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In message: <20030615095053.G22725@gamplex.bde.org>
            Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au> writes:
: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: 
: > In message: <20030614.101420.71552621.imp@bsdimp.com>
: >             "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
: > : In message: <200306141157.h5EBviHg003862@repoman.freebsd.org>
: > :             Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: > : :   Modified files:
: > : :     share/mk             bsd.sys.mk
: > : :   Log:
: > : :   Revert to a known-good state.  Anyone desiring to experiment with stricter
: > : :   global settings is free to do so in his or her own source tree.
: > :
: > : You beat me to this by about 4 hours.  Thank you.  While the c99/gnu99
: > : stuff did uncover a number of problems, it also caused a number of
: > : unintended problems outside the source tree.
: >
: > Unfortunately, it retains CSTD in a form that's had much said against
: > it.  I think it would have been better to back out one step further
: > until that can be resolved.
: 
: I didn't notice any sayings against it except FUD.

IIRc, both ruslan and david had objections to these changes.  In
reverting things back to the starting point I'm not saying that we
don't want to do it, but rather it was time to declare a Mulligan
and start fresh.

Warner