Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:33:04 +0300 From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@iki.fi> To: perl5-porters@perl.org Cc: Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>, Chris Nandor <pudge@pobox.com>, Christopher Masto <chris@masto.com>, Raphael Manfredi <Raphael_Manfredi@pobox.com>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@freebsd.org>, perl5-porters@perl.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, tobez@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Save a few hunderd kilobytes or a few hundred perl users? Message-ID: <20020430193304.A30405@alpha.hut.fi> In-Reply-To: <CBF1C368-5C4F-11D6-A0A2-00039301D480@dan.co.jp>; from dankogai@dan.co.jp on Wed, May 01, 2002 at 12:34:44AM %2B0900 References: <200204301406.g3UE6uoI028768@grimreaper.grondar.org> <CBF1C368-5C4F-11D6-A0A2-00039301D480@dan.co.jp>
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(I promise that this is my last message about this matter to this large a recipient list. Who is the maintainer of the Perl package in FreeBSD? Anton Berezin, I think? tobez@freebsd.org CCed.) Though I disagree with the tone of Dan Kogai, I must agree on the technical grounds that leaving away standard modules and still calling it "Perl" is not quite right. I think both from the viewpoints of the Perl distribution *and* an OS distribution *IF* modules have to be left out for space-saving reasons the fair thing to do would be to make it clear to the users of the OS distribution that what they are getting is not the full Perl. This will cut down the number of misunderstandings on both sides. Firstly, both the outputs of perl -v and perl -V should be amended. For example: $ perl -v This is perl, v5.6.1 built for i686-freebsd THIS INSTALLATION HAS BEEN MODIFIED FOR FREEBSD. NOT ALL STANDARD MODULES ARE INCLUDED. The missing modules are: ... To get the full standard installation, install ... Copyright 1987-2002, Larry Wall Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit. Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'. If you have access to the Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.com/, the Perl Home Page. Secondly, as the above message indicates, there should be a full Perl installation available, using whatever packaging method is used by the OS distribution. -- $jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ # There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. # It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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