Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 13:20:24 -0400 From: Dutch Collins <dutch@charm.net> To: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam [was: Earn Cash] Message-ID: <37823AD8.3EBAECA2@charm.net> References: <37820E54.E7A553E2@charm.net> <199907061513.KAA11426@hostigos.otherwhen.com> <19990707021027.34687@welearn.com.au>
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Sue Blake wrote: > > On 6 Jul 99, at 10:10, Dutch Collins wrote: > > This really is Lucky's Casino. Where does this stuff come from? I guess > > everyone has to live with it. My guess is that when I respond my URL or > > e-mail address gets logged. > > Yes, if you respond to the spammer's address you're likely to get much > more spam and find your email address turns up on a CD that is sold to > spammers. Go to www.yahoo.com.au and search for "spam" to find lots > more information. > > Spammers also use stupid software to go through web sites picking up > anything with an @ symbol in it to create lists of email addresses to > use or sell. That's how they get the mailing list addresses and think > they're individual people. If we took the mailing list addresses off > all web pages including the Handbook, that would be worse for the lists > than the relatively small amount of spam that the lists get. > > On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:11:25AM -0500, Mike Avery wrote: > > Let's hope we don't have to live with it! Are the FreeBSD lists > > filtered so only subscribers can post to them? That has all but > > eliminated spam in the mailing lists I run. > > No, every public FreeBSD list works the same: anyone can post. > That is not likely to be changed. This suggestion has been discussed > ad nauseum, and the benefits of having the lists open always outweigh > the risks involved. Other lists for other communities have different > setups and rules. The FreeBSD lists are a special case, set up and run > to suit this community's long standing habits and preferences. > > Personally, I think it would be great if freebsd-newbies was for > subscribers only. In fact I'd like to give everyone a quiz first, to > make sure they've read the charter :-) OK, I can dream can't I? > > One of the functions of the freebsd-newbies list is to help you get > used to how they work. For example, it is customary to use the > group-reply or reply-to-all function, so that the original poster gets > a separate copy of the reply as well as one via the list. That practice > would be frowned upon in many other communities, but it is preferred > here. Of course it means you have to trim superfluous addresses from > the message headers when they accumulate during a long thread of > conversation. > > > Also, does the mail server that processes subscriptions check > > addresses against any of the anti-spam services? > > Yes, it certainly does, plus it excludes its own list of people who > have spammed the lists. > > On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:15:16AM -0700, Moreau, Edward W wrote: > > I've gotten 5 mailings already this morning and I won't stand for it. > > You must be subscribed to five lists. They hit them all. > > > I'm removing myself from the list for a few weeks until you can clean it up. > > I'm sorry you find that necessary, but I understand. Those particular > spammers will be excluded from posting to freebsd.org in due course, > but they're not the only spammers in the world. There is no special > "cleaning up" to do, just following normal procedures. > > Let me assure you that the FreeBSD lists and mail servers are run by > people with decades of experience who know what they're doing and > constantly fight against spam. Some of the list policies seem a bit > strange to people used to other lists. If you're curious about those > policies and conventions, this is a good place to ask. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > That message had more information than I thought I needed. Reads like it could be a standard message, like the 'first aid kit', and clue everyone in when they are *clueless*. thanks -d >| Voice Line: 410.922.5805 | +------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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