From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu May 17 23:24:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net (johnson.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6186D37B422 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (pool0518.cvx7-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.166.8]) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17733; Fri, 18 May 2001 02:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B04C031.81854EDC@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:24:49 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Valentin Nechayev , Alfred Perlstein , Erik Trulsson , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wint_t References: <20010514164401.A61243@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010515023221.A41666@student.uu.se> <20010514174502.J2009@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010515093610.A1835@iv.nn.kiev.ua> <3B010778.287FAF5E@mindspring.com> <3B03323F.5C6D6827@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > Internationalization, in general, is the process of > > taking code, and making it so that it is possible to > > localize it into a particular -- monolingual -- locale. > > > > You need spacial software to deal with multilingual > > text; the vast majority of software doesn't have to > > do that (about the only place you will see it is in > > a translator-used application). > > Funny. I use it on e-mail. Perhaps if you lived in a country > that used a language other than English you would have a > different perception of this issue... I think you missed something when you cut out the part about "round trip" character sets. I'm rather certain that you aren't using Chinese and Japanese in the same email (or, if you are, that they are seperately encoded MIME attachments). If I use JIS-208 + JIS-212, I can actually encode any of 21 human languages in that single character set (it has a prefix of ISO-8859-1). The point is that a locale inclides a character set, that is not really specific to a single language. I'm also rather certain that your email client, when you make an error, gives you the error message in just a single language. Yeah, I use ISO 8859-1 for most of my email... it gets encoded as US ASCII, if I don't use high-bit-set characters. I could write English, German, Italian, French, Icelandic, etc., etc. That _doesn't_ mean I'm using more than a single locale, though. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message