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Date:      Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:50:10 +0100
From:      "Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6ller?=" <Lars@koellers.net>
To:        "J. Chris Coppick" <jchris@znet.com>
Cc:        Andy Sparrow <spadger@best.com>
Subject:   Re: Upgrade of itcl breaks tkdesk 
Message-ID:  <200312161950.hBGJoAZj003560@odie.koellers.net>
In-Reply-To: Message from "J. Chris Coppick" <jchris@znet.com>  of "Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:30:50 PST." <3FDE19FA.40905@znet.com> 

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Hello,

i'm really sad to hear tkdesk is nearly dead. It's a nice tool, but in =

with KDE and GNOME fighting against on the desktop, there is no =

interest in small usefull tool.

However, it would be very nice to bring tkdesk to tcl8.4+, and have it =

available some more time.

Perhaps we should modify the port to use his own static linked =

itcl lib, only included in the tkdesk port for keeping tkdesk =

running if it's not possible to have enough resources to port it to a =

current tcl version.

So far good luck and best regards

Lars

In reply to "J. Chris Coppick" who wrote:

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>Andy Sparrow wrote:
>| (jchris, maintainer of 'tkdesk' added to Cc: list)
>|
>
>Thanks, Andy.
>
>| [...]
>|
>| It's obviously not my decision to take, but I regret to say that I ten=
d
>| to the view that it is probably best for -ports as a whole to update
>| 'itcl' to 8.4 if the only thing holding it back is the 'tkdesk' port.
>|
>| This would leave 'tkdesk' broken, to be updated as/when possible. I
>| might be mistaken, but I don't think it's worked on Linux since they
>| went to 8.3 - and that *BSD is the only place where 'tkdesk' has worke=
d
>| for quite some time.
>|
>
>Due to other professional/personal responsibilities and interests on my
>part, combined with a lack of serious contributors, TkDesk can be
>considered, at best, dormant if not completely dead.  I'd been planning
>to seek another maintainer(s), or, lacking success at that, to
>officially mothball the project.  Sadly, I couldn't even be bothered to
>make the time necessary to do that small task (mea culpa).
>
>Having said that...  Recently I have had some extra time and have been
>considering a release that would at least bring TkDesk in line with
>Tcl 8.4+.  However, I certainly would not recommend that anyone hold
>back any releases/upgrades based on that slim possibility.
>
>Unfortunately, my recommendation is to leave TkDesk behind and, in the
>process, heap as much shame on me as possible, in hopes that the
>crushing burden of guilt will eventually squeeze out some sort of
>constructive action on my part.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>	Chris
>
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Lars K=F6ller
E-Mail: lars@koellers.net (LKoeller@FreeBSD.ORG)
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