forgot who) says that 1) /boot/boot1 and /boot/boot2 can be safely removed, since these are not used. It brings us about 8kbytes. 2) /boot/loader can be kgzip(1)ed. It brings us about (approx.) 60kbytes. Hack 1) is already committed into 5-current so it's safe to do. Hack 2) is not yet commited to any branches, but I've tested with recent 4-stable and 5-current and it works fine. -- - Makoto MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 17:56:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6760037B406 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f720tea09337; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: monicashin123@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010801175540R.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 17:55:40 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 40 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD project and should not be posted to its mailing lists. The web site www.bsdvault.net is a completely independent entity and you have violated the published mailing list charter for freebsd-stable by even posting your complaint here. Please see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL For full information on what constitutes valid material for the freebsd-stable mailing list. Whether the content originated here or not is also irrelevent since these are publically available mailing lists for which published fair-use guidelines apply. The project holds no responsibility for the content or redistribution of the contents of these lists and all usage of them as at "own risk", as described in the BSD license. This notice also constitutes your first official warning of a charter violation. Should you repeat this offense, you will be banned from all FreeBSD mailing lists in accordance with the charters. Thank you. - Jordan P.S. In case it's not clear, we're NOT going to be dragged into this and I am firmly invoking the mailing list charters to preempt any such thing. No further traffic to this list on this matter at all, please! From: "Monica Shin" Subject: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:15:27 +0000 > http://www.bsdvault.net/article.php?sid=298&mode=thread&order=0 > > He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with such > matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner should it be > possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he has all the rights > to ask for any damages to his honor that has occured or should occur in > whatever form should it be by email or any of the means; he has the rights > to restitution for any misuses and damages to his intellectual property (the > message is signed), the party in operation of www.bsdvault.net. To make it > even worse, he has the rights to ask for the shutdown of the To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 18:18:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F5337B442; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id nhgcaaaa for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:17:33 +1000 Message-ID: <3B68AB0B.8EE7B4AE@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:21:15 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Landells Cc: gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! References: <200108012312.JAA00237@tungsten.austclear.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tony Landells wrote: > > Hi Gerd, > > Maybe I'm just lucky, but I haven't had any problem. My 4.3 CDs > arrived without any "intervention" on my part. Maybe a bit more > slowly than I might have liked, but I don't need them at the moment > so I don't really care. > > But then, they do say that Australia is "the lucky country" ;-) It must be "the lucky country" since I had no problems with my subscription ether... Besides it arriving 2 or 3 weeks late ofcouse :P To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 18:39:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26DB37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timothyk@server1.wallnet.com) Received: from localhost (timothyk@localhost) by server1.wallnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA25123; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:39:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Kellers To: Mike Smith Cc: Kevin Oberman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable In-Reply-To: <200107310807.f6V87kd01790@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to everyone for their input. This morning I was able to configure the RAID 5 logical drive 3 x 36 gig drives for a 72 gig logical drive --67 gig and change actually, the hd overhead chewed up > 4 gig. The boot disks from the 7/21/01 snapshot from releng4.freebsd.org worked like a charm and, after cvsupping the sources (I know, a somewhat hazardous procedure in a code freeze), I was able to compile an SMP kernel that supported both the machine's processors. I installed and ran the dnetc client just so I could watch the CPU's switch back in forth in a top screen. :-) FreeBSD on this machine makes for one snappy server. Thanks again for all your help. Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > Here is a summary of PERC hardware from Mike Smith who did most (all) > > of the driver work for them: > > The PERC, PERC 2/SC, PERC 2/DC and PERC 3/D* are AMI designs. > > > > The PERC 2/Si, PERC 2/Di, PERC 3/Si and PERC 2/QC are Adaptec designs. > > > > "PERC" means "this is a Dell-branded RAID controller". > > "2" and "3" refer to 40MHz vs 80MHz SCSI support. > > "S" "D" and "Q" are single, dual and quad channel designations. > > "i" means it's integrated onto the server motherboard. > > "C" means it's an addin card. > > "L" means it's the low-cost version. > > Just to amend this; the 3/DC is an AMI controller, but the 3/Di is an > Adaptec design. > > Another way of looking at it is that if it's an 'i', or a QC, it's an > Adaptec. Otherwise it's an AMI. Knowing Dell, though, this may change > again without too much notice. 8( > > -- > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 18:47: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web20103.mail.yahoo.com (web20103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C764D37B406 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:47:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from getzz1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010802014701.67570.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.8.72.253] by web20103.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:47:01 PDT Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: klein brock Subject: upgrade To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010724221140.A43654@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i want to upgrade my FreeBSD4.2-STABLE to FreeBSD4.3-STABLE can anybody help me ? or give me some suggestion which doc should i read ? 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Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 18:50:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mostgraveconcern.com (mostgraveconcern.com [216.82.145.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFBB37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Received: from dan (dan.mostgraveconcern.com [10.20.155.5]) by mostgraveconcern.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f721oGv41529; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Message-ID: <018a01c11af5$7aef5720$059b140a@dan> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "klein brock" , References: <20010802014701.67570.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: upgrade Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:50:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > i want to upgrade my FreeBSD4.2-STABLE to > FreeBSD4.3-STABLE > > can anybody help me ? or give me some suggestion which > doc should i read ? Take a look at my 'make world' cheat sheet at http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/sheet.cgi?mw Have fun! --Dan -- Dan O'Connor On Matters of Most Grave Concern http://www.mostgraveconcern.com FreeBSD Cheat Sheets http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 18:52: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AFB37B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rkohler1@cox.rr.com) Received: from b1m1x9 ([24.163.115.240]) by mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:51:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c11b0f$448c7680$ea01a8c0@cox.rr.com> Reply-To: "Raymond Kohler" From: "Raymond Kohler" To: Subject: silly doc-bug to fix before release Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:54:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just noticed a thinko in make.conf(5) today. What ought to be FORCE_PKG_REGISTER is FORCE_PKG_RESIDENT. No biggie, obviously, but it seemed like a good thing to fix... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 18:58: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4DFF37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 68547 invoked by uid 100); 2 Aug 2001 01:58:01 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15208.45993.948682.285624@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:58:01 -0500 To: klein brock Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrade In-Reply-To: <20010802014701.67570.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010724221140.A43654@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010802014701.67570.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG klein brock types: > i want to upgrade my FreeBSD4.2-STABLE to > FreeBSD4.3-STABLE > > can anybody help me ? or give me some suggestion which > doc should i read ? If you're running 4.2-STABLE - and not -RELEASE - you're already most of the way there. Updating your source tree again, and reinstalling the world should do the trick. The handbook covers this at and following. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 19:45:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [216.150.202.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D1537B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:45:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f722iR531822 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:44:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:44:27 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Boot oddness Message-ID: <20010801224427.A31742@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So I installed FreeBSD to be duaql boot with WinME; WinME is on disk 1, a 30G drive, FreeBSD on 2, another 30G drive. All went well in install, but when I boot, I have problems. When I get to the promtp for loading an OS, I have the choices of F1 for the OS on the drive, GF5 to change drives. F5 works fine, but when I choose F1, the system freezes. To make it odder, if the default is to load an OS, if I wait without pressing F1, it .will. load the OS. Sadly, it has a habit of changing the default from F1 to F5, at which point I cannot load anything; I have to pop in my Install CD and make it boot the drive. How can I fix this? I would like the menu to work, but I would likely settle for making a floppy for FreeBSD that I can just pop in when I want to boot FreeBSD. Ideas? Jamie PS Sorry for typos, 5 second lag to my email box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 19:52:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.xrxgsn.com (unknown [216.42.106.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446FF37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike.porter@xrxgsn.com) Received: from laptop (1Cust65.tnt4.salt-lake-city.ut.da.uu.net [63.11.216.65]) by mailhost.xrxgsn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA07717; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <025d01c11afd$ee861fe0$0300a8c0@laptop> From: "Mike Porter" To: "Robert Watson" Cc: , Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:50:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ->On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mike Porter wrote: > > >Actually, although I'm happy with the current default of enabling SSH for >now, if there isn't already a sysinstall post-install config twiddle for >SSH, we should probably add one. To be honest, a "default all off" >policy, with the opportunity to enable easily in sysinstall, might be >better than turning SSH on by default. Maybe we'll do that for >5.0-RELEASE :-). Yes thank you for clarifying. Although as I mentioned earlier, I managed to misread your post and thought you were toaling about ssh when you were talking about ftpd... > >This is true--however, the inetd.conf file doesn't lend itself to >automated management, as it doesn't have an inline "disabled" flag. To >disable a service, you comment it out, making it hard for a program to >distinguish things which are legitimately comments, and things that are >disabled services. In the long term, it would probably make sense to >develop some sort of administrative tool for inetd.conf: however, I >concluded that doing so prior to 4.4-RELEASE was unlikely, and opted for >this. In the future, if such a tool is developed, I'd be happy to slot it >in instead of invoking EDITOR on it :-). > This is an interesting point, though it could also be argued that if there is a prety tool to do it, many (most?) of the comments in the file are no longer needed. The flip side of this, of course is that then you are more or less forced into using the specialized editor, and there are those who would prefer not to (at least not all the time). JUst brainstorming here....but another potential advantage...such a program could invoke a boot time check of inetd.conf to a stored backup created on editing, which block stuff like the person who had the "dlip" line in his inetd.conf. I suppose the argument AGAINST that is that whoever put that line in his inetd.conf could as easily have access to the mythical-viinetd (to borrow from vipw), and this therefore doesn't add much in the way of *real* security. Well, I'm going to shut up now before I put my foot in my mouth again. mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 19:57:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB28A37B40F for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.159]) by femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010802025721.WJRK7798.femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:57:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3B68C06A.131C4C67@home.com> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:52:26 -0400 From: Ted Sikora X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: firewall ruleset questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have stable on both cable and dsl. Each machine has 2 nic cards. I just setup up a firewall with the following rules. I just need http ftp ssh nfs(internal network) # Define the firewall command fwcmd="/sbin/ipfw" # Force a flushing of the current rules before we reload. $fwcmd -f flush # Divert all packets through the xl0 interface. $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via xl0 # Allow all data from my network cards and localhost. $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via lo0 $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via xl0 $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via ed0 # Allow all connections that I initiate. $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any out xmit xl0 setup # Once connections are made, allow them to stay open. $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any via xl0 established # Everyone on the internet is allowed to connect to the following # services on the machine. $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 80 setup $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 20 setup $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 21 setup $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 22 setup # This sends a RESET to all ident packets. $fwcmd add reset log tcp from any to any 113 in recv xl0 # Allow outgoing DNS queries ONLY to the specified servers. # $fwcmd add allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out xmit xl0 # Allow them back in with the answers... :) # $fwcmd add allow udp from x.x.x.x 53 to any in recv xl0 # Allow ICMP (for ping and traceroute to work). $fwcmd add 65435 allow icmp from any to any # Deny all the rest. $fwcmd add 65435 deny log ip from any to any Will this suffice or does it need tightening. Also do I need : # If you're using 'options BRIDGE' #${fwcmd} add 400 pass udp from 0.0.0.0 2054 to 0.0.0.0 with cable and dsl modems? Can I limit nat to one ip like 192.168.1.5? Will nat cause a problem with other machines on the internal network with their own net connection? -- Ted Sikora tsikora@ntplx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 20:23:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from terminus.rootprompt.net (ci933622-a.ruthfd1.tn.home.com [24.252.218.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF2E37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@rootprompt.net) Received: from recon (recon.rootprompt.net [192.168.1.2]) by terminus.rootprompt.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BA58F805; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:23:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert Banniza" To: "Ted Sikora" , Subject: RE: firewall ruleset questions Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:25:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3B68C06A.131C4C67@home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check out http://www.rootprompt.net/freebsd_firewall.html Robert -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ted Sikora Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:52 PM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: firewall ruleset questions I have stable on both cable and dsl. Each machine has 2 nic cards. I just setup up a firewall with the following rules. I just need http ftp ssh nfs(internal network) # Define the firewall command fwcmd="/sbin/ipfw" # Force a flushing of the current rules before we reload. $fwcmd -f flush # Divert all packets through the xl0 interface. $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via xl0 # Allow all data from my network cards and localhost. $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via lo0 $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via xl0 $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via ed0 # Allow all connections that I initiate. $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any out xmit xl0 setup # Once connections are made, allow them to stay open. $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any via xl0 established # Everyone on the internet is allowed to connect to the following # services on the machine. $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 80 setup $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 20 setup $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 21 setup $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 22 setup # This sends a RESET to all ident packets. $fwcmd add reset log tcp from any to any 113 in recv xl0 # Allow outgoing DNS queries ONLY to the specified servers. # $fwcmd add allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out xmit xl0 # Allow them back in with the answers... :) # $fwcmd add allow udp from x.x.x.x 53 to any in recv xl0 # Allow ICMP (for ping and traceroute to work). $fwcmd add 65435 allow icmp from any to any # Deny all the rest. $fwcmd add 65435 deny log ip from any to any Will this suffice or does it need tightening. Also do I need : # If you're using 'options BRIDGE' #${fwcmd} add 400 pass udp from 0.0.0.0 2054 to 0.0.0.0 with cable and dsl modems? Can I limit nat to one ip like 192.168.1.5? Will nat cause a problem with other machines on the internal network with their own net connection? -- Ted Sikora tsikora@ntplx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 20:57:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11601.mail.yahoo.com (web11601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38E0737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:57:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sncho@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010802035717.1735.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.82.153.87] by web11601.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 20:57:17 PDT Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:57:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sung N. Cho" Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" To: Gavin Atkinson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm sorry for posting it again when I'm not even a freebsd user. Again very sorry. But, I don't know what this person's reply meant and he seem to have sent it to all members in the list which, in turn, forces me to reply to all just to clarify things before it results in any unnecessary twist :) Yes, I'm visiting "someone" in Virginia. University of Washington doesn't start it's Fall quarter until late September. But, I'm wondering what you were getting at by stating what you've just said here? Also, I couldn't locate the poster from bsdvault site. And, since he must have read the messages exchanged in freebsd forum, I figured he should be logging in soon and therefore, able to receive my message. I should have made it clear beforehand why I was sending the earlier message. I'm sorry for that. I don't think, "if you read the message very carefully", I have ever said anything about freebsd being at fault or any actions will be taken against! Again, I'm sorry for this message. But, if you aren't the person whom I'm seeking to have conversation with, I beg you, please ignore this message. Thank you and sorry again for this. Regards, Monica. P.S. Please, if you feel that you are in need to respond to this message or the earlier one, respond to me only. That way, I don't have to send emails to all the people you've sent to just to have things cleared up! --- Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 August 2001 18:15, Monica Shin > wrote: > > > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law > student at University of > > > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, > Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a > > > > In most jurisdictions in the US it is illegal to > represent another person's > > interests in matters of law without having first > been admitted to the bar > > in one's state. > > I wouldn't worry too much about that - the IP > address from the headers of > the email she posted reverse resolves back to an > address within Virginia > Tech, VA anyway... > > gavin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 21: 1: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D7FA37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mariodoria@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO valk) (200.56.121.73) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2001 04:01:01 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <007101c11b07$be54e400$0a00a8c0@valk> From: "Mario Doria" To: Subject: Change to Bind 9 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:00:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi When is FBSD moving to use the BIND9 server instead of BIND8? 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 21: 9:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rltd-mail.remingtonmicroshare.com (unknown [65.192.117.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2F637B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronneilc@remingtonltd.com) Received: by rltd-mail.remingtonmicroshare.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:07:06 -0500 Message-ID: <86CD2413CA6FB44CB4345736570CCA934C40DA@rltd-mail.remingtonmicroshare.com> From: Ronneil Camara To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make buildworld Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:06:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm new here. I am using Freebsd 4.3. I just cvsup the ports and stable-supfile. On my make buildworld, I receive this errors: --------snippet------- cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wno-uninitialize d -Werror -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -c /usr/s rc/bin/chmod/chmod.c *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin/chmod. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. So how would I fix this error? Thanks. Neil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 21:17:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3106737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from coffee@blarg.net) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21ABBD14; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paco.blarg.net (trilluser@paco.fatburrito.com [206.124.139.210]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01723; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801211941.039c2bc8@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: coffee@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:20:29 -0700 To: "Mario Doria" , From: "Derek C." Subject: Re: Change to Bind 9 In-Reply-To: <007101c11b07$be54e400$0a00a8c0@valk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG They have, just not by default. There are changes that have to be made to configuration, so the move is not an easy or painless move. If you want bind9, try looking in /usr/ports/net/bind9 Derek At 09:00 PM 8/1/2001, Mario Doria wrote: >Hi > >When is FBSD moving to use the BIND9 server instead of BIND8? > >Mario Doria > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 21:25:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11607.mail.yahoo.com (web11607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3337537B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sncho@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010802042528.58488.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.82.153.87] by web11607.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:25:28 PDT Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sung N. Cho" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've discontinued using my sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu account because some of you were very annoying and flooding me with emails that I really don't have time to read. I know Monica just sent you a message using my yahoo account. Please.... If you are going to still drag on to some of my messages last week, do not email me for I'm more interested in how the development process is going with FreeBSD project than to listen to unprofessional remarks or flames. If you haven't noticed, I've stopped posting comments. I'm only here to read the activities in list serve. (I am at the moment in the process of making my customized OS with FreeBSD just like what SUN did to Solaris with more friendly BSD license). And, no, I didn't get kicked out! I've discontinued my previous account just to end the ever ongoing flame games. If you have anything to say to what Monica wrote, please send it to her hotmail address. And, please don't start the flame. I really don't have time to go through emails of that sort. P.S. And, yes, I've ran into the bsdvault posting this morning, in my laboratory, while making organic solar cell samples and reading through (bsd implementation and design) between breaks. And, Mr. Jordan, I'm sorry for this message. I just wanted to clarify things a little. Yours sincerely, Sung N. Cho, Wednesday, August 1, 2001. Dept. of Physics, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 21:31:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU [129.78.25.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B7F37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonym@angis.org.au) Received: (from tonym@localhost) by morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA14976; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:31:28 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:31:28 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200108020431.OAA14976@morgan.angis.su.OZ.AU> To: ronneilc@remingtonltd.com Subject: Re: make buildworld Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm new here. > I am using Freebsd 4.3. I just cvsup the ports and stable-supfile. This week is not a good week to cvsup (especially if you are new) due to the large number of commits before code freeze for next release. > --------snippet------- > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > -W > -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > -Wno-uninitialize > d -Werror -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -c > /usr/s > rc/bin/chmod/chmod.c I get: cc1: warnings being treated as errors In file included from /usr/src/bin/chmod/chmod.c:53: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/fts.h:48: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype > So how would I fix this error? It looks like someone needs to MFC r1.4 for src/include/fts.h Its probably already on a someones todo list. Best solution is to wait till friday when things should have settled down and re-cvsup and try again then. tonym To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 21:41:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx07.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx07.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DC237B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.157.157] (HELO dave) by dc-mx07.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 16071721; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:48:59 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: "Sung N. Cho" , Gavin Atkinson Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:41:15 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <20010802035717.1735.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010802035717.1735.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080123411501.00516@dave> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday 01 August 2001 22:57, Sung N. Cho wrote: > I'm sorry for posting it again when I'm not even a > freebsd user. Again very sorry. But, I don't know > what this person's reply meant and he seem to have > sent it to all members in the list which, in turn, > forces me to reply to all just to clarify things > before it results in any unnecessary twist :) > > Yes, I'm visiting "someone" in Virginia. University > of Washington doesn't start it's Fall quarter until > late September. But, I'm wondering what you were > getting at by stating what you've just said here? > > Also, I couldn't locate the poster from bsdvault site. > And, since he must have read the messages exchanged > in freebsd forum, I figured he should be logging in > soon and therefore, able to receive my message. I > should have made it clear beforehand why I was sending > the earlier message. I'm sorry for that. > > I don't think, "if you read the message very > carefully", I have ever said anything about freebsd > being at fault or any actions will be taken against! > > Again, I'm sorry for this message. But, if you aren't > the person whom I'm seeking to have conversation with, > I beg you, please ignore this message. Thank you and > sorry again for this. > > > Regards, > Monica. > > > P.S. Please, if you feel that you are in need to > respond to this message or the earlier one, respond to > me only. That way, I don't have to send emails to all > the people you've sent to just to have things cleared > up! > > > > > > > --- Gavin Atkinson > > wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > > > On Wednesday 01 August 2001 18:15, Monica Shin > > > > wrote: > > > > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law > > > > student at University of > > > > > > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, > > > > Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a > > > > > In most jurisdictions in the US it is illegal to > > > > represent another person's > > > > > interests in matters of law without having first > > > > been admitted to the bar > > > > > in one's state. > > > > I wouldn't worry too much about that - the IP > > address from the headers of > > the email she posted reverse resolves back to an > > address within Virginia > > Tech, VA anyway... > > > > gavin > > You appear to be giving legal advise to another person and making legal threats without having the necessary license to do so. To wit, He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with such matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner should it be possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he has all the rights to ask for any damages to his honor that has occured or should occur in whatever form should it be by email or any of the means; he has the rights to restitution for any misuses and damages to his intellectual property (the message is signed), the party in operation of www.bsdvault.net. To make it even worse, he has the rights to ask for the shutdown of the www.bsdvault.net operation should the Defense loses the case. Whoever is in charge of the operation of the website, www.bsdvault.net, should take this matter seriously and take any means of actions necessary in timely manner to prevent any unnecessary actions that may or may not follow from taking. Regards, Monica Shin, Wdenesday, August 1, 2001. If you do not understand this, perhaps you should seek the advice of one of your faculty members. This is a public forum and such matters as you have brought to it are in violation of its charter, as are my answers. Unfortunately, it is the only one available at the moment and the import of the subject matter does relate to the history of the forum. My last post regards this matter. Sorry, Jordan, I think it had to be done. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 1:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14D137B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:00:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id D72C55FEB0; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:54 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:54 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 05:00:05 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045455.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 1:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BA737B406 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:00:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 83D3C5FB8C; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:54 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:54 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:54:54 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045454.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 1:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D204C37B40B for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 25D8F5FEB4; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 05:04:25 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045455.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 1:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740A637B409 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 707D65FEB6; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 05:04:25 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045455.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 2:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAEE37B40C for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 95A025FEB8; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 06:00:08 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045455.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 2:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227ED37B40E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 077F55FEBC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:55 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 06:00:08 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045455.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 2:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE8D37B410 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 70F6D5FE4E; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:57 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:57 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 07:00:10 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045456.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 3: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63DF37B414 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 957775FE7E; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:57 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:57 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 07:00:10 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045456.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 3:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCBD37B419 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 5DD8C5FEA5; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 09:00:05 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045456.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 3:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820D737B41D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 825975FEAD; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 09:00:05 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045456.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 3:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8389737B41F for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 04AB35FE82; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:57 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:57 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 08:00:03 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045456.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 4: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873CB37B420 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 395F75FE85; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 08:00:03 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045456.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 4: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E88E37B426 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id C94F05FEBD; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 10:00:08 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045457.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 4:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.corbina.net (earth.corbina.net [195.14.50.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2389C37B427 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrey.Lykhin@p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org) Received: by earth.corbina.net (Postfix, from userid 67) id 3EE9C5FE79; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:00:59 +0400 (MSD) Received: from p31.f68.n5090.z2.fidonet.org by f128.n5020.z2.fidonet.org with FTN (ifmail v.2.15) id AA91593; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:00:58 +0400 Apparently-To: stable@freebsd.org To: stable@freebsd.org From: Andrey Lykhin Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:38:36 +0400 Subject: bugs Message-ID: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> X-FTN-FLAGS: CFM PVT TRN K/S RRQ X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5090/68.31@FidoNet 3b68d95a X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68.31 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 04:45:59 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5090/68 FTrack 3.02/W32 02 Aug 2001 10:00:08 UTC+0800 X-FTN-Via: 2:5020/52 @20010802.045457.UTC FTrack 3.01/FBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" - to keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and by pressing a key "u". FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. dmesg: === Start Windows Clipboard === Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> intro [...] avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md1: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 ad0s2: truncating raw partition ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 [...] === End Windows Clipboard === It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22: 4:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901F137B42A for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from coffee@blarg.net) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E67FBCEA; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paco.blarg.net (trilluser@paco.fatburrito.com [206.124.139.210]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08206; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:04:12 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801220725.03833768@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: coffee@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:07:36 -0700 To: Andrey Lykhin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Derek C." Subject: Re: bugs In-Reply-To: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any reason you feel the need to send this 3 times? At 04:38 PM 8/1/2001, Andrey Lykhin wrote: >FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is not established with compact disc on the computer: > >CPU: Intel pentium 166 mmx; >MotherBoard: Acorp 5vx32, i430vx chipset; >HDD: IDE Fujitsu MPD3064AT 6.48GB UDMA33; >CD-ROM: IDE Samsung 8x SCR-830. > >At installation fdisk can not keep the made changes with a disk, press "w" >- to >keep the made changes and sysinstall leaves on 11 signal, too most occurs and >by pressing a key "u". >FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE is established without problems. > >dmesg: >=== Start Windows Clipboard === >Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. >Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 21 11:15:36 GMT 2001 > jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS >Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >Timecounter "TSC" frequency 166586981 Hz >CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.59-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x8001bf >real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) >config> intro >[...] >avail memory = 26206208 (25592K bytes) >Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0672000. >Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug >md1: Malloc disk >npx0: on motherboard >npx0: INT 16 interface >pcib0: on motherboard >pci0: on pcib0 >isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 >isa0: on isab0 >atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 >ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 >ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 >pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 >fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 >fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold >fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 >atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 >atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 >kbd0 at atkbd0 >vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 >sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 >sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> >ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable >ad0: 6187MB [13410/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 >acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 >Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c >ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size >ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 >ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 >ad0s2: truncating raw partition >ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice >ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 >ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 >ad0s2: raw partition size != slice size >ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 >ad0s2c: start 4192965, end 12659219, size 8466255 >ad0s2: truncating raw partition >ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice >ad0s2: start 4192965, end 10554704, size 6361740 >ad0s2f: start 4470885, end 12659219, size 8188335 >[...] >=== End Windows Clipboard === > > >It would be desirable to decide(solve) this problem. A thank. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22:25:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mostgraveconcern.com (mostgraveconcern.com [216.82.145.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8CD37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Received: from dan (dan.mostgraveconcern.com [10.20.155.5]) by mostgraveconcern.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f725P2v42063; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@mostgraveconcern.com) Message-ID: <00ee01c11b13$7d12d7c0$059b140a@dan> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Andrey Lykhin" , , "Derek C." References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801220725.03833768@mail.blarg.net> Subject: Re: bugs Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:25:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Any reason you feel the need to send this 3 times? I got 14 copies. --Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22:30:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1D237B405 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from coffee@blarg.net) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47EEBD36; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paco.blarg.net (trilluser@paco.fatburrito.com [206.124.139.210]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11556; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:30:45 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801223357.03847d50@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: coffee@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:34:08 -0700 To: "Dan O'Connor" , "Andrey Lykhin" , From: "Derek C." Subject: Re: bugs In-Reply-To: <00ee01c11b13$7d12d7c0$059b140a@dan> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801220725.03833768@mail.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm up that high now At 10:25 PM 8/1/2001, Dan O'Connor wrote: > > Any reason you feel the need to send this 3 times? > >I got 14 copies. > >--Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22:32: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vault12.wastelandranger.org (cn-237-242.dsl.stwr.brightok.net [205.162.237.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DCE37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) Received: from localhost (jga@localhost) by vault12.wastelandranger.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f725XBw00881 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:33:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vault12.wastelandranger.org: jga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:33:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Joseph Anthony Reply-To: Joseph Anthony To: Subject: Re: bugs In-Reply-To: <00ee01c11b13$7d12d7c0$059b140a@dan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Maybe the stable file for majordomo is looping his email. Could the list owner put stable@freebsd.org as a reply-to? On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Dan O'Connor wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:25:02 -0700 > From: Dan O'Connor > To: Andrey Lykhin , > stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Derek C. > Subject: Re: bugs > > > Any reason you feel the need to send this 3 times? > > I got 14 copies. > > --Dan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > - -- .-. _-~\ .-. \==/ | Joseph Anthony ( O ) |\ O \ (___) (oo) | http://www.wastelandranger.org `-' /\\_-~ |v| () | jga@wastelandranger.org CAMBOT! GYPSY! TOM SERVO! CROOOOW! | ICQ #3923267 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBO2jYB1sv4MjRLilNEQILtgCeK7X/JtPRwtBPGKlOeWSJ3mYPp1wAoPzR hby0BDYUM1U4yAD50U0Ttxs2 =OLDS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22:40:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hsd.com.au (CPE-144-132-42-44.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.42.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317D937B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew.cowan@hsd.com.au) Received: from callisto by hsd.com.au with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.1.R) for ; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:38:16 +1000 Reply-To: From: "Andrew Cowan" To: Subject: RE: bugs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:38:14 +1000 Message-ID: <006f01c11b15$53c86630$e165a8c0@hsd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801223357.03847d50@mail.blarg.net> X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: andrew.cowan@hsd.com.au X-MDRcpt-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can we get back to BSD now? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Derek C. Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 3:34 PM To: Dan O'Connor; Andrey Lykhin; stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bugs I'm up that high now At 10:25 PM 8/1/2001, Dan O'Connor wrote: > > Any reason you feel the need to send this 3 times? > >I got 14 copies. > >--Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 22:45: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from o200.swiss-web.com (o200.swiss-web.com [195.129.104.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5684C37B409 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@pc-service.ch) Received: from webmail.swiss-web.com ([195.129.104.120]) by o200.swiss-web.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 127-60292U6000L600S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:45:15 +0200 X-WebMail-UserID: pc-service Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:44:55 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Jason Andresen Cc: freebsd-stable X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002676 Subject: RE: Telnet Message-ID: <3B3A719B@webmail.swiss-web.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Jason >===== Original Message From Jason Andresen ===== >> I would connect to my shell machine at otaku.freeshell.org. If I use telnet >> from Win9x/WinNT/Win2k I've no problem to access. If I use telnet from >> FreeBSD4.3 I can't correct steering my shell (some keys won't functions). I >> changed also the TERM variable to vt100 without success (in this case the >> command line from FreeBSD ist verry strange). What I doing wrong? >> Thank you in advance. >How are you using telnet from the FreeBSD machine? Are you on the >console ... at the console >or are you in an xterm? ... no, perhaps later The PC Console isn't a very good VT100 >emulator, >you need to use a mode like "pc-cons" or "pc-ansi" or "ansi" or "cons25" >or "pccons" or whatever the remote system actually has for PC consoles. In default FreeBSD uses cons25. If I use TERM=vt100 then I can not use all keys and the screen has some strange caracters. >XTerms in general are halfway decent VT100 emulators, but using "xterm" >is even better. I will test it. >Windows telnet is a terrible emulator, but if you consider it to work >with >"no problems" as a vt100 terminal, then you should have no problem >getting >equivelent functionality out of FreeBSD with the right term variable. Which is your prefered TERM variable for telnet access? -- PC-Service M. Schweizer Gewerbehaus Schwarz CH-8608 Bubikon ZH Tel. +41 55 243 30 00 Fax. +41 55 243 33 22 www.pc-service.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 1 23:27:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [194.77.232.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B784A37B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:27:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11775; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:28:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) From: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-Id: <200108020628.IAA11775@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! In-Reply-To: from Noah Dunker at "Aug 1, 2001 02:51:45 pm" To: ndunker@jccc.net (Noah Dunker) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:28:50 +0200 (CEST) Cc: gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com ('gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com'), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Noah Dunker wrote: > Nothing safer than a > 'cat /dev/wallet | grep $price > real-person; mv 4.3-RELEASE Laptop-Case' > transaction. :) I'd prefer mv 4.3-RELEASE Laptop-Case && cat /dev/wallet | grep $price > real-person SCNR, Patrick -- --- WEB ISS GmbH - Scheffelstr. 17a - 76135 Karlsruhe - 0721/9109-0 --- ------ Patrick M. Hausen - Technical Director - hausen@punkt.de ------- "Two men say, they're Jesus - one of 'em must be wrong." (Dire Straits) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 1:47:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fmdb.c3.hu (line-25-85.dial.matav.net [145.236.25.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E217E37B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 01:47:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mico@bsd.hu) Received: (qmail 37268 invoked by uid 1003); 2 Aug 2001 08:10:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:10:17 +0200 From: Miklos Niedermayer To: Ken Menzel Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable Message-ID: <20010802101017.A27852@bsd.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Miklos Niedermayer , Ken Menzel , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA6B@exchange.epr.com> <026901c11a8e$83c09880$711663cf@icarz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <026901c11a8e$83c09880$711663cf@icarz.com>; from kenm@icarz.com on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:33:13AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:33:13AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > I have had terrible problems with the perc controllers from Dell > that have been discussed before on this list. However we order our > 2400's and 1400's from dell and add Adaptec's 2100S and 3200S > controllers that Mike Smith added support for in 4.2 and the hardware > RAID is the fastest reliable RAID we have ever seen. The only I can confirm this. We are running a machine with an Adaptec 3200S / 64 MB controller and it's simply **very fast**, even with RAID5. And it wasn't that expensive (i mean, i have seen lots of more expensive cards as well). Btw, as far as i know, these Adaptec RAID cards are derived from DPTs, and DPTs were always very good. Bye Mico To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 2:52:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from radiac.mine.nu (h138n2fls22o980.telia.com [213.66.251.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E74537B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 02:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ps@radiac.mine.nu) Received: (from ps@localhost) by radiac.mine.nu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f729qol62068 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:52:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ps) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:52:44 +0200 From: Patrik Sundberg To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: creating releases Message-ID: <20010802115244.A60577@radiac.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, I need to create my own releases of FreeBSD stable (+ some additions for my product), including CD's and the works. I have some problems with make release in /usr/src/release and wonder if someone could give or point me to some steps on how to do this the correct way? -- -----------------------------------------------------------. Patrik Sundberg email: ps@raditex.se || ps@radiac.mine.nu | Phone: +46 13 178567 || +46 707 602240 | .---> UNIX consultant | |-----> Applied Physics and Electrical Engineering student | `----------------------------------------------------------' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 3:26:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6994F37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:26:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15SFgV-000CmS-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:26:31 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f72AQVm09905 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:26:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:26:30 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I have backup up my old /usr/X11R6, is there an easy way to move my apps to XFree86-4? Or do I need to 'make reinstal' all of my X ports? jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 3:43: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ngmail.ngfl.dialnet.com (ngmail.ngfl.dialnet.com [212.44.44.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F7737B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ict@cardinalnewman.coventry.sch.uk) Received: from ngmfilt2.ngfl.dialnet.com [212.44.44.78] by ngmail.ngfl.dialnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id ADB5AD700042; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:38:45 +0100 Received: from firewall.cardinalnewman (unverified) by ngmfilt2.ngfl.dialnet.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:51:36 +0100 Received: from mail.cardinalnewman (mail.cardinalnewman [192.168.0.3]) by firewall.cardinalnewman (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72AhDo37007 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:43:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ict@cardinalnewman.coventry.sch.uk) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.cardinalnewman (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72AhDQ00407 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:43:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ict@cardinalnewman.coventry.sch.uk) Received: from cn086.cardinalnewman (ict@cn086.cardinalnewman [192.168.0.254]) by mail.cardinalnewman (8.11.3/8.11.3av) with SMTP id f72AhAa00399 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:43:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ict@cardinalnewman.coventry.sch.uk) Message-ID: <006701c11b3f$ebb0b2c0$fe00a8c0@cardinalnewman> From: "ict technician" To: Subject: UDMA related install failure Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:43:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I have a combination of hardware which will not install 4.3-RELEASE. This is cheap and nasty hardware so this is more of an FYI than anything else. I am using FreeBSD to roll out ghost images of Win95 so a fix is not critical. I thought it was worth posting because the install trashes the MBR, rendering the disk unbootable. Watch out upgraders. Hardware: pc-chips M748LMRT (xcel-2000) M/B Seagate ST36422A HDD Symptoms: Install fails to write MBR/disk labels and corrupts MBR Solution Use the Seagate UATA100 program to set the HDD to DMA 1 Disabling UDMA in the BIOS does not work. The HDD is fine in another M/B. The M/B is fine with another drive. These machines have run Windows for 2 years+. UDMA off in BIOS Setting hw.atamodes once the install is complete also works. BTW is there an official place to put the call to sysctl ? Interestingly part of the batch is okay, so bad firmware looks like a likely cause. Latest BIOS is installed. Seagate don't seem to have any firmware updates! The machines don't need to be on benches for a few weeks yet if anyone wants to take a stab at this. Nearly forgot. Ditto 4.2-RELEASE and 4.1.1-RELEASE. 3.5.1 doesn't support the network card. Here's the verbose dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 23:04:52 GMT 2001 ianjhart@alpha.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 367509674 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193213 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (367.50-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 31457280 (30720K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00473000 - 0x01df7fff, 26759168 bytes (6533 pages) avail memory = 26361856 (25744K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fdb50 bios32: Entry = 0xfdb60 (c00fdb60) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xdb81 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f7060 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:65b4 Rev = 1.0 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 00000000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc044d000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Creating DISK md0 Math emulator present pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=80] is there (id=06201039) pcib-: pcib0 exists, using next available unit number npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=80] is there (id=06201039) pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x0620, revid=0x02 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e8000000, size 26 found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x5513, revid=0xd0 class=01-01-8a, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 000001f0, size 3 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 000003f4, size 2 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 00000170, size 3 map[1c]: type 1, range 32, base 00000374, size 2 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ffa0, size 4 found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x0008, revid=0xb1 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x0009, revid=0x00 class=ff-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x7001, revid=0x11 class=0c-03-10, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=3 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base efffb000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x0001, revid=0x00 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=1 secondarybus=1 found-> vendor=0x13f6, dev=0x0111, revid=0x10 class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000de00, size 8 found-> vendor=0x1282, dev=0x9102, revid=0x20 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000dc00, size 7 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base efffaf80, size 7 pci0: on pcib0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 0 at device 0.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xffa0 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata0-master: ATA probe a=01 b=a5 ata0: devices=01 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xffa8 ata1: mask=03 status0=20 status1=30 ata1: mask=03 ostat0=20 ostat2=30 ata1-master: ATAPI probe a=20 b=20 ata1-slave: ATAPI probe a=30 b=30 ata1: mask=03 status0=20 status1=30 ata1-master: ATA probe a=25 b=25 ata1-slave: ATA probe a=25 b=25 ata1: devices=00 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 isab0: at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: (vendor=0x1039, dev=0x0009) at 1.1 ohci0: mem 0xefffb000-0xefffbfff irq 3 at device 1.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 2.0 on pci0 found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x6306, revid=0x2a class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e7000000, size 23 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base e7ef0000, size 16 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 0000cc00, size 7 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: (vendor=0x1039, dev=0x6306) at 0.0 pci0: (vendor=0x13f6, dev=0x0111) at 15.0 irq 10 dc0: port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem 0xefffaf80-0xefffafff irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:09:01:b0:a3 miibus0: on dc0 amphy0: on miibus0 amphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bpf: dc0 attached pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=80] is there (id=06201039) pci-: pci1 exists, using next available unit number pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 ex_isa_identify() ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata2 failed to probe at port 0x1f0 irq 14 on isa0 ata3 failed to probe at port 0x170 irq 15 on isa0 adv0 failed to probe at port 0x330 on isa0 bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x330 bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x334 bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x230 bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x234 bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x130 bt0: Failed Status Reg Test - ff bt_isa_probe: Probe failed at 0x134 bt0 failed to probe at port 0x134-0x137 on isa0 aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0: status reg test failed ff aha0 failed to probe at port 0x134-0x137 on isa0 aic0 failed to probe at port 0x140-0x15f on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x1, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: current command byte:0065 psm0: strange result for test aux port (1). psm0: failed to reset the aux device. vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 53 9f bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 9b 8d 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 53 9f bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9b 8d 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 53 9f bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9b 8d 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) pcic0 failed to probe at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic1: not probed (disabled) sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: irq maps: 0x41 0x41 0x41 0x41 sio1: probe failed test(s): 0 1 2 4 6 7 9 sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio2: not probed (disabled) sio3: not probed (disabled) ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0: using extended I/O port range ppc0: SPP ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 bpf: lp0 attached lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ed0 failed to probe at port 0x280-0x29f iomem 0xd8000 irq 10 on isa0 fe0 failed to probe at port 0x300-0x31f on isa0 ie0 failed to probe at port 0x300 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0 lnc0 failed to probe at port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 on isa0 cs0 failed to probe at port 0x300-0x31f on isa0 sn0 failed to probe at port 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa0 isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices BIOS Geometries: 0:0308fe3f 0..776=777 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. bpf: faith0 attached bpf: gif0 attached bpf: gif1 attached bpf: gif2 attached bpf: gif3 attached bpf: lo0 attached bpf: ppp0 attached new masks: bio 68c048, tty 630092, net 670892 bpf: sl0 attached ata0-master: success setting UDMA2 on SiS chip Creating DISK ad0 Creating DISK wd0 ad0: ATA-4 disk at ata0-master ad0: 6103MB (12500460 sectors), 13228 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA33 ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 cblid=0 ad0: 6103MB [13228/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a ad0s1: type 0xb, start 63, end = 4192964, size 4192902 : OK ad0s2: type 0xa5, start 4192965, end = 12498569, size 8305605 : OK start_init: trying /sbin/init ata0-master: success setting PIO4 on generic chip -- i j hart ICT Technician Cardinal Newman Catholic School & Community College ict@cardinalnewman.coventry.sch.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 3:48:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1487137B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:48:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010802104812.FMVS27280.femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:48:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 06:48:42 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Bridge? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. -- Ted Sikora tsikora@ntplx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6: 7:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5707137B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: from strontium.shef.vinosystems.com ([192.168.91.36] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15SHOb-000KhX-00; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:16:09 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.shef.vinosystems.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f72CG9s51561; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:16:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: strontium.shef.vinosystems.com: ben set sender to ben@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:16:09 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Joseph Anthony Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bugs Message-ID: <20010802131609.Y47792@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com> References: <00ee01c11b13$7d12d7c0$059b140a@dan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.smithurst.org/ben/pgp-key.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joseph Anthony wrote: > Could the list owner put stable@freebsd.org as a reply-to? No. Don't even go there. This has come up many times, presumably by people who don't understand why it's a bad idea, and I'm fairly sure it will never happen. --=20 Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power To Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aUSHbPzJ+yzvRCwRAko8AKCJCQmo70t1oEx6PBOvR1zaxxi3pgCdGXQy XX6JTCxNi3hu3P5c8SaELGU= =Zv88 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6:28: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4FA37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.5/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72DRuj59781 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:27:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:27:56 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Subject: oh my god ... again, no diskless boot ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. Well, yesterday I ran into trouble after installing the newest sources of FBSD 4.3-STABLE. We lost our diskless X-terminals because they won't boot after that update. Yesterday night I copied /etc/ of the diskless root from etc.bak back to etc and was wondering that all X terminals booted again. Today, I did a cvsupdate again and I read to late that the code is in a kind of 'wobbing' status (slushy or something else, don't care). All of our servers running FBSD 4.3-STABEL run stable and offered nothing suspicious until now. Only the diskless systems crashes - and the kind of crashing is funny! After powering the terminal on it searches for its DHCP (isc-dhcp2), it finds it and then I see the status message when the kernel gets loaded (rotating slash and several hex numbers). But this is to short to watch, immediately after that I see a lot of squared pixels, flashing, nice coloured and remembers me to the time of the C64. It seems that the graphical interface or/and the whole system crashes immediately after trying to start the kernel. Technical data: Our diskless terminals use a AMD K7-DURON 700 MHz, a DFI AK74-EC motherboard, 64 MB PC133-3 RAM, a Intel EtherExpress 100+ NIC and a GigaByte GA660+ Riva TNT2 based graphics accelerator. The terminals boot via PXE/DHCP. I write this message from another terminal I was working from this morning on and loaded with the old kernel. Can anyone tell my what happened to the diskless stuff? Why are the diskless systems involved? The only difference is that they use MFS (all other servers do not use MFS due to the fact that in the past MFS produces on SMP systems many harsh problems). Thanks, oliver -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6:34:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1939537B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72DQqp27876; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:26:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72DQqC00391; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:26:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f72DQpA29519; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:26:50 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QDYH3YBW; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:26:44 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:26:37 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I found that pkg_delete -a and make install of all necessary ports is an extremely healthy activity as it removes a extremely big load of crap (read: useless/unused software). Just reinstall it all. You probably don't need that much anyways. ;) For the record, I don't any easy way. A. j mckitrick wrote: > If I have backup up my old /usr/X11R6, is there an easy way to move my apps > to XFree86-4? Or do I need to 'make reinstal' all of my X ports? > > jm > -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6:35:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD8637B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:35:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15SIdR-000Mcp-00; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:35:33 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f72DZWO11234; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:35:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:35:32 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:26:37AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:26:37AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: | I found that pkg_delete -a and make install of all necessary ports is an | extremely healthy activity as it removes a extremely big load of crap | (read: useless/unused software). | | Just reinstall it all. You probably don't need that much anyways. ;) Any caveats I should look out for moving to version 4? | | For the record, I don't any easy way. | | A. | | j mckitrick wrote: | > If I have backup up my old /usr/X11R6, is there an easy way to move my apps | > to XFree86-4? Or do I need to 'make reinstal' all of my X ports? | > | > jm | > | | | -- | Antoine Beaupré | Jambala TCM team | Ericsson Canada inc. | mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6:36:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.227.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBC237B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avatar+july2001@kew.com) Received: from xena (xena.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.148]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EC2D1554D; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004501c11b58$1bd747d0$94cba8c0@xena> From: "Drew Derbyshire" To: , "Jordan Hubbard" Cc: References: <200108012312.JAA00237@tungsten.austclear.com.au> <20010801173551B.jkh@freebsd.org> Subject: OT: the lucky country (drfted from Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems!) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:36:17 -0400 Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks (http://www.kew.com/kendra) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jordan Hubbard" > From: Tony Landells > > But then, they do say that Australia is "the lucky country" ;-) > > Yeah, you got all the convicts. We got all the puritans. Only for the original BETA releases. Both have gotten the usual feature creep and dilution of external influences since then. Otherwise, there is no way *I* could be living within 45 miles of Plymouth Rock. :-) -ahd- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6:39:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fijfi.mirrorimage.net (fijfi.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03D737B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuck@fijfi.mirrorimage.net) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fijfi.mirrorimage.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72DbvO98221; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:37:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuck) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:37:57 -0400 From: Chuck MacKinnon To: "Dan O'Connor" Cc: Andrey Lykhin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Derek C." Subject: Re: bugs Message-ID: <20010802093757.J89038@mirror-image.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801220725.03833768@mail.blarg.net> <00ee01c11b13$7d12d7c0$059b140a@dan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00ee01c11b13$7d12d7c0$059b140a@dan>; from dan@mostgraveconcern.com on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:25:02PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I love procmail. Only 1 copy here ;) On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:25:02PM -0700 or thereabouts, Dan O'Connor wrote: > > Any reason you feel the need to send this 3 times? > > I got 14 copies. > > --Dan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Chuck MacKinnon v: 781-376-1121 Systems Administrator f: 781-376-1110 Mirror Image Internet e: chuck@mirror-image.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6:40:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB90737B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:39:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72DdgD02987; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72DdfX11650; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 7218666; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:39:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3B69581D.B40756E@mitre.org> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:39:41 -0400 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Schweizer Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Telnet References: <3B3A719B@webmail.swiss-web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Schweizer wrote: > > Hello Jason > > >===== Original Message From Jason Andresen ===== > >> I would connect to my shell machine at otaku.freeshell.org. If I use telnet > >> from Win9x/WinNT/Win2k I've no problem to access. If I use telnet from > >> FreeBSD4.3 I can't correct steering my shell (some keys won't functions). I > >> changed also the TERM variable to vt100 without success (in this case the > >> command line from FreeBSD ist verry strange). What I doing wrong? > >> Thank you in advance. > > >How are you using telnet from the FreeBSD machine? Are you on the > >console > ... at the console > > >or are you in an xterm? > ... no, perhaps later > > The PC Console isn't a very good VT100 > >emulator, > >you need to use a mode like "pc-cons" or "pc-ansi" or "ansi" or "cons25" > >or "pccons" or whatever the remote system actually has for PC consoles. > In default FreeBSD uses cons25. If I use TERM=vt100 then I can not use all > keys and the screen has some strange caracters. > > >XTerms in general are halfway decent VT100 emulators, but using "xterm" > >is even better. > I will test it. > > >Windows telnet is a terrible emulator, but if you consider it to work > >with > >"no problems" as a vt100 terminal, then you should have no problem > >getting > >equivelent functionality out of FreeBSD with the right term variable. > Which is your prefered TERM variable for telnet access? Unfortunatly it takes a bit of experimentation if the remote system is not FreeBSD based. If it is a FreeBSD system, try setting TERM to whatever the local terminal is set for (assuming all of the keys work on the local terminal). -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 6:57: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F2437B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72DuaB77486 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:56:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:56:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, j mckitrick wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:26:37AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > | I found that pkg_delete -a and make install of all necessary ports is an > | extremely healthy activity as it removes a extremely big load of crap > | (read: useless/unused software). > | > | Just reinstall it all. You probably don't need that much anyways. ;) > > Any caveats I should look out for moving to version 4? Yeah. You need to find a copy of Wraphelp.c to use the XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 xauth protocol. Although, IIUC, the export issue is no longer valid (this protocol uses DES), Wraphelp.c, which contains the implementation, is not distributed with the X sources. Fortunately, it's pretty easy to find a copy. :-) You should also back up /etc/X11 while you're at it. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 7: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA63037B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5att.ericy.com [138.85.92.13]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72Dpt526556; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:51:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72DptC04961; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:51:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f72DpsA00897; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:51:53 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QDYH3YLM; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:51:47 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:51:42 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not all graphic cards are compatible. Apart from that, I had no problems. Oh, and say goodbye to your lovely XF86Setup. It's gone. that really sucks. I had problems configuring my video card/screen combo because of that. A. j mckitrick wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:26:37AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > | I found that pkg_delete -a and make install of all necessary ports is an > | extremely healthy activity as it removes a extremely big load of crap > | (read: useless/unused software). > | > | Just reinstall it all. You probably don't need that much anyways. ;) > > Any caveats I should look out for moving to version 4? > > | > | For the record, I don't any easy way. > | > | A. > | > | j mckitrick wrote: > | > If I have backup up my old /usr/X11R6, is there an easy way to move my apps > | > to XFree86-4? Or do I need to 'make reinstal' all of my X ports? > | > > | > jm > | > > | > | > | -- > | Antoine Beaupré > | Jambala TCM team > | Ericsson Canada inc. > | mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca > > > jm > -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 7: 3: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EC137B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15SJ3y-000Nf6-00; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:02:58 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f72E2wA11503; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:02:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:02:57 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802150257.A11372@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:51:42AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:51:42AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: | Not all graphic cards are compatible. | | Apart from that, I had no problems. | | Oh, and say goodbye to your lovely XF86Setup. It's gone. that really | sucks. I had problems configuring my video card/screen combo because of | that. Other than modular design and some new cards supported, what is the advantage, if any? My card is supported in both 3.3.6 and 4.x. | | A. | | j mckitrick wrote: | > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:26:37AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: | > | I found that pkg_delete -a and make install of all necessary ports is an | > | extremely healthy activity as it removes a extremely big load of crap | > | (read: useless/unused software). | > | | > | Just reinstall it all. You probably don't need that much anyways. ;) | > | > Any caveats I should look out for moving to version 4? | > | > | | > | For the record, I don't any easy way. | > | | > | A. | > | | > | j mckitrick wrote: | > | > If I have backup up my old /usr/X11R6, is there an easy way to move my apps | > | > to XFree86-4? Or do I need to 'make reinstal' all of my X ports? | > | > | > | > jm | > | > | > | | > | | > | -- | > | Antoine Beaupré | > | Jambala TCM team | > | Ericsson Canada inc. | > | mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca | > | > | > jm | > | | | -- | Antoine Beaupré | Jambala TCM team | Ericsson Canada inc. | mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 7:27:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F394D37B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:27:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from hilfy.ece.cmu.edu (HILFY.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.133]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f72EJPe04182; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:19:23 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: j mckitrick , "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <0.996761962@hilfy.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20010802150257.A11372@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802150257.A11372@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0b3 (SunOS/SPARC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, August 02, 2001 15:02:57 +0100, j mckitrick wrote: +----- | Other than modular design and some new cards supported, what is the | advantage, if any? My card is supported in both 3.3.6 and 4.x. +--->8 Hardware OpenGL support for some cards. Also, some annoying bugs have been fixed; for example, NumLock is no longer passed on to programs as "mod5", so your window manager bindings won't all disappear when numlock is on any more :) -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [JAPH][WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [linux: proof of the million monkeys theory] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 7:28:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC00537B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: (qmail 96690 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2001 14:40:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO geekland) (151.201.71.193) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2001 14:40:10 -0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:27:52 -0400 Message-ID: <01C11B3D.C95DB080.wmoran@iowna.com> From: Bill Moran To: 'Monica Shin' , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:27:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You're contacting the wrong people. If bsdvault decides to archive this mailing list, that's their decision, and not the decision of the list owners. Also, considering this is a public list, I seriously doubt if you friend has any recourse against this anyway. If your friend wants to play with various legal actions, I doubt he'll get anywhere useful. HOWEVER, you may want to try contacting bsdvault and ask them to remove the specific posting, they may be happy to do so. You may want to tell your friend not to post to public mailing lists if he doesn't want to see his posts publicised on various sites. You may also want to tell him to make sure his emails contain a statement of such reservation whenever he sends email anywhere. You may also want to tell him to seek out the other sites that archive the list, as bsdvault isn't the only one. Standard disclaimer applys: I'm not a lawyer so nothing I say is legal advice. It's just my (officially) non-professional opinion. -Bill On Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:15 PM, Monica Shin [SMTP:monicashin123@hotmail.com] wrote: > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a friend > of mine contacted me regarding the posting of his "signed" email that was, I > believe, exchanged in freebsd-stable forum sometime ago, without his written > consent. As of now, I don't know the details of the policy and rules one > has to agree and sign before becoming a member to the freebsd-stable list > server but he is very upset and serious about this matter. The link is > given below. > > http://www.bsdvault.net/article.php?sid=298&mode=thread&order=0 > > He has asked me regarding the procedures of the law in dealing with such > matters and agreed to resolve this matter in peaceful manner should it be > possible. Should he pursue to go on with a law suit, he has all the rights > to ask for any damages to his honor that has occured or should occur in > whatever form should it be by email or any of the means; he has the rights > to restitution for any misuses and damages to his intellectual property (the > message is signed), the party in operation of www.bsdvault.net. To make it > even worse, he has the rights to ask for the shutdown of the > www.bsdvault.net operation should the Defense loses the case. Whoever is in > charge of the operation of the website, www.bsdvault.net, should take this > matter seriously and take any means of actions necessary in timely manner to > prevent any unnecessary actions that may or may not follow from taking. > > > Regards, > Monica Shin, > Wdenesday, August 1, 2001. > > Mr. Cho has resigned from freebsd-stable mailing list for this matter. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 7:43:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from naboo.ethz.ch (naboo.ethz.ch [129.132.17.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B9D37B414 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:42:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlo@vis.ethz.ch) Received: by naboo.ethz.ch (Postfix, from userid 224) id 79471275BA; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:42:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Fat kernel, needs dieting (again :-) To: matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org (Makoto MATSUSHITA) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:42:42 +0200 (CEST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010802094921N.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> from "Makoto MATSUSHITA" at Aug 02, 2001 09:49:21 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010802144242.79471275BA@naboo.ethz.ch> From: carlo@vis.ethz.ch (Carlo Dapor) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The other day a guy (sorry I forgot who) says that > > 1) /boot/boot1 and /boot/boot2 can be safely removed, since these are > not used. It brings us about 8kbytes. > 2) /boot/loader can be kgzip(1)ed. It brings us about (approx.) 60kbytes. > > Hack 1) is already committed into 5-current so it's safe to do. Hack > 2) is not yet commited to any branches, but I've tested with recent > 4-stable and 5-current and it works fine. And top(1) just works fine ? When I gzip(1)ed kernels in the past, everything worked just fine, except for top(1) and IIRC ps, which could not access some structure - sorry for being very vague here, it has been some time. Ciao, derweil, -- Carlo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 7:58:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57A137B407 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ivana.belgers@surfnet.nl) Received: from zuurtje.surfnet.nl ([192.87.109.5]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) id 15SJw5-0005aK-00; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:58:53 +0200 Received: from surfnet.nl (secans.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.62]) by zuurtje.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/ZUURTJE-0.8) with ESMTP id QAA28353; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:58:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B696AAD.958FB9E@surfnet.nl> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:58:53 +0200 From: Ivana Belgers-van Overmeeren Organization: SURFnet bv X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: Dutch, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Monica Shin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To all -stable readers: sorry, it's off topic, but I just couldn't resist... Monica Shin wrote: > > I'm sorry if you are reading this. I'm a law student at University of > Washington (Seattle, WA). This morning, Wednesday, August 1, 2001, a friend > of mine contacted me regarding the posting of his "signed" email that was, I What do you mean by "sigend" email? I saw another e-mail of him, with only his name and department underneath, so I guess the posting of your friend is posted as-is, with a name and a department as 'signature'. This is not considered a "signature" in my country, how can you ever prove that this posting really did come from your friend? I can "sign" this e-mail message exactly the same way as your friend did, does that make it a message from your friend? Only PGP/GPG/S-Mime signatures could prove some authenticity and it depends on your law if this is even considered "legel". Cheers, Ivana Belgers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 8: 4:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4645337B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:03:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05574; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:53:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:53:50 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: "Derek C." Cc: Andrey Lykhin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bugs Message-ID: <20010802075350.B4105@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <996727130@p31.f68.n5090.z2.FidoNet.ftn> <5.1.0.14.0.20010801220725.03833768@mail.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010801220725.03833768@mail.blarg.net>; from coffee@blarg.net on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:07:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:07:36PM -0700, Derek C. wrote: > Any reason you feel the need to send this 3 times? And counting... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 8:15:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F5F37B40A for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72F6rD18532; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72F6qX28990; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 7221281; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:06:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3B696C8A.4B41A9F1@mitre.org> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:06:50 -0400 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j mckitrick Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802150257.A11372@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG j mckitrick wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:51:42AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > | Not all graphic cards are compatible. > | > | Apart from that, I had no problems. > | > | Oh, and say goodbye to your lovely XF86Setup. It's gone. that really > | sucks. I had problems configuring my video card/screen combo because of > | that. > > Other than modular design and some new cards supported, what is the > advantage, if any? My card is supported in both 3.3.6 and 4.x. Vastly improved 2d performance on some cards. Playing MPGs in 3.3.6 used to leave me with something like mtvp (this was some time ago) eating 30% of the CPU and X eating the other 70% (for an occasionally choppy picture). Now I routinely run stuff full screen and X is hardly even a factor in the CPU calculation. Xpilot is actually _smooth_ under XFree 4, whereas it was a bit choppy inder 3.x. Also, the 3D accelleration actually works (I have a Matrox G200 card). I never managed to get it working with the seperate glx driver, but that was probably just me. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 8:35:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251E537B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72FWOa14500; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: sncho@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010802042528.58488.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010802042528.58488.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010802083224B.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:32:24 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Sung N. Cho" Subject: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:25:28 -0700 (PDT) > And, Mr. Jordan, I'm sorry for this message. I just > wanted to clarify things a little. Sigh. This is simply one clarification too many, and having your friend Monica come in here yesterday with talk of legal action was really the last straw. We've now spent a full week going around and around with you and Monica and god-only-knows who else next, and none of it has had ANYTHING to do with FreeBSD-stable, which is what this list is supposed to be dedicated to discussing. I am hereby serving you with official notice that you are banned for life from all FreeBSD mailing lists and will have a block added against your yahoo.com account and any others you may use. You will also be removed from all mailing lists and not allowed to resubscribe. This isn't a game, but some people seem to be treating it as such by continuously SPAMMING the freebsd-stable mailing list with inappropriate material under what has been a variety of pretexts. Enough is enough! This ends now. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 8:42: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f47.hotmail.com [216.32.181.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1258337B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:42:01 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:42:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org, Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:42:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2001 15:42:01.0979 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC540CB0:01C11B69] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Shouldn't the user just have the option of installing either XFree86 3.3.6 or v4.1.0?? Keep both available just in case but you can v4.1.0 as the primary supported X server?? I would think most users just want to use the latest KDE and GNOME successfully on their desktops or use Xfree v4.1.0. We can discuss this but I notice many users trying to install Xfree86 4.1.0 on the STABLE releases. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 8:44:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0448B37B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72FbOp28048; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:37:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72FbOC29808; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:37:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f72FbNA07975; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:37:22 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QDYH3Z01; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:37:18 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B6973A8.8030407@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:37:12 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802150257.A11372@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG j mckitrick wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:51:42AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > | Not all graphic cards are compatible. > | > | Apart from that, I had no problems. > | > | Oh, and say goodbye to your lovely XF86Setup. It's gone. that really > | sucks. I had problems configuring my video card/screen combo because of > | that. > > Other than modular design and some new cards supported, what is the > advantage, if any? My card is supported in both 3.3.6 and 4.x. Warning: this is clearly subjective. I haven't run any benchmark of any kind. Some parts are clearly faster. Login from xdm takes much less time, and it seems to me that this is an advantage. :) X does take more memory here, though, IIRC the mem usage from the previous version... The xdm banner looks cute. :) Eh, I just used it for a week. :) A. -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 9: 3:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4441237B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f72G3q0m014713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) id f72G3pli014710; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:03:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15209.31207.763369.376076@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:03:51 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Patrik Sundberg Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: creating releases In-Reply-To: <20010802115244.A60577@radiac.mine.nu> References: <20010802115244.A60577@radiac.mine.nu> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.5 (beta1) "anise" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ps> I need to create my own releases of FreeBSD stable (+ some additions ps> for my product), including CD's and the works. I have some problems ps> with make release in /usr/src/release and wonder if someone could give ps> or point me to some steps on how to do this the correct way? Here is my 'makecd' script I use to create a release CD. See the comments at the bottom regarding make release. #!/bin/sh ### makecd --- Create a bootable FreeBSD install CD ## Author: Gregory Neil Shapiro # Error exit EX_UNAVAILABLE=69 # FreeBSD release area rel=/src/FreeBSD/release/R # Boot blocks boot=floppies/boot.flp # CD-ROM root dir=cdrom/disc1 # Move into the area cd ${rel} || exit ${EX_UNAVAILABLE} # Read CD_VERSION from cdrom.inf if [ ! -f ${dir}/cdrom.inf ] then echo "$0: ${dir}/cdrom.inf missing" exit ${EX_UNAVAILABLE} fi read version < ${dir}/cdrom.inf cd_version=${version##CD_VERSION = } if [ "${cd_version}" = "" ] then echo "$0: cd_version not defined" exit ${EX_UNAVAILABLE} fi # CD Parameters appid="FreeBSD ${cd_version}" pubid="Gregory Neil Shapiro " # Where to save the backup iso=/extra/gshapiro/FreeBSD.iso # Create the ISO file /usr/local/bin/mkisofs -A "${appid}" -P "${pubid}" -p "${pubid}" \ -o ${iso} -b ${boot} -R -J ${dir} # Other useful commands: # # Make a release: # # make release CHROOTDIR=/src/FreeBSD/release \ # BUILDNAME=4.3-STABLE-2001-08-02 \ # CVSROOT=/src/FreeBSD/cvsrepo RELEASETAG=RELENG_4 \ # NODOC=YES NOPORTS=YES ALLLANG=no NOPORTREADMES=YES NOSRC=YES # # To mount/umount the ISO image: # vnconfig /dev/vn0c /extra/gshapiro/FreeBSD.iso # mount -r -t cd9660 /dev/vn0c /mnt # ... # umount /mnt # vnconfig -u /dev/vn0c # # To burn the ISO file to a CD: # cdrecord dev=0,5,0 speed=8 /extra/gshapiro/FreeBSD.iso To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 9:33:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DB337B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.159]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010802163309.RFJH12480.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:33:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3B697F99.D179CA84@home.com> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:28:09 -0400 From: Ted Sikora X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Bridge? References: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Sikora wrote: > > I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. > That was it. I guess the Bridge option is needed with cable and dsl modems. -- Ted Sikora tsikora@ntplx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 9:45:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.belenus.com (ns.belenus.com [195.27.12.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209EB37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:45:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from H.Schmalzbauer@belenus.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns.belenus.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f72Gjc610110 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org.KAV; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:45:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from H.Schmalzbauer@belenus.com) Received: from server02.belenus.com (server02.belenus.com [195.27.12.126]) by ns.belenus.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72Gjcg10102 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:45:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from H.Schmalzbauer@belenus.com) Received: by server02.belenus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:45:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Schmalzbauer, Harald" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: pthreads bug? Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:45:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.belenus.com id f72Gjcg10102 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hallo all, from http://news.gnome.org/996675873/ I read: "Chris Toshok, one of the Evolution developers, used to develop on FreeBSD up until a few weeks ago because of a bug in FreeBSD's pthreads implementation that caused problems. So you see, this isn't a fault of Evolution, it's a fault of FreeBSD." Redradibly I'm no programmer so I don't know anything about "pthreads". I'd like to know if this is a known bug and if so when this could be fixed. Or is this statment nonsens? Thank you, -Harry belenus GmbH Harald Schmalzbauer IT-Engineer Tel: +49 (89) 21979-120 Fax: +49 (89) 21979-111 www.belenus.com _____________________ / Am Fenster rumhängen? / Als Pinguin abtauchen? / Rennen wie der Teufel? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 9:46: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2063F37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f72Gdmm04076; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:51:42 EDT." <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:39:48 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:51:42 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Not all graphic cards are compatible. If I am to believe the XFree86 device support web page for V4.1, all devices which had support in 3.3.6 are supported in 4.1 with the exception of the nVidia 1 based cards. I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 9:58: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx2.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B4037B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams [134.2.12.50]) by mx2.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7FC1062; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:57:45 +0200 (MST) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72Gvho39507; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:57:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sperber) To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Continuing ahc problems - also cause fxp failure References: <200107312001.f6VK1LI38284@aslan.scsiguy.com> From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Date: 02 Aug 2001 18:57:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200107312001.f6VK1LI38284@aslan.scsiguy.com> ("Justin T. Gibbs"'s message of "Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:01:21 -0600") Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) XEmacs/21.5 (anise) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Justin" == Justin T Gibbs writes: >> I see an identical problem with and without this diff applied on an >> ASUS motherboard with onboard SCSI. No onboard Ethernet. Justin> Your problem is actually quite different. In your case, the timeout Justin> occurs in a data-out phase and the chips status tells us: Justin> 1) The target still has us in data phase. Justin> 2) SCSI dma is still enabled. Justin> 3) Our data fifo is full of data to send on the SCSI bus, Justin> but its not going anywhere. Justin> So, the aic7890 believes that the target has stopped requesting Justin> more data, but we still haven't changed phase. This is the classic Justin> symptom of a flaky bus where the signals for clocking data are Justin> degraded. The target probably didn't see one or more of the controller's Justin> ACKs, so we are stuck. Double check your termination, cabling, power Justin> supply, etc, etc. Thanks for the comments. I just checked once again, and everything seems to be in order. I decided to ax the active terminator and run in S/E mode which has been working fine for >24h. Crossing my fingers ... -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10: 2:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E08E37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15SLrZ-000Kbs-00; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:02:21 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f72H2KP12698; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:02:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:02:20 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Kevin Oberman Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:39:48AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and | go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) If this were done, there would need to be some kind of similar 'hand-holding' utility to help setting up the config files. jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:15:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AC837B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id NAA22964; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:14:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen To: "Schmalzbauer, Harald" Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: pthreads bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Schmalzbauer, Harald wrote: > Hallo all, > > from http://news.gnome.org/996675873/ I read: > > "Chris Toshok, one of the Evolution developers, used to develop on FreeBSD > up until a few weeks ago because of a bug in FreeBSD's pthreads > implementation that caused problems. So you see, this isn't a fault of > Evolution, it's a fault of FreeBSD." > > Redradibly I'm no programmer so I don't know anything about "pthreads". I'd > like to know if this is a known bug and if so when this could be fixed. > Or is this statment nonsens? There's probably bugs lingering in most of our code somewhere, userland and kernel. I think I'll stop developing for FreeBSD and try another OS. Seriously, what bug? There doesn't seem to be a PR from Toshok in our GNATS PR system. I don't recall seeing anything from him in the mailing lists. Perhaps if I knew where he lived I could have a better chance of homing in on his brainwaves; I'm just a beginner at this mind-reading thing. -- Dan Eischen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:19:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-80.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E3F37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:19:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D160466D5B; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:19:29 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Carlo Dapor Cc: Makoto MATSUSHITA , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fat kernel, needs dieting (again :-) Message-ID: <20010802101929.C1231@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010802094921N.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20010802144242.79471275BA@naboo.ethz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010802144242.79471275BA@naboo.ethz.ch>; from carlo@vis.ethz.ch on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 04:42:42PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 04:42:42PM +0200, Carlo Dapor wrote: > > The other day a guy (sorry I forgot who) says that > >=20 > > 1) /boot/boot1 and /boot/boot2 can be safely removed, since these are > > not used. It brings us about 8kbytes. > > 2) /boot/loader can be kgzip(1)ed. It brings us about (approx.) 60kbyte= s. > >=20 > > Hack 1) is already committed into 5-current so it's safe to do. Hack > > 2) is not yet commited to any branches, but I've tested with recent > > 4-stable and 5-current and it works fine. >=20 > And top(1) just works fine ? When I gzip(1)ed kernels in the past, every= thing > worked just fine, except for top(1) and IIRC ps, which could not access s= ome > structure - sorry for being very vague here, it has been some time. That probably was because you weren't loading them through the loader. See the FAQ. Kris --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aYugWry0BWjoQKURAjFoAJwOTvqYuHb69G10UPA1mntf+CrxcACfYKZi 0Jl4SaL7b6WxEesLETWOTLc= =ae4Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:22: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027C337B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (localhost.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 099DCBABD; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:22:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <014601c11b77$677789b0$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "j mckitrick" Cc: References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:20:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a very good one. XFree86 -configure Must be run as root and it will create an XF86Config.new file in the current directory. It is an excellent starting script and I haven't seen it fail yet. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "j mckitrick" To: "Kevin Oberman" Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" ; Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > | I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and > | go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) > > If this were done, there would need to be some kind of similar > 'hand-holding' utility to help setting up the config files. > > > > jm > -- > "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion > was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck > by a missile." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:24: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from forkbomb.martini.nu (forkbomb.martini.nu [204.118.247.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92C5D37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:23:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reich@forkbomb.martini.nu) Received: (qmail 67968 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Aug 2001 17:23:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:23:41 -0700 From: Mahlon Smith To: modaya72@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache Log question! Message-ID: <20010802102341.A65352@internetcds.com> References: <3B673784.11969509@whistle.com> <3B686488.6FF5FCFE@eboa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B686488.6FF5FCFE@eboa.com>; from "roelof@eboa.com" on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:20:24PM Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why wouldn't you just use the tools already available on your system? % cat /etc/newsyslog.conf # Rotate and compress web logs at 10 megs, compress, and HUP apache. # Keep 15 old logs around. /var/log/httpd.log 644 15 10000 * Z /var/run/httpd.pid 1 Also, this really should have gone to freebsd-questions. -- Mahlon Smith System Administrator InternetCDS http://www.internetcds.com On Wed, Aug 01, 2001, Roelof Osinga wrote: > Evan Oldford wrote: > > > > Kashyap Kumar wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Can anybody help me to rotate my apache logs in /var/log directory. How can > > > I do that with syslog? > > > > > > help very much appriciated > > > > > > /mn > > > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/rotatelogs.php has a great example... > > Take a look at .../ports/sysutils/cronolog, does a nice job although > it keeps a lot of processes around. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:38:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA33037B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:38:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f72Hcka13159 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05262 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:38:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 1087 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Aug 2001 17:37:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:37:42 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Kevin Oberman Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802193741.A1026@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Kevin Oberman , "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:39:48AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" > > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:51:42 -0400 > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Not all graphic cards are compatible. > > If I am to believe the XFree86 device support web page for V4.1, all > devices which had support in 3.3.6 are supported in 4.1 with the > exception of the nVidia 1 based cards. No, according to that page ( http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status.html ) there are several older cards that are supported in 3.3.6 but not in 4.1.0 On the other hand some of the newer cards are only supported in 4.1.0 but not in 3.3.6. > > I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and > go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) Maybe. Either way some people will have graphic cards that are not supported. If you go with 3.3.6 the people affected will primarily be those with new, state-of-the-art cards. (GeForce3 cards come to mind.) With 4.1.0 the people losing are those with somewhat older computers. The best solution is probably to include both 3.3.6 and 4.1.0 and give users the option to choose which one they want to install. (This is of course the option which requires the most work for everybody involved :-\ ) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:43:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601F737B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se (mr7att.ericy.com [138.85.92.15]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72HZK526065; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:35:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72HZJh16790; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:35:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f72HZIA14233; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:35:17 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QDYH3641; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:35:11 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:35:05 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <014601c11b77$677789b0$3028680a@tgt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as "what resolution do you want". :) I had a big pain configuring my machine to run on 800x600 instead of 640x480. I had to dig out my old mode lines from my old config to make it work. :( Ouch. I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. A. Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > There is a very good one. > > XFree86 -configure > > Must be run as root and it will create an XF86Config.new file in the current > directory. It is an excellent starting script and I haven't seen it fail > yet. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@veldy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "j mckitrick" > To: "Kevin Oberman" > Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" ; > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:02 PM > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > >>| I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and >>| go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) >> >>If this were done, there would need to be some kind of similar >>'hand-holding' utility to help setting up the config files. >> >> >> >>jm >>-- >>"Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion >>was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck >>by a missile." >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:46:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB4837B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:46:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15SMYD-000LjB-00; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:46:25 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f72HkPJ12996; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:46:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:46:24 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802184624.A12923@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <014601c11b77$677789b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | I had a big pain configuring my machine to run on 800x600 instead of | 640x480. I had to dig out my old mode lines from my old config to make | it work. :( Funny you should say that. When I started out with Linux, I tried Mandrake, RedHat, and TurboLinux. Turbo was the only one that got my XF86Config right. I just kept it on a floppy, and copied it over everytime I tried a different flavor, or reinstalled because of FS corruption. ;-) jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:48:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557C237B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (localhost.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DBBFBABC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:48:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <015f01c11b7b$0b2cd760$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: "j mckitrick" , References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <014601c11b77$677789b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:46:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Then use xf86config and create a file. Use the combination of outputs from these two programs to get all the config options you want. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: "j mckitrick" ; Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > "what resolution do you want". :) > > I had a big pain configuring my machine to run on 800x600 instead of > 640x480. I had to dig out my old mode lines from my old config to make > it work. :( > > Ouch. > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. > > A. > > Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > There is a very good one. > > > > XFree86 -configure > > > > Must be run as root and it will create an XF86Config.new file in the current > > directory. It is an excellent starting script and I haven't seen it fail > > yet. > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > veldy@veldy.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "j mckitrick" > > To: "Kevin Oberman" > > Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" ; > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:02 PM > > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > > > > > >>| I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and > >>| go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) > >> > >>If this were done, there would need to be some kind of similar > >>'hand-holding' utility to help setting up the config files. > >> > >> > >> > >>jm > >>-- > >>"Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion > >>was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck > >>by a missile." > >> > >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > Antoine Beaupré > Jambala TCM team > Ericsson Canada inc. > mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 10:51:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep13-int.chello.nl (unknown [213.46.243.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E5E37B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org ([62.163.96.180]) by amsfep13-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20010802174812.LLLZ24832.amsfep13-int.chello.nl@daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org>; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:48:12 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72Hh7Y62007; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:43:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:43:06 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Mario Doria Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change to Bind 9 Message-ID: <20010802194305.G65558@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <007101c11b07$be54e400$0a00a8c0@valk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007101c11b07$be54e400$0a00a8c0@valk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [You are bound to get more response if you email the BIND maintainer(s) in FreeBSD directly, in this case, myself and Doug Barton] -On [20010802 06:30], Mario Doria (mariodoria@yahoo.com) wrote: >When is FBSD moving to use the BIND9 server instead of BIND8? Soon. Doug and me are discussing this for importing it in the coming weeks. It will be in CURRENT only for now. And previous versions of BIND 9 were definately not suited for import in any version. At least BIND 8 has/had proven functionality. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|freebsd.org|xmach.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder, finger asmodai@ninth-circle.dnsalias.net http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ We must believe in ourselves and in our dreams. For all is not lost. We have only to stand straight and tall, knowing ourselves to be no less than those who came before us. And we must never loose hope, never, never, never . . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11: 5: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vault12.wastelandranger.org (cn-237-242.dsl.stwr.brightok.net [205.162.237.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C914937B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:05:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) Received: from localhost (jga@localhost) by vault12.wastelandranger.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72HsO113741; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:54:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vault12.wastelandranger.org: jga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:54:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Joseph Anthony Reply-To: Joseph Anthony To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , j mckitrick , Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, but it works great. And it you want to tune your video, use xvidtune to generate your resolution line for XF86Config. On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:35:05 -0400 > From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" > To: Thomas T. Veldhouse > Cc: j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > "what resolution do you want". :) > > I had a big pain configuring my machine to run on 800x600 instead of > 640x480. I had to dig out my old mode lines from my old config to make > it work. :( > > Ouch. > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. > > A. > > Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > There is a very good one. > > > > XFree86 -configure > > > > Must be run as root and it will create an XF86Config.new file in the cu= rrent > > directory. It is an excellent starting script and I haven't seen it fa= il > > yet. > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > veldy@veldy.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "j mckitrick" > > To: "Kevin Oberman" > > Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" ; > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:02 PM > > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > > > > > >>| I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and > >>| go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) > >> > >>If this were done, there would need to be some kind of similar > >>'hand-holding' utility to help setting up the config files. > >> > >> > >> > >>jm > >>-- > >>"Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion > >>was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck > >>by a missile." > >> > >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > Antoine Beaupr=E9 > Jambala TCM team > Ericsson Canada inc. > mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > - --=20 .-. _-~\ .-. \=3D=3D/ | Joseph Anthony ( O ) |\ O \ (___) (oo) | http://www.wastelandranger.org `-' /\\_-~ |v| () | jga@wastelandranger.org CAMBOT! GYPSY! TOM SERVO! CROOOOW! | ICQ #3923267 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBO2mFv1sv4MjRLilNEQKkiwCg4IlfT2ddTSsIAZTIhkkbM+1o4NQAn3HP ADK0HMidvXGE7uhjQDyJTPd1 =3DNueO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11: 6:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flounder.jimking.net (flounder.jimking.net [209.205.176.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7389937B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: from jking (jking.lgc.com [134.132.76.82]) (authenticated) by flounder.jimking.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72I6l925028 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:06:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <005c01c11b7d$e85ee680$524c8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: "Ted Sikora" , References: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> <3B697F99.D179CA84@home.com> Subject: Re: Bridge? Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:06:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Ted Sikora" wrote > Ted Sikora wrote: > > > > I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > > invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > > has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > > machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > > firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. > > > > That was it. I guess the Bridge option is needed with cable and dsl > modems. I have a FreeBSD box with two NICs acting as a NAT gateway to my DSL connection. I do not use 'options BRIDGE' and it works fine. The message above looks like somebody was trying to hack you. Maybe a portmapper attack? Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:12:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7642A37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f72I8Om05451; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108021808.f72I8Om05451@ptavv.es.net> To: Erik Trulsson Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:37:42 +0200." <20010802193741.A1026@student.uu.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:08:24 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Erik, I must apologize. I'd swear that I saw the statement on the XFree86 4.1 page, but not only don't I find it there, but I find must information that is clearly to the contrary. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:13:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.wox.org (cr686582-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.23.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EF237B406 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:13:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Received: from localhost (rglidden@localhost) by zaphod.wox.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72I9aV57951; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:09:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Glidden X-X-Sender: To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <20010802140056.E57892-100000@charon.acheron.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > "what resolution do you want". :) > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. Am I missing something? What was so great about XF86Setup? I haven't had any problems configuring XFree86 4, using the included tools. The "xf86cfg" program included with XFree86 4 seems to do the job very well, and even uses the "XFree86 -configure" command as a starting point, rather than guessing at 'safe' defaults like XF86Setup did. Plus, it has support for new features of XFree86 4. - Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:16:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8474137B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se (mr7att.ericy.com [138.85.92.15]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72IGS520323 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:16:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72IGRh10964 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:16:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f72IGRA16770 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:16:26 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QDYH37MG; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:16:18 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B6998EC.8060909@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 14:16:12 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <20010802140056.E57892-100000@charon.acheron.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But-but-but... Everybody *hates* xf86config... right? ;) Seriously. xf86config is still at best annoying to use. Question/answer is not a extremely pratical interface, you must admit. And I haven't been able to make xf86config grok my screen properly yet. I'll give it another chance though. :) A. -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:27:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.wox.org (cr686582-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.23.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310DD37B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Received: from localhost (rglidden@localhost) by zaphod.wox.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72IRQg58008; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:27:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:27:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Glidden X-X-Sender: To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <3B6998EC.8060909@lmc.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <20010802142602.U58004-100000@charon.acheron.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > But-but-but... Everybody *hates* xf86config... right? > > ;) xf86cfg and xf86config are two VERY different programs. Give xf86cfg a try, and you'll see what I mean. xf86cfg is graphical, and is much more similar to XF86Setup than it is to xf86config. (Yes, xf86cfg is a pretty poor choice for the command name). - Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:28:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fijfi.mirrorimage.net (fijfi.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F88837B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuck@fijfi.mirrorimage.net) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fijfi.mirrorimage.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72IQrO99412 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:26:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuck) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:26:53 -0400 From: Chuck MacKinnon To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802142653.M89038@mirror-image.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <014601c11b77$677789b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why not just run xf86cfg. Then you can set up the screens and resolutions etc. Not too hard to figure out. On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0400 or thereabouts, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > "what resolution do you want". :) > > I had a big pain configuring my machine to run on 800x600 instead of > 640x480. I had to dig out my old mode lines from my old config to make > it work. :( > > Ouch. > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. > > A. > > Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > There is a very good one. > > > > XFree86 -configure > > > > Must be run as root and it will create an XF86Config.new file in the current > > directory. It is an excellent starting script and I haven't seen it fail > > yet. > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > veldy@veldy.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "j mckitrick" > > To: "Kevin Oberman" > > Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" ; > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:02 PM > > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > > > > > >>| I think it's about time to drop 3.3.6 as the "standard" X server and > >>| go with 4.1. (I do miss XF86setup, though!) > >> > >>If this were done, there would need to be some kind of similar > >>'hand-holding' utility to help setting up the config files. > >> > >> > >> > >>jm > >>-- > >>"Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion > >>was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck > >>by a missile." > >> > >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > Antoine Beaupré > Jambala TCM team > Ericsson Canada inc. > mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Chuck MacKinnon v: 781-376-1121 Systems Administrator f: 781-376-1110 Mirror Image Internet e: chuck@mirror-image.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:29: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4023337B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se (mr7att.ericy.com [138.85.92.15]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72ISq528346; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:28:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72ISph18444; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:28:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f72ISoA17514; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:28:49 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QDYH3740; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:28:46 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Richard Glidden Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B699BD7.8020205@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 14:28:39 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <20010802140056.E57892-100000@charon.acheron.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ooohhh... xf86cfg eh? != xf86config? both are installed with 4 or what? that's surely interesting though. :) A. Richard Glidden wrote: > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > > >>Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config >>file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as >>"what resolution do you want". :) >> >>I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. >> > > Am I missing something? What was so great about XF86Setup? > > I haven't had any problems configuring XFree86 4, using the included > tools. The "xf86cfg" program included with XFree86 4 seems to do the job > very well, and even uses the "XFree86 -configure" command as a starting > point, rather than guessing at 'safe' defaults like XF86Setup did. Plus, > it has support for new features of XFree86 4. > > - Richard > -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:38: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F04037B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr6.exu.ericsson.se (mr6att.ericy.com [138.85.92.14]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72Ic4503847 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:38:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr6.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72Ic4f05335 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:38:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f72Ic3A18015 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:38:02 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QDYH375R; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:37:55 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B699DFD.9090104@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 14:37:49 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <014601c11b77$677789b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802142653.M89038@mirror-image.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck MacKinnon wrote: > Why not just run xf86cfg. Then you can set up the screens and resolutions > etc. Not too hard to figure out. Sorry people, I didn't know about xf86cfg. :) I *will* try it out. I still have glitches with my old config anyways. I'm definitly getting this thread OT, however. A. -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:39:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E82337B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 60269 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Aug 2001 18:39:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:39:47 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: BIND-9.x Message-ID: <20010802203947.A56409@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010702143109.K8107-100000@hq1.tyfon.net> <20010702175009.E79697@mail.webmonster.de> <20010802200016.H65558@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010802200016.H65558@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from asmodai@wxs.nl on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 08:00:16PM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai(asmodai@wxs.nl)@2001.08.02 20:00:16 +0000: > [Late response, but I am still catching up on DNS/BIND issues] >=20 > -On [20010702 17:59], Karsten W. Rohrbach (karsten@rohrbach.de) wrote: > >bind should be made a port, IMHO, and take it's way out of the base > >system, being replaced by an asynchronous resolver library (there are > >many). >=20 > Taking BIND out of the base system as well as things like sendmail and > god knows what not requires effort to get sysinstall to provide ease of > install/use to install and integrate it with the system should someone > desire it. >=20 > [Just to let you know this had been discussed to death in the past and > no-one stepped forward to take this up yet. Well, aside from the libh > project, but that's future music and doesn't solve the issues we have > right now. So, by all means...] i already established contact with alex from the libh folks and plan to have a look at the actual libh concept when i got a little spare time. maybe some of you folks will attend hal2001...? let me know and we can have a mini-meeting there if there's enough spare time. /k --=20 > "I didn't change a thing and from the moment I didn't change it, > it didn't work anymore." --Anonymous KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aZ5zM0BPTilkv0YRAvVXAJ9hLRVX8RjosK01xobH8Tom40DS2wCfSyNn WY0qQ0qhkNGOGNnJlhgAplg= =wgQo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 11:40:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fijfi.mirrorimage.net (fijfi.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AF537B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:40:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuck@fijfi.mirrorimage.net) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fijfi.mirrorimage.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72IdGB99679 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:39:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuck) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:39:16 -0400 From: Chuck MacKinnon To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802143916.R89038@mirror-image.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B695AEE.7010904@lmc.ericsson.se> <200108021639.f72Gdmm04076@ptavv.es.net> <20010802180220.A12676@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <014601c11b77$677789b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B698F49.7050903@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802142653.M89038@mirror-image.com> <3B699DFD.9090104@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B699DFD.9090104@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 02:37:49PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I apologize for not seeing the other mails eluding to xf86cfg. Please forgive the ramblings. I know 4 e-mails saying the same thing isn't pretty. On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 02:37:49PM -0400 or thereabouts, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Chuck MacKinnon wrote: > > Why not just run xf86cfg. Then you can set up the screens and > resolutions > > etc. Not too hard to figure out. > > Sorry people, I didn't know about xf86cfg. :) I *will* try it out. I > still have glitches with my old config anyways. > > I'm definitly getting this thread OT, however. > > A. > -- > Antoine Beaupré > Jambala TCM team > Ericsson Canada inc. > mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Chuck MacKinnon v: 781-376-1121 Systems Administrator f: 781-376-1110 Mirror Image Internet e: chuck@mirror-image.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 12:26:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tdl.com (tdl.com [206.180.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2139037B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:26:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wdr@tdl.com) Received: from saffron.my.domain (pm5-69.tdl.com [206.180.234.69]) by tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07105; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:20:00 -0700 Received: (from wdr@localhost) by saffron.my.domain (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f72JQJe06213; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:26:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wdr) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: William Richard Organization: William Richard & Associates Ltd To: j mckitrick Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:25:48 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080212254800.01448@saffron.my.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 02 August 2001 06:35, j mckitrick wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:26:37AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > | I found that pkg_delete -a and make install of all necessary ports > | is an extremely healthy activity as it removes a extremely big load > | of crap (read: useless/unused software). > | > | Just reinstall it all. You probably don't need that much anyways. > | ;) > > Any caveats I should look out for moving to version 4? Before you deinstall all of your X ports, make sure the new X server works. And make sure you can go back to 3.3.6 relatively expeditiously (mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11backup). The XFree86-4 X server dumped core on my allegedly-supported Matrox Mystique shortly after starting, so I never got past the configuration. If I hadn't had the old X11R6 directory backed up, I would have been mightily screwed. -- Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 12:29:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-26-223-53.mmcable.com [65.26.223.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C2F37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:29:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikea@mikea.ath.cx) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f72JT9K08721; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:29:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:29:09 -0500 From: mikea To: Ivana Belgers-van Overmeeren Cc: Monica Shin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Message-ID: <20010802142909.A8701@mikea.ath.cx> References: <3B696AAD.958FB9E@surfnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <3B696AAD.958FB9E@surfnet.nl>; from ivana.belgers@surfnet.nl on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 04:58:53PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 04:58:53PM +0200, Ivana Belgers-van Overmeeren wrote: > To all -stable readers: sorry, it's off topic, but I just couldn't > resist... Please do resist the next time. _Please_! The S/N ratio here is getting awfully bad. +----------+ | PLEASE | | DO NOT | | FEED THE | | TROLLS | +----------+ | | | | .\|.||/.. Let's ignore everything related to S.N.C. and stick to FreeBSD- Stable issues. There are enough of them to keep us all busy. Thanks. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 12:32:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep15-int.chello.nl (unknown [213.46.243.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A982037B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org ([62.163.96.180]) by amsfep15-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20010802180945.MDTJ17667.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org>; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:09:45 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72I0Gx62245; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:00:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:00:16 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: BIND-9.x Message-ID: <20010802200016.H65558@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <20010702143109.K8107-100000@hq1.tyfon.net> <20010702175009.E79697@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010702175009.E79697@mail.webmonster.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Late response, but I am still catching up on DNS/BIND issues] -On [20010702 17:59], Karsten W. Rohrbach (karsten@rohrbach.de) wrote: >bind should be made a port, IMHO, and take it's way out of the base >system, being replaced by an asynchronous resolver library (there are >many). Taking BIND out of the base system as well as things like sendmail and god knows what not requires effort to get sysinstall to provide ease of install/use to install and integrate it with the system should someone desire it. [Just to let you know this had been discussed to death in the past and no-one stepped forward to take this up yet. Well, aside from the libh project, but that's future music and doesn't solve the issues we have right now. So, by all means...] -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|freebsd.org|xmach.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder, finger asmodai@ninth-circle.dnsalias.net http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ To do injustice is more disgraceful than to suffer it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 12:53: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ghostwheel.tribble.net (ghostwheel.tribble.net [206.124.26.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C45237B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tribble@tribble.net) Received: (from tribble@localhost) by ghostwheel.tribble.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f72Jr2d44780 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:53:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tribble@tribble.net) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:53:02 -0600 From: Paul To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! Message-ID: <20010802135302.A44660@tribble.net> References: <200108012312.JAA00237@tungsten.austclear.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108012312.JAA00237@tungsten.austclear.com.au>; from ahl@austclear.com.au on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:12:04AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ditto. My 4.3-RELEASE cd's came late. I don't really care, though. I rarely use the pressed CDs. I have a subscription because I'm a long-time FreeBSD user/administrator, and I wish to contribute something to the FreeBSD project. Since I don't code, I pay for a subscription, and try to turn as many new people onto FreeBSD as possible, and help newcomers learn the basics. Regardless, though, my 4.3 CD did come, albeit a bit late. Once upon a time, Tony Landells scribed: > Hi Gerd, > > Maybe I'm just lucky, but I haven't had any problem. My 4.3 CDs > arrived without any "intervention" on my part. Maybe a bit more > slowly than I might have liked, but I don't need them at the moment > so I don't really care. > > But then, they do say that Australia is "the lucky country" ;-) > > Tony > -- > Tony Landells > Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 > Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 > Level 4, Rialto North Tower > 525 Collins Street > Melbourne VIC 3000 > Australia Regards, Paul http://www.tribble.net/ "A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." -- Adlai Stevenson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13: 0:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ghostwheel.tribble.net (ghostwheel.tribble.net [206.124.26.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118C137B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tribble@tribble.net) Received: (from tribble@localhost) by ghostwheel.tribble.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f72K0VD44934 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:00:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tribble@tribble.net) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:00:31 -0600 From: Paul To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REMINDER: We are now in code slush for 4.3-stable! Message-ID: <20010802140031.C44660@tribble.net> References: <200108012018.f71KIOW07131@winston.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108012018.f71KIOW07131@winston.freebsd.org>; from jkh@winston.freebsd.org on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:18:24PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just wondering if anyone else has thought about the fact that we're now about up to FreeBSD 4.4, which I would think has some historical significance seeing as how it's derived from 4.4BSD-Lite*. :) Regards, Paul http://www.tribble.net/ "A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." -- Adlai Stevenson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13: 5:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magrathea.epr.com (magrathea.epr.com [198.3.163.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4981037B411 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:05:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsatterfield@intertrust.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magrathea.epr.com (8.9.3/8.7.3) id NAA02639 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown(198.3.162.27) by magrathea.epr.com via smap (V5.5) id xmaa02355; Thu, 2 Aug 01 13:04:00 -0700 Received: from exchange.epr.com (exchange.epr.com [198.3.162.249]) by maguro.epr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25863; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.epr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:01:42 -0700 Message-ID: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA71@exchange.epr.com> From: James Satterfield To: "'Richard Glidden'" , "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:01:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had xf86cfg core on every machine I've tried it on. Perhaps I'm missing something? James. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Glidden [mailto:rglidden@zaphod.wox.org] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM To: Antoine Beaupre (LMC) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > "what resolution do you want". :) > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. Am I missing something? What was so great about XF86Setup? I haven't had any problems configuring XFree86 4, using the included tools. The "xf86cfg" program included with XFree86 4 seems to do the job very well, and even uses the "XFree86 -configure" command as a starting point, rather than guessing at 'safe' defaults like XF86Setup did. Plus, it has support for new features of XFree86 4. - Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13: 6:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [213.197.128.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56CD37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from domas.mituzas@delfi.lt) Received: from localhost (midom@localhost) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f72K8pu38714; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:08:51 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: axis.tdd.lt: midom owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:08:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Domas Mituzas X-X-Sender: To: Paul Cc: Subject: Re: REMINDER: We are now in code slush for 4.3-stable! In-Reply-To: <20010802140031.C44660@tribble.net> Message-ID: <20010802200826.D35575-100000@axis.tdd.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Paul wrote: > Just wondering if anyone else has thought about the fact that we're now > about up to FreeBSD 4.4, which I would think has some historical > significance seeing as how it's derived from 4.4BSD-Lite*. :) > Jordan didn't miss this significance in his initial freeze announcement ;-) -- Cheers, Domas Mituzas DELFI Internet, UAB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13: 9: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ghostwheel.tribble.net (ghostwheel.tribble.net [206.124.26.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C9F37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tribble@tribble.net) Received: (from tribble@localhost) by ghostwheel.tribble.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f72K8vX45144 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:08:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tribble@tribble.net) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:08:57 -0600 From: Paul To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REMINDER: We are now in code slush for 4.3-stable! Message-ID: <20010802140857.D44660@tribble.net> References: <20010802140031.C44660@tribble.net> <20010802200826.D35575-100000@axis.tdd.lt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010802200826.D35575-100000@axis.tdd.lt>; from domas.mituzas@delfi.lt on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 08:08:51PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Once upon a time, Domas Mituzas scribed: > Jordan didn't miss this significance in his initial freeze announcement > ;-) Doh!! hehe. just call me mister oblivious =) > -- > Cheers, > Domas Mituzas > DELFI Internet, UAB Regards, Paul http://www.tribble.net/ "A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." -- Adlai Stevenson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:14:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.wox.org (cr686582-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.23.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC3A37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Received: from localhost (rglidden@localhost) by zaphod.wox.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f72KE7n58313; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Glidden X-X-Sender: To: James Satterfield Cc: Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA71@exchange.epr.com> Message-ID: <20010802160649.H58288-100000@charon.acheron.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Come to think of it, I did have xf86cfg dump core on me once, when I already had XFree86 3.3.6 installed and then installed the XFree86 4.1 port without removing 3.3.6 first. I haven't tried 4.1 on other machines. However, I have run the XFree86 4.0 port's xf86cfg without problems on 3 other machines which did not have 3.3.6 installed. These were machines running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE with nVidia and ATI video cards (GeForce, and Mach64) Perhaps there is some piece of an old configuration sitting around that is confusing xf86cfg? Or maybe there is something wrong with the 4.1 port (I haven't tried it enough to be sure) - Richard On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, James Satterfield wrote: > I've had xf86cfg core on every machine I've tried it on. Perhaps I'm missing > something? > > James. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Glidden [mailto:rglidden@zaphod.wox.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM > To: Antoine Beaupre (LMC) > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > > > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > > "what resolution do you want". :) > > > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. > > Am I missing something? What was so great about XF86Setup? > > I haven't had any problems configuring XFree86 4, using the included > tools. The "xf86cfg" program included with XFree86 4 seems to do the job > very well, and even uses the "XFree86 -configure" command as a starting > point, rather than guessing at 'safe' defaults like XF86Setup did. Plus, > it has support for new features of XFree86 4. > > - Richard > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:18:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magrathea.epr.com (magrathea.epr.com [198.3.163.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A10F37B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:18:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsatterfield@intertrust.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magrathea.epr.com (8.9.3/8.7.3) id NAA07215 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown(198.3.162.27) by magrathea.epr.com via smap (V5.5) id xma006991; Thu, 2 Aug 01 13:17:03 -0700 Received: from exchange.epr.com (exchange.epr.com [198.3.162.249]) by maguro.epr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26640; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.epr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:14:45 -0700 Message-ID: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA72@exchange.epr.com> From: James Satterfield To: "'Richard Glidden'" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:14:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I always install FreeBSD without X and make XFree86-4 from ports. xf86cfg cores. I just hack the output of XFree86 -configure tho, so it's no big deal. James. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Glidden [mailto:rglidden@zaphod.wox.org] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:14 PM To: James Satterfield Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 Come to think of it, I did have xf86cfg dump core on me once, when I already had XFree86 3.3.6 installed and then installed the XFree86 4.1 port without removing 3.3.6 first. I haven't tried 4.1 on other machines. However, I have run the XFree86 4.0 port's xf86cfg without problems on 3 other machines which did not have 3.3.6 installed. These were machines running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE with nVidia and ATI video cards (GeForce, and Mach64) Perhaps there is some piece of an old configuration sitting around that is confusing xf86cfg? Or maybe there is something wrong with the 4.1 port (I haven't tried it enough to be sure) - Richard On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, James Satterfield wrote: > I've had xf86cfg core on every machine I've tried it on. Perhaps I'm missing > something? > > James. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Glidden [mailto:rglidden@zaphod.wox.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM > To: Antoine Beaupre (LMC) > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > > > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > > "what resolution do you want". :) > > > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. > > Am I missing something? What was so great about XF86Setup? > > I haven't had any problems configuring XFree86 4, using the included > tools. The "xf86cfg" program included with XFree86 4 seems to do the job > very well, and even uses the "XFree86 -configure" command as a starting > point, rather than guessing at 'safe' defaults like XF86Setup did. Plus, > it has support for new features of XFree86 4. > > - Richard > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:19: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vault12.wastelandranger.org (cn-237-242.dsl.stwr.brightok.net [205.162.237.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A6D37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:19:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) Received: from localhost (jga@localhost) by vault12.wastelandranger.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72KJms75743; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:19:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vault12.wastelandranger.org: jga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:19:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Joseph Anthony Reply-To: Joseph Anthony To: Richard Glidden Cc: James Satterfield , Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <20010802160649.H58288-100000@charon.acheron.localnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just download the binaries from XFree86.org and run the install scripts? On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Richard Glidden wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:07 -0400 (EDT) > From: Richard Glidden > To: James Satterfield > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 > > > Come to think of it, I did have xf86cfg dump core on me once, when I > already had XFree86 3.3.6 installed and then installed the XFree86 4.1 > port without removing 3.3.6 first. I haven't tried 4.1 on other machines. > > However, I have run the XFree86 4.0 port's xf86cfg without problems on 3 > other machines which did not have 3.3.6 installed. These were machines > running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE with nVidia and ATI video cards (GeForce, and > Mach64) > > Perhaps there is some piece of an old configuration sitting around that is > confusing xf86cfg? Or maybe there is something wrong with the 4.1 port > (I haven't tried it enough to be sure) > > - Richard > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, James Satterfield wrote: > > > I've had xf86cfg core on every machine I've tried it on. Perhaps I'm missing > > something? > > > > James. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Glidden [mailto:rglidden@zaphod.wox.org] > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM > > To: Antoine Beaupre (LMC) > > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > > > > > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > > > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > > > "what resolution do you want". :) > > > > > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. > > > > Am I missing something? What was so great about XF86Setup? > > > > I haven't had any problems configuring XFree86 4, using the included > > tools. The "xf86cfg" program included with XFree86 4 seems to do the job > > very well, and even uses the "XFree86 -configure" command as a starting > > point, rather than guessing at 'safe' defaults like XF86Setup did. Plus, > > it has support for new features of XFree86 4. > > > > - Richard > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > - -- .-. _-~\ .-. \==/ | Joseph Anthony ( O ) |\ O \ (___) (oo) | http://www.wastelandranger.org `-' /\\_-~ |v| () | jga@wastelandranger.org CAMBOT! GYPSY! TOM SERVO! CROOOOW! | ICQ #3923267 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBO2mn1Fsv4MjRLilNEQJzkwCfUyEK+MJ/lR102Ed2n9/RlAODUHoAoKMw pk+5c0dF3MjzO2mVmvy8OlUK =/2S0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:25:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magrathea.epr.com (magrathea.epr.com [198.3.163.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C051337B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsatterfield@intertrust.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magrathea.epr.com (8.9.3/8.7.3) id NAA09197 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown(198.3.162.27) by magrathea.epr.com via smap (V5.5) id xma009010; Thu, 2 Aug 01 13:24:52 -0700 Received: from exchange.epr.com (exchange.epr.com [198.3.162.249]) by maguro.epr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27208; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.epr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:22:19 -0700 Message-ID: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA73@exchange.epr.com> From: James Satterfield To: "'Joseph Anthony'" , Richard Glidden Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:22:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've no idea... I compile EVERYTHING. James. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Anthony [mailto:jga@wastelandranger.org] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:20 PM To: Richard Glidden Cc: James Satterfield; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just download the binaries from XFree86.org and run the install scripts? On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Richard Glidden wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:07 -0400 (EDT) > From: Richard Glidden > To: James Satterfield > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 > > > Come to think of it, I did have xf86cfg dump core on me once, when I > already had XFree86 3.3.6 installed and then installed the XFree86 4.1 > port without removing 3.3.6 first. I haven't tried 4.1 on other machines. > > However, I have run the XFree86 4.0 port's xf86cfg without problems on 3 > other machines which did not have 3.3.6 installed. These were machines > running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE with nVidia and ATI video cards (GeForce, and > Mach64) > > Perhaps there is some piece of an old configuration sitting around that is > confusing xf86cfg? Or maybe there is something wrong with the 4.1 port > (I haven't tried it enough to be sure) > > - Richard > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, James Satterfield wrote: > > > I've had xf86cfg core on every machine I've tried it on. Perhaps I'm missing > > something? > > > > James. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Glidden [mailto:rglidden@zaphod.wox.org] > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM > > To: Antoine Beaupre (LMC) > > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > > > > > Unfortunatly, from what I can tell, -configure just creates a config > > > file based on your hw configuration, and does not ask basic stuff as > > > "what resolution do you want". :) > > > > > > I really, really, really miss XF86Setup. Really. > > > > Am I missing something? What was so great about XF86Setup? > > > > I haven't had any problems configuring XFree86 4, using the included > > tools. The "xf86cfg" program included with XFree86 4 seems to do the job > > very well, and even uses the "XFree86 -configure" command as a starting > > point, rather than guessing at 'safe' defaults like XF86Setup did. Plus, > > it has support for new features of XFree86 4. > > > > - Richard > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > - -- .-. _-~\ .-. \==/ | Joseph Anthony ( O ) |\ O \ (___) (oo) | http://www.wastelandranger.org `-' /\\_-~ |v| () | jga@wastelandranger.org CAMBOT! GYPSY! TOM SERVO! CROOOOW! | ICQ #3923267 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBO2mn1Fsv4MjRLilNEQJzkwCfUyEK+MJ/lR102Ed2n9/RlAODUHoAoKMw pk+5c0dF3MjzO2mVmvy8OlUK =/2S0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:30:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f39.hotmail.com [216.32.181.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05E137B407 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:30:11 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:30:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:30:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2001 20:30:11.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDED8A20:01C11B91] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Actually, the only thing you'd miss is the older graphic cards either no longer made on the PC platforms, not supported as far as new drivers, or not used by the mainstream of users/developers. When you have a limited amount of resources doing driver development you try to for you hardware surveys of your current base of users and try to support them first while keeping that backward compatible thing on second string. Some may disagree. Now since FreeBSD is internationally known, many users have older cards that work just fine for server environments. Other users are moving into the OpenGL development and game playing areas in which only the video cards within the past 0-5 years will do. All configuration issues aside, it would be nice to just make the effort to get ready for Xfree86 4.1.x-4.2.x and just keep 3.3.6 around for archival reasons. Is this a no-brainer?!? -ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:36:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f129.hotmail.com [216.32.181.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E977B37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:36:26 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:36:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: asmodai@wxs.nl, mariodoria@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change to Bind 9 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:36:26 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2001 20:36:26.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD40B670:01C11B92] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is it possible to have both BIND v8.2.4 and v9.1.3 available from the ports options?? People who want a Bind8 server get to install it and people who want to live dangerously (ha) can install a Bind9 server. Any thoughts?!? Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:38:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D7237B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.5/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72KcfP08809 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:38:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:38:41 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Subject: pxeboot in FBSD 4.4 buggy? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I posted several hours a posting about a problem and I tried to study the problem and got several notes about what I watched. I have the problem that since yesterday's cvsupdate our diskless X terminals won't work. Today I cvsupdated an hour ago the last time to get rid of the problem, but no way. Symptoms: The diskless systems, AMD K7 DURON based machines, 64 MB RAM, DFI AK74-EC motherboard, Intel EtherExpress Pro/100 NIC with the lates boot rom firmware (as release 17) and a gigabyte ga660+ graphics accelerator card, boot normaly over network via PXE, connecting to a DHCP using isc-dhcp2 and loading the kernel via TFTP. This worked until yesterday perfectly. four of six terminals were started later this day after the last cvsupdate - and the crash shortly after showing the information that they try to load via TFTP. The crahs is really funny and coloured, I see the screen full of flashing, coloured 8x16 blocks as they are known from the early days of cga or vga devices in text mode. Two of these terminals were started early this day before I did the cvsupdate and buildworld and are still running. I seems to me that the pxeboot or loader code has been 'weird up' due all of our servers were cvsupdated the same time and work perfect till now. Can anyone proof this strange behaviour? -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:39:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tigerdyr.wheel.dk (tigerdyr.wheel.dk [62.242.234.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD3E37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyngbol@tigerdyr.wheel.dk) Received: by tigerdyr.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3686614FF8; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:39:27 +0200 From: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lyngb=F8l?= To: Kenneth Mays Cc: asmodai@wxs.nl, mariodoria@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change to Bind 9 Message-ID: <20010802223927.B91281@tigerdyr.wheel.dk> Mail-Followup-To: Kenneth Mays , asmodai@wxs.nl, mariodoria@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 5.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CA6 3789 1455 8FC2 D499 F22A D763 1ABB 9E4A 37AE X-PGP-Public-Key: finger lyngbol@tigerdyr.wheel.dk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02.08.2001 16:36:26 +0000, Kenneth Mays wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to have both BIND v8.2.4 and v9.1.3 available from > the ports options?? People who want a Bind8 server get to install it and > people who want to live dangerously (ha) can install a Bind9 server. > > Any thoughts?!? lyngbol@daisy:/<2>net% grep ^PORTVERSION /usr/ports/net/bind[89]/Makefile /usr/ports/net/bind8/Makefile:PORTVERSION= 8.2.4 /usr/ports/net/bind9/Makefile:PORTVERSION= 9.1.3 Both BIND 8.2.4 and BIND 9.1.3 is available from the ports collection. /Michael -- Michael Lyngbøl -- michael at lyngbol dot dk TDC Tele Danmark, DataNetworks, IP section To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:52:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA5837B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.5/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72KqkP09059 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:52:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:52:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. I'm sorry bothering the community again with my problem. But I revealed something strange in /boot/pxeboot. On August, 1st 9 o'clock CEST I did a backup of our diskless configuration and that was the last known good configuration. Today I run into struggle with the last cvsupdate. All of our diskless machines are unabale to boot, they crash immediately after trying to boot via TFTP. I tried to watch this process for several hours now and tried many reconfiguartions and tried to reveal the mistake I did - but I simply copied now /boot/pxeboot from the backup CD into the boot directory of the diskless bootstrap server and, voila!, all diskless stations are able to boot. I tried to watch whether there have been changes in the pxeboot code but in the specific time, since yesterday morning, there were no logs. Maybe a compiler error? Hope someone of the development group finds this error ... -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:54:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oneplusone.ch (oneplusone.ch [212.55.208.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2D137B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ast@marabu.ch) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by oneplusone.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3) with UUCP id f72Ks3b19310; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:54:03 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from ast@marabu.ch) Received: from marabu.marabu.ch (marabu.marabu.ch [192.168.21.3]) by marabu.ch (8.9.3/2000102801) with ESMTP id WAA18228; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:49:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ast@marabu.ch) Received: by marabu.marabu.ch (8.7.5/20001028-ast-8.3) id WAA14916; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:49:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200108022049.WAA14916@marabu.marabu.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v124.8483.6) Content-Type: text/plain X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.124.8483.6) From: Adrian Steinmann Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:49:01 +0200 To: carlo@vis.ethz.ch (Carlo Dapor) Subject: Re: Fat kernel, needs dieting (again :-) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organization: Steinmann Consulting, Apollostrasse 21, 8032 Zurich X-Phone-Numbers: Switzerland, Tel +41 1 380 30 83 Fax +41 1 380 30 85 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone said on stable@freebsd.org: > The other day a guy (sorry I forgot who) says that That was me, , see also http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29272 and the copy of the earlier message below. But carlo@vis.ethz.ch (Carlo Dapor) questions this: And top(1) just works fine ? When I gzip(1)ed kernels in the past, everything worked just fine, except for top(1) and IIRC ps, which could not access some structure - sorry for being very vague here, it has been some time. We are refering to a kgziped LOADER (/boot/loader) not kernel! The loader on the boot floppy can be kgzip-ed safely and the pr=29272 above has the one-line patch enclosed. Maybe obrien@FreeBSD.org who was working on this might incorporate this patch too, saving us another 60k on boot floppies? Thanks Adrian PS. This was the old message: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:30:05 +0200 To: Chris BeHanna Subject: Re: SNAPSHOTS-no new -STABLE snapshot since Jul 21. Why? cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Chris BeHanna wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, stuart nichols wrote: > I've got a couple of tranisient machines to rebuild, but > there have been no successful snapshot builds on releng4 > since Jul 21. (Shortly before that (Jul 17th-19th?) the > packages option from /stand/sysinstall caused a core dump.) > > What is keeping the snapshots from being created? IIUC (If I Understand Correctly), the boot floppy images are too large to fit on a floppy; therefore, "make release" fails. I recently sent in a patch for this (compress loader, rm /boot/boot? files) - see: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29272 seems like someone's working on it. Adrian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:56: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CF137B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcservice.schweizer@spectraweb.ch) Received: from pc-service.ch (abo-mu-2-1-dialup-214.spectraweb.ch [194.230.203.214]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id WAA25694; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:55:44 +0200 Received: (from martin@localhost) by pc-service.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f72KxTf01338; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:59:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pcservice.schweizer@spectraweb.ch) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:59:24 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Jason Andresen Cc: Martin Schweizer , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Telnet Message-ID: <20010802225924.A1023@pc-service.ch> Reply-To: Martin Schweizer References: <3B3A719B@webmail.swiss-web.com> <3B69581D.B40756E@mitre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B69581D.B40756E@mitre.org>; from jandrese@mitre.org on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:39:41AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:39:41AM -0400 Jason Andresen wrote: Hello Jason > > >===== Original Message From Jason Andresen ===== > > >> I would connect to my shell machine at otaku.freeshell.org. If I use telnet > > >> from Win9x/WinNT/Win2k I've no problem to access. If I use telnet from > > >> FreeBSD4.3 I can't correct steering my shell (some keys won't functions). I > > >> changed also the TERM variable to vt100 without success (in this case the > > >> command line from FreeBSD ist verry strange). What I doing wrong? > > >> Thank you in advance. > > > > >How are you using telnet from the FreeBSD machine? Are you on the > > >console > > ... at the console > > > > >or are you in an xterm? > > ... no, perhaps later > > > > The PC Console isn't a very good VT100 > > >emulator, > > >you need to use a mode like "pc-cons" or "pc-ansi" or "ansi" or "cons25" > > >or "pccons" or whatever the remote system actually has for PC consoles. > > In default FreeBSD uses cons25. If I use TERM=vt100 then I can not use all > > keys and the screen has some strange caracters. > > >XTerms in general are halfway decent VT100 emulators, but using "xterm" > > >is even better. > > I will test it. I test all the above terms with no success (results was allways the same)! I test it also in KDE2 (xterm). There it was much more better then under the console. How can resovle this? If you would I can e-mail you off-topic my account information at otaku.freeshell.org. > > >Windows telnet is a terrible emulator, but if you consider it to work > > >with > > >"no problems" as a vt100 terminal, then you should have no problem > > >getting > > >equivelent functionality out of FreeBSD with the right term variable. > > Which is your prefered TERM variable for telnet access? > > Unfortunatly it takes a bit of experimentation if the remote system is > not > FreeBSD based. > > If it is a FreeBSD system, try setting TERM to whatever the local > terminal > is set for (assuming all of the keys work on the local terminal). -- Regards Martin PC-Service M. Schweizer; Gewerbehaus Schwarz; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:56:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.monmouth.com (shell.monmouth.com [209.191.58.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BF537B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pechter@shell.monmouth.com) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id QAA03229 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:56:16 -0400 From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PCVT breakage Message-ID: <20010802165616.A3009@shell.monmouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone seen this -- It appears to be a problem with PCVT in my kernel build. I wrapped the error a bit for readability. My last good build was 7/21/01. Just trying to test it all during the code slush. # make cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_drv.c In file included from ../../i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:95, from ../../i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_drv.c:62: ../../dev/kbd/kbdreg.h:92: `NUM_KEYS' undeclared here (not in a function) ../../dev/kbd/kbdreg.h:92: size of array `kb_lastact' has non-integer type *** Error code 1 I'll look into it further when I get home from work. -Bill -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Bill and/or Carolyn Pechter | pechter@shell.monmouth.com | | Bill Gates is a Persian cat and a monocle away from being a villain in | | a James Bond movie -- Dennis Miller | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 13:57:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263A237B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaco@teaser.fr) Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (toulouse-2-a7-48-251.dial.proxad.net [212.27.48.251]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A285102A2A for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:57:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 09296333F; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Attribution: Jaco To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Closing a PR before release ? From: Eric Jacoboni Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 22:54:10 +0200 Message-ID: <86itg6gp3h.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.104 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if it's the right place for this request (if not, please ignore this message and feel free to redirect me). I think the following open PR: could be closed before RELEASE. Since i've posted it, i'm using the both patches mentionned without any problem. -- Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1300229378 secondes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 14:19:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resentment.verloid.net (unknown [213.142.95.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC6637B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:19:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from needle-mls@world-online.no) Received: from resentment.verloid.net (localhost.verloid.net [127.0.0.1]) by resentment.verloid.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA02129 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:19:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from needle-mls@world-online.no) From: needle-mls@world-online.no Received: by resentment.verloid.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:19:10 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:19:10 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010802231910.A1926@resentment.verloid.net> References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 02:35:32PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 02:35:32PM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: | Any caveats I should look out for moving to version 4? My only issue with it, is that ports seems to be rather confused about where to register dependencies for X programs. If you have XF86 v4 installed and try to install a window manager for instance, ports will try to register the dependency with Xfree86-3.3.6_9 which is obviously wrong. Now, if you set XFREE86_VERSION=4 in your /etc/make.conf, ports will for some reason try to register a dependency with imake-4.1.0, freetype2-2.0.3_1 and XFree86-4-libraries-4.1.0, which isn't quite right either when the package you have installed is called XFree86-4.1.0_4. Ok, so this isn't a problem with X but rather a ports issue. Nitpicking, probably, but I thought I'd mention it. :-) Version 4 has otherwise been working flawlessly for me, both at home and at work, for some time now. :-) Jo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 14:39: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tesla.salk.edu (tesla.salk.edu [198.202.70.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D90137B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jorge@salk.edu) Received: from merckx.salk.edu (merckx.salk.edu [198.202.70.90]) by tesla.salk.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f72Lbqn26940; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:38:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge Aldana To: Cc: Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <20010802231910.A1926@resentment.verloid.net> Message-ID: <20010802143314.J17180-100000@merckx.salk.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having the same toubles with freetype2-2.0.3_1 which is actually at 2.0.4 in the packages ftp sites (and mirrors). In fact Mesa-3.4.2_1 also has the same hangup, but I'm not sure if its in its required list. Somehow I think this points back to the older problem with the INDEX file in the ports tree? Well thats my assumption. My work around has been to use the ports, but it would be nice to get it going on packages. Jorge On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 needle-mls@world-online.no wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 02:35:32PM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: > | Any caveats I should look out for moving to version 4? > > My only issue with it, is that ports seems to be rather confused about > where to register dependencies for X programs. > > If you have XF86 v4 installed and try to install a window manager for > instance, ports will try to register the dependency with > Xfree86-3.3.6_9 which is obviously wrong. Now, if you set > XFREE86_VERSION=4 in your /etc/make.conf, ports will for some reason > try to register a dependency with imake-4.1.0, freetype2-2.0.3_1 and > XFree86-4-libraries-4.1.0, which isn't quite right either when the > package you have installed is called XFree86-4.1.0_4. > > Ok, so this isn't a problem with X but rather a ports issue. > Nitpicking, probably, but I thought I'd mention it. :-) > > Version 4 has otherwise been working flawlessly for me, both at home > and at work, for some time now. :-) > > Jo > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 15:41: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 885) id A357537B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:40:58 -0700 From: Eric Melville To: "Sung N. Cho" Cc: Gavin Atkinson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I am trying to contact webmaster for "www.bsdvault.net" Message-ID: <20010802154058.A43132@FreeBSD.org> References: <20010802035717.1735.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010802035717.1735.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com>; from sncho@yahoo.com on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 08:57:17PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Sung N. Cho" > > Regards, > Monica. It really helps to double check who you are logged in as before actually sending the message. > From: "Monica Shin" > X-Originating-IP: [198.82.153.87] > From: "Sung N. Cho" > Received: from [198.82.153.87] by web11601.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 20:57:17 PDT Getting more advanced, post the forged message from another location, or at very least obtain a new dhcp lease. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 16:31:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow024o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E860937B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from spatula.home ([62.31.80.67]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:31:45 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andrew Boothman To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:31:41 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [-stable archive searching is currently unavailable - but I don't think this has come up before] Hi! What with the recent security advisories on telnetd and also OpenSSH, I decided to upgrade my nat/ipfw/squid box from 4.3-RELEASE to RELENG_4_3. This all went according to plan, and I am now the proud owner of a slightly more secure box. My only surprise was that, a "uname -r" still reports the OS version as being 4.3-RELEASE. I guess, in a way, this still is 4.3-RELEASE since it has had no other changes apart from a few security patches. But, to me, this violates the idea that a -RELEASE is a snapshot of a development branch. Because, you can cvsup with tag=RELENG_4_3_RELEASE or tag=RELENG_4_3 and get two (slightly) different sets of sources, both of which claim to be the definitive 4.3-RELEASE. Further, in my case, the RELENG_4_3 world was made on a different box, and then exported to and installed on my gateway box, which doesn't have any sources on it. How can I tell that the box is running the patched 4.3-RELEASE and not the 'original' 4.3-RELEASE as the sources are not available? Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? Comments? Thanks! Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 16:40:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow025o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC32037B406 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from spatula.home ([62.31.80.67]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:40:44 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andrew Boothman To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:40:41 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> In-Reply-To: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080300404101.00395@spatula.home> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 03 August 2001 12:31 am, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? Sorry, meant to add that this all of course isn't really relevant to RELENG_4_3 anymore, seeing as we will have a 4.4-RELEASE soon. Perhaps something to consider for RELENG_4_4? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 16:43:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.myzona.net (dsl027-179-063.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.179.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C9637B412 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@myzona.net) Received: from parkson (adsl-64-172-24-237.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.172.24.237]) by voyager.myzona.net (mta) with SMTP id f72NdUq04599; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@myzona.net) Message-ID: <001e01c11bac$7c98d440$9601a8c0@parkson> Reply-To: "Alex M" From: "Alex M" To: "Andrew Boothman" , References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:40:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why are you surprised to see 4.3-release again? were you trying to track -stable? then you should use the stable-supfile. Handbook covers this issue very clearly about the branches. > My only surprise was that, a "uname -r" still reports the OS version as being > 4.3-RELEASE. I guess, in a way, this still is 4.3-RELEASE since it has had no > other changes apart from a few security patches. But, to me, this violates > the idea that a -RELEASE is a snapshot of a development branch. Because, you > can cvsup with tag=RELENG_4_3_RELEASE or tag=RELENG_4_3 and get two > (slightly) different sets of sources, both of which claim to be the > definitive 4.3-RELEASE. > > Further, in my case, the RELENG_4_3 world was made on a different box, and > then exported to and installed on my gateway box, which doesn't have any > sources on it. How can I tell that the box is running the patched 4.3-RELEASE > and not the 'original' 4.3-RELEASE as the sources are not available? > > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? > > Comments? > > Thanks! > > Andrew. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 16:43:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ualjuarez.elrancho.com.mx (unknown [200.23.18.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0011E37B40A for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from promo@elrancho.com.mx) Received: from 200 [148.243.115.100] by ualjuarez.elrancho.com.mx (SMTPD32-6.05) id A0DDDA0216; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 18:41:49 +0100 From: Fre nights for you. 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References: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> <3B697F99.D179CA84@home.com> <005c01c11b7d$e85ee680$524c8486@jking> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim King wrote: > > "Ted Sikora" wrote > > Ted Sikora wrote: > > > > > > I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > > > invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > > > has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > > > machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > > > firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. > > > > > > > That was it. I guess the Bridge option is needed with cable and dsl > > modems. > > I have a FreeBSD box with two NICs acting as a NAT gateway to my DSL > connection. I do not use 'options BRIDGE' and it works fine. > > The message above looks like somebody was trying to hack you. Maybe a > portmapper attack? Could be but I doubt it. It was always in my /etc/messages for months on end in several machines all -stable. As soon as I added the Bridge option to the kernel this morning it disappeared. I just ran nmap myself to see if that would cause it.. nothing. I don't know?? but I'm glad it's gone. Seems more like it was an arp/rarp problem with the modems(acting like a bridge/router) to me now. -- Ted Sikora tsikora@ntplx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 16:47:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow025o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C31937B406 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:47:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from spatula.home ([62.31.80.67]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:47:24 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andrew Boothman To: "Alex M" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:47:20 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <001e01c11bac$7c98d440$9601a8c0@parkson> In-Reply-To: <001e01c11bac$7c98d440$9601a8c0@parkson> Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080300472002.00395@spatula.home> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 03 August 2001 12:40 am, Alex M wrote: > Why are you surprised to see 4.3-release again? were you trying to > track -stable? then you should use the stable-supfile. > Handbook covers this issue very clearly about the branches. Not at all, as I said, I intended to update to RELENG_4_3. My surprise came from the fact that, in my mind, I am no longer running 4.3-RELEASE, but something more recent. It seems to me that this 'version' of FreeBSD should reports itself as something other than the -RELEASE that it was derived from. I'm happy that my system is running RELENG_4_3, this is a more general question about what we should call a system compiled from the RELENG_4_3 branch. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 17: 1:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drkshdw.org (user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net [207.30.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A19B37B415 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scorpio@drkshdw.org) Received: (qmail 99103 invoked by uid 85); 3 Aug 2001 00:01:19 -0000 Received: from scorpio@drkshdw.org by drkshdw.org with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4149. . Clean. Processed in 0.256418 secs); 03 Aug 2001 00:01:19 -0000 Received: from localhost.isni.net (HELO localhost) (scorpio@127.0.0.1) by localhost.isni.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 00:01:18 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:01:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Palmer X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Boothman Cc: Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> Message-ID: <20010802195914.P99082-100000@jeff.isni.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? I personally like the idea of adding a -SECURITY tag to the "security" branch it wouldn't be hard to do, and it would be helpful to those of use who admin a large number of machines. Especially on a consultation level. Jeff Palmer scorpio@drkshdw.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 17: 6:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F37B37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07487; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:06:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:06:21 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Andrew Boothman Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home>; from andrew@cream.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:31:41AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:31:41AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > [-stable archive searching is currently unavailable - but I don't > think this has come up before] Yes, it's been at least twice. I started the first one, before there had been any commits to the branch. There was another two or three weeks ago. The thread I started was ended with Kris pointing out that until there was a commit to the branch, it =was= -STABLE. > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? I've seen -SECURE suggested, but I think that would open a can of worms similar to the periodic discussions of what -STABLE really means. Around the office I call this branch the "most stable", but I think perhaps -SOLID has a nice ring to it... > Andrew. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 17:20:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow024o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1980737B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from spatula.home ([62.31.80.67]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:19:46 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andrew Boothman To: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:19:42 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 03 August 2001 1:06 am, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > [-stable archive searching is currently unavailable - but I don't > > think this has come up before] > > Yes, it's been at least twice. I started the first one, before > there had been any commits to the branch. There was another two or > three weeks ago. Whoops. Must have missed that somehow, apologies. > > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD > > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? > > I've seen -SECURE suggested, but I think that would open a can of > worms similar to the periodic discussions of what -STABLE really > means. Around the office I call this branch the "most stable", but > I think perhaps -SOLID has a nice ring to it... I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the branch dedicated to security fixes and nothing else. Jordan, care to make an official jkh-style pronouncement on doing this for RELENG_4_4? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 17:25:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2310937B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chancedj@bellsouth.net) Received: from satan ([216.78.128.120]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.01.01 201-252-104) with SMTP id <20010803002641.MFXL26434.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@satan> for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:26:41 -0400 Message-ID: <001501c11bb2$e5280b60$8b00a8c0@satan> From: "Daryl Chance" To: Subject: Fw: 3Com 3CP3617B (PCI DSL Modem) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:26:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2512.0001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2512.0001 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've sent this to both questions and hardware and only gotten 1 response. Hopefully I'll have more here. If anyone has a patch that they're working on, or need testing on it, let me know. If there are any commands I can run to get data that would be helpful in creating a driver for this, let me know and I can try and get the data for you. I'd attempt to make a driver, but I don't really know where to start and my C isn't the greatest. Thanks, Daryl Chance bb || !bb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Chance" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: 3Com 3CP3617B (PCI DSL Modem) > Hi, > > I've recently switched from Cable to DSL and was forced to move > from FreeBSD to Win2k Pro. Does stable have support for the > 3Com 3CP3617B Card? If anyone is working on a patch for FBSD > 4.4 release, I'd be glad to test it out. I REALLY would like to > move back to FreeBSD and not having to worry about rebooting just > to get my network back :/. Where could I go to check about the > status if it is being worked on? > > Thanks, > Daryl Chance > bb || !bb > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 17:39:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1FB37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f730coM60819; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:38:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.1) id xma060808; Fri, 3 Aug 01 10:38:43 +1000 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f730cgP03382; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:38:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:38:42 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-X-Sender: To: Miklos Niedermayer Cc: Ken Menzel , Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable In-Reply-To: <20010802101017.A27852@bsd.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Miklos Niedermayer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 09:33:13AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > > I have had terrible problems with the perc controllers from Dell > > that have been discussed before on this list. However we order our > I can confirm this. We are running a machine with an Adaptec 3200S / 64 > MB controller and it's simply **very fast**, even with RAID5. And it We're running a number of PERC cards in various boxes with excellent results here. We have one box with a PERC2/SC and 200Gb of RAID5 that hasn't skipped a beat in over 12 months, we another with the onboard PERC3/SI configured with disk mirroring that runs squid very well, and another box with a PERC2/QC that is a test box that really hauls ass. We're very happy with the PERC stuff now. Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 19: 7:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A3537B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:07:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07797; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:07:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:07:16 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Andrew Boothman Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home>; from andrew@cream.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 01:19:42AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 01:19:42AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: >> I've seen -SECURE suggested, but I think that would open a can of >> worms similar to the periodic discussions of what -STABLE really >> means. Around the office I call this branch the "most stable", but >> I think perhaps -SOLID has a nice ring to it... > > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the branch > dedicated to security fixes and nothing else. Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special release with extra security features. And complain when they get rooted. We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" three or four times per year. I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise. But I agree, it should be something other than -RELEASE. > Jordan, care to make an official jkh-style pronouncement on doing this > for RELENG_4_4? :-) Or, commit -SOLID to the RELENG_4_3 branch tonight? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 19:10:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13301.mail.yahoo.com (web13301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B608A37B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ad1na@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010803021033.57267.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.106.241.163] by web13301.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:10:33 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: ADiNA Subject: Also weird packet (Was: weird packet ... anyone) To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi stable, while i have the same condition as Vlad, it did not stopped there. i almost got the message everyday; Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1331 from 203.106.241.168:53 Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1337 from 203.106.241.168:53 Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1340 from 203.106.241.168:53 later on, i got these ... Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2027 Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2041 .... and this is with the customized SIMPLE in rc.firewall. i ignore the messages, and only yesterday that one person admitted he'd been in my system for almost three weeks monitoring mails!!! Is fresh installing the only solution to this? thanks zaidi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 19:27:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stelesys.com (www.stelesys.com [208.177.187.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9270237B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerry@bellnetworks.net) Received: from jbell (client109096.atl.mediaone.net [24.31.109.96]) (authenticated) by stelesys.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f732UB226117 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:30:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerry@bellnetworks.net) Message-ID: <016301c11bc4$43caf900$0a01a8c0@jbell> From: "Jerry Bell" To: References: <200107292313.f6TNDxh01070@awww.jeah.net> <20010729165859.A16423@csua.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: No TTYs? Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:30:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Filter-Version: 1.3 (www.stelesys.com) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After recompiling to rid myself of the telnetd bug, I ended up seeing this exact problem. Basically, if one logs on, then logs off, the next time he logs in he gets the next sequential pty, even if he is the only user on the system. Oddly, right after a reboot, I cannot reproduce this problem, but after a day of uptime, I'm almost out of pty's again, and will have to reboot again before morning, it appears. Is anyone else seeing this problem? any ideas on how to fix, or provide more useful troubleshooting info? the sourced was synched and recompiled just before "Sat Jul 28 21:23:49 EDT 2001" Thanks, Jerry http://www.syslog.org > > I'm not sure if this is your problem, but if you mean 250 _simultaneous_ > users, then you're going to run into the 256 pty hard limit. > > I help run a server which often has more than 200 users logged in, > many of whom run screen. We ran out of pty's long ago. You're > welcome to try out our patches to increase the limit to 2048. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 19:41: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from updraft.jp.freebsd.org (updraft.jp.FreeBSD.ORG [210.157.158.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CE237B503 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by updraft.jp.freebsd.org (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet id f732ema02869 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:40:48 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 29 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:40:38 +0900 Message-Id: <20010803114038W.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG andrew> Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD andrew> 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? I think changing a version string is not a good idea. 4.3-RELEASE is 4.3-RELEASE and nothing else. The version string available by uname(3) comes from kernel MIB, and have no relationship to userland. How kernel knows that a userland have security-fixed libcrypto? No, no way to do that. Yes, there are much requirements to know "how many patches are applied to a system," but we cannot use version string to accomplish this. The only solution is to create a "patch history" database or file, but it's too hard, since there are lots of ways to update 4.3 box (CVSup sources, apply a patch, install security package, etc). But it's simple that you (a system administrator) record a patch history to your memory or whatever. Note that there are some potential pitfalls if we change a version string from 4.3-RELEASE to 4.3-WHATEVER; some scripts may check a system version's string to know that system is "4.3-RELEASE" or not. Again, changing a version doesn't solve any problems except showing "this system is 4.3-RELEASE but some patch (can't know how many) are applied to somewhere (can't know that libcrypto was fixed or not)." -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 19:43:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wow.atlasta.net (wow.atlasta.net [128.241.76.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E578837B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drais@wow.atlasta.net) Received: from localhost (drais@localhost) by wow.atlasta.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f732gu790913; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David Raistrick To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Andrew Boothman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special release > with extra security features. And complain when they get rooted. > We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" three or four times > per year. > > I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise. Agreed...If it just said -REL_ENG it would be fine, wouldnt it? Except that doesnt stable turn INTO REL_ENG in/during/around the prerelease code freeze? maybe -RELEASE-1 -RELEASE-2 for each update that hits REL_ENG? or even -RELEASE-yearmonthday ala -STABLE? I suppose the later would make more sense... ....david --- david raistrick (deep in the south georgia woods) drais@atlasta.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 20:13:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.xrxgsn.com (unknown [216.42.106.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE9437B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike.porter@xrxgsn.com) Received: from laptop (1Cust127.tnt3.salt-lake-city.ut.da.uu.net [63.11.215.127]) by mailhost.xrxgsn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA01780; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <03f501c11bc9$fec84a00$0300a8c0@laptop> From: "Mike Porter" To: "Ted Sikora" , Subject: Re: Bridge? Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:22:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Ted Sikora To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Bridge? >Ted Sikora wrote: >> >> I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: >> invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) >> has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the >> machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a >> firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. >> > >That was it. I guess the Bridge option is needed with cable and dsl >modems. > Well geezs if that's all I have to do.... I have been getting those, but I thought it was related to, being on cable, someone trying a windoze exploit. (smb_stat==something related to samba/windows networkng (SMB), at least in my mind...) mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 20:16:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0717D37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from nantai.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp by nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.11.2/1.1.29.3/26Jan01-1134AM) id f733Gbc21291; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:16:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp by nantai.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.11.2/1.1.29.3/30Jan01-0241PM) id f733Gbl82799; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:16:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:pSkP4flFEHE5nDCwaj8L77gg3vh1PCgS@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.43.7]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W/zodiac-May2000) with ESMTP id MAA12642; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:26:14 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200108030326.MAA12642@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: PCVT breakage In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:56:16 -0400." <20010802165616.A3009@shell.monmouth.com> References: <20010802165616.A3009@shell.monmouth.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:26:13 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oops, My fault ;-< Try the patch below (quick fix). Kazu >Has anyone seen this -- It appears to be a problem with PCVT in my >kernel build. > >I wrapped the error a bit for readability. > >My last good build was 7/21/01. >Just trying to test it all during the code slush. > ># make >cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extension >s > -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -I../../contrib/ipfilter > -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_drv.c >In file included from ../../i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:95, > from ../../i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_drv.c:62: >../../dev/kbd/kbdreg.h:92: `NUM_KEYS' undeclared here (not in a >function) >../../dev/kbd/kbdreg.h:92: size of array `kb_lastact' has non-integer >type >*** Error code 1 > >I'll look into it further when I get home from work. > >-Bill Index: kbdreg.h =================================================================== RCS file: /src/CVS/src/sys/dev/kbd/kbdreg.h,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 kbdreg.h --- kbdreg.h 2001/07/20 14:49:54 1.15 +++ kbdreg.h 2001/08/03 03:14:49 @@ -29,6 +29,10 @@ #ifndef _DEV_KBD_KBDREG_H_ #define _DEV_KBD_KBDREG_H_ +#ifndef NUM_KEYS +#define NUM_KEYS 256 +#endif + /* forward declarations */ typedef struct keyboard keyboard_t; struct keymap; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 20:24:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2DC37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08011; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:23:42 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: David Raistrick Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Andrew Boothman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010802202342.A7987@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drais@wow.atlasta.net on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 07:42:56PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 07:42:56PM -0700, David Raistrick wrote: > > > Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special release > > with extra security features. And complain when they get rooted. > > We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" three or four times > > per year. > > > > I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise. > > Agreed...If it just said -REL_ENG it would be fine, wouldnt it? Except > that doesnt stable turn INTO REL_ENG in/during/around the prerelease code > freeze? No, it turns into "Release Candidate" -RC[1-9]. > maybe -RELEASE-1 -RELEASE-2 for each update that hits REL_ENG? or even > -RELEASE-yearmonthday ala -STABLE? I suppose the later would make more > sense... I could even live with "-RELEASE+". -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 20:31: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow025o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3499B37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:31:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from spatula.home ([62.31.80.67]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:30:23 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andrew Boothman To: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:30:20 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 03 August 2001 3:07 am, Chad R. Larson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 01:19:42AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the branch > > dedicated to security fixes and nothing else. > > Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special release > with extra security features. And complain when they get rooted. > We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" three or four times > per year. Agreed. Bloody newbies :-) But won't -SOLID have roughly the same sort of problems? People will think it is somehow more solid than -STABLE. I can see the questions now, "What is the difference between a -SOLID and a -STABLE machine?" :-) I don't think -SOLID really says security fixes. It says stability fixes to me, of which security fixes are just a part. My vote is still on -SECURITY. You'll never find a name that is all things to all people. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 20:58:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFB737B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08139; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:58:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:58:10 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Andrew Boothman Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010802205810.A8119@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home>; from andrew@cream.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 04:30:20AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 04:30:20AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > I don't think -SOLID really says security fixes. It says stability > fixes to me, of which security fixes are just a part. -FIXED ? > My vote is still on -SECURITY. You'll never find a name that is all > things to all people. This evening I'm favoring -RELEASE+ -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 21: 4:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc17 (citusc17.usc.edu [128.125.38.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD6337B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@citusc17) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc17 (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7344fu10422; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:04:41 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Boothman Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010802210441.C10332@citusc17.usc.edu> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OBd5C1Lgu00Gd/Tn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home>; from andrew@cream.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:31:41AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OBd5C1Lgu00Gd/Tn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:31:41AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD=20 > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? Yes, I'm planning to rename it to 4.3-SECURITY as soon as I get time to write a patch and run it by Jordan. Kris --OBd5C1Lgu00Gd/Tn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7aiLZWry0BWjoQKURAhkGAJwK45q4WhXqAB+5fkEBTVQt3/hJ/gCfY5jv lnp30RmMHU/ctMorr671ty4= =kdOR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OBd5C1Lgu00Gd/Tn-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 21:27:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web20103.mail.yahoo.com (web20103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62D1137B403 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:27:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from getzz1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010803042739.19440.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.8.72.253] by web20103.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 21:27:39 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: klein brock Subject: Re: upgrade To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15208.45993.948682.285624@guru.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG so.. by doing cvsup, my OS from FreeBSD4.2-STABLE will change automatically to FreeBSD4.3-STABLE ? Thanks. --- Mike Meyer wrote: > klein brock types: > > i want to upgrade my FreeBSD4.2-STABLE to > > FreeBSD4.3-STABLE > > > > can anybody help me ? or give me some suggestion > which > > doc should i read ? > > If you're running 4.2-STABLE - and not -RELEASE - > you're already most > of the way there. Updating your source tree again, > and reinstalling > the world should do the trick. The handbook covers > this at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html > > and following. > > -- > Mike Meyer > http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, > email for more information. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 21:51:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from radwaste.oaep.go.th (TruPPPC075.inet.co.th [203.151.30.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8EF37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by radwaste.oaep.go.th (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7355ZK09371; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:05:35 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: radwaste.oaep.go.th: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:05:32 +0700 From: pirat To: klein brock Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade Message-ID: <20010803120532.A9315@radwaste.oaep.go.th> References: <15208.45993.948682.285624@guru.mired.org> <20010803042739.19440.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010803042739.19440.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>; from getzz1@yahoo.com on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:27:39PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD radwaste.oaep.go.th 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:27:39PM -0700, klein brock wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:27:39 -0700 (PDT) > From: klein brock > Subject: Re: upgrade > To: Mike Meyer > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > so.. by doing cvsup, my OS from FreeBSD4.2-STABLE will > change automatically to FreeBSD4.3-STABLE ? > not just cvsup alone, you need to do some of `make' ,for example, make buildworld make KERNCONF=yourKernelconfig kernel make installworld rgds, psr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 21:57:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herbelot.dyndns.org (d211.dhcp212-26.cybercable.fr [212.198.26.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED53B37B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thierry@herbelot.com) Received: from herbelot.com (multi.herbelot.nom [192.168.1.2]) by herbelot.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA32877; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:02:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry@herbelot.com) Message-ID: <3B6A2F39.FC21D79@herbelot.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:57:29 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ADiNA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Also weird packet (Was: weird packet ... anyone) References: <20010803021033.57267.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ADiNA wrote: > [SNNIP] > i ignore the messages, and only yesterday that one person admitted he'd > been in my system for almost three weeks monitoring mails!!! > > Is fresh installing the only solution to this? absolutely : reinstall your machine ASAP, from a known-good source (for example a 4.3-Release install CD-ROM) do not forget to backup /etc and your data files -- Thierry Herbelot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 22: 5:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.genesyslab.com (mail1.genesyslab.com [198.49.180.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF60B37B403; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maximb@genesyslab.com) Received: from max.genesyslab.com (max.genesyslab.com [192.168.90.23]) by mail1.genesyslab.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA53473; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maximb@genesyslab.com) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:06:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Bolotin To: Cc: , Subject: VIA VT82C686A onboard sound broken Message-ID: <799EE74A3609D5119B6D0002B325A14C4CB1F2-100000@boxter.genesyslab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just update usr/sys/dev/sound/pci/via82c686.c to 1.4.2.4 2001/08/01 03:40:58 cg (from 1.4.2.3) and now I have no sound. here's dmesg of both kernels: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #1: Tue Jul 31 12:18:13 PDT 2001 max@trek:/usr/src/sys/compile/max Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1008.99-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 268353536 (262064K bytes) config> q avail memory = 258121728 (252072K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0325000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc032509c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 9 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: at device 4.4 on pci0 pcm0: port 0xb000-0xb003,0xb400-0xb403,0xb800-0xb8ff irq 5 at device 4.5 on pci0 xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xa400-0xa43f irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:97:76:e9:61 miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto atapci1: port 0x8800-0x883f,0x9000-0x9003,0x9400-0x9407,0x9800-0x9803,0xa000-0xa007 mem 0xc580 0000-0xc581ffff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xa000 on atapci1 ata3: at 0x9400 on atapci1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ata1-slave: identify retries exceeded ad0: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata0-master tagged UDMA100 acd0: CD-RW at ata1-master using WDMA2 and new one: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #2: Thu Aug 2 20:24:43 PDT 2001 max@trek:/usr/src/sys/compile/max Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1008.99-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 268353536 (262064K bytes) config> q avail memory = 258154496 (252104K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc031d000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc031d09c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 9 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: at device 4.4 on pci0 pcm0: port 0xb000-0xb003,0xb400-0xb403,0xb800-0xb8ff irq 5 at device 4.5 on xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xa400-0xa43f irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:97:76:e9:61 miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto atapci1: port 0x8800-0x883f,0x9000-0x9003,0x9400-0x9407,0x9800-0 ata2: at 0xa000 on atapci1 ata3: at 0x9400 on atapci1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ata1-slave: identify retries exceeded ad0: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata0-master tagged UDMA100 acd0: CD-RW at ata1-master using WDMA2 Aug 2 20:30:48 trek /kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Aug 2 20:31:52 trek /kernel: pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead Aug 2 20:32:23 trek /kernel: pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead Aug 2 20:32:52 trek /kernel: pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead Aug 2 20:33:34 trek last message repeated 2 times Aug 2 20:34:54 trek last message repeated 2 times what should I do to help find out what's wrong? Regards, Max To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 22:24:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dell.dannyland.org (dell.dannyland.org [64.81.36.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C43837B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:24:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: by dell.dannyland.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 347235C58; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:25:56 -0700 From: dannyman To: Randy Bush Cc: "Koster, K.J." , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: so where did the space go? Message-ID: <20010802222556.C28622@toldme.com> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FD9D3A@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from randy@psg.com on Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 05:28:48AM -0700 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 05:28:48AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: [...] > > Not all files show up. Many programs open a temp file an immediately delete > > it. The deleted file is no longer visible in the filesystem, but is still > > open in the program and can be used. It counts towards df(1), but not du(1). > > it was vmware under linux emul. lsof | grep /var To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 23:44:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A70737B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:44:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f736hCa20541; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:43:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: andrew@cream.org Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 23:43:12 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 39 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I vote we call the new branch "4.4-CABBAGE" since that has absolutely no prior connotations (related to software, anyway) for anyone and is self-evidently chosen to very deliberately not suggest anything, except perhaps that it might be a good time for some Borscht or a little Sauerkraut, in the reader's mind. I would also be content with RUTABAGA or BEET. - Jordan From: Andrew Boothman Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:19:42 +0100 > On Friday 03 August 2001 1:06 am, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > [-stable archive searching is currently unavailable - but I don't > > > think this has come up before] > > > > Yes, it's been at least twice. I started the first one, before > > there had been any commits to the branch. There was another two or > > three weeks ago. > > Whoops. Must have missed that somehow, apologies. > > > > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD > > > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? > > > > I've seen -SECURE suggested, but I think that would open a can of > > worms similar to the periodic discussions of what -STABLE really > > means. Around the office I call this branch the "most stable", but > > I think perhaps -SOLID has a nice ring to it... > > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the branch dedicated to > security fixes and nothing else. > > Jordan, care to make an official jkh-style pronouncement on doing this for > RELENG_4_4? :-) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 2 23:48:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vault12.wastelandranger.org (cn-237-242.dsl.stwr.brightok.net [205.162.237.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3371A37B405; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) Received: from localhost (jga@localhost) by vault12.wastelandranger.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f736ngA00573; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:49:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vault12.wastelandranger.org: jga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:49:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Joseph Anthony Reply-To: Joseph Anthony To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: , , Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I like Rutabaga, it has a nice ring to it, since that was the attack word for my friends cat, so you have my vote anyway. On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 23:43:12 -0700 > From: Jordan Hubbard > To: andrew@cream.org > Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > > I vote we call the new branch "4.4-CABBAGE" since that has absolutely > no prior connotations (related to software, anyway) for anyone and is > self-evidently chosen to very deliberately not suggest anything, > except perhaps that it might be a good time for some Borscht or a > little Sauerkraut, in the reader's mind. I would also be content > with RUTABAGA or BEET. > > - Jordan > > From: Andrew Boothman > Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:19:42 +0100 > > > On Friday 03 August 2001 1:06 am, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > > [-stable archive searching is currently unavailable - but I don't > > > > think this has come up before] > > > > > > Yes, it's been at least twice. I started the first one, before > > > there had been any commits to the branch. There was another two or > > > three weeks ago. > > > > Whoops. Must have missed that somehow, apologies. > > > > > > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like FreeBSD > > > > 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? > > > > > > I've seen -SECURE suggested, but I think that would open a can of > > > worms similar to the periodic discussions of what -STABLE really > > > means. Around the office I call this branch the "most stable", but > > > I think perhaps -SOLID has a nice ring to it... > > > > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the branch dedicated to > > security fixes and nothing else. > > > > Jordan, care to make an official jkh-style pronouncement on doing this for > > RELENG_4_4? :-) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > - -- .-. _-~\ .-. \==/ | Joseph Anthony ( O ) |\ O \ (___) (oo) | http://www.wastelandranger.org `-' /\\_-~ |v| () | jga@wastelandranger.org CAMBOT! GYPSY! TOM SERVO! CROOOOW! | ICQ #3923267 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBO2o7dVsv4MjRLilNEQKTXQCdFdT26NHZYXHwswC5Vk5wSOnCThwAoNvJ eyFxWkYu4yzsFdKtYVR3lNUp =GFJa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 0: 2:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13301.mail.yahoo.com (web13301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E576537B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ad1na@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010803070252.93133.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.106.241.163] by web13301.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 00:02:52 PDT Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: ADiNA Subject: Re: Also weird packet (Was: weird packet ... anyone) To: Thierry Herbelot Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3B6A2F39.FC21D79@herbelot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi; i _have_ a spare disk having OS and everything identical to the current one, except /var which have the mails and /home dir on a raid5 system. restore can be as simple as swapping disks, but i fear there are files in my /var or /home. is there anyway to detect programs that using the ports? thanks zaidi --- Thierry Herbelot wrote: > ADiNA wrote: > > > [SNNIP] > > > i ignore the messages, and only yesterday that one person admitted > he'd > > been in my system for almost three weeks monitoring mails!!! > > > > Is fresh installing the only solution to this? > > absolutely : reinstall your machine ASAP, from a known-good source > (for > example a 4.3-Release install CD-ROM) > > do not forget to backup /etc and your data files > > -- > Thierry Herbelot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 1:18:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1CF37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA32678; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:27:16 +0200 Message-ID: <3B6A5EDB.C7BA5C50@i-clue.de> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:20:43 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Jacoboni Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Please close this PR References: <86itg6gp3h.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric Jacoboni wrote: > > I don't know if it's the right place for this request (if not, please > ignore this message and feel free to redirect me). I just posted this using the "submit follow-up" link at the bottom of the page you mentioned. > I think the following open PR: > could be closed > before RELEASE. Since i've posted it, i'm using the both patches > mentionned without any problem. > -- > Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1300229378 secondes HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 2: 5: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dandelion.geeksimplex.org (cc53440-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.18.90.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4954737B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 02:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from icognito@geeksimplex.org) Received: from icognito by dandelion.geeksimplex.org with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15SatE-0006Xz-00 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 05:05:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 05:05:04 -0400 From: Gabriel Rocha To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803050504.C22714@geeksimplex.org> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ,----[ On Thu, Aug 02, at 11:43PM, Jordan Hubbard wrote: ]-------------- | I would also be content | with RUTABAGA or BEET. `----[ End Quote ]--------------------------- All things considered, could we have -BEET and not -RUTABAGA? Had a computer named rutabaga once, not very nice to me...prolly because it once belonged to an -ex, but thats a nother story...go -BEET go. --gabe -- "It's not brave if you're not scared." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 2:34: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAB037B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 02:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010803093357.ODSC19709.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 02:33:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3B6A7025.A5F8643F@home.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 05:34:29 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Bridge? References: <03f501c11bc9$fec84a00$0300a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Porter wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Sikora > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: Bridge? > > >Ted Sikora wrote: > >> > >> I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > >> invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > >> has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > >> machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > >> firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. > >> > > > >That was it. I guess the Bridge option is needed with cable and dsl > >modems. > > > > Well geezs if that's all I have to do.... > > I have been getting those, but I thought it was related to, being on cable, > someone trying a windoze exploit. (smb_stat==something related to > samba/windows networkng (SMB), at least in my mind...) > Ha! an old one is back: Aug 2 20:07:36 dhcp-209-54-72-117 /kernel: arp: 192.168.1.1 is on ed0 but got reply from 00:20:78:d4:a5:87 on dc0 *********************************** WHO IS THIS?? *********************************** Aug 2 20:08:02 dhcp-209-54-72-117 last message repeated 2 times Aug 2 20:10:00 dhcp-209-54-72-117 last message repeated 8 times I checked all my mac addreses .. IT'S NOT ON MY NETWORK! Unfortunately I was using 192.168.1.1 I changed the network addresses and so far it's quiet. That da** cable modem must be letting other users in from my node.?? I had this on one of my machines an attack?? Aug 2 10:03:08 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[424]: refused PORT 9.100.139.211,1195 from sungold10.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.115] Aug 2 10:25:20 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[466]: refused PORT 9.100.139.211,1213 from sungold10.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.115] Aug 2 10:45:15 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[479]: francess@fr.ibm.com of sungold4.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.100]: data connect from 194.196.100.101 for /bin/ls Aug 2 10:45:22 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[479]: francess@fr.ibm.com of sungold4.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.100]: data connect from 194.196.100.101 for /bin/ls Aug 2 10:46:12 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[485]: francess@fr.ibm.com of sungold5.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.101]: data connect from 194.196.100.114 for /bin/ls Aug 2 10:47:01 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[487]: francess@fr.ibm.com of sungold9.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.114]: data connect from 194.196.100.113 for /bin/ls Aug 2 10:47:58 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[489]: francess@fr.ibm.com of sungold10.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.115]: data connect from 194.196.100.99 for /bin/ls Aug 2 10:48:04 dhcp-209-54-72-114 ftpd[489]: francess@fr.ibm.com of sungold10.fr.ibm.com [194.196.100.115]: data connect from 194.196.100.101 for /bin/ls and it goes on.............. -- Ted Sikora tsikora@ntplx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 3:20:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.cluster.oleane.net (smtp4.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BFB37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rguyom@pobox.com) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-028.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.28]) by smtp4.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id f73AKcJ55417 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:20:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.chatgris.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B04A8196 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5DBCE191; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:26 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bridge? Message-ID: <20010803113526.B49580@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <03f501c11bc9$fec84a00$0300a8c0@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <03f501c11bc9$fec84a00$0300a8c0@laptop>; from mike.porter@xrxgsn.com on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 07:22:51PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 07:22:51PM -0600, Mike Porter wrote: > > I have been getting those, but I thought it was related to, being on cable, > someone trying a windoze exploit. (smb_stat==something related to > samba/windows networkng (SMB), at least in my mind...) Re-read Ted Sikora's message : > >> rpc.statd: invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^ sm_stat != smb_stat It's a Linux exploit. And rpc.statd is related to NFS, not SMB/Samba. -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 3:20:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DCB37B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:20:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rguyom@pobox.com) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-028.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.28]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id f73AKc824051 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:20:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.chatgris.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 377E0F6 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AAB86AB; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:11 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bridge? Message-ID: <20010803113511.A49580@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com>; from tsikora@home.com on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 06:48:42AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 06:48:42AM -0400, Ted Sikora wrote: > I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. Someone is trying the Linux rpc.statd remote root exploit on your machine. AFAIK it's harmless on your FreeBSD box. If you have implemented a firewall, be sure to use the "default-deny" method (ie deny everything and only let pass the things you actually use). I bet you don't want to provide NFS services to everyone on the earth... -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 3:49:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C997E37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73Ap7B00754; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200108031051.f73Ap7B00754@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: James Satterfield Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:39:55 PDT." <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA6B@exchange.epr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:51:07 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > # Begin rambling > The Perc 3QC is an AMI Enterprise 1600 card. I've got two of them. They both > suck. =) > I've done a LOT of disk IO benchmarking with the Perc 3Di and 3QC cards in > the last few months. Awful results. If anyone is interested, I could send > them some of my findings (and a few things Dell has said about the > performance). Basically, I ended up removing the QC cards, installing a few > 2 channel ultra160 cards, and running software raid because the hardware > solution was so poor. It was very nice of Dell to start including a branded > version of Veritas Volume Manager as their array management solution. Since there's no Veritas Volume Manager for FreeBSD, I assume this was on some other platform. I've had generally good reports about both the AMI and Adaptec controllers on FreeBSD, and if you have any specific gripes about the cards or drivers in this environment, we'd be glad to hear them. I'm sorry to hear that you had such a terrible time, but I don't think your reports are particularly germane. Regards, Mike -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 3:56:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4972337B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73AwaB00857; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:58:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200108031058.f73AwaB00857@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Ken Menzel" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PERC 3 Dell 2500 and FreeBSD 4.3 stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:33:13 EDT." <026901c11a8e$83c09880$711663cf@icarz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:58:36 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hope this helps others on Dell, it would be great to get Dell to > offers these controllers instead of those crappy PERC controllers, but > these I guess are too expensive??? There's not much more subjective than RAID controllers, except perhaps text editors. 8) I'm glad you're happy with the DPT controllers, but the other Adaptec controllers you're bashing are actually quite widely liked, and when they're working, they do perform noticeably better... -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 4: 8:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1CF37B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:08:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73BApB01043; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200108031110.f73BApB01043@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Steve Dobbs Cc: "Freebsd Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: USB question In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:39:27 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 04:10:51 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I was attempting to install my new MS optical Intellimouse on the USB port > instead of the PS/2 port, but I am getting the following when I do a 'dmesg' > after recompliing my kernel with the correct usb drivers: > > uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 > uhci0: Invalid irq 255 > uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS > > PNP is turned off in the bios, and the intellimouse works on the USB port in > when I'm changing the bios (so I know it's not hardware) You're stuffed until Warner gets the PCI interrupt routing code into -stable. Welcome to the Plug and Play universe. 8/ -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 4:23:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from host-2.jes-2.demon.nl (host-2.jes-2.demon.nl [212.238.176.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7193A37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jes@host-2.jes-2.demon.nl) Received: (from jes@localhost) by host-2.jes-2.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA94697 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:23:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jes) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:23:19 +0200 From: Jim Segrave To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt... Message-ID: <20010803132319.A90860@jes-2.demon.nl> Reply-To: jes@jes-2.demon.nl References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from "stable-digest" on Wed 01 Aug 2001 (13:13 -0700) Organisation: Demon Internet Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:05:56 -0400 (EDT) > From: Robert Watson > Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mike Porter wrote: [snip] > This is true--however, the inetd.conf file doesn't lend itself to > automated management, as it doesn't have an inline "disabled" flag. To > disable a service, you comment it out, making it hard for a program to > distinguish things which are legitimately comments, and things that are > disabled services. In the long term, it would probably make sense to > develop some sort of administrative tool for inetd.conf: however, I > concluded that doing so prior to 4.4-RELEASE was unlikely, and opted for > this. In the future, if such a tool is developed, I'd be happy to slot it > in instead of invoking EDITOR on it :-). > allowing it to either be manually enabled, or enabled by virtue of > dependencies (something we already support). I think it's trivial to distinguish services from comments - Perl regex: $commented_line =~ /^#+\s*(\S+)\s+(stream|dgram|raw|rdm|seqpacket)/; $service_name = $1; $active_service =~ /^(\S+)\s+(stream|dgram|raw|rdm|seqpacket)/; $service_name = $1; This is enough to let you parse a file and find all the services which are enabled or not. It should be a SMOP to have a little perl script to take the user through a list of services likely to be wanted and get a yes/no for each one, then go through the inetd.conf and ensure that all non-wanted services are commented out and wanted ones are uncommented if need be. -- Jim Segrave jes@jes-2.demon.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 4:44:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drkshdw.org (user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net [207.30.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8319537B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:44:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scorpio@drkshdw.org) Received: (qmail 9299 invoked by uid 85); 3 Aug 2001 11:44:27 -0000 Received: from scorpio@drkshdw.org by drkshdw.org with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4149. . Clean. Processed in 1.058852 secs); 03 Aug 2001 11:44:27 -0000 Received: from localhost.isni.net (HELO localhost) (scorpio@127.0.0.1) by localhost.isni.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 11:44:25 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:44:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Palmer X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Small error in LINT Message-ID: <20010803072224.X95653-100000@jeff.isni.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is probably a mostly unimportant observation. In LINT we see: # Allow user-mode programs to manipulate their local descriptor tables. # This option is required for the WINE Windows(tm) emulator, and is # not used by anything else (that we know of). # options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt The error is "and is not used by anyhting else (that we know of)." avifile (in ports) also uses USER_LDT xmovie (also in ports) uses it as well interesting to note, both are graphics utilities for watching video playback. Jeff Palmer scorpio@drkshdw.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 4:50: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0609737B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:49:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27323; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:49:52 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id EAA08585; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108031149.EAA08585@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: tribble@tribble.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if this thread is really relevant to this list, but assuming it is, my $.02. Mine came way late only after multiple emails with windriver. Once alerted they responded quickly. I wasn't sure how soon after a RELEASE was announced to start nagging them (anyone want to answer that?). While I waited, all sorts of trouble began happening related to version shear (ports stopped building because fetch was looking for older versions of sources, could not ftp some packages from stable mirrors, etc). Biggest of these problems was the 4.2 kernel wasn't able to deal with the new computer I had bought and for a while, I was running a 4.3 kernel on an otherwise 4.2-RELEASE system (at 56k a kernel is all I'm prepared to download). -r >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:53:02 -0600 >From: Paul >Subject: Re: Beware of WindRiver Systems! > >ditto. My 4.3-RELEASE cd's came late. I don't really care, though. I >rarely use the pressed CDs. I have a subscription because I'm a long-time >FreeBSD user/administrator, and I wish to contribute something to the >FreeBSD project. Since I don't code, I pay for a subscription, and try to >turn as many new people onto FreeBSD as possible, and help newcomers learn >the basics. Regardless, though, my 4.3 CD did come, albeit a bit late. > >Once upon a time, Tony Landells scribed: >> Hi Gerd, >> >> Maybe I'm just lucky, but I haven't had any problem. My 4.3 CDs >> arrived without any "intervention" on my part. Maybe a bit more >> slowly than I might have liked, but I don't need them at the moment >> so I don't really care. >> >> But then, they do say that Australia is "the lucky country" ;-) >> >> Tony >> -- >> Tony Landells >> Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 >> Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 >> Level 4, Rialto North Tower >> 525 Collins Street >> Melbourne VIC 3000 >> Australia > >Regards, >Paul > >http://www.tribble.net/ > >"A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." > -- Adlai Stevenson > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 5:19:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07B337B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 05:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F23E3E28; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 05:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758C43C12B; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 05:19:31 -0700 (PDT) To: Jeff Palmer Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small error in LINT In-Reply-To: <20010803072224.X95653-100000@jeff.isni.net>; from scorpio@drkshdw.org on "Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:44:24 -0400 (EDT)" Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 05:19:26 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010803121931.7F23E3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff Palmer writes: > This is probably a mostly unimportant observation. > > In LINT we see: > # Allow user-mode programs to manipulate their local descriptor tables. > # This option is required for the WINE Windows(tm) emulator, and is > # not used by anything else (that we know of). > # > options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt > > > The error is "and is not used by anyhting else (that we know of)." > avifile (in ports) also uses USER_LDT > xmovie (also in ports) uses it as well > > interesting to note, both are graphics utilities for watching video > playback. I fixed this 3 months ago. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 5:41:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0436737B406; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 05:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greid@FreeBSD.org) Received: from anubis.lan ([62.252.14.233]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010803124124.CTYM29790.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@anubis.lan>; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:41:24 +0100 Received: from sobek.lan (sobek.lan [192.168.0.1]) by anubis.lan (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73CfM739307; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:41:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from greid@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:41:15 +0100 (BST) From: George Reid X-X-Sender: To: Maxim Bolotin Cc: , , Subject: Re: VIA VT82C686A onboard sound broken In-Reply-To: <799EE74A3609D5119B6D0002B325A14C4CB1F2-100000@boxter.genesyslab.com> Message-ID: <20010803134023.J4805-100000@sobek.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Maxim Bolotin wrote: > Hi, > > I just update usr/sys/dev/sound/pci/via82c686.c to 1.4.2.4 2001/08/01 > 03:40:58 cg (from 1.4.2.3) and now I have no sound. I've just committed a fix for this; r. 1.4.2.5 of via82c686.c -- +-------------------+---------------------+ | George Reid | FreeBSD Committer | | +44 7740 197460 | greid@FreeBSD.org | +-------------------+---------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:17:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FC437B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73DHND14397; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB2 (mailhub2.mitre.org [129.83.221.18]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73DHMX18323; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub2.mitre.org with SMTP id 7350413; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:17:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3B6AA461.CB44CF54@mitre.org> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:17:21 -0400 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Schweizer Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Telnet References: <3B3A719B@webmail.swiss-web.com> <3B69581D.B40756E@mitre.org> <20010802225924.A1023@pc-service.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Schweizer wrote: > > I test all the above terms with no success (results was allways the same)! I test it also in KDE2 (xterm). > There it was much more better then under the console. How can resovle this? > If you would I can e-mail you off-topic my account information at > otaku.freeshell.org. How are you setting TERM? Where are you setting TERM? If you run echo $TERM does it show the right thing? You should see a difference with the grieviously wrong terminal settings. Do you have the same behavior with TERM=dumb? If so, either you are setting the variable in the wrong place (it needs to be set on the remote machine, not on the local one for telnet to work), or the environment on the remote machine is broken. > > > >Windows telnet is a terrible emulator, but if you consider it to work > > > >with > > > >"no problems" as a vt100 terminal, then you should have no problem > > > >getting > > > >equivelent functionality out of FreeBSD with the right term variable. > > > Which is your prefered TERM variable for telnet access? > > > > Unfortunatly it takes a bit of experimentation if the remote system is > > not > > FreeBSD based. > > > > If it is a FreeBSD system, try setting TERM to whatever the local > > terminal > > is set for (assuming all of the keys work on the local terminal). -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:25:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.227.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA36E37B407; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avatar+august2001@kew.com) Received: from xena (xena.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.148]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D7CEF15552; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006f01c11c1f$b6c0ff30$94cba8c0@xena> From: "Drew Derbyshire" To: "Jordan Hubbard" Cc: References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home><20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com><01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:25:07 -0400 Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks (http://www.kew.com/kendra) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about 4.4-RELENG? :-) or 4.4-POSTRELEASE. I also don't mind BEET ... I would prefer it didn't report BEET. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Hubbard" To: Cc: ; Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:43 AM Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > I vote we call the new branch "4.4-CABBAGE" since that has absolutely > no prior connotations (related to software, anyway) for anyone and is > self-evidently chosen to very deliberately not suggest anything, > except perhaps that it might be a good time for some Borscht or a > little Sauerkraut, in the reader's mind. I would also be content > with RUTABAGA or BEET. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:29:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-188.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126E437B43D for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f73DTVT72586 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:29:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:29:31 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803092931.E71845@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from owner-freebsd-stable-digest@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:03:00AM -0700 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From two separate posts [I get this in digest form] > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:31:41 +0100 > From: Andrew Boothman > Subject: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? ... > What with the recent security advisories on telnetd and also > OpenSSH, I decided to upgrade my nat/ipfw/squid box from > 4.3-RELEASE to RELENG_4_3. > This all went according to plan, and I am now the proud owner of a > slightly more secure box. > My only surprise was that, a "uname -r" still reports the OS > version as being 4.3-RELEASE. I guess, in a way, this still is > 4.3-RELEASE since it has had no other changes apart from a few > security patches. But, to me, this violates the idea that a > -RELEASE is a snapshot of a development branch. Because, you can > cvsup with tag=RELENG_4_3_RELEASE or tag=RELENG_4_3 and get two > (slightly) different sets of sources, both of which claim to be > the definitive 4.3-RELEASE. > Further, in my case, the RELENG_4_3 world was made on a different > box, and then exported to and installed on my gateway box, which > doesn't have any sources on it. How can I tell that the box is > running the patched 4.3-RELEASE and not the 'original' 4.3-RELEASE > as the sources are not available? > > Might it be time to invent a new development branch name like > FreeBSD 4.3-SECURITY or 4.3-PATCHED or something like that? .... You could use the exact same nomeclature obliquely refered to in UPDATING. RELEASE-4.3.0p9 All the 9 patches are documented in UPDATING. All are just patches to existing programs - and as I see it doesn't need the name changed at all, except maybe a patchlevel appeneded as suggested in notes. Any name change implies something more than a patch. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:30: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.227.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CF637B425; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avatar+august2001@kew.com) Received: from xena (xena.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.148]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 927F215547; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00b501c11c20$68379990$94cba8c0@xena> From: "Drew Derbyshire" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: , References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802210441.C10332@citusc17.usc.edu> Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:30:05 -0400 Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks (http://www.kew.com/kendra) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, I'm planning to rename it to 4.3-SECURITY as soon as I get time > to write a patch and run it by Jordan. That really does have the "better security than normal" issue. Another choice may be -FIX Since relatively few commits are made, I would actually prefer 4.4.1-RELEASE, 4.4.2-RELEASE .... that's what they really are, microreleases for fixes. I am not proposing the entire tree be tagged, which I understand is a very expensive CVS operation. -ahd- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:32:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from purus.tcoip (cerberus.tcoip.com.br [200.220.254.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC5C37B405; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br (0nidqupfb5nnznrf@dcs.intra.tcoip.com.br [192.168.60.194]) by purus.tcoip (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f73DU5A30277; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:30:05 -0300 Message-ID: <3B6AA752.4070003@tcoip.com.br> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:29:54 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010705 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Request for testers: multicast patch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Bcc'ed to -net] On http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ip_output.c there is a port to stable of the revisions 1.127 through 1.130 of /sys/netinet/ip_output.c. These patches do the following: 1) Enable one to send multicast packets without a default route or routes to the multicast addresses. 2) Enable one to send multicast packets on an interface without an address. 3) Prevent trouble if packets are sent through an interface without an address (vlan excluded). A similar version of these patches has been running on current for about three weeks (well, maybe 10 days if you exclude version 1.130 which addresses points 2 and 3). The main difference is that stable already has a check that is not present on current (I wonder why it was removed...). If a few people would be so kind as to test these patches... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:32:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8250E37B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: from ury.york.ac.uk (ury.york.ac.uk [144.32.108.81]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f73DW9822003; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:32:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (gavin@localhost) by ury.york.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73DW9K61568; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:32:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: ury.york.ac.uk: gavin owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:32:09 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Atkinson To: ADiNA Cc: Subject: Re: Also weird packet (Was: weird packet ... anyone) In-Reply-To: <20010803021033.57267.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doesn't really belong in stable, but... On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, ADiNA wrote: > while i have the same condition as Vlad, it did not stopped there. i > almost got the message everyday; > > Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1331 from 203.106.241.168:53 > Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1337 from 203.106.241.168:53 > Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1340 from 203.106.241.168:53 I get the same thing - i believe these are harmless. 203.106.241.168 will be your DNS server. Some DNS servers do try to reverse-connect... don't know why. > later on, i got these ... > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2027 > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2041 > .... Sendmail attempting to connect back to thelocalhost's 'biff' service (comsat) which runs on UDP port 512. Harmless. > i ignore the messages, and only yesterday that one person admitted he'd > been in my system for almost three weeks monitoring mails!!! I'm certain the above messages are unconnected to anybody having access to your system. Compare /var/log/messages with /var/log/maillog - each of the connection attempts to port 512 will correspond with a local user receiving mail. As for the others, using nslookup will reveal them errors. THey are nothing to do with somebody having compromised your box. As for that, your easiest option is to re-install from a known-good source (maybe a -RELEASE burned from the ISO?) Gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:35: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.227.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FCA37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avatar+august2001@kew.com) Received: from xena (xena.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.148]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 48F9E15552; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <012701c11c21$1e6bbc00$94cba8c0@xena> From: "Drew Derbyshire" To: "Drew Derbyshire" Cc: References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home><20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com><01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> <006f01c11c1f$b6c0ff30$94cba8c0@xena> Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:35:10 -0400 Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks (http://www.kew.com/kendra) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Derbyshire" To: "Jordan Hubbard" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:25 AM Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > How about 4.4-RELENG? :-) or 4.4-POSTRELEASE. I also don't mind BEET ... > I would prefer it didn't report BEET. Taken as a whole, this (previous) message nicely contradicts itself. Note to self: Don't write e-mail before breakfast. Also try proofreading for a change. I bad. *poof* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:37:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from naboo.ethz.ch (naboo.ethz.ch [129.132.17.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1308837B401; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlo@vis.ethz.ch) Received: by naboo.ethz.ch (Postfix, from userid 224) id 51218275B6; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:37:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Fat kernel, needs dieting (again :-) To: ast@marabu.ch (Adrian Steinmann) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:37:54 +0200 (CEST) Cc: carlo@vis.ethz.ch (Carlo Dapor), stable@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200108022049.WAA14916@marabu.marabu.ch> from "Adrian Steinmann" at Aug 02, 2001 10:49:01 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010803133754.51218275B6@naboo.ethz.ch> From: carlo@vis.ethz.ch (Carlo Dapor) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Someone said on stable@freebsd.org: > > > The other day a guy (sorry I forgot who) says that > > That was me, , see also > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29272 > > and the copy of the earlier message below. > But carlo@vis.ethz.ch (Carlo Dapor) questions this: > > And top(1) just works fine ? When I gzip(1)ed kernels in the past, everything > worked just fine, except for top(1) and IIRC ps, which could not access some > structure - sorry for being very vague here, it has been some time. > > We are refering to a kgziped LOADER (/boot/loader) not kernel! The > loader on the boot floppy can be kgzip-ed safely and the pr=29272 > above has the one-line patch enclosed. Maybe obrien@FreeBSD.org who > was working on this might incorporate this patch too, saving us > another 60k on boot floppies? I was actually referring to a gzip(1)'d /boot/kernel/kernel. I just tried it out and it works fine with top(1) and ps(1). Ciao, derweil, -- Carlo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:44:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5ED37B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:44:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@monkey-online.net) Received: from monkey-online.net (unknown [195.241.113.9]) by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9E636BF1 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:44:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B6AAC00.E6540896@monkey-online.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:49:52 +0200 From: Eric Veraart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Intel 82562ET Kinnereth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Does anyone know if the Intel 82562ET Kinnereth (NIC) will function properly under FreeBSD? It's integrated on the Intel D815EEA motherboard. Greetings, Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:45:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salseiros.melim.com.br (salseiros.melim.com.br [200.215.110.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DB037B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Received: from fazendinha (ressacada.melim.com.br [200.215.110.4]) by salseiros.melim.com.br (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f73Dh2G43044; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:43:02 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Message-ID: <01d101c11c22$d4eaada0$2aa8a8c0@melim.com.br> From: "Ronan Lucio" To: "Gavin Atkinson" , "ADiNA" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Also weird packet (Was: weird packet ... anyone) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:47:26 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, > > later on, i got these ... > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2027 > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2041 > > .... > > Sendmail attempting to connect back to thelocalhost's 'biff' service > (comsat) which runs on UDP port 512. Harmless. I have the same problem and I have sendmail disabled in such machine. I found this: biff 512/udp comsat #used by mail system to notify users # of new mail received; currently # receives messages only from # processes on the same machine Does anyone now how to disable new mail notify? ...Ronan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:46:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deimos.atltechgroup.com (deimos.atltechgroup.com [208.177.210.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF7837B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sreber@atltechgroup.com) Received: from [(hidden)] by deimos.atltechgroup.com for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id JAA26419; Fri Aug 3 09:46:06 2001 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010803094032.00b989d0@atltechgroup.com> X-Sender: sreber@atltechgroup.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:45:43 -0400 Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <012701c11c21$1e6bbc00$94cba8c0@xena> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> <006f01c11c1f$b6c0ff30$94cba8c0@xena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Scott Reber Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8/3/01 09:35 AM -0400, Drew Derbyshire wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Drew Derbyshire" >To: "Jordan Hubbard" >Cc: >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:25 AM >Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > > > > How about 4.4-RELENG? :-) or 4.4-POSTRELEASE. I also don't mind BEET >... > > I would prefer it didn't report BEET. > >Taken as a whole, this (previous) message nicely contradicts itself. > >Note to self: Don't write e-mail before breakfast. Also try proofreading >for a change. I bad. *poof* How about 4.x-PRODUCTION for the Security only fix branch? Since this is typically why it is used. ___________________________________________________________ Scott Reber voice: 770 977-7044 AtLANta TEChnical Group, Inc. fax: 770 793-8955 sreber@atltechgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:48:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nova.fnal.gov (nova.fnal.gov [131.225.121.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942F237B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04388; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:48:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:48:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman X-Sender: To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Subject: Re: Request for testers: multicast patch In-Reply-To: <3B6AA752.4070003@tcoip.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > On http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ip_output.c there is a port to stable > of the revisions 1.127 through 1.130 of /sys/netinet/ip_output.c. These > patches do the following: > If a few people would be so kind as to test these patches... I'd be willing to install the patches, but I'm not sure what I would do to test them...if you have some suggestions, I'll try it. On the other hand, I am already having a multicast related problem in -STABLE (also in 4.3-RELEASE) while using ipfilter. Simply loading the ipl.ko module (default pass all, with no rules loaded), causes multicast loopback to stop working. I've posted both on stable and ipfilter mailing lists and not gotten anyone interested in helping me figure this out... maybe I should try -net? - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:52:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6186E37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.159]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010803135216.PWOR24816.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:52:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3B6AAB5E.D42A8B28@home.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:47:10 -0400 From: Ted Sikora X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Bridge? References: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> <20010803113511.A49580@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 06:48:42AM -0400, Ted Sikora wrote: > > I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > > invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > > has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > > machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > > firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. > > Someone is trying the Linux rpc.statd remote root exploit on your > machine. AFAIK it's harmless on your FreeBSD box. How can I protect my Linux machines? The messages have appeared there occasionally too. > > If you have implemented a firewall, be sure to use the "default-deny" > method (ie deny everything and only let pass the things you actually > use). I bet you don't want to provide NFS services to everyone on the > earth... > That's what I did. /kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default -- Ted Sikora tsikora@ntplx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 6:54: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14001.mail.yahoo.com (web14001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39F6937B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m3lang3@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.201.25.77] by web14001.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:54:02 EDT Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG melange@yip.org here - my reverse DNS is broken, so I'm posting from here. Regarding -BEET, or -RUTABEGA, versus -PRODUCTION, or -SECURITY, or _any other meaningful name_: My suggestion is to choose one of the former. Why? If you give it any sort of name that might relate to what it *actually* is, there will be users that will read their own meaning into it, like they've been doing with -STABLE, -CURRENT, and -RELEASE. Choosing a nonsensical name will force them to read the documentation to know which one to pick. I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could you ask for? :P _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7: 1:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C18E37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73E1Gp11727 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:01:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73E1Fr17322 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:01:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f73E1EA17841 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:01:13 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QF519NVV; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:01:01 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B6AAE91.6050103@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:00:49 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2+) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Go for RUTABAGA. It's cute. Besides, Debian does it and everybody likes it. It allows us to pick names in honor of dead people. Yay. ;) We should scrap -STABLE for a more meaningless name, but I won't get into this. Is it me or this thing comes up about twice a month? A. -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:12:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from purus.tcoip (cerberus.tcoip.com.br [200.220.254.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70EE37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:12:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br (j1rhqtg5dr25x19g@dcs.intra.tcoip.com.br [192.168.60.194]) by purus.tcoip (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f73EApA31397; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:10:51 -0300 Message-ID: <3B6AB0DF.6090009@tcoip.com.br> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:10:39 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010705 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Zingelman Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request for testers: multicast patch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Zingelman wrote: > On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > >>On http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ip_output.c there is a port to stable >>of the revisions 1.127 through 1.130 of /sys/netinet/ip_output.c. These >>patches do the following: >> > >>If a few people would be so kind as to test these patches... >> > > I'd be willing to install the patches, but I'm not sure what I would do to > test them...if you have some suggestions, I'll try it. > > On the other hand, I am already having a multicast related problem in > -STABLE (also in 4.3-RELEASE) while using ipfilter. Simply loading the > ipl.ko module (default pass all, with no rules loaded), causes multicast > loopback to stop working. I've posted both on stable and ipfilter mailing > lists and not gotten anyone interested in helping me figure this out... > maybe I should try -net? You should try ip filter's author. Net might be better, but _the_ person is Bill Fenner, who is kind of busy lately. As for testing the patch, since you do use multicast (the patch does not affect normal IP traffic), you could simply use it and see if things stop working or the kernel panics... :-) I know the patch does what it intends to do (well, part of it), I just want to make sure it doesn't introduce any new bugs. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net sh (the default bourne shell in FreeBSD) supports command-line editing. Just ``set -o emacs'' or ``set -o vi'' to enable it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:13:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from updraft.jp.freebsd.org (updraft.jp.FreeBSD.ORG [210.157.158.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C504E37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by updraft.jp.freebsd.org (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet id f73EDIa19012 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:13:19 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20010803092931.E71845@wjv.com> References: <20010803092931.E71845@wjv.com> X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 13 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 23:13:00 +0900 Message-Id: <20010803231300N.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG bill> RELEASE-4.3.0p9 This would be better than others (I prefer '4.3-RELEASE_9'), but the release name is kept by kernel itself; you should reinstall your kernel and reboot even if only telnetd (or any other userland programs/libraries) is patched. There is a chance that writing release name to a file but... is it OK for all of us? -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:14:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from n4cnw.dyndns.org (user-24-214-56-75.knology.net [24.214.56.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3F537B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n4cnw@n4cnw.dyndns.org) Received: (from n4cnw@localhost) by n4cnw.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f73EEgs02282; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:14:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from n4cnw) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:14:42 -0500 From: Mike Murphree To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803091442.A2254@n4cnw.dyndns.org> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <3B6AAE91.6050103@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B6AAE91.6050103@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 10:00:49AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 10:00:49AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Go for RUTABAGA. It's cute. > > Besides, Debian does it and everybody likes it. It allows us to pick > names in honor of dead people. Yay. ;) > > We should scrap -STABLE for a more meaningless name, but I won't get > into this. > > Is it me or this thing comes up about twice a month? Yes, I'd vote for -BEATDEADHORSE anyday... Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:15:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate2.abacus.co.uk (mailgate2.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABFCF37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antony@dp.abacus.co.uk) Received: (qmail 7608 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 14:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dp.abacus.co.uk) (194.130.48.111) by mailgate2.abacus.co.uk with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 14:15:52 -0000 Message-ID: <3B6AB217.5417E301@dp.abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:15:51 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Reply-To: antony@abacus.co."uk" Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <3B6AAE91.6050103@lmc.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" wrote: > > Go for RUTABAGA. It's cute. > > Besides, Debian does it and everybody likes it. It allows us to pick > names in honor of dead people. Yay. ;) > > We should scrap -STABLE for a more meaningless name, but I won't get > into this. > > Is it me or this thing comes up about twice a month? I think we need to go for fruit names... we already have -CURRENT, we only need to rename -RELEASE, -STABLE and something for the fixes... We cannot use -APPLE, -APRICOT, -CHERRY nor -ORANGE or some company would get very sour... But there is -BANANA, -PEAR, -GRAPE, -NECTARINE, -TOMATO, -MELON, -STRAWBERRY, -RASPBERRY... Or maybe more exotically, -DUREN, -LYCHEE, -RUMBUTANG, -STARFRUIT... -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > A diplomat is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that > you will look forward to the trip. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5046B37B406; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09832; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:20:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:20:05 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: andrew@cream.org, chad@DCFinc.com, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803072005.B9770@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@freebsd.org on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 11:43:12PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 11:43:12PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I vote we call the new branch "4.4-CABBAGE" since that has absolutely > no prior connotations (related to software, anyway) for anyone and is > self-evidently chosen to very deliberately not suggest anything, > except perhaps that it might be a good time for some Borscht or a > little Sauerkraut, in the reader's mind. I would also be content > with RUTABAGA or BEET. > > - Jordan I think we should call it -FRED -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:43:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0A537B409 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15SgB7-000IXK-00; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:53 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f73EhrM25276; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:53 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: William Richard Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010803154352.A25257@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <01080212254800.01448@saffron.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <01080212254800.01448@saffron.my.domain>; from wdr@tdl.com on Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 12:25:48PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | Before you deinstall all of your X ports, make sure the new X server | works. And make sure you can go back to 3.3.6 relatively expeditiously | (mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11backup). The XFree86-4 X server dumped core on | my allegedly-supported Matrox Mystique shortly after starting, so I | never got past the configuration. If I hadn't had the old X11R6 | directory backed up, I would have been mightily screwed. I ran XFree86 -configure, then ran it again using that file. I got a signal 10 error, and a core dump. Does a signal 10 under XFree86 mean the same as a signal 10 in make world, namely bad memory? jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:51:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83DA37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (localhost.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E764CBABB; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:51:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <010101c11c2b$8a0ca320$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "j mckitrick" Cc: References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B69550D.3060803@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010802143532.A11148@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <01080212254800.01448@saffron.my.domain> <20010803154352.A25257@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:49:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes -- but there could be other causes as well (i.e. compile options were to optimized -- I have had this problem using -march=k6). Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "j mckitrick" To: "William Richard" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:43 AM Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 > | Before you deinstall all of your X ports, make sure the new X server > | works. And make sure you can go back to 3.3.6 relatively expeditiously > | (mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11backup). The XFree86-4 X server dumped core on > | my allegedly-supported Matrox Mystique shortly after starting, so I > | never got past the configuration. If I hadn't had the old X11R6 > | directory backed up, I would have been mightily screwed. > > I ran XFree86 -configure, then ran it again using that file. I got a signal > 10 error, and a core dump. Does a signal 10 under XFree86 mean the same as > a signal 10 in make world, namely bad memory? > > > > jm > -- > "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion > was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck > by a missile." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 7:57: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.wox.org (cr686582-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.23.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687A137B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Received: from localhost (rglidden@localhost) by zaphod.wox.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73EuuV63001; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:56:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rglidden@zaphod.wox.org) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:56:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Glidden X-X-Sender: To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <3B6AAE91.6050103@lmc.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <20010803104752.R62981-100000@charon.acheron.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Go for RUTABAGA. It's cute. > > Besides, Debian does it and everybody likes it. It allows us to pick > names in honor of dead people. Yay. ;) Actually, what Debian does makes a bit more sense than this. They have codenames for their development branches (woody, potato, etc), and then when a version is released, it gets a number (2.1, 2.2, etc). Security fixes occasionally get bundled up into a new release, which is given another number (2.2r1, 2.2r2, etc). Sure, people close to project still call versions by their codenames, but the numbers make it very clear for new users. I personally think changing to nonsensical names is perfect for development purposes. Changing -CURRENT and -STABLE would be a good idea. However, changing -RELEASE to -SOMESILLYWORD, or using -SOMESILLYWORD as the security branch implies that a) the software is childish or unprofessional, and b) the software is not "complete" in the sense that it is a tested, ready for use release. > Is it me or this thing comes up about twice a month? It will continue to come up, even with -SILLYNAME. People will go "Should I be using -RUTABAGA or -MELON? Why don't you call it -STABLE instead?" No matter WHAT name you pick, there will be confusion as to exactly what it means. So far, I think the best idea is to just leave it all alone, and at most, stick a patch number on the end of -RELEASE to indicate fixes from the security branch or go to a 3 digit versioning system (4.3.1, 4.3.2, etc). That was already done for FreeBSD 4.1.1, and although I don't know what technical issues it brought up, I thought it was very clear, from a user perspective, that it's just 4.1 plus a little extra. - Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8: 4:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A59F37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: by relay.butya.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 925AD289EF; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:04:37 +0700 (ALMST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.butya.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832012895C; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:04:37 +0700 (ALMST) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:04:37 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: Tim Zingelman Cc: Dimitry Andric , James Satterfield , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMBFS panic: malloc: wrong bucket (was: 4.3-20010721-STABLE) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1111356961-996851077=:47860" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1111356961-996851077=:47860 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Tim Zingelman wrote: > This is a known bug, but not fixed. I worked with the maintainer, Boris > Popov on it a little, but in my case it took some time between the mount > and the panic, and I was not able to give him login access to the > machines involved. As a result it remains unfixed. If you have a case > that panics immediately and can work with him, I think he would be > interested in getting this fixed. (I know I would :) Please try the attached patch. It fixes a nasty buffer overflow which may cause this panic. > > I'd recommend contacting the smbfs maintainer. It seems the kernel > > module for smbfs is now integrated into the main sources, but you > > still need to install a port. 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And make sure you can go back to 3.3.6 relatively > | expeditiously (mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11backup). The XFree86-4 X > | server dumped core on my allegedly-supported Matrox Mystique > | shortly after starting, so I never got past the configuration. If > | I hadn't had the old X11R6 directory backed up, I would have been > | mightily screwed. > > I ran XFree86 -configure, then ran it again using that file. I got a > signal 10 error, and a core dump. Does a signal 10 under XFree86 > mean the same as a signal 10 in make world, namely bad memory? From : #define SIGBUS 10 /* bus error */ This would seem to indicate not "bad memory", but "bad bus", if it indicates anything about the hardware at all. But it doesn't necessarily--I occassionally get sig 11s from a few "known suspects" (some KDE-related programs), but they don't adversely affect how I use my machine, and I can make buildworld without a care. If I started getting random sig 11s from programs that I know to work on other people's machines (ppp, for instance, or lpd) that I would begin to view my memory modules with a suspicious eye. It is possible to write a program which generates a sig 11 (or a sig 10) without having bad equipment. Dereferencing an uninitialised pointer is a good way to get a sig 11. So copping a sig 10/11 is not necessarily indicative of bad memory or bad bus, rather, it could indicate bad programmer. It's when you get these errors in programs that are known to work consistently on everyone else's machines (make buildworld on -STABLE, for instance, with no obvious complaints on the freebsd-stable list) that you should consider bad hardware. (Finally, after reading every one else's posts about how XFree86-4 works flawlessly on their machines, let me indulge in a degree of schadenfraude... [ ... ] ... okay, I'm done.) -- Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5659937B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA51292; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200108031516.IAA51292@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Request for testers: multicast patch In-Reply-To: <3B6AA752.4070003@tcoip.com.br> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at "Aug 3, 2001 10:29:54 am" To: daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > [Bcc'ed to -net] > > On http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ip_output.c there is a port to stable > of the revisions 1.127 through 1.130 of /sys/netinet/ip_output.c. These > patches do the following: > > 1) Enable one to send multicast packets without a default route or > routes to the multicast addresses. This might break part of the multicast propogation protection, IIRC this was a specific feature of the original Deering multicast code to prevent unwanted propogation of multicast packets on multihomed hosts. > 2) Enable one to send multicast packets on an interface without an address. > > 3) Prevent trouble if packets are sent through an interface without an > address (vlan excluded). What source IP address is used for 2 and 3??? -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64B837B406; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f73FK1m21717; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108031520.f73FK1m21717@ptavv.es.net> To: Mike Smith Cc: Steve Dobbs , "Freebsd Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: USB question In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2001 04:10:51 PDT." <200108031110.f73BApB01043@mass.dis.org> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:20:01 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 04:10:51 -0700 > From: Mike Smith > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > I was attempting to install my new MS optical Intellimouse on the USB port > > instead of the PS/2 port, but I am getting the following when I do a 'dmesg' > > after recompliing my kernel with the correct usb drivers: > > > > uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 > > uhci0: Invalid irq 255 > > uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS > > > > PNP is turned off in the bios, and the intellimouse works on the USB port in > > when I'm changing the bios (so I know it's not hardware) > > You're stuffed until Warner gets the PCI interrupt routing code into > -stable. Welcome to the Plug and Play universe. 8/ If you want to live a bit dangerously, Warner has patches for stable available now. They are working for several people (and not working for others). http://people.freebsd.org/~imp/pcic-stable.diff.15b (the version is subject to change and may be different by now.) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:30:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB2E37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA51319; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:29:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200108031529.IAA51319@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Also weird packet (Was: weird packet ... anyone) In-Reply-To: <01d101c11c22$d4eaada0$2aa8a8c0@melim.com.br> from Ronan Lucio at "Aug 3, 2001 10:47:26 am" To: ronan@melim.com.br (Ronan Lucio) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: gavin@ury.york.ac.uk (Gavin Atkinson), ad1na@yahoo.com (ADiNA), stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Hi All, > > > > later on, i got these ... > > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2027 > > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 > > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2032 > > > Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2041 > > > .... > > > > Sendmail attempting to connect back to thelocalhost's 'biff' service > > (comsat) which runs on UDP port 512. Harmless. > > I have the same problem and I have sendmail disabled in such machine. > > I found this: > biff 512/udp comsat #used by mail system to notify users > # of new mail received; currently > # receives messages only from > # processes on the same machine > > Does anyone now how to disable new mail notify? Change the Mlocal line in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, add option B to the flags= values. Read man mail.local, and src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:30:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CB637B409 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15SguU-000C2d-00; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:30:46 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f73FUkd30425; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:30:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:30:46 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: William Richard Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010803163045.C25346@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <01080212254800.01448@saffron.my.domain> <20010803154352.A25257@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <01080308113300.00854@saffron.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <01080308113300.00854@saffron.my.domain>; from wdr@tdl.com on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 08:11:33AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | indicate bad programmer. It's when you get these errors in programs | that are known to work consistently on everyone else's machines (make | buildworld on -STABLE, for instance, with no obvious complaints on the | freebsd-stable list) that you should consider bad hardware. Well, unless there was a subtle config problem I am unaware of. I saw a line in the log complaining about an illegal x86 extended instruction, but the program kept running. It died before opening a display. | | (Finally, after reading every one else's posts about how XFree86-4 | works flawlessly on their machines, let me indulge in a degree of | schadenfraude... Sorry, but what is 'schadenfraude'? jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:37: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [216.150.202.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF9737B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:37:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f73FZbx54754 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:35:37 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803113537.B54670@mushhaven.net> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <3B6AAE91.6050103@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B6AAE91.6050103@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 10:00:49AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 10:00:49AM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Go for RUTABAGA. It's cute. > > Besides, Debian does it and everybody likes it. It allows us to pick > names in honor of dead people. Yay. ;) I like this, and vote for -POUL for this branch, to forever pay homage to a recently departed writer. > We should scrap -STABLE for a more meaningless name, but I won't get > into this. > > Is it me or this thing comes up about twice a month? Yup. Conversely, that doesn't make it less of an issue, but I am .not. going down that path. :) Jamie > A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:37:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from purus.tcoip (cerberus.tcoip.com.br [200.220.254.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7648737B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br (4zd0598iux19pjrj@dcs.intra.tcoip.com.br [192.168.60.194]) by purus.tcoip (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f73Fa6A02803; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:36:06 -0300 Message-ID: <3B6AC4DA.30007@tcoip.com.br> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:35:54 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010705 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request for testers: multicast patch References: <200108031516.IAA51292@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >>[Bcc'ed to -net] >> >>On http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ip_output.c there is a port to stable >>of the revisions 1.127 through 1.130 of /sys/netinet/ip_output.c. These >>patches do the following: >> >>1) Enable one to send multicast packets without a default route or >>routes to the multicast addresses. >> > > This might break part of the multicast propogation protection, IIRC > this was a specific feature of the original Deering multicast code > to prevent unwanted propogation of multicast packets on multihomed > hosts. Not doing this would break the RFC on multicasting. It says there that the app specifies the interface on which it will send the multicast packet. And, specifically, if you have a default route, the application will send the packet on whatever interface it choses. If you have a route for the multicast address, even to loopback, it will send the packet on whatever interface it choses. The difference here is that we do not require that a route which will be ignored exists. Note that this does not result in an application sending packets on multiple interfaces unintentionally, nor the absence of this patch prevents such applications from doing it intentionally. >>2) Enable one to send multicast packets on an interface without an address. >> >>3) Prevent trouble if packets are sent through an interface without an >>address (vlan excluded). > > What source IP address is used for 2 and 3??? For 2 it uses 0.0.0.0 (as per Bill Fenner's orientation in message to Ruslan). Point 3 is not really related to IP addresses. Rather, it just avoids assuming that IA is non-null. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net Exhilaration is that feeling you get just after a great idea hits you, and just before you realize what is wrong with it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:38:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39D1837B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 46364 invoked by uid 100); 3 Aug 2001 15:38:19 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15210.50539.1049.210763@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:38:18 -0500 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: andrew@cream.org, chad@DCFinc.com, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard types: > I vote we call the new branch "4.4-CABBAGE" since that has absolutely > no prior connotations (related to software, anyway) for anyone and is > self-evidently chosen to very deliberately not suggest anything, > except perhaps that it might be a good time for some Borscht or a > little Sauerkraut, in the reader's mind. I would also be content > with RUTABAGA or BEET. Only if we also rename -STABLE and -CURRENT to match. Personally, I like flightless birds - preferably extinct - but I can understand why that doesn't appeal to others. Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, though. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:49: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tdl.com (tdl.com [206.180.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C906637B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wdr@tdl.com) Received: from saffron.my.domain (pm5-87.tdl.com [206.180.234.87]) by tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25379; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:42:27 -0700 Received: (from wdr@localhost) by saffron.my.domain (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f73Fmux09051; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wdr) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: William Richard Organization: William Richard & Associates Ltd To: j mckitrick Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:48:55 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <01080308113300.00854@saffron.my.domain> <20010803163045.C25346@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20010803163045.C25346@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080308485501.00854@saffron.my.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 03 August 2001 08:30, j mckitrick wrote: > Well, unless there was a subtle config problem I am unaware of. I > saw a line in the log complaining about an illegal x86 extended > instruction, but the program kept running. It died before opening a > display. Did your screen change modes (maybe it went blank, maybe it clicked, maybe it popped a message up on the screen) before the X server died and left its ghoulish corpse on your hard drive? What sort of display hardware are you using? Doesn't happen to be a Matrox video card, does it (mine is)? I tried turning off various options in the config file, changing bit depths, etc., but had no joy... Still works under XFree86 3.3.6 at 32 b/p without a whinge. Yes, I did search the web (in Lynx, since my X server was not working at the time) for other people reporting similar problems. Found a few, but only questions, never answers. Feels like an old Chinese riddle. And maybe we should move this off freebsd-stable, as I wonder how -STABLE-related this conversation is... > | (Finally, after reading every one else's posts about how XFree86-4 > | works flawlessly on their machines, let me indulge in a degree of > | schadenfraude... > > Sorry, but what is 'schadenfraude'? scha.den.freu.de (n) [German, from Schaden damage + Freude joy]: enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others Being German, it should actually be capitalised. That's what I get for writing e-mail so early in the morning. -- Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 8:53:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516FB37B401; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9624CE8E; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13207; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:53:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id IAA17847; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108031553.IAA17847@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br Subject: Re: Request for testers: multicast patch Cc: ru@freebsd.org, mjacob@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:53:45 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2j/makemail 2.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It looks like the patch causes packets not to be sent if ia == 0. The inner part of the sendorfree: loop went from if (error == 0) { update if stats call if_output } to if (error == 0 && ia) { update ia stats call if_output } where I think it's more likely correct to do if (error == 0) { if (ia) update ia state call if_output } I realize this bug was just introducd in rev 1.131, but let's not propogate it to stable. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9: 5:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EDE37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73G5cF04037; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:05:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73G5bH65372; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:05:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> To: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Cc: Andrew Boothman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:58:10 PDT." <20010802205810.A8119@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20010802205810.A8119@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:05:37 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010802205810.A8119@freeway.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 04:30:20AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: : > I don't think -SOLID really says security fixes. It says stability : > fixes to me, of which security fixes are just a part. : : -FIXED ? : : > My vote is still on -SECURITY. You'll never find a name that is all : > things to all people. : : This evening I'm favoring -RELEASE+ Just so long as the -FOO is lexically bigger than "-RELEASE" so that string compares against 4.3-RELEASE work. This is why -RC and -PRERELEASE are both good choices for the code slush period. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9: 7:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB2C37B405; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73G7aF04045; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:07:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73G7aH65392; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:07:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108031607.f73G7aH65392@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: USB question Cc: Steve Dobbs , "Freebsd Mailing List (E-mail)" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2001 04:10:51 PDT." <200108031110.f73BApB01043@mass.dis.org> References: <200108031110.f73BApB01043@mass.dis.org> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:07:36 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200108031110.f73BApB01043@mass.dis.org> Mike Smith writes: : > I was attempting to install my new MS optical Intellimouse on the USB port : > instead of the PS/2 port, but I am getting the following when I do a 'dmesg' : > after recompliing my kernel with the correct usb drivers: : > : > uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 : > uhci0: Invalid irq 255 : > uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS : > : > PNP is turned off in the bios, and the intellimouse works on the USB port in : > when I'm changing the bios (so I know it's not hardware) : : You're stuffed until Warner gets the PCI interrupt routing code into : -stable. Welcome to the Plug and Play universe. 8/ And to be honest, I'm only targeting i386/pc98 without complex bridging. Hmmm, gotta try to alpha to make sure that I've not broken anything. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9:10:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4AC37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by poontang.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D80D1456; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:10:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:10:07 -0500 To: Warner Losh From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> References: <20010802205810.A8119@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:05 AM 8/3/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Just so long as the -FOO is lexically bigger than "-RELEASE" so that >string compares against 4.3-RELEASE work. I believe Kris Kennaway made a post yesterday explaining it would be called 4.3-SECURITY, or 4.4-SECURITY after 4.4-RELEASE. Waiting approval from jkh? >Warner --chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9:12: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0B637B408; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73GBtF04074; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:11:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73GBtH65445; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:11:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108031611.f73GBtH65445@harmony.village.org> To: "Kevin Oberman" Subject: Re: USB question Cc: Mike Smith , Steve Dobbs , "Freebsd Mailing List (E-mail)" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:20:01 PDT." <200108031520.f73FK1m21717@ptavv.es.net> References: <200108031520.f73FK1m21717@ptavv.es.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:11:55 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200108031520.f73FK1m21717@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes: : If you want to live a bit dangerously, Warner has patches for stable : available now. They are working for several people (and not working : for others). : : http://people.freebsd.org/~imp/pcic-stable.diff.15b (the version is : subject to change and may be different by now.) no, version 15 is still current, but I've had problems on one of my machines with usb in -current when PnPOS is set to yes. However, that's due to its ports not its irq. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9:17:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3EE37B408 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:17:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15She2-000Jjj-00; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:17:50 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f73GHnr30721; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:17:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:17:49 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: William Richard Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving to XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010803171749.D25346@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010802112630.A9855@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <01080308113300.00854@saffron.my.domain> <20010803163045.C25346@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <01080308485501.00854@saffron.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <01080308485501.00854@saffron.my.domain>; from wdr@tdl.com on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 08:48:55AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 08:48:55AM -0700, William Richard wrote: | On Friday 03 August 2001 08:30, j mckitrick wrote: | | > Well, unless there was a subtle config problem I am unaware of. I | > saw a line in the log complaining about an illegal x86 extended | > instruction, but the program kept running. It died before opening a | > display. | | Did your screen change modes (maybe it went blank, maybe it clicked, | maybe it popped a message up on the screen) before the X server died | and left its ghoulish corpse on your hard drive? No blanking or any apparent progress toward creating the X display. It dumps a bunch of messages to the screen (and log file) like X always does, then says: Fatal server error: Caught signal 10. Server aborting. | What sort of display hardware are you using? Doesn't happen to be a | Matrox video card, does it (mine is)? I tried turning off various | options in the config file, changing bit depths, etc., but had no | joy... Still works under XFree86 3.3.6 at 32 b/p without a whinge. Chips and Technologies 65555 on a Toshiba laptop | And maybe we should move this off freebsd-stable, as I wonder how | -STABLE-related this conversation is... Hmmm. It sure would be nice if version 4.x were as well integrated with -stable as 3.x was. There, now it's related to the list. ;-) | scha.den.freu.de (n) [German, from Schaden damage + Freude joy]: | enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others I only had 2 years. I forgot most of it, with no one around to practice with. jm -- "Investigators have discovered the cause of the TWA 800 explosion was a frayed wire. The wire became frayed when it was struck by a missile." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9:30:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-30-103.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5061737B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30661E019; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA14024; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id JAA18384; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108031630.JAA18384@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net Subject: Re: Request for testers: multicast patch Cc: daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br, stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:30:42 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2j/makemail 2.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> 1) Enable one to send multicast packets without a default route or >> routes to the multicast addresses. > >This might break part of the multicast propogation protection, IIRC >this was a specific feature of the original Deering multicast code >to prevent unwanted propogation of multicast packets on multihomed >hosts. This is only for packets sourced by the host, which the application has already explicitly requested a single interface for the packet to go out. See paragraph 3 of section 6.1 of RFC 1112. >> 2) Enable one to send multicast packets on an interface without an address. >> >> 3) Prevent trouble if packets are sent through an interface without an >> address (vlan excluded). > >What source IP address is used for 2 and 3??? 0.0.0.0. RFC 1122 section 3.2.1.3 says This host on this network. MUST NOT be sent, except as a source address as part of an initialization procedure by which the host learns its own IP address. but it's not up to the OS to determine whether or not the application is performing an initialization procedure by which the host learns its own IP address. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9:32:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tp.databus.com (p101-46.acedsl.com [160.79.101.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F1737B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@tp.databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by tp.databus.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f73GVbW00967; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:31:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:31:37 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: Gavin Atkinson Cc: ADiNA , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Also weird packet (Was: weird packet ... anyone) Message-ID: <20010803123137.A271@tp.databus.com> References: <20010803021033.57267.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from gavin@ury.york.ac.uk on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 02:32:09PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There's no such thing as a real UDP "connect" - what's happening is that the server is taking longer to respond than the requester is waiting, so the socket for the request source port is no longer open, and you have UDP log-in-vain turned on. Barney Wolff On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > Doesn't really belong in stable, but... > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, ADiNA wrote: > > > while i have the same condition as Vlad, it did not stopped there. i > > almost got the message everyday; > > > > Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1331 from 203.106.241.168:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1337 from 203.106.241.168:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP 203.106.241.163:1340 from 203.106.241.168:53 > > I get the same thing - i believe these are harmless. 203.106.241.168 will > be your DNS server. Some DNS servers do try to reverse-connect... don't > know why. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 9:35:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eve.framatome.fr (eve.framatome.fr [195.101.50.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C2E37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ubc@paris.framatome.fr) Received: from localhost (ubc@localhost) by eve.framatome.fr (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f73GXvk77338; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:35:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ubc@eve.framatome.fr) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:33:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Claude Buisson To: Fenix Cc: "'Steve Dobbs'" , Subject: RE: USB question In-Reply-To: <000d01c1193f$400c0c50$6c7a78d4@mash> Message-ID: <20010803182922.O77194-100000@eve.framatome.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Fenix wrote: > You need to turn on "assign irq for usb" in your bios I think it's > usually under the pnp settings > Greets Fenix > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Dobbs > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:39 PM > To: Freebsd Mailing List (E-mail) > Subject: USB question > > I was attempting to install my new MS optical Intellimouse on the USB > port > instead of the PS/2 port, but I am getting the following when I do a > 'dmesg' > after recompliing my kernel with the correct usb drivers: > > uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 > uhci0: Invalid irq 255 > uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS > > > PNP is turned off in the bios, and the intellimouse works on the USB > port in > when I'm changing the bios (so I know it's not hardware) > I get this error when I boot regardless of whether or not the mouse is > plugged into the usb port upon booting. I scoured my bios and found no > way > to 'turn on' usb support, but like I said, it seems to be on, because I > was > using the mouse on the usb port to navigate the bios menus. Does anyone > have any clue where else I should look? > I recently tried to configure an USB port on an ASUS TX97-E mb, which use the same chipset, and get rid of the error after turning on "USB IRQ Enable" AND "PNP OS" (which is the opposite of what is said in the dmesg ! > Steve Dobbs > Migrant WorkerSr. Unix Administrator > Network Telephone, Inc. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Claude Buisson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 10: 7:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from purus.tcoip (cerberus.tcoip.com.br [200.220.254.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C4437B407; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br (0bmygebhrjattr7q@dcs.intra.tcoip.com.br [192.168.60.194]) by purus.tcoip (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f73H4xA05095; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:04:59 -0300 Message-ID: <3B6AD9AD.10403@tcoip.com.br> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 14:04:45 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010705 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fenner Cc: ru@FreeBSD.ORG, mjacob@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request for testers: multicast patch References: <200108031553.IAA17847@windsor.research.att.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Fenner wrote: > It looks like the patch causes packets not to be sent if > ia == 0. The inner part of the sendorfree: loop went from > > if (error == 0) { > update if stats > call if_output > } > > to > > if (error == 0 && ia) { > update ia stats > call if_output > } > > where I think it's more likely correct to do > > if (error == 0) { > if (ia) update ia state > call if_output > } > > I realize this bug was just introducd in rev 1.131, but let's not propogate > it to stable. Duh! This is plain wrong. Stable is correct and needs no patch, as evidenced by the patch itself: @@ -936,7 +942,7 @@ /* clean ipsec history once it goes out of the node */ ipsec_delaux(m); #endif - if (error == 0) { + if (error == 0 && ia) { /* Record statistics for this interface address. */ if (ia != NULL) { ia->ia_ifa.if_opackets++; You see that the statistics are _already_ checked for ia == NULL. In the other point where we added the check for ia == NULL on current stable was correct too, I just didn't notice it was correct on both places when I generated the patch. I just wonder when and why the test went out of the window on current. I'll fix it (the patch and current). -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net Men of peace usually are [brave]. -- Spock, "The Savage Curtain", stardate 5906.5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 10:12:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E9837B401; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73HBs4128776; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:11:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:11:51 -0400 To: "Chad R. Larson" , Kris Kennaway From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:07 PM -0700 8/2/01, Chad R. Larson wrote: >On Fri, Aug 03, 2001, Andrew Boothman wrote: > > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the > > branch dedicated to security fixes and nothing else. > >Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special >release with extra security features. And complain when they >get rooted. We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" >three or four times per year. > >I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise. > >But I agree, it should be something other than -RELEASE. I agree it should change, and should not be -SECURITY or -SECURE. In the interest of keeping it simple and yet nondescript, I would prefer something like -RELEASE+ or -RELEASE-PLUS While something like BEET or RUTABAGA is also nondescript, I think that's a little too silly for this branch. I know several sysadmin's who have been very happy to have this branch around. I could see changing the *stable* branch to a name like beet, rutabaga, or maybe rawcarrot (which is then "cooked" for release... :-). Maybe that would finally get rid of the confusion of people who read too much into the name "stable". For that matter, perhaps we should name the "security-fixes" branch as -stable, and then change the branch we currently call stable to be -kitchen, and change -current to be -frontier or -scarymovie. [really, any naming scheme is fine by me personally. I'd just like to see if we could come up with something so we didn't have to debate some branch-name every three or four months. So, I hope that by tossing several disparate ideas out, maybe something will make sense. Note: 'disparate', not 'desperate' :-) ] -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 10:32:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-76-217.knology.net [24.214.76.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE43537B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) id f73HWPD07649; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:32:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:32:25 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Bob K Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803123225.A7633@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com>; from m3lang3@yahoo.com on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 09:54:02AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 09:54:02AM -0400, Bob K wrote: > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > you ask for? :P Suggest -FOO has a long standing meaning of nonsense in computer lingo. Or -FOOBAR. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 10:37: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586B837B410 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73Hb1p14584 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:37:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73Hb0C05732 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:37:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f73HawA02332 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:36:57 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QF519R7C; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:36:49 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B6AE124.5080501@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:36:36 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Yet again changing branch names? (Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE?) References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 7:07 PM -0700 8/2/01, Chad R. Larson wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 03, 2001, Andrew Boothman wrote: >> > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the >> > branch dedicated to security fixes and nothing else. >> >> Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special >> release with extra security features. And complain when they >> get rooted. We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" >> three or four times per year. ?? s/year/month/ ! >> I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise. >> >> But I agree, it should be something other than -RELEASE. > > I agree it should change, and should not be -SECURITY or -SECURE. > In the interest of keeping it simple and yet nondescript, I would > prefer something like -RELEASE+ or -RELEASE-PLUS > > While something like BEET or RUTABAGA is also nondescript, I think > that's a little too silly for this branch. I know several sysadmin's > who have been very happy to have this branch around. I could see > changing the *stable* branch to a name like beet, rutabaga, or maybe > rawcarrot (which is then "cooked" for release... :-). Maybe that > would finally get rid of the confusion of people who read too much > into the name "stable". Yah. -stable is really great, but it's gotta go. We have to *force* people to read the doc. It's the bottom line. When I discovered Debian, I heard of Potato, Slinky and stuff like that. I had no clue of what the heck they were talking about. I read. I learned. :) > For that matter, perhaps we should name the "security-fixes" branch > as -stable, and then change the branch we currently call stable to > be -kitchen, and change -current to be -frontier or -scarymovie. hmm... Here's what I think: 1. The security breanch could just be named what it is: -SECURITY_FIXES or -SECFIX. 2. "-stable" gotta go. Any fruit, household item, room, whatever name will fit. The problem we'll find is with the doc and the infrastructure (this list) that we can't change to follow changing names. 3. "-current" should also be renamed. "Evil dark overlord planning to take over the earth" could be a better name (but it might attract too much people). I suggest "-crap". That'll keep wanderers away. :) Not that we don't want people to use -current, we don't want people to use -current without knowing what they're doing. 4. And how about naming our releases? I know there are a lot of them (3/4 a year), but I like the idea of dedicating releases or naming them to funny names. :) > [really, any naming scheme is fine by me personally. I'd just like > to see if we could come up with something so we didn't have to debate > some branch-name every three or four months. So, I hope that by > tossing several disparate ideas out, maybe something will make sense. > Note: 'disparate', not 'desperate' :-) ] Here too. I could stay just like that. But I can't bear the freaking noise of having this thing over and over again. -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 10:37:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gifw.genroco.com (genroco.com [205.254.195.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E5A37B413 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:37:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from gi2.genroco.com (IDENT:root@gi2.genroco.com [192.133.120.3]) by gifw.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10364 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:37:07 -0500 Received: from scot.genroco.com (scot.genroco.com [192.133.120.125]) by gi2.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA03453 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:37:07 -0500 Message-ID: <01a601c11c42$ead177a0$7d7885c0@genroco.com> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:37:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Garance A Drosihn" > At 7:07 PM -0700 8/2/01, Chad R. Larson wrote: > >On Fri, Aug 03, 2001, Andrew Boothman wrote: > > > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the > > > branch dedicated to security fixes and nothing else. > > > >Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special > >release with extra security features. And complain when they > >get rooted. We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" > >three or four times per year. > > > >I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise. > > > >But I agree, it should be something other than -RELEASE. > > I agree it should change, and should not be -SECURITY or -SECURE. > In the interest of keeping it simple and yet nondescript, I would > prefer something like -RELEASE+ or -RELEASE-PLUS > How about naming the RELENG_X_Y branches -SQUASH? It's still a vegetable, and is descriptive that this branch squashes bugs. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 10:49:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B5837B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73HmlF03114; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:48:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3B6AE3FF.7C2B0E53@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:48:47 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 01:19:42AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > >> I've seen -SECURE suggested, but I think that would open a can of > >> worms similar to the periodic discussions of what -STABLE really > >> means. Around the office I call this branch the "most stable", but > >> I think perhaps -SOLID has a nice ring to it... > > > > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the branch > > dedicated to security fixes and nothing else. > > Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special release > with extra security features. And complain when they get rooted. > We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable" three or four times > per year. > > I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise. I don't believe 4.3-SECURITY implies anything. Compare and contrast: Why isn't STABLE stable? Why isn't SECURE secure? Why isn't SECURITY security? Wha! RELENG_4_3 is the "security fix branch relative to 4.3-RELEASE". SECURITY for short. Works for me, and apparently the security advisory team are happy with it too eg SA-01:51. Newbies, by definition, will get it wrong whatever it's called ;) > > But I agree, it should be something other than -RELEASE. > > > Jordan, care to make an official jkh-style pronouncement on doing this > > for RELENG_4_4? :-) > > Or, commit -SOLID to the RELENG_4_3 branch tonight? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 10:51:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7465E37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 51887 invoked by uid 100); 3 Aug 2001 17:51:30 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15210.58530.306585.285827@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:51:30 -0500 To: David Kelly Cc: Bob K , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010803123225.A7633@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803123225.A7633@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Kelly types: > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 09:54:02AM -0400, Bob K wrote: > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > you ask for? :P > Suggest -FOO has a long standing meaning of nonsense in computer lingo. > Or -FOOBAR. It's not a nonsense word, it's a placeholder. If you do that, I can no longer talk about tracking -FOO (or -FOOBAR) when I want to talk about tracking any of the branches. For programmers traditional nonsense words, try -XYZZY. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 11: 0:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9D637B412 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73I0LF03133; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:00:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3B6AE6B5.EC8E01F3@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:00:21 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802234312Z.jkh@freebsd.org> <15210.50539.1049.210763@guru.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer wrote: > > Jordan Hubbard types: > > I vote we call the new branch "4.4-CABBAGE" since that has absolutely > > no prior connotations (related to software, anyway) for anyone and is > > self-evidently chosen to very deliberately not suggest anything, > > except perhaps that it might be a good time for some Borscht or a > > little Sauerkraut, in the reader's mind. I would also be content > > with RUTABAGA or BEET. > > Only if we also rename -STABLE and -CURRENT to match. Personally, I > like flightless birds - preferably extinct - but I can understand why > that doesn't appeal to others. > > Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was > that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind > of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the > release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, > though. When you log on and MOTD tells you you have 4.3-RELEASE how do you know _which_ 4.3-RELEASE you have. The one with a broken telnetd or the one without. (You need to check the date of course). What if you have x00 4.3-RELEASE machines to secure? Checking files will take a lot longer than reading the MOTD and the build date. That assuming you haven't been rooted already of course. ;) > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 11:14:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corns2.dakotahdirect.com (corns2.dakotahdirect.com [216.64.128.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6BB37B411 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from btjones@dakotahdirect.com) Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? To: antony@abacus.co.uk Cc: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: btjones@dakotahdirect.com Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:07:49 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CORNS2/Dakotah(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/03/2001 11:07:32 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Antony T Curtis wrote: >"Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" wrote: >> >> Go for RUTABAGA. It's cute. > >We cannot use -APPLE, -APRICOT, -CHERRY nor -ORANGE or some company >would get very sour... > >But there is -BANANA, -PEAR, -GRAPE, -NECTARINE, -TOMATO, -MELON, >-STRAWBERRY, -RASPBERRY... > >Or maybe more exotically, -DUREN, -LYCHEE, -RUMBUTANG, -STARFRUIT... I think as long as we specifically avoid -LEMON things will be fine. Personally I think the idea of all this name changing is silly. I was one of those newbies to this list not very long ago and I once asked those questions "why is stable not stable?" If we go mucking about with the names, we're certain to be asked questions like "Okay, is -RAISIN the patched -GRAPE?" and "Why do you call it -BANANA? Why not just call it -RELEASE?" I think a version of FreeBSD which incorporates only patches that can be applied BOTH by CVSup and by simply adding patches one at a time, which seems to me is what the RELENG_4_3 branch is trying to do, is the same as applying any other system patch, and doesn't deserve a rename of the base OS. All that will do is for certain confuse scripts that use 'uname -a' to determine the installed OS. ---------------------------------- The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place. - Douglas Adams (1952-2001) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 11:22:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mmcable.com (fe2.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D8237B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: from [129.15.167.228] ([129.15.167.228]) by mail2.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:22:25 -0500 From: Mike Meyer Message-ID: <2.1-7761648-395-A-OEWW@smtp-server.mmcable.com> To: ian j hart Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:21:45 -0600 Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1 for PalmOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ian j hart wrote: >> Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was >> that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind >> of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the >> release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, >> though. > When you log on and MOTD tells you you have 4.3-RELEASE how do you > know _which_ 4.3-RELEASE you have. The one with a broken telnetd or > the one without. (You need to check the date of course). If it says -FOO, how do you know which one it is? The only thing changing the name eliminates is the unpatched case. > What if you have x00 4.3-RELEASE machines to secure? Checking files > will take a lot longer than reading the MOTD and the build date. That > assuming you haven't been rooted already of course. ;) The same way you do if you have a bunch of x00 4.3-FOO machines to secure. If you really want to test with telnet, you can set the login banner yourself. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 11:24: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-76-217.knology.net [24.214.76.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F47337B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) id f73ILWa07831; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:21:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:21:32 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803132132.A7809@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803123225.A7633@grumpy.dyndns.org> <15210.58530.306585.285827@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15210.58530.306585.285827@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:51:30PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:51:30PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > David Kelly types: > > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 09:54:02AM -0400, Bob K wrote: > > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > > you ask for? :P > > Suggest -FOO has a long standing meaning of nonsense in computer lingo. > > Or -FOOBAR. > > It's not a nonsense word, it's a placeholder. If you do that, I can no > longer talk about tracking -FOO (or -FOOBAR) when I want to talk about > tracking any of the branches. OK, then back to the fruits and vegetables, which rot when left sitting around and need to be replaced before then. I propose -TOMATO as its the favorite of rotten fruit throwers. Or -EGG for that which isn't ready to hatch yet (isn't that what we are really talking about, that iffy place between -STABLE and -RELEASE?) and then we could say of the one who broke it, has -EGG on his face? I'm getting too silly for -STABLE. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 11:50:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC2937B405; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73Inba25492; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:49:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: m3lang3@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, kris@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:49:37 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 12 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Bob K Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT) > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > you ask for? :P Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12: 4:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C90137B406; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11143; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:04:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f73J4NT07452; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:04:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:04:23 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: m3lang3@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803210423.B7340@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: Bob K > Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT) > > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > you ask for? :P > > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. 4.4-BIKESHED would be more appropriate. Can be painted in any color by the owner of the distrib media. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4CE37B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73J4BF03263; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:04:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:04:11 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? References: <2.1-7761648-395-A-OEWW@smtp-server.mmcable.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer wrote: > > ian j hart wrote: > >> Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was > >> that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind > >> of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the > >> release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, > >> though. > > When you log on and MOTD tells you you have 4.3-RELEASE how do you > > know _which_ 4.3-RELEASE you have. The one with a broken telnetd or > > the one without. (You need to check the date of course). > > If it says -FOO, how do you know which one it is? You don't. You know what it is NOT tho'. How does this help your argument to leave it at -RELEASE? > > The only thing changing the name eliminates is the unpatched case. Exactly. It's a clue stick. > > > What if you have x00 4.3-RELEASE machines to secure? Checking files > > will take a lot longer than reading the MOTD and the build date. That > > assuming you haven't been rooted already of course. ;) > > The same way you do if you have a bunch of x00 4.3-FOO machines to > secure. > > If you really want to test with telnet, you can set the login banner > yourself. I was thinking of a console login. Most of my servers are in one room. and luckily I don't have hundreds. In any case thay are all running 4.3-RELEASE. That's 4.3-RELEASE with the security patches, not the other 4.3-RELEASE. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12: 8: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87E137B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:08:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f73J80m81290; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:08:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:08:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon Message-Id: <200108031908.f73J80m81290@prism.flugsvamp.com> To: eric@monkey-online.net, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562ET Kinnereth X-Newsgroups: local.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: Organization: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: >Hello, > >Does anyone know if the Intel 82562ET Kinnereth (NIC) will function >properly under FreeBSD? It's integrated on the Intel D815EEA >motherboard. There have been many problems reported with this board/chip. Unfortunately, at this time the exact cause of the problem has not been identified; some boards work fine, while others choke. If you have a choice, I'd recommend not using this board. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A132A37B403; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73JDCF03301; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:13:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3B6AF7C8.C1D7B94@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:13:12 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > From: Bob K > Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT) > > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > you ask for? :P > > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. Please tell me you're joking. Imagine the jolity in the Linux camp! vegetable jokes If you want a reasoned argument - It sounds like beta, and we've been there before. > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:14: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.bsdhome.com (unknown [24.25.2.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508F137B406; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: from neutrino.bsdhome.com (jupiter [192.168.220.13]) by saturn.bsdhome.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73JE2q11929; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by neutrino.bsdhome.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f73JDvX77872; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:13:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:12:54 -0400 From: Brian Dean To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803151254.A77273@neutrino.bsdhome.com> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > you ask for? :P > > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. Not to mention that this opens up a whole new and un-tapped namespace for future branches. Why, just looking at the varieties of tomatoes or hot peppers alone, one can select from a pool of potential names for years to come. It also opens up a set of adjectives that naturally come to mind. For the -BEET branch that doesn't change much, for example, we can have -PICKLED-BEET, and so forth. :) -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:14:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nohow.demon.co.uk (nohow.demon.co.uk [212.228.18.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE8B37B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:14:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (noway@localhost) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73JEZO03747 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:14:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:14:34 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Marques To: Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20010803201317.X340-100000@nohow.demon.co.uk> X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. How about: 4.4-ITS_JUST_A_NAME__DEAL_WITH_IT__ ;-> -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:28:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97E037B408 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:28:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@monkey-online.net) Received: from monkey-online.net (unknown [195.241.113.9]) by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F3936C8F; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:28:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B6AFC99.B470CB96@monkey-online.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 21:33:45 +0200 From: Eric Veraart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Lemon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562ET Kinnereth References: <200108031908.f73J80m81290@prism.flugsvamp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Which ATX board with onboard NIC would you recommend then? Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > In article you write: > >Hello, > > > >Does anyone know if the Intel 82562ET Kinnereth (NIC) will function > >properly under FreeBSD? It's integrated on the Intel D815EEA > >motherboard. > > There have been many problems reported with this board/chip. > Unfortunately, at this time the exact cause of the problem has > not been identified; some boards work fine, while others choke. > > If you have a choice, I'd recommend not using this board. > -- > Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:36:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20DE37B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f73JaD297512; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:36:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010803152542.039d7190@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:30:31 -0400 To: Eric Veraart , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Intel 82562ET Kinnereth Cc: Jonathan Lemon In-Reply-To: <3B6AAC00.E6540896@monkey-online.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:49 PM 8/3/01 +0200, Eric Veraart wrote: >Hello, > >Does anyone know if the Intel 82562ET Kinnereth (NIC) will function >properly under FreeBSD? It's integrated on the Intel D815EEA >motherboard. Hi, The ET version of the chip works fine for me. The EM version dies a horrible death most of the time. e.g. fxp1: port 0xc400-0xc43f mem 0xd5101000-0xd5101fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci1 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:01:80:05:d2:67 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:37: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC6737B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@monkey-online.net) Received: from monkey-online.net (unknown [195.241.113.9]) by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B52336C57; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:36:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B6AFEAB.4F350821@monkey-online.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 21:42:35 +0200 From: Eric Veraart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Lemon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 82562ET Kinnereth References: <200108031908.f73J80m81290@prism.flugsvamp.com> <3B6AFC99.B470CB96@monkey-online.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BTW, I require the following things on my motherboard: - PC133 SDRAM support - 1 AGP slot - At least 2 PCI slots - Integrated 10/100mbit NIC - Preferably socket A, but socket 370 is also ok Thanx Eric Eric Veraart wrote: > > Which ATX board with onboard NIC would you recommend then? > > Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > > > In article you write: > > >Hello, > > > > > >Does anyone know if the Intel 82562ET Kinnereth (NIC) will function > > >properly under FreeBSD? It's integrated on the Intel D815EEA > > >motherboard. > > > > There have been many problems reported with this board/chip. > > Unfortunately, at this time the exact cause of the problem has > > not been identified; some boards work fine, while others choke. > > > > If you have a choice, I'd recommend not using this board. > > -- > > Jonathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:44:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from logicalhost.com (logicalhost.com [63.169.206.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6CD37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diesel@bsdvault.net) Received: from localhost (diesel@localhost) by logicalhost.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73JhUg41125; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: raymond hicks X-X-Sender: To: ian j hart Cc: Mike Meyer , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20010803153442.Q40305-100000@logicalhost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is 2 more cents for the pot... Why not call it what it is.. It is the "CURRENT" branch of that release. uname -a already gives you the date built. So perhaps you run into persons confusing the 2 CURRENT branches... but then you have the RELEASE tag to specify a difference. Complicated.. I think no. side note: My apologies for traffic related to troll posting on bsvault. No intent to cause problems... lates raymond hicks On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, ian j hart wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > ian j hart wrote: > > >> Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was > > >> that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind > > >> of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the > > >> release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, > > >> though. > > > When you log on and MOTD tells you you have 4.3-RELEASE how do you > > > know _which_ 4.3-RELEASE you have. The one with a broken telnetd or > > > the one without. (You need to check the date of course). > > > > If it says -FOO, how do you know which one it is? > > You don't. You know what it is NOT tho'. How does this help your > argument to leave it at -RELEASE? > > > > > The only thing changing the name eliminates is the unpatched case. > > Exactly. It's a clue stick. > > > > > > What if you have x00 4.3-RELEASE machines to secure? Checking files > > > will take a lot longer than reading the MOTD and the build date. That > > > assuming you haven't been rooted already of course. ;) > > > > The same way you do if you have a bunch of x00 4.3-FOO machines to > > secure. > > > > If you really want to test with telnet, you can set the login banner > > yourself. > > I was thinking of a console login. Most of my servers are in one room. > and luckily I don't have hundreds. In any case thay are all running > 4.3-RELEASE. That's 4.3-RELEASE with the security patches, not the > other 4.3-RELEASE. > > > > > > -- > > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > ian j hart > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 12:53:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD4C37B403; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73Jrn4145310; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:53:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:53:46 -0400 To: Jordan Hubbard , m3lang3@yahoo.com From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:49 AM -0700 8/3/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >From: Bob K >Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? >Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT) > > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more > > could you ask for? :P > >Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned >sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the >4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. 4.4-release-rose (for the release + bug fixes branch). Prettier than a beet, and a nicer color of red. Better for attracting more women to the project. You rarely impress a woman by sending her a dozen beets. Not "favorably impress", at least. so 4.4-release-rose, even though it's true that by any other name it would smell as sweet. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 13: 5:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573F337B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73JxSa26103; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:59:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: christopher@schulte.org Cc: imp@harmony.village.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> References: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:59:28 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 18 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:10:07 -0500 > I believe Kris Kennaway made a post yesterday explaining it would be called > 4.3-SECURITY, or 4.4-SECURITY after 4.4-RELEASE. > > Waiting approval from jkh? I think that implies a degree of committment which Kris, despite his very best intentions, probably can't actually fulfill. People assume quite a bit with respect to branches. I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in the name itself. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 13:32:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36CB37B403; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73KWTF03513; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:32:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3B6B0A5D.D87277FF@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 21:32:29 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? References: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > From: Christopher Schulte > Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:10:07 -0500 > > > I believe Kris Kennaway made a post yesterday explaining it would be called > > 4.3-SECURITY, or 4.4-SECURITY after 4.4-RELEASE. > > > > Waiting approval from jkh? > > I think that implies a degree of committment which Kris, despite his > very best intentions, probably can't actually fulfill. People assume > quite a bit with respect to branches. > > I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the > branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in > the name itself. If reasoned argument doesn't cut it I'll just have to invoke an ancient British playground tradition. BAGS I SECURITY. ;) AFAICT I was the first to propose a change. Yes you can blame me! But seriously folks, the security advisories are already using the 4.3-SECURITY terminology. I assumed it had been discussed internally. > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 13:35:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3F437B407; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:34:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f73KYtf09679; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:34:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:34:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: arch@FreeBSD.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Further tweaks to sysinstall to take into account inetd changes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Attached, please find an additional patch to sysinstall, which: - Reduces the number of offered security profiles, as we now have a more conservative default, and actually prompt specifically for inetd rather than handling it as a side effect of the security profile. Update the help file to reflect this change. - Rename "Fascist" to "Extreme" in the source code, to match the names presented. - Remove portmap and inetd from profile management. Portmap is now disabled by default, but automatically turned on if a feature requires it (such as NFS, etc). I'll probably commit this to -CURRENT within a day or so, assuming no widespread objections, and put it in the MFC queue for when I get release engineer permission to MFC. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 13:53:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5B337B407; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:53:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B670D1A64; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:53:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BDE9AA; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:53:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id NAA09881; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108032053.NAA09881@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:59:28 PDT." <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:53:28 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the > branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in > the name itself. Here's another vote for -BEET. I think you'll get similar problems (that you had with -STABLE) with -POSTRELEASE. To me, -POSTRELEASE sound similar to -STABLE. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 13:56: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D0C37B401; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f73Ktff09835; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:55:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: arch@FreeBSD.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Further tweaks to sysinstall to take into account inetd changes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone kindly pointed out that the patch I included lacked some content. Try below. Index: config.c =================================================================== RCS file: /spare/freebsd/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/config.c,v retrieving revision 1.185 diff -u -r1.185 config.c --- config.c 2001/08/02 03:53:36 1.185 +++ config.c 2001/08/03 20:26:28 @@ -487,52 +487,22 @@ return DITEM_SUCCESS; } -/* Use the most fascist security settings */ +/* Use the most extreme security settings */ int -configSecurityFascist(dialogMenuItem *self) +configSecurityExtreme(dialogMenuItem *self) { WINDOW *w = savescr(); - variable_set2("inetd_enable", "NO", 1); - variable_set2("portmap_enable", "NO", 1); + variable_set2("nfs_server_enable", "NO", 1); variable_set2("sendmail_enable", "NO", 1); variable_set2("sshd_enable", "NO", 1); - variable_set2("nfs_server_enable", "NO", 1); variable_set2("kern_securelevel_enable", "YES", 1); variable_set2("kern_securelevel", "2", 1); - /* More fascist stuff should go here */ if (self) msgConfirm("Extreme security settings have been selected.\n\n" - "This means that all \"popular\" network services and\n" - "mechanisms like inetd(8) have been DISABLED by default.\n\n" - "PLEASE NOTE that this still does not save you from having\n" - "to properly secure your system in other ways or exercise\n" - "due diligence in your administration, this simply picks\n" - "a more secure set of out-of-box defaults to start with.\n\n" - "To change any of these settings later, edit /etc/rc.conf"); - - restorescr(w); - return DITEM_SUCCESS; -} - -int -configSecurityHigh(dialogMenuItem *self) -{ - WINDOW *w = savescr(); - - variable_set2("inetd_enable", "NO", 1); - variable_set2("sendmail_enable", "YES", 1); - variable_set2("sshd_enable", "YES", 1); - variable_set2("portmap_enable", "NO", 1); - variable_set2("nfs_server_enable", "NO", 1); - variable_set2("kern_securelevel_enable", "YES", 1); - variable_set2("kern_securelevel", "1", 1); - - if (self) - msgConfirm("High security settings have been selected.\n\n" - "This means that most \"popular\" network services and\n" - "mechanisms like inetd(8) have been DISABLED by default.\n\n" + "Sendmail, SSHd, and NFS services have been disabled, and\n" + "securelevels have been enabled.\n" "PLEASE NOTE that this still does not save you from having\n" "to properly secure your system in other ways or exercise\n" "due diligence in your administration, this simply picks\n" @@ -543,54 +513,23 @@ return DITEM_SUCCESS; } -int configSecurityModerate(dialogMenuItem *self) { WINDOW *w = savescr(); - variable_set2("inetd_enable", "YES", 1); - if (!variable_cmp("nfs_client_enable", "YES") || - !variable_cmp("nfs_server_enable", "YES")) - variable_set2("portmap_enable", "YES", 1); - if (!variable_cmp("nfs_server_enable", "YES")) - variable_set2("nfs_reserved_port_only", "YES", 1); + variable_set2("nfs_reserved_port_only", "YES", 1); variable_set2("sendmail_enable", "YES", 1); variable_set2("sshd_enable", "YES", 1); variable_set2("kern_securelevel_enable", "NO", 1); if (self) msgConfirm("Moderate security settings have been selected.\n\n" - "This means that most \"popular\" network services and\n" - "mechanisms like inetd(8) have been enabled by default\n" - "for a comfortable user experience but with possible\n" - "trade-offs in system security. If this bothers you and\n" - "you know exactly what you are doing, select one of the\n" - "other security profiles instead.\n\n" - "To change any of these settings later, edit /etc/rc.conf"); - - restorescr(w); - return DITEM_SUCCESS; -} - -int -configSecurityLiberal(dialogMenuItem *self) -{ - WINDOW *w = savescr(); - - variable_set2("inetd_enable", "YES", 1); - variable_set2("portmap_enable", "YES", 1); - variable_set2("sendmail_enable", "YES", 1); - variable_set2("sshd_enable", "YES", 1); - variable_set2("kern_securelevel_enable", "NO", 1); - - if (self) - msgConfirm("Liberal security settings have been selected.\n\n" - "This means that most \"popular\" network services and\n" - "mechanisms like inetd(8) have been enabled by default\n" - "for the most comfortable user experience but with possible\n" - "trade-offs in system security. If this bothers you and\n" - "you know exactly what you are doing, select one of the\n" - "other security profiles instead.\n\n" + "Sendmail and SSHd have been enabled, securelevels are\n" + "disabled, and NFS server settings have been left intact.\n" + "PLEASE NOTE that this still does not save you from having\n" + "to properly secure your system in other ways or exercise\n" + "due diligence in your administration, this simply picks\n" + "a standard set of out-of-box defaults to start with.\n\n" "To change any of these settings later, edit /etc/rc.conf"); restorescr(w); Index: menus.c =================================================================== RCS file: /spare/freebsd/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c,v retrieving revision 1.312 diff -u -r1.312 menus.c --- menus.c 2001/08/02 03:53:36 1.312 +++ menus.c 2001/08/03 20:24:36 @@ -1673,10 +1673,8 @@ "Select a canned security profile - F1 for help", "security", /* help file */ { { "X Exit", "Exit this menu (returning to previous)", NULL, configSecurityModerate }, - { "Low", "Fairly wide-open (little) security.", NULL, configSecurityLiberal }, { "Medium", "Moderate security settings [DEFAULT].", NULL, configSecurityModerate }, - { "High", "Fairly safe security settings.", NULL, configSecurityHigh }, - { "Extreme", "Very restrictive security settings.", NULL, configSecurityFascist }, + { "Extreme", "Very restrictive security settings.", NULL, configSecurityExtreme }, { NULL } }, }; Index: sysinstall.h =================================================================== RCS file: /spare/freebsd/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall.h,v retrieving revision 1.211 diff -u -r1.211 sysinstall.h --- sysinstall.h 2001/08/02 03:53:36 1.211 +++ sysinstall.h 2001/08/03 20:17:47 @@ -451,10 +451,8 @@ extern int configNFSServer(dialogMenuItem *self); extern int configWriteRC_conf(dialogMenuItem *self); extern int configSecurityProfile(dialogMenuItem *self); -extern int configSecurityFascist(dialogMenuItem *self); -extern int configSecurityHigh(dialogMenuItem *self); +extern int configSecurityExtreme(dialogMenuItem *self); extern int configSecurityModerate(dialogMenuItem *self); -extern int configSecurityLiberal(dialogMenuItem *self); extern int configTTYs(dialogMenuItem *self); /* crc.c */ Index: help/security.hlp =================================================================== RCS file: /spare/freebsd/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/help/security.hlp,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 security.hlp --- help/security.hlp 2001/03/11 23:47:12 1.2 +++ help/security.hlp 2001/08/03 20:23:55 @@ -3,19 +3,14 @@ which services are enabled (or disabled) by each of the canned security profiles: - Extreme High Medium Low - ------- ---- -------- --- -inetd NO NO YES YES -sendmail NO YES YES YES -sshd NO YES YES YES -portmap NO NO * YES -nfs_server NO NO ** *** -securelevel YES (2) YES (1) NO NO + Extreme Medium + ------- ------ +nfs_server NO * +sendmail NO YES +sshd NO YES +securelevel YES (2) NO NOTES: -* Portmap is enabled if the machine has been configured as either an NFS - client or an NFS server earlier in the installation process. -** If the machine has been configured as an NFS server, NFS will only run - on a reserved port. -*** No changes are made to the NFS configuration. +* If the machine has been configured as an NFS server, NFS will only run + on a reserved port. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 13:56:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jochem.dyndns.org (cc40670-a.groni1.gr.nl.home.com [217.120.131.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3455737B408; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:56:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jochem@jochem.dyndns.org) Received: (from jochem@localhost) by jochem.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f73KuJO36514; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:56:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jochem) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:55:18 +0200 From: Jochem Kossen To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803225518.A4509@jochem.dyndns.org> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > you ask for? :P > > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. > > - Jordan BEET reminds me of Debian Potato, although Debian didn't got the name from vegetables... Also, a beet isn't an example of something beautiful... How about these: -RELEASE: -RELEASE -R+Security-fixes: -GREENGRAS -STABLE: -ORANGE -CURRENT: -REDHOT Just my 0.02 Euro... Jochem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 14: 3:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smarthost2.mail.easynet.fr (smarthost2.mail.easynet.fr [212.180.1.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026CB37B408; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fonvi@easynet.fr) Received: from smtp1.mail.easynet.fr (slb-1-sippriv.mail.easynet.fr [10.0.1.57]) by smarthost2.mail.easynet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10D2B73E; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (adsl-4-150.adsl.easynet.fr [195.114.94.150]) by smtp1.mail.easynet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BEAB6A3; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:03:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.11.5/8.11.4/ - 31/07/01) id f73L6fe57081; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:06:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:06:41 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803230641.A56183@gothic.blackend.org> References: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:59:28PM -0700 X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:59:28PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the > branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in > the name itself. > Following many past threads i thought about one thing: what about changing 4.4-STABLE to 4.4-TRANS or 4.4-TRANSITIONAL ? and give STABLE name to RELENG_4_4 ? I understand that would be a big change, but maybe it would be more easy to everyone to understand what they run (RELEASE, STABLE, TRANSITIONAL or CURRENT) and make them more aware of what branch they track... (hmm TRACK can be a good name :) ). My 2 cents contribution... Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 14:11:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hindenburg.eboai.org (hindenburg.eboai.org [206.183.134.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4DF37B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chip@chocobo.cx) Received: by hindenburg.eboai.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F3055E2DB; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:11:45 -0400 From: Chip Marshall To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803171145.A59787@setzer.chocobo.cx> Reply-To: chip@chocobo.cx References: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010803230641.A56183@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.9i In-Reply-To: <20010803230641.A56183@gothic.blackend.org>; from fonvi@easynet.fr on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:06:41PM +0200 X-URL: http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On August 03, 2001, Marc Fonvieille sent me the following: > Following many past threads i thought about one thing: what about > changing 4.4-STABLE to 4.4-TRANS or 4.4-TRANSITIONAL ? and give STABLE > name to RELENG_4_4 ? > I understand that would be a big change, but maybe it would be more > easy to everyone to understand what they run (RELEASE, STABLE, > TRANSITIONAL or CURRENT) and make them more aware of what branch they > track... (hmm TRACK can be a good name :) ). I think that would cause way too much confusion, especially for newer users who may be reading older documentation that's running around the web. -- Chip Marshall http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ GCM/CS d+(-) s+:++ a20>? C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E--- W++ N+@ o K- w O M+ V-- PS PE Y? PGP++ t+@ 5 X R>+ tv+() b++>+++ DI++++ D(-) G++ e>++ h!>++ r-- y- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 14:13: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nova.fnal.gov (nova.fnal.gov [131.225.121.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D5A37B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08883 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:13:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:13:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010803225518.A4509@jochem.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. I can't resist... gotta keep this thread alive... maybe if we keep it going it will not start again :) I cast another vote for -BIKESHED. It doesn't mean anything and it is stange enough to motivate people to read some of the documentation :) - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 14:53:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from digital.csudsu.com (digital.csudsu.com [209.249.57.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA44437B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@csudsu.com) Received: by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9538622E02; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1CC1F002; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Molnar To: Cc: Marc Fonvieille , Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010803171145.A59787@setzer.chocobo.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about -MU for Maitance Update One thing I like about Solaris is the MUs for the version you have. Just bug fixes, no new features. The idea and nameing is already known to a good number of sysadmins out there. Stefan On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Chip Marshall wrote: > On August 03, 2001, Marc Fonvieille sent me the following: > > Following many past threads i thought about one thing: what about > > changing 4.4-STABLE to 4.4-TRANS or 4.4-TRANSITIONAL ? and give STABLE > > name to RELENG_4_4 ? > > I understand that would be a big change, but maybe it would be more > > easy to everyone to understand what they run (RELEASE, STABLE, > > TRANSITIONAL or CURRENT) and make them more aware of what branch they > > track... (hmm TRACK can be a good name :) ). > > I think that would cause way too much confusion, especially for newer > users who may be reading older documentation that's running around the > web. > > -- > Chip Marshall http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ > GCM/CS d+(-) s+:++ a20>? C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E--- W++ N+@ o K- w O M+ V-- > PS PE Y? PGP++ t+@ 5 X R>+ tv+() b++>+++ DI++++ D(-) G++ e>++ h!>++ r-- y- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 14:59:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBD3937B409 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 60823 invoked by uid 100); 3 Aug 2001 21:59:35 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15211.7879.635254.595670@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:59:35 -0500 To: ian j hart Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com> References: <2.1-7761648-395-A-OEWW@smtp-server.mmcable.com> <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ian j hart types: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > ian j hart wrote: > > >> Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was > > >> that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind > > >> of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the > > >> release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, > > >> though. > > > When you log on and MOTD tells you you have 4.3-RELEASE how do you > > > know _which_ 4.3-RELEASE you have. The one with a broken telnetd or > > > the one without. (You need to check the date of course). > > > > If it says -FOO, how do you know which one it is? > You don't. You know what it is NOT tho'. How does this help your > argument to leave it at -RELEASE? It doesn't. What it does do is nullify your argument for changing it. > > The only thing changing the name eliminates is the unpatched case. > Exactly. It's a clue stick. A very unreliable one. Given N commits on the branch, you have N+1 possible states for the system to be in. If you leave the name as is, you can't tell the difference between any of them. If you change the name, you can only tell the difference between 1 of them and rest, and you have N states you can't tell the difference between. If you're using that to decide whether or not your systems are in some way "safe", you need to be hit with *real* clue stick. > > > What if you have x00 4.3-RELEASE machines to secure? Checking files > > > will take a lot longer than reading the MOTD and the build date. That > > > assuming you haven't been rooted already of course. ;) > > The same way you do if you have a bunch of x00 4.3-FOO machines to > > secure. > > If you really want to test with telnet, you can set the login banner > > yourself. > I was thinking of a console login. Most of my servers are in one room. > and luckily I don't have hundreds. In any case thay are all running > 4.3-RELEASE. That's 4.3-RELEASE with the security patches, not the > other 4.3-RELEASE. Which tells me you've applied the patches for the race conditions in fts. If that's all you've applied, I'd advise updating your systems. Actually, the best suggestion I've seen is that the updates be labelled as point releases, so that if your systems only have the first patch applied, it'd be 4.3.1-RELEASE. That actually does the job you are wanting doine, which changing the name fails to do. It's not at all clear how that would interact with *real* point releases, though. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15: 3:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magrathea.epr.com (magrathea.epr.com [198.3.163.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9906537B408 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsatterfield@intertrust.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magrathea.epr.com (8.9.3/8.7.3) id PAA08350 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown(198.3.162.27) by magrathea.epr.com via smap (V5.5) id xma008284; Fri, 3 Aug 01 15:03:44 -0700 Received: from exchange.epr.com (exchange.epr.com [198.3.162.249]) by maguro.epr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17818 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.epr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:01:27 -0700 Message-ID: <720AE932C238D411B4D100C04F10DA6B0222BA75@exchange.epr.com> From: James Satterfield To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:01:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why not just leave this alone? The current naming convention has worked for how long? The horse is dead... Leave it in peace. James. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15: 5:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C4B737B408 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:05:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 61097 invoked by uid 100); 3 Aug 2001 22:05:14 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15211.8218.485113.861303@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:05:14 -0500 To: ian j hart Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <3B6B0A5D.D87277FF@ntlworld.com> References: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> <3B6B0A5D.D87277FF@ntlworld.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ian j hart types: > Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the > > branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in > > the name itself. > If reasoned argument doesn't cut it I'll just have to invoke an ancient > British playground tradition. BAGS I SECURITY. ;) > AFAICT I was the first to propose a change. Yes you can blame me! > > But seriously folks, the security advisories are already using the > 4.3-SECURITY terminology. I assumed it had been discussed internally. Hey, you *can't* call it -security, because the freebsd-security mail list already exists, and is used for things *other* than discussion about -whatever_the_H_E_double_hockey_sticks_we_call_it. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:13:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAED37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:13:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by poontang.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3BFD157D; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:13:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010803170055.03355828@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 17:13:29 -0500 To: Mike Meyer , ian j hart From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" In-Reply-To: <15211.7879.635254.595670@guru.mired.org> References: <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com> <2.1-7761648-395-A-OEWW@smtp-server.mmcable.com> <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:59 PM 8/3/2001 -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: >A very unreliable one. Given N commits on the branch, you have N+1 >possible states for the system to be in. If you leave the name as is, >you can't tell the difference between any of them. If you change the >name, you can only tell the difference between 1 of them and rest, and you >have N states you can't tell the difference between. If you're using >that to decide whether or not your systems are in some way "safe", you >need to be hit with *real* clue stick. Don't people keep old fashioned status-logs on their servers? Something as easy as: system.foo.org FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE 4.3.0p9 (RELENG_4_3) #0: Sat Jul 28 01:49:03 CDT 2001 cvsup: RELENG_4_3 @ Sat Jul 28 01:33:33 CDT 2001 and make world|kernel vulnerabilities: NONE For each box you maintain, update vulnerability status when new problem report hits the fan. Update when you cvsup, make world, patch parts of source and so on. The OS should report its 'patch' level more accurately, but the problem is there are far too many ways to update a box. Do I cvsup and make world? Do I cvsup and only install newly changed binaries? Maybe I manually apply a patch and rebuild part of my source. Or use the binary patches? Install a third party binary to replace FreeBSD's service altogether? You get the point. FreeBSD's flexibility comes back to shoot itself in the foot, here. No matter which approach you take, documentation may be a viable solution. >-- >Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ >Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. --chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:30:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C3837B408 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11479; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:30:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:30:16 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: ian j hart Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803153016.A10049@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010802170621.A7087@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080301194203.00395@spatula.home> <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com> <3B6AE3FF.7C2B0E53@ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B6AE3FF.7C2B0E53@ntlworld.com>; from ianjhart@ntlworld.com on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 06:48:47PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 06:48:47PM +0100, ian j hart wrote: > RELENG_4_3 is the "security fix branch relative to 4.3-RELEASE". > SECURITY for short. Works for me, and apparently the security > advisory team are happy with it too eg SA-01:51. Except that both the security officer =and= the release engineer can commit to the branch, and when it was first enacted it was described as for security fixes =and= egregious bug fixes. Calling it "4.3-STABLE+" would satisfy me, and rattle the fewest cages. Add the '+' whenever the first commit is made to the RELENG_4_X branch. And I'm sorry I started this all again. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:39:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D9237B403; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11524; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:39:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:39:50 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: christopher@schulte.org, imp@harmony.village.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803153950.C10049@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:59:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:59:28PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the > branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in > the name itself. I can live with -POSTRELEASE (not that we're taking votes), but -RELEASE+ says the same thing to me and does so with fewer characters. > - Jordan -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:41:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5.cluster.oleane.net (smtp5.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3213F37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rguyom@pobox.com) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (dyn-1-1-028.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.28]) by smtp5.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id f73Mfa435425 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:41:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.chatgris.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CE0D5192 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:21:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B96C7AB; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:21:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:21:56 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bridge? Message-ID: <20010804002156.B51744@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> <20010803113511.A49580@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <3B6AAB5E.D42A8B28@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B6AAB5E.D42A8B28@home.com>; from tsikora@home.com on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 09:47:10AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 09:47:10AM -0400, Ted Sikora wrote: > Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 06:48:42AM -0400, Ted Sikora wrote: > > > I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > > > invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > > > has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > > > machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > > > firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. > > > > Someone is trying the Linux rpc.statd remote root exploit on your > > machine. AFAIK it's harmless on your FreeBSD box. > > How can I protect my Linux machines? The messages have appeared there > occasionally too. That's a baaaaaad sign. :-( Check with your Linux vendor. They should be able to tell you if the particular version you are running is vulnerable or not. If it's vulnerable then reinstall thoses Linux boxes from scratch. > > If you have implemented a firewall, be sure to use the "default-deny" > > method (ie deny everything and only let pass the things you actually > > use). I bet you don't want to provide NFS services to everyone on the > > earth... > > > That's what I did. > /kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based > forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging limited to 100 > packets/entry by default Check your firewall rules. I can't really help there since I always used IPFilter (on OpenBSD) and not ipfw. If you can't receive anything on the external NIC due to the firewall rules and you still see the 'rpc.statd:' messages, then one of your internal box is owned (maybe the Linux ones you mentioned earlier). If you don't use NFS, then don't run portmapper. Search for 'portmap' in "/etc/rc.conf". -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:43:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505B837B403; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from equinox ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:43:25 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "'Chad R. Larson'" , "'Jordan Hubbard'" Cc: , , Subject: RE: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:43:45 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c11c6d$c133b950$6401a8c0@equinox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20010803153950.C10049@freeway.dcfinc.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I vote for -POSTRELEASE, if we were taking votes, that is. -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks, Inc. http://www.blinx.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Chad R. Larson Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:40 PM To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: christopher@schulte.org; imp@harmony.village.org; stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:59:28PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the > branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in > the name itself. I can live with -POSTRELEASE (not that we're taking votes), but -RELEASE+ says the same thing to me and does so with fewer characters. > - Jordan -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:46:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Mail.Uninterruptible.NET (unknown [216.7.46.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8940F37B408; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@catonic.net) Received: from Spaz.Catonic.NET (tnt6-216-180-4-167.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.4.167]) by Mail.Uninterruptible.NET (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73Mm2220927; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:48:02 GMT (envelope-from kris@catonic.net) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by Spaz.Catonic.NET (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73MkgZ26594; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:46:42 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:46:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Kris Kirby To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Tech-Support-Email: bofh@catonic.net X-Frames: I hate frames. Organization: Non Illegitemus Carborundum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > 4.4-release-rose (for the release + bug fixes branch). Prettier > than a beet, and a nicer color of red. Better for attracting > more women to the project. You rarely impress a woman by sending > her a dozen beets. Not "favorably impress", at least. Send her a dozen -ROSEs and her ISP will dump her account as well as making her really unhappy with you for sending her megabytes of useless data. :) ----- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:52:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tensor.xs4all.nl (tensor.xs4all.nl [213.84.53.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D3F37B408 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dim@xs4all.nl) Received: from matrix.xs4all.nl (matrix.xs4all.nl [192.168.1.2]) by tensor.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC603C1EA for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:52:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:52:35 +0200 From: Dimitry Andric X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/4) Business Reply-To: Dimitry Andric X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4216917435.20010804005235@xs4all.nl> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's just call it -DEADHORSE, that seems quite appropriate. ;-) Cheers, -- Dimitry Andric PGP Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dim/dim.asc Fingerprint: 7AB462D2CE35FC6D42394FCDB05EA30A2E2096A3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 15:53:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from reiters.org (reiters.org [64.40.73.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E249437B408; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:53:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denny@reiters.org) Received: by reiters.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A0B27D635; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:53:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:53:20 -0500 From: Dennis Reiter To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: m3lang3@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, kris@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803175320.B53056@reiters.org> References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:49:37AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Jordan Hubbard (jkh@freebsd.org): > From: Bob K > Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT) > > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > you ask for? :P > > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. > > - Jordan 4.4-FAIRINGS -- Denny Reiter denny@reiters.org So I don't hurt your feelings: happydenny@reiters.org www.scapegoats.org Me? A skeptic? Can you prove it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 16: 1:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B7B37B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from equinox ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:01:25 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "'Dimitry Andric'" , Subject: RE: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:01:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c11c70$44f3ae60$6401a8c0@equinox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <4216917435.20010804005235@xs4all.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG LOL! -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks, Inc. http://www.blinx.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Dimitry Andric Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:53 PM To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Let's just call it -DEADHORSE, that seems quite appropriate. ;-) Cheers, -- Dimitry Andric PGP Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dim/dim.asc Fingerprint: 7AB462D2CE35FC6D42394FCDB05EA30A2E2096A3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 16: 5:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lila.inti.gov.ar (lila.inti.gov.ar [200.10.161.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEAB37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from nav.inti.gov.ar ([200.10.161.45]) by lila.inti.gov.ar with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 15So12-0002RT-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:06:00 -0300 Received: from [200.3.113.169] ([200.3.113.169]) by NAV.inti.gov.ar (NAVGW 2.5.1.6) with SMTP id M2001080320084930635 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:08:49 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: fernan@pop3.inti.gov.ar Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:12:41 -0300 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Fernan Aguero Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Guys, Please call it what you want, but make it clear in the Handbook!!! From reading the handbook I thought of -STABLE as a relatively static code base, with just patches and fixes added now and then. It seems that -STABLE is a little more dynamic than that. Right now there are only mentions about -STABLE and -CURRENT in the handbook. -RELEASE should be made a little bit more clear. And definitely, if you installed -RELEASE once, and then updated it, it should be named something else. Perhaps -RELEASE should only be used for releases ... 4.3-RELEASE could be an alias to 4.3.0 and then we could get 4.3.1, 4.3.2, etc ... However it should be _clear_ that whenever you check out using cvs you get a snapshot of what is in _between_ releases (or microreleases). Lic. Fernan Aguero Instituto de Investigaciones Biotecnologicas Universidad Nacional de General San Martin INTI, Edificio 24 1650 San Martin Argentina Tel: (54-11) 4752-0021, 4580-7255 Fax: (54-11) 4752-9639 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 16: 8: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41E37B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.5/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73N85N04177 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:08:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:08:04 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Subject: strange TFTP behaviour!!! Message-ID: <20010804010154.M4160-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. This seems to be a never ending story :-( I reported several problems with 4.4-PRERELEASE and for 4.3-STABLE as for the 1st August 2001. These problems are highly related to our diskless stations and to NFS. Very often I see a kinf of 'NFS race 0:81' or similar message on the console of one of our slave servers which mounts its diskspace from a master server. On the other hand, we have problems with our diskless stations acting as X terminals. the image of PXEBOOT seems to be broken! It makes each terminal hang after it tries to boot. Then there is a TFTP problem! very often several terminals can not boot due to the fact of a TFTP timeout on the server - and I can not reproduce this behaviour! The same configuration, the same small network (and no outer influences!) and the same strange behaviour sometimes. I boot a terminal - and it works fine, I boot it again - and it stops working! Does someone observed the same strange behaviour? -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 16:13:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA7637B403; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f73NDSF05588; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:13:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f73NDRH68599; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:13:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108032313.f73NDRH68599@harmony.village.org> To: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Cc: Jordan Hubbard , christopher@schulte.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:39:50 PDT." <20010803153950.C10049@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20010803153950.C10049@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01080304302005.00395@spatula.home> <200108031605.f73G5bH65372@harmony.village.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20010803110818.021f6470@pop.schulte.org> <20010803125928M.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 17:13:27 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010803153950.C10049@freeway.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:59:28PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: : > I'm sold on either 4.4-BEET or 4.4-POSTRELEASE as a name for the : > branch. Neither one really implies very much that isn't obvious in : > the name itself. : : I can live with -POSTRELEASE (not that we're taking votes), but : -RELEASE+ says the same thing to me and does so with fewer : characters. And is lexicially larger than -RELEASE, which I think we're going to find is important. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 16:36:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056B537B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:36:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.159]) by femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010803233610.CWOW7798.femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:36:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3B6B3437.530CBC51@home.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:31:03 -0400 From: Ted Sikora X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Bridge? References: <3B69300A.3EC4C67E@home.com> <20010803113511.A49580@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <3B6AAB5E.D42A8B28@home.com> <20010804002156.B51744@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 09:47:10AM -0400, Ted Sikora wrote: > > Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 06:48:42AM -0400, Ted Sikora wrote: > > > > I have stable on both cable and dsl. The following message (rpc.statd: > > > > invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^) > > > > has been a mainstay in stable for some time. I have 2 nic cards in the > > > > machines. Do I need the 'options BRIDGE' in the kernel? I just set up a > > > > firewall and that did not eliminate the messages. > > > > > > Someone is trying the Linux rpc.statd remote root exploit on your > > > machine. AFAIK it's harmless on your FreeBSD box. > > > > How can I protect my Linux machines? The messages have appeared there > > occasionally too. > > That's a baaaaaad sign. :-( > Check with your Linux vendor. They should be able to tell you if the > particular version you are running is vulnerable or not. > If it's vulnerable then reinstall thoses Linux boxes from scratch. > > > > If you have implemented a firewall, be sure to use the "default-deny" > > > method (ie deny everything and only let pass the things you actually > > > use). I bet you don't want to provide NFS services to everyone on the > > > earth... > > > > > That's what I did. > > /kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based > > forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging limited to 100 > > packets/entry by default > > Check your firewall rules. I can't really help there since I always > used IPFilter (on OpenBSD) and not ipfw. > > If you can't receive anything on the external NIC due to the > firewall rules and you still see the 'rpc.statd:' messages, then one > of your internal box is owned (maybe the Linux ones you mentioned > earlier). > > If you don't use NFS, then don't run portmapper. Search for 'portmap' > in "/etc/rc.conf". I need NFS I found a /root dir in /tmp? on a Slackware box. I reinstalled it and putting in a 'deny all' firewall as soon as I can. -- Ted Sikora admin@unixos2.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 17: 3:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vault12.wastelandranger.org (cn-237-242.dsl.stwr.brightok.net [205.162.237.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0E337B408 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:03:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) Received: from localhost (jga@localhost) by vault12.wastelandranger.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7404Ka01209 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:04:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jga@wastelandranger.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vault12.wastelandranger.org: jga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:04:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Joseph Anthony Reply-To: Joseph Anthony To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 17:50:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix-shells.com (unknown [145.254.154.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCFF37B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bjoern@loenneker.com) Received: from mobile ([172.23.109.76]) (authenticated) by unix-shells.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f740oC139149 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:50:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bjoern@loenneker.com) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_L=F6nneker?= To: Subject: I4B is broken in 4.4-PRERELEASE Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:50:07 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG During make buildkernel: cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstr ict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual - fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/.. /include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstr ict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual - fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/.. /include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/i4b/driver/i4b_trace.c /usr/src/sys/i4b/driver/i4b_trace.c: In function `i4btrcioctl': /usr/src/sys/i4b/driver/i4b_trace.c:505: `I4B_TRC_GET' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/i4b/driver/i4b_trace.c:505: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/i4b/driver/i4b_trace.c:505: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/sys/i4b/driver/i4b_trace.c:506: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/UNIX-SHELLS. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. uname -a: FreeBSD unix-shells.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Sat Jul 28 23:13:49 CEST 2001 root@unix-shells.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/UNIX-SHELLS i386 Kernel: # Kernel configuration for UNIX-SHELLS.com machine i386 cpu I586_CPU ident UNIX-SHELLS maxusers 256 options INET #InterNETworking #options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa device eisa device pci device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives #device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device vga0 at isa? #pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) #device lpt # Printer #device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device miibus # MII bus support #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') device ep pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty 256 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) #pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling #pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) options QUOTA pseudo-device snp 10 #options NETGRAPH #options NETGRAPH_PPPOE #options NETGRAPH_ETHER #options NETGRAPH_SOCKET options PPP_BSDCOMP #PPP BSD-compress support options PPP_DEFLATE #PPP zlib/deflate/gzip support #options PPP_FILTER #enable bpf filtering (needs bpf) #pseudo-device bpf options AVM_A1_PCI device isic pseudo-device "i4bq921" pseudo-device "i4bq931" pseudo-device "i4b" pseudo-device "i4btrc" 4 pseudo-device "i4bctl" pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 pseudo-device "i4btel" 2 pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 options IPR_VJ # enable logging of the first n IP packets to isdnd (n=32 here) #options IPR_LOG=32 pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 pseudo-device sppp 4 #options NFS #options IPSEC #IP security #options IPSEC_ESP #IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC) #options IPSEC_DEBUG #debug for IP security options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT options IPSTEALTH options DUMMYNET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 20:52:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.xrxgsn.com (unknown [216.42.106.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4BC37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike.porter@xrxgsn.com) Received: from laptop (1Cust67.tnt3.salt-lake-city.ut.da.uu.net [63.11.215.67]) by mailhost.xrxgsn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA26271; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <017b01c11c98$a020dec0$0300a8c0@laptop> From: "Mike Porter" To: "Mike Murphree" , "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:50:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Mike Murphree To: Antoine Beaupre (LMC) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? >> >> Is it me or this thing comes up about twice a month? > >Yes, I'd vote for -BEATDEADHORSE anyday... > shouldn't that be -BEATDEADHORSETODEATH ? <(}: mike (the one with the lowercase M, who has had his say this issue at least once before, but not for the REL_ENG_4.3 tag) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 21: 8:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mugnolo.com (ip65.mugnolo.com [207.126.98.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E45437B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@mugnolo.com) Received: from libre (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mugnolo.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f74489E87943 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:08:11 -0300 (ART) Message-ID: <000b01c11c9b$13b7b640$b43efea9@libre> From: "Adrian Mugnolo" To: Subject: Q: upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:08:05 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Is there a reasonable way to upgrade systems running 4.0-RELEASE? I've synced the sources but I've repeatedly encountered compilation problems while building world. Thanks in advance. Regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 21:28:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.fuzion.za.org (pta-dial-196-31-185-63.mweb.co.za [196.31.185.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB54537B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyv@sec-it.net) Received: from localhost (psyv@localhost) by lucifer.fuzion.za.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f744TsR08439; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 06:30:00 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from psyv@sec-it.net) X-Authentication-Warning: lucifer.fuzion.za.org: psyv owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 06:29:50 +0200 (SAST) From: The Psychotic Viper X-Sender: psyv@lucifer.fuzion.za.org To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Andrew Boothman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010802205810.A8119@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On various days in Aug 2001, numerous people wrote: Ok heres my 2c ZAR which is probably worth literally nothing anywhere else, but how about -DDMMYY? Could even keep the -STABLE and append to that (or the various fruit(y)? and veggie related ideas) , working on the date of the src's the system was built on and then Advisories can state builds before fixed date are vulnerable and need be updated. That pose any problems? Also sorry if its been mentioned before just the threads gotten so long and involved I cant recall if it has been. Any objections or pointers feel free.:) PsyV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 21:40:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp23.singnet.com.sg (smtp23.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733E737B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proton@galaxynet.org) Received: from nextra (qtas2309.singnet.com.sg [165.21.54.139]) by smtp23.singnet.com.sg (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f744fHs11792 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:41:17 +0800 Message-ID: <001301c11c9f$f9b2b1a0$8b3615a5@nextra> Reply-To: "Adrian Pang Jia Hui" From: "Adrian Pang Jia Hui" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:43:14 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Proton proton@galaxynet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 21:41:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow028o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C476E37B405; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from spatula.home ([62.31.80.67]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:37:03 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andrew Boothman To: Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:36:57 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, kris@freebsd.org References: <20010803135402.94163.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20010803114937X.jkh@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01080403365700.00392@spatula.home> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Boy do I wish I hadn't started this now!] On Friday 03 August 2001 7:49 pm, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I like -BEET. It's short, means nothing, and is red. What more could > > you ask for? :P > > Indeed! Well put. Unless I hear truly strong and well-reasoned > sentiments to the contrary, I will tag and document this as the > 4.4-BEET branch when the time comes to create it. While I'm usually all for nonsensical names (my own machine is called spatula), I think we should try and pick something related, but clear. How do we feel about 4.4-RELEASE-PATCH1, 4.4-RELEASE-p1 or 4.4-RELEASEp1 for the first commit RELENG_4_4 and 4.4-RELEASE-p2 for the second.... ? This idea has already been mentioned by various other people, but seems to have been largely ignored by the rest of the conversation which, quite understandably, became more interested in vegetables and flightless birds. :-) I think this is the best option for several reasons : 1) It makes it clear that the version you are running is basically 4.4-RELEASE plus 'something'. 2) We can tell at a glance whether you are patched against a spacific vulnerability. Security advisories can say "patched in 4.4-RELEASE-p5 simply type 'uname -r' to determine if your system has been updated since the vulnerability was patched" My original problem with the concept with the -SECURITY name was that you can't tell if you have been patched against something. Of course, just calling it -SECURITY doesn't make it any more obvious, but the patch numbers do make it obvious. So calling a system -BEET, as much as I like the name, only addresses one of my original concerns. Patch numbers would address both. -- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 21:42:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp22.singnet.com.sg (smtp22.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4194637B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proton@galaxynet.org) Received: from nextra (qtas2309.singnet.com.sg [165.21.54.139]) by smtp22.singnet.com.sg (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f744h6632354 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:43:06 +0800 Message-ID: <001b01c11ca0$41b04260$8b3615a5@nextra> Reply-To: "Adrian Pang Jia Hui" From: "Adrian Pang Jia Hui" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:45:15 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe Proton proton@galaxynet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 22:22:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F0E37B407 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timothyk@server1.wallnet.com) Received: from localhost (timothyk@localhost) by server1.wallnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA07799 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:22:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Kellers Reply-To: Tim Kellers To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: firebird oddity Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When compiling firebird (interbase) from /usr/ports/databases/firebird, the make fails when it can't find -ldescrypt. When I check other (4.3-stable) FreeBSD servers I have, I find libdescrypt in /usr/obj...../libcrypt/ Is this the directory that firebird is looking for a file in, and, if it is, what program/port supplies the necessary executables (or .so) files? I took a look at the FreeBSD archive, didn't find anything that seemed appropriate, so I decided to ask the wizards, here. Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 22:59:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc17 (citusc17.usc.edu [128.125.38.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3744537B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@citusc17) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc17 (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f745vLv13023; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:57:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:57:20 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tim Kellers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firebird oddity Message-ID: <20010803225720.A12977@citusc17.usc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from timothyk@server1.wallnet.com on Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 01:22:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 01:22:07AM -0400, Tim Kellers wrote: >=20 >=20 > When compiling firebird (interbase) from /usr/ports/databases/firebird, > the make fails when it can't find -ldescrypt. When I check other > (4.3-stable) FreeBSD servers I have, I find libdescrypt in > /usr/obj...../libcrypt/ >=20 > Is this the directory that firebird is looking for a file in, and, if it > is, what program/port supplies the necessary executables (or .so) files? >=20 > I took a look at the FreeBSD archive, didn't find anything that seemed > appropriate, so I decided to ask the wizards, here. It probably should never have been linking against libdescrypt directly -- access to that library was supposed to be indirected through the libcrypt symlink (there used to also be a libscrypt which it could also point to). The libdescrypt library has gone away and libcrypt is an actual library now. Kris --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7a47AWry0BWjoQKURAvEbAJ41QpYBHlTvvKud10MKe0Sx4h9bUgCg0P3L NykelqevPpu8gSxV66o4Mhk= =XHY+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 23:25:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14602.mail.yahoo.com (web14602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A232737B403 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from just6979@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010804062540.69210.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.91.222.112] by web14602.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 23:25:40 PDT Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin White Reply-To: jowhite@bigfoot.com Subject: patch level in name? (Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself...) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01080403365700.00392@spatula.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Andrew Boothman wrote: --- snip --- > How do we feel about 4.4-RELEASE-PATCH1, 4.4-RELEASE-p1 or > 4.4-RELEASEp1 for > the first commit RELENG_4_4 and 4.4-RELEASE-p2 for the second.... ? > > This idea has already been mentioned by various other people, but > seems to > have been largely ignored by the rest of the conversation which, > quite > understandably, became more interested in vegetables and flightless > birds. :-) > > I think this is the best option for several reasons : > > 1) It makes it clear that the version you are running is basically > 4.4-RELEASE plus 'something'. > > 2) We can tell at a glance whether you are patched against a spacific > > vulnerability. Security advisories can say "patched in 4.4-RELEASE-p5 > simply > type 'uname -r' to determine if your system has been updated since > the > vulnerability was patched" > > My original problem with the concept with the -SECURITY name was that > you > can't tell if you have been patched against something. Of course, > just > calling it -SECURITY doesn't make it any more obvious, but the patch > numbers > do make it obvious. --- snip --- I just cvsupped to stable for the first time a few weeks ago. i've been reading the list and seeing all this confusion. i have to say i fully beleive it's from not reading the documentation thouroughly. i read the handbook, asked around a little, and read a bunch of FAQs. i've always felt i had a good idea of what -RELEASE , -STABLE, and -CURRENT meant. Reading all theis about names has confirmed what I had gathered, simply **from reading the docs**! Anyway, I have to agree with the idea of patches being incorporated into the name for RELENG_4_3. You'll be able to know from a glance what fixes are incorporated into a particular build on a particluar machine. Even if only effected binaries are rebuilt, you at least have a base to be sure of certain fixes. Since this branch is based mostly on security, quickly being able to tell what security fixes are present is a Good Thing. So I vote for either patch numbers (4.4-RELEASE-P2) or minor-minor (right term?) release versions (4.4.2-RELEASE). Unless perhaps release engineers want to reserve minor-minor version numbers for things that are too "big" for RELENG_4_3 type branched, whatever it ends up being called. Of course, if we do want to switch to naming every release, like Debian, or otherwise, both techniques still work. IE: 4.4-BEET-P2 or 4.4.2-BEET -Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 3 23:43:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98F137B406; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timothyk@server1.wallnet.com) Received: from localhost (timothyk@localhost) by server1.wallnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id CAA09474; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:43:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Kellers To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: firebird oddity In-Reply-To: <20010803225720.A12977@citusc17.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So sahould I await an update, or copy those libs from older (4.3-stable) servers and try the build again? Tim CPE/NJIT On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 01:22:07AM -0400, Tim Kellers wrote: > > > > > > When compiling firebird (interbase) from /usr/ports/databases/firebird, > > the make fails when it can't find -ldescrypt. When I check other > > (4.3-stable) FreeBSD servers I have, I find libdescrypt in > > /usr/obj...../libcrypt/ > > > > Is this the directory that firebird is looking for a file in, and, if it > > is, what program/port supplies the necessary executables (or .so) files? > > > > I took a look at the FreeBSD archive, didn't find anything that seemed > > appropriate, so I decided to ask the wizards, here. > > It probably should never have been linking against libdescrypt > directly -- access to that library was supposed to be indirected > through the libcrypt symlink (there used to also be a libscrypt which > it could also point to). The libdescrypt library has gone away and > libcrypt is an actual library now. > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 4 1:22: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842C137B401 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f743dZg01136; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200108040339.f743dZg01136@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Eric Veraart Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562ET Kinnereth In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:49:52 +0200." <3B6AAC00.E6540896@monkey-online.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:39:35 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does anyone know if the Intel 82562ET Kinnereth (NIC) will function > properly under FreeBSD? It's integrated on the Intel D815EEA > motherboard. Just for reference; the 82562ET is the external transceiver part; the MAC itself is integrated with the ICH2. As Jonathan has pointed out, there are problems with this device and our driver at the moment. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 4 1:52:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from admin.fbi.gov (plovdivppp246.internet-bg.net [213.137.32.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2AA37B406; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:46:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petko@admin.fbi.gov) Received: (from petko@localhost) by admin.fbi.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f748hKi30532; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:43:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from petko) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:43:04 +0300 From: Petko Popadiyski To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Signal Out of Range Message-ID: <20010804114304.A30498@admin.fbi.gov> Reply-To: petko_bg@cannabismail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I have 64MB ram and 100mb swap space. When i am out of swap space (it happens when i open big graphical file - like jpg - 1Mb, which overload Xfree): Aug 4 01:48:48 admin /kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed Aug 4 01:48:51 admin last message repeated 80 times Aug 4 01:48:51 admin /kernel: pid 369 (XFree86), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space In that cae my XFree86 freezes. I can't even move my mouse around, because it is actualy killed, but it is on my monitor, i mean i see it. The problem is not that my Xfree86 is killed when i don't have swap space. The problem is that when i try to switch to one of the consoles(ttys) my monitor crashes - it shows the message "SIGNAL OUT OF RANGE 83,5 KHz 160,0 Hz". I have tried many ways to fix this wihtout restarting, but i couldn't make it. If there is sense my ttyvs is working with allscreens_flags="-m on VGA_80x30", and 31.5 KHz and 60.8 Hz on 640x480 . My XFee86 is working with 56.5 KHz and 70.5 Hz on 1024x768 My monitor is CTX Trinitron PR500F. I am running FreeBSD 4.3 and XFree86-4.1.0_4. -- ---------======Petko======--------- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: Here is the XFree86 log. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="XFree86.0.log" XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 2 June 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Aug 3 23:15:18 2001 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "ctx" (**) | |-->Device "vanta" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1" (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "dell101" (**) XKB: model: "dell101" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "bg" (**) XKB: layout: "bg" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xcyr,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/local/AbiSuite/fonts/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (II) xf86ReadBIOS(f8000, e80, Buf, 2)-> d8 04 dc fa... (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 11 (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,002c card 0000,0000 rev 15 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x88 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0xd6000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus -1 I/O range: (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) NVidia Riva Vanta rev 21, Mem @ 0xd6000000/24, 0xd4000000/25 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0xd6000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [4] -1 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0xd6000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [4] -1 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0xd6000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [9] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [10] -1 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [11] -1 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension FontCache (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.1.9 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "nv" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o (II) Module nv: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2 (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA128, RIVATNT, RIVATNT2, RIVATNT2 (A), RIVATNT2 (B), RIVATNT2 (Ultra), RIVATNT2 (Vanta), RIVATNT2 M64, RIVATNT2 (Integrated), GeForce 256, GeForce DDR, Quadro, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 GTS (rev 1), GeForce2 ultra, Quadro 2 Pro, GeForce2 MX, GeForce2 MX DDR, Quadro 2 MXR, GeForce 2 Go, GeForce3, GeForce3 (rev 1), GeForce3 (rev 2), GeForce3 (rev 3) (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset RIVATNT2 (Vanta) found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0xd6000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [9] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [10] -1 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [11] -1 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0xd6000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [8] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [9] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [10] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [11] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [12] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [13] -1 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [15] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [16] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) NV(0): Initializing int10 (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xf0000,0x10000) (II) xf86ReadBIOS(0, 0, Buf, 600)-> e8 e7 00 f0... (II) xf86ReadBIOS(c0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> 55 aa 54 eb... (II) xf86ReadBIOS(d0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> ff ff ff ff... (II) xf86ReadBIOS(e0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> ff ff ff ff... (II) NV(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (--) NV(0): Chipset: "RIVATNT2 (Vanta)" (**) NV(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NV(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NV(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (==) NV(0): Using HW cursor (--) NV(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xD4000000 (--) NV(0): MMIO registers at 0xD6000000 (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6710000,0x10000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6600000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6680000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6100000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6002000,0x2000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6400000,0x2000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6101000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6009000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6000000,0x9000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6800000,0x10000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6601000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6681000,0x1000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd60c0000,0x1000) was already clear (--) NV(0): VideoRAM: 16384 kBytes (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a (II) Module i2c: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.2.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) NV(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized. (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered. (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered. (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" removed. (II) NV(0): DDC Monitor info: 0x843d400 (II) NV(0): Manufacturer: CTX Model: 5699 Serial#: 0 (II) NV(0): Year: 2000 Week: 0 (II) NV(0): EDID Version: 1.1 (II) NV(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V (II) NV(0): Signal levels configurable (II) NV(0): Sync: Separate CompositeSerration on. V.Sync Pulse req. if CompSync or SyncOnGreen (II) NV(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 28 vert.: 21 (II) NV(0): Gamma: 2.10 (II) NV(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display (II) NV(0): redX: 0.625 redY: 0.340 greenX: 0.280 greenY: 0.605 (II) NV(0): blueX: 0.151 blueY: 0.070 whiteX: 0.283 whiteY: 0.297 (II) NV(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) NV(0): 720x400@70Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@60Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@67Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@72Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@75Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@60Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@72Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@75Hz (II) NV(0): 832x624@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@87Hz (interlaced) (II) NV(0): 1024x768@60Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@70Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1152x870@75Hz (II) NV(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported Future Video Modes: (II) NV(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 120 vid: 31793 (II) NV(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 100 vid: 26693 (II) NV(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 85 vid: 22881 (II) NV(0): #3: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 56.2 MHz Image Size: 270 x 202 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 800 h_sync: 832 h_sync_end 896 h_blank_end 1048 h_border: 0 (II) NV(0): v_active: 600 v_sync: 601 v_sync_end 604 v_blanking: 631 v_border: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 36.0 MHz Image Size: 270 x 202 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 640 h_sync: 672 h_sync_end 720 h_blank_end 832 h_border: 0 (II) NV(0): v_active: 480 v_sync: 481 v_sync_end 484 v_blanking: 509 v_border: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 94.5 MHz Image Size: 270 x 202 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1072 h_sync_end 1168 h_blank_end 1376 h_border: 0 (II) NV(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 769 v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: 808 v_border: 0 (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 120 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 70 kHz, PixClock max 2550 MHz (II) NV(0): end of DDC Monitor info (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) NV(0): ctx: Using hsync range of 31.50-57.00 kHz (II) NV(0): ctx: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-90.00 Hz (II) NV(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 350.00 MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (--) NV(0): Display dimensions: (28, 21) cm (--) NV(0): DPI set to (92, 92) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] [1] 0 0xd6000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] [2] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [4] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [7] -1 0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0xd4000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0xd6000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [10] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [11] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [12] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [13] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [14] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [15] -1 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [18] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd6000000,0x1000000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xd4000000,0x1000000) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) NV(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Scanline Image Writes Offscreen Pixmaps Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 18 256x256 slots 6 512x512 slots (==) NV(0): Backing store disabled (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (**) Option "Protocol" "MouseSystems" (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "MouseSystems" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "StopBits" "2" (**) Option "DataBits" "8" (**) Option "Parity" "None" (**) Option "Vmin" "1" (**) Option "Vtime" "0" (**) Option "FlowControl" "None" (==) Mouse1: Buttons: 3 (**) Mouse1: BaudRate: 1200 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE) (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 4 3:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from roam.psg.com (unknown [217.33.136.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E7737B401 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:29:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by roam.psg.com with local (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15Sygd-0002AD-00; Sat, 04 Aug 2001 11:29:39 +0100 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: dannyman Cc: "Koster, K.J." , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: so where did the space go? References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FD9D3A@l04.research.kpn.com> <20010802222556.C28622@toldme.com> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 11:29:39 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> it was vmware under linux emul. > lsof | grep /var # lsof | grep vmware | grep /var vmware 489 randy txt VREG 116,262148 140673024 16 /var (/dev/ad0s3e) vmware 489 randy 11u VREG 116,262148 140673024 16 /var (/dev/ad0s3e) vmware 492 randy txt VREG 116,262148 140673024 16 /var (/dev/ad0s3e) vmware 492 randy 11u VREG 116,262148 140673024 16 /var (/dev/ad0s3e) vmware 493 randy txt VREG 116,262148 140673024 16 /var (/dev/ad0s3e) vmware 493 randy 11u VREG 116,262148 140673024 16 /var (/dev/ad0s3e) not a lot of help, or i am not seeing the clue randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 4 5:14:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl1.origin-it.com (gw-nl1.origin-it.com [193.79.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDC737B401; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 05:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com with ESMTP id OAA01288; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:14:07 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com(172.16.127.66) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma001286; Sat, 4 Aug 01 14:14:08 +0200 Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com [172.16.188.53]) by exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id OAA13924; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:14:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id OAA25364; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:14:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.4/8.11.4/hmo25jul01) with ESMTP id f74CE4C79791; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:14:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id OAA19712; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:14:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200108041214.OAA19712@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Dell Poweredge 2450 vs. recent sys/dev/aic7xxx MFCs To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:14:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: gibbs@freebsd.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 160 4782517 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM996927242-19544-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ELM996927242-19544-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I have some Dell Poweredge 2450 (using the Adaptec aic7899 SCSI) running fine. Yesterday I updated -STABLE and now the aic driver is broken. The kernel comes up fine, but when it tries to access a disk, it's getting SCSI timeouts. The dmesg output of the (old) working kernel is attached. Note that this kernel is only a week old and does *not* include the recent MFCs to the AIC code. Yesterday's broken kernel does. Apparently there is a breakage introduced with the recent MFCs. The dmesg output is almost identical for both kernels. This is a completely GENERIC kernel. I have a second machine which behaves exactly identical, so this is apparently not a hardware issue. Both are now running fine again with the old kernel. Both are uniprocessor, so this is not an SMP issue. I will grab the console output during the timeouts if that helps. Justin, please let me know what exactly you need. Anybody else with similar problems? As the Dell 24[05]0 seem to be quite popular servers I would suggest to have this fixed before RELEASE. Helge --ELM996927242-19544-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dmesg Content-Description: dmesg Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 25 14:16:57 CEST 2001 toor@some.where.else:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (927.11-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 536862720 (524280K bytes) avail memory = 518299648 (506152K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0465000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 fxp0: port 0xecc0-0xecff mem 0xfe000000-0xfe0fffff,0xfe102000-0xfe102fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:30:9d:ad inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 14.0 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x8b0-0x8bf at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfe100000-0xfe100fff irq 10 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib1: on motherboard pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 2.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 ahc0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xf8fff000-0xf8ffffff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xf8ffe000-0xf8ffefff irq 10 at device 4.1 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs fxp1: port 0xccc0-0xccff mem 0xfa000000-0xfa0fffff,0xfa100000-0xfa100fff irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci1 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:b0:d0:b0:73:68 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto orm0:

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 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C11D2C.74C4B6E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 4 23:34:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (steeltoe.niceboots.com [208.25.85.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABAA37B403 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 23:34:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tenebrae@niceboots.com) Received: from localhost (tenebrae@localhost) by steeltoe.niceboots.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f756YSk40732; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 23:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 23:34:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tenebrae To: Kris Kirby Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Kris Kirby wrote: > On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > 4.4-release-rose (for the release + bug fixes branch). Prettier > > than a beet, and a nicer color of red. Better for attracting > > more women to the project. You rarely impress a woman by sending > > her a dozen beets. Not "favorably impress", at least. > > Send her a dozen -ROSEs and her ISP will dump her account as well as > making her really unhappy with you for sending her megabytes of useless > data. :) Hey, depends on the ISP (and I wouldn't call freeBSD useless). Besides, I'm running my own mail server. Muahaha. Go, FreeBSD-whatever_it's_called! Yes, I AM into hipponecroflagelism. Neigh. My tuppence: I like -BEET, -RELEASE+ and nomenclature such as freeBSD 4.3.1. Or maybe I should just get some sleep... -Tenebrae. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 4 23:48:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enterprise.spock.org (cm-24-29-85-81.nycap.rr.com [24.29.85.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A4937B401 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 23:48:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@enterprise.spock.org) Received: (from jon@localhost) by enterprise.spock.org serial EF600Q3T-B7F; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 02:48:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jon)$ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 02:48:18 -0400 From: Jonathan Chen To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010805024818.A98392@enterprise.spock.org> References: <01080300314100.00395@spatula.home> <20010804094732.A47919@enterprise.spock.org> <20010804123544.C16994@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20010804161941.A61389@enterprise.spock.org> <20010804142337.B17463@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: telnet/1.1x In-Reply-To: <20010804142337.B17463@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 02:23:37PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 02:23:37PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 04:19:41PM -0400, Jonathan Chen wrote: > > My only concern would be CVS repo bloat. Perhaps a cvs meister would > > care to comment on this issue? I don't suppose there is a way to tell > > CVS to not worry about deltas or logs, is there? > > My suggestion was that the change should be hacked into CVS itself, > so it [cw]ould not generate log entries for the automated changes to > the version file. While that may work with pure CVS, I'm not sure how cvsup/CTM will like that. -Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message