From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 20 00:31:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40231AD5F24 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 00:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2420A1AC1 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 00:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Du3w+VOpuoujUNGe00rHQbyWn56/8pzrbQxjvM44eC4=; b=TeYBFs5DnWqJcoOgM71H0yKAES iFEcRTZV6xDwl27Mf2qIEfg2urxgx+oDT0eOkPyIba3E44bWnCVnYRV7fl9eaVkkvPvw8EqA+DEi8 +qAZHBrluQcm5LVVJAyzLhGc8B2mH+15m0kpT6twMZlqTbDip+YiDyTwWnvL58HjA7yY=; Received: from [39.253.183.34] (port=16346 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ahRGx-000Fq7-Ez; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 18:31:12 -0600 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:31:07 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Littlefield, Tyler" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions re: upgrading current and jail package management Message-ID: <20160320083107.75c54638@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <56EDC48A.6040001@tysdomain.com> References: <56EDC48A.6040001@tysdomain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 00:31:13 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 17:28:42 -0400 "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote: > I have a few questions I was hoping someone could help me with. > I'm running FreeBSD 11 using IOCage for jails. Thus far, I have a > couple questions here: I do not use IOCage. > 1) When I portsnap fetch extract in a jail, I get a message telling me > that /usr/ports is not writable. When I touch a file in /usr/ports I'm > told it's a read-only filesystem, but mount only shows the root > directory being mounted. Is this typical? if so, how should ports be > installed? /usr/ports is writable in my jails. > I read that you should not build ports in a jail, but a few of the I do this all the while. There might be some restrictions I never have met. > 3) I am running FreeBSD-11. Is there a good way to update short of > rebuilding everything? I don't mind doing that, but it's somewhat time > consuming. Also mergemaster has a bad habbit of breaking my > /etc/passwd files, etc. I do not run mergemaster most of the time. If I do, I only allow to write the changes to /var something and do editing manually afterwards. But I run the jails on systems running 10 since it was current. Release versions have the advantage that sudden changes will not interrupt your work suddenly. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 20 00:54:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ADBACE68B for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 00:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaredm@openmailbox.org) Received: from mail2.openmailbox.org (mail2.openmailbox.org [62.4.1.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C056A211 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 00:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaredm@openmailbox.org) Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 783252ACA4CB; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 01:53:59 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1458435239; bh=eo7enyCc3MWX6Kt0x9JlBwnEVxRZJAzFqb8dBmw2EZs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=TGHP3TOcyF2XNNucIa2lWV/OFw035o2Gzp6oB54UtGUAT2GqXtmSUs+kA72e8lwuk qVbSiIxAwpkVkXV+V7/LvTcXyoJpXFjgby6xAiJpGpITe6RKIkN+GvRdYBNW8OiNgo fI40TFrnk438tzBU8L21fSodk5Ocf1HAlkitBHQE= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from www.openmailbox.org (openmailbox-b2 [10.91.69.220]) by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4116F2ACA4CB; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 01:53:49 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:53:48 -0500 From: jaredm@openmailbox.org To: tyler@tysdomain.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions re: upgrading current and jail package management In-Reply-To: <56EDC48A.6040001@tysdomain.com> References: <56EDC48A.6040001@tysdomain.com> Message-ID: <6f4ad778550038ee26887762d02ed81f@openmailbox.org> X-Sender: jaredm@openmailbox.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 00:54:03 -0000 > All, > I have a few questions I was hoping someone could help me with. > I'm running FreeBSD 11 using IOCage for jails. Thus far, I have a > couple questions here: > 1) When I portsnap fetch extract in a jail, I get a message telling me > that /usr/ports is not writable. When I touch a file in /usr/ports I'm > told it's a read-only filesystem, but mount only shows the root > directory being mounted. Is this typical? if so, how should ports be > installed? > I read that you should not build ports in a jail, but a few of the > jails I am using have different port builds from the pkg defaults. I > need to build them individually. Is there a better way to do this? > 2) I seen some information about setting a property on IOCage that > allows zfs datasets to be mounted into the jail. There is already a > dataset being used though; is there a way to mount multiples? To > provide some context, I want to run Samba from within a jail. I wish > to nullfs-mount the /storage/media into the jail to enable Samba to > access it. > 3) I am running FreeBSD-11. Is there a good way to update short of > rebuilding everything? I don't mind doing that, but it's somewhat time > consuming. Also mergemaster has a bad habbit of breaking my > /etc/passwd files, etc. > Thanks, > - -- > Take care, > Ty > Twitter: @sorressean > Web: https://tysdomain.com > Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc Ty, I brought the question to Twitter and the response from the official iocage Twitter account (@iocage) was "The question of using portsnap in an iocage jail would be better directed at the iocage mailing list. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/iocage :)" Hope you can find the answer there! Best regards, Jared M. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 09:53:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA94AD6A41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from worldc@saifunguo.com) Received: from m97106.qiye.163.com (m97106.qiye.163.com [220.181.97.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01070929 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from worldc@saifunguo.com) Received: from worldc$saifunguo.com ( [219.133.155.231] ) by ajax-webmail-wmsvr3 (Coremail) ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:57:51 +0800 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [219.133.155.231] Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:57:51 +0800 (CST) From: pagaled13 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Microscope X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version SP_ntes V3.5 build 20150911(74783.7961) Copyright (c) 2002-2016 www.mailtech.cn 163-hosting MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <333762ed.11785.15397f72d03.Coremail.worldc@saifunguo.com> X-CM-TRANSID: auCowEBZa0Nwm+9War8kAg--.213W X-CM-SenderInfo: hzruzv3f6vtx5ixqw33rof0z/1tbiPAwziFXJmVBblwADsR X-Coremail-Antispam: 1U5529EdanIXcx71UUUUU7vcSsGvfC2KfnxnUU== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:53:30 -0000 RGVhciBDRU8sCiAgICBQbGVhc2Ugc2VlIHRoZSBhdHRhY2htZW50IG9mIE1pY3Jvc2NvcGUgICAg CiAgICBCZXN0IFJlZ2FyZHMKICAgIFVzaGVy From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 10:21:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018F5AD728F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2E5B6BD for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1458555688; bh=dClbY1WZ80wZnGSqoQ/8mWaxE4vbJwF4mmQHewMgjbU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=Qc/9lQtwXtWseoNwJWJ1szx53Axjqp412B8KOEm2IJSKKudK8I5KaCaO0KdmRH8ThgPJ1GMwKbY8X1izEE9KoviPWC0V2lDsrBooMJ80oiGu5oLYIvXID8P0Acbsy/KbujFDrZeYYI9rze3i3CRCikqyc+RUSIruAdSmscGR8Wnc1zs7y726Fw5xEmsosF6Mo3yzwPNd6/cd6Nqa8cLvPAePacTDIA9UYfMIAetGnYM8Q2w96mVr7x+oPTWmsvbrPkGodkw3vj8F7hAlokioaEf8qMLMyoETxhyVg6hO77oGhTouAZB2mDc6IRLN2VoKVXC9h6mshdjeimuXlFFQ/Q== Received: from [66.196.81.171] by nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2016 10:21:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.247] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2016 10:21:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2016 10:21:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 530397.13607.bm@omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: by 66.196.80.124; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Unixreader Mydog Reply-To: "unixreader@yahoo.com" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: find module information MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:36 -0000 Hello, everbody, i saw a module named i915kms.ko, and i want to know what is its' facility, Could anybody please tell me where i can get some useful information. (and any other modules in /boot/kernel) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 10:38:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8D8AD7778 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S15.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s15.hotmail.com [65.55.111.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50EDBD65 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP1 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S15.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Mon, 21 Mar 2016 03:37:28 -0700 X-TMN: [cQJy6nBZl+0xh+CgOEX8XY6KveEmDUVr] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 06:37:21 -0400 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting wireless network up and running In-Reply-To: References: <20160315173122.GB92613@slackbox.erewhon.home> Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2016 10:37:27.0629 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9E947D0:01D1835D] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:38:35 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 07:14:12 +0100, Ben Woods stated: > 1. Install the package bwn-firmware-kmod, or install it from ports > (net/bwn-firmware-kmod). I found the problem. I do not have the kernel source files in /usr/src. Without them I cannot install the firmware port. This has become WAY to much trouble to get a wireless network up and running. I'll just leave it wired for now. -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 10:47:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45943AD7A59 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65E02F1 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:47:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ahxN0-000IAH-T4; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:47:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:47:34 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: "unixreader@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: find module information Message-Id: <20160321104734.13303d41070b1ffa7fb02cfb@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:47:58 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Unixreader Mydog via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hello, everbody, i saw a module named i915kms.ko, and i want to know what > is its' facility, Could anybody please tell me where i can get some > useful information. (and any other modules in /boot/kernel) I didn't know the answer to the question - so I can show you a good way to start finding out sitting at a FreeBSD command line: $ man i915kms No manual entry for i915kms --- Always worth trying first $ apropos i915kms i915kms: nothing appropriate $ apropos i915 i915: nothing appropriate $ apropos kms drm-kms(7) - Kernel Mode-Setting drm-kms(7) - Kernel Mode-Setting $ man drm-kms --- Snip - go on read it at home So it seems this is a kernel interface for display adaptor mode settings - conclusion i915kms is the implmentation for the Intel 915 chipset. At this point if I really wanted to know more I'd probably go looking around the sources and/or ask detailed questions here or in a more focused list. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 11:01:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D237EAD7D9F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89D0EAA3 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [82.113.98.224] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ahxa6-0002qm-At for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:01:06 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u2LB12W6003713 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:01:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id u2LB116d003712 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:01:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:01:01 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: USB printer && ulpt.ko Message-ID: <20160321110101.GA3645@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160320161350.GA3782@freeyaz> <74efb895-6e15-49a0-9a70-46b0c8b958e1@unixarea.de> <20160320165642.GB3782@freeyaz> <20160320185359.GA2632@c720-r292778-amd64> <20160320192407.GA2900@c720-r292778-amd64> <20160320194423.GC3782@freeyaz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20160320194423.GC3782@freeyaz> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.98.224 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:01:09 -0000 Hello, The pkg message of the pkh hplip says: $ pkg info --pkg-message hplip-3.14.10_1 hplip-3.14.10_1: Always: ===================================================================== HPLIP expects printers to be attached as a ugen(4) devices. This means that you must NOT have "device ulpt" in your kernel and ulpt must NOT be loaded as a kernel module (you may also want to compile ... and I do not have compiled in the device and not lodaded at boot: # kldload ulpt # i.e. I could load it fine which shows that ulpt is not loaded. It seems that on device attach the devd fires up the loading of it: # tail /var/log/messages Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz kernel: ugen0.3: at usbus0 Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x03f0 product 0xac11 bus uhub0 Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz kernel: ulpt0: on usbus0 Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz kernel: ulpt0: using bi-directional mode ... How is the correct way to avoid this loading via /etc/devd/usb.conf? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 11:05:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995C6AD8096 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay105.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay105.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DC64E44 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2BpBgAW1e9W/xtr8lFdAYMzgUW6MoFvhg0CgSM7EgEBAQEBAQFkJ4RCAQEEOhwjEAsOCgkQAhMPKh4GE4grvhUBAQEBAQUBAQEBARuKYoQ6XwGEeAWXV416bo4jjwYnDi2DZjsuihUBAQE Received: from 27.107-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.242.107.27]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2016 12:05:28 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u2LB5ReE049290; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:05:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:05:27 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB printer && ulpt.ko Message-ID: <20160321120527.57b0b5ae@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <20160321110101.GA3645@c720-r292778-amd64> References: <20160320161350.GA3782@freeyaz> <74efb895-6e15-49a0-9a70-46b0c8b958e1@unixarea.de> <20160320165642.GB3782@freeyaz> <20160320185359.GA2632@c720-r292778-amd64> <20160320192407.GA2900@c720-r292778-amd64> <20160320194423.GC3782@freeyaz> <20160321110101.GA3645@c720-r292778-amd64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:05:32 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:01:01 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > The pkg message of the pkh hplip says: > > $ pkg info --pkg-message hplip-3.14.10_1 > hplip-3.14.10_1: > Always: > ===================================================================== > > HPLIP expects printers to be attached as a ugen(4) devices. This > means that you must NOT have "device ulpt" in your kernel and ulpt > must NOT be loaded as a kernel module (you may also want to compile > ... > > and I do not have compiled in the device and not lodaded at boot: > > # kldload ulpt > # > > i.e. I could load it fine which shows that ulpt is not loaded. > > It seems that on device attach the devd fires up the loading of it: > > # tail /var/log/messages > Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz kernel: ugen0.3: at usbus0 > Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x03f0 product 0xac11 bus uhub0 > Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz kernel: ulpt0: on usbus0 > Mar 20 20:21:00 freeyaz kernel: ulpt0: using bi-directional mode > ... > > How is the correct way to avoid this loading via /etc/devd/usb.conf? The pkg-message should be removed. It's no longer relevant. It's ok if ulpt is loaded. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 15:22:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A8BAD8AFC for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 422DC9DE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (user-24-214-48-39.knology.net [24.214.48.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id u2LFM4ri002934 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:22:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Problems w/ mgdiff across my LAN To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <56ED64B9.2000300@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <56F0119B.4010407@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:27:33 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56ED64B9.2000300@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:22:12 -0000 On 03/19/16 09:44, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I am trying to use mgdiff (from ports) to look for differences between > 2 ASCII files (ANSI C, actually). I am logged into the box where the > files reside from this box, running FreeBSD 9.3R, patched up: > > [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:40:46am] 488 % uname -a > FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p33 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p33 #0: Wed > Jan 13 17:55:39 UTC 2016 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [wam@kabini1, ~, 9:40:47am] 488 % > > On the other box (also FBSD 9.3R, I get: > > [wam@devbox, Vector, 9:36:54am] 734 % xdiff main.c Main.c > Error: Can't open display: localhost:11.0 > [wam@devbox, Vector, 9:37:04am] 735 % which xdiff > xdiff: aliased to mgdiff -args -wB > [wam@devbox, Vector, 9:37:17am] 736 % uname -a > FreeBSD devbox 9.3-RELEASE-p33 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p33 #0: Wed Jan 13 > 17:55:39 UTC 2016 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [wam@devbox, Vector, 9:37:27am] 737 % > > I ssh-ed into the other box (devbox) from this box (kabini1) under > tcsh in an rxvt shell. I have been having variations of this problem > for a while, but worked around it by cd-ing to the remote dir from > this box & then mgdiff-ing. I can do that here as well, but that is > clumsy & I suspect that there is a simple bit of pilot error causing > this issue, which I would like to fix :-). Any clues appreciated. TIA > & have a good one. > > *C'mon* !!!! Someone throw me a bone here :-) !!!! I have googled & implemented most of the stuff I found there ('AllowTcpForwarding yes' & 'PermitTunnel yes' in my sshd_config file on the remote box (devbox), localhost def'ns in my /etc/hosts file, a few others) , still nogo. *Any* help appreciated .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 21 16:42:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53566AD8FF2 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15053CC2 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-133.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BE7B3CF07; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:37:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2LGb1PY002057; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:37:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:37:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "unixreader@yahoo.com" Cc: Unixreader Mydog via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: find module information Message-Id: <20160321173701.035bd43f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:42:42 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:27 +0000 (UTC), Unixreader Mydog via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hello, everbody, i saw a module named i915kms.ko, and i want to know > what is its' facility, Could anybody please tell me where i can get > some useful information. This probably is a 3rd party module, so the documentation is located where the port maintainer decided to install it to. In most cases, this will be /usr/local/share/doc/, but other locations are also possible. Some ported software provides a manual page, "man ", but sadly it's not always the case. Sometimes you can derive from the name: "i915kms" is shorthand for "Intel 915" (graphics chipset) kernel mode setting. > (and any other modules in /boot/kernel) Usually "man " will work for OS-provided modules. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[174.30.255.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id hj17sm5959069igb.11.2016.03.21.12.20.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:20:18 -0700 (PDT) References: <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1386745165.2210852.1458555687019.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <20160321173701.035bd43f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Polytropon Cc: "unixreader\@yahoo.com" , Unixreader Mydog via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: find module information In-reply-to: <20160321173701.035bd43f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: <86a8lrd4e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:20:21 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:27 +0000 (UTC), Unixreader Mydog via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Hello, everbody, i saw a module named i915kms.ko, and i want to know >> what is its' facility, Could anybody please tell me where i can get >> some useful information. > > This probably is a 3rd party module, so the documentation > is located where the port maintainer decided to install it > to. It's the driver for Intel SandyBridge and later integrated graphics, and is included in base. There's no documentation included that I know of, but it's a modified version of Intel's official Linux driver. If you want a run-down of the what's included in the defalt (GENERIC) kernel configuration, the FreeBSD source code contains the files: - /usr/src/sys//conf/GENERIC - /usr/src/sys//NOTES These will give you a general idea of stuff included and what hardware/function the modules are for. It's not a comprehensive list, but I think it should cover most (all?) of what's in /boot/kernel on a default install for your architecture. I'm assuming you're asking because you intend to build a custom kernel and already have a local copy of the source, but if not you can read the files on the official SVN server.[1] [1]: http://svn.freebsd.org/base/ -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 01:45:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D14AD8428 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 01:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel-dvorak@atlas.cz) Received: from gmmr2.centrum.cz (gmmr2.centrum.cz [46.255.227.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A79E81E06 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 01:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel-dvorak@atlas.cz) Received: from mail1012.cent (unknown [10.255.254.14]) by gmmr2.centrum.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44566001909 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:42:56 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=atlas.cz; s=mail; t=1458610976; bh=zjrn2/AnKWlTUBvOC1CIC4aGH8B09MyYp1pf6T/08bI=; h=To:Subject:Date:From:From; b=JFRW+FgdWUFHPXosSQNlvf5kwvFmmOYDyIXxeZhT+F3DgJG8RqMdkSLUEbtbuqRJP yqVUmenwI6di3mv5Qosu6GU58lkmYe/910o+wmFCePUCYu/1tf4JvoDia5X8cey591 +k/FGpT2d4QZQJxkebRVLttUcOf/mDQiu9N9X6q0= Received: by mail1012.cent (Postfix, from userid 33) id DCFBE60038A6C; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:42:56 +0100 (CET) To: Subject: =?utf-8?q?Dell_T320_stack_on_=40Start_during_UEFI_booting?= Received: from 212.79.106.72 (X-Forwarded-For: 212.79.106.72) by mail1012.centrum.cz (centrum.cz multimail) with HTTP Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:42:56 +0100 From: =?utf-8?q?Daniel_Dvo=C5=99=C3=A1k?= X-Mailer: Centrum Email 5.3 X-Priority: 3 X-Original-From: daniel-dvorak@atlas.cz MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20160322024256.0312331C@atlas.cz> X-Maser: brud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 01:45:06 -0000   I have a problem with UEFI FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-uefi-dvd1.iso disk. The server Dell T320 is set for UEFI booting. The system boots from DVD. It takes a 2-3 minutes to load a kernel, but it succeeded at the end, but than it got stuck at Start @ 0xfffffffffff802dfc70 as you can see at the picture. According to FreeBSD 10.1, UEFI should work, so where could be a prolbem with ?   Thank you for your help.   Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 04:46:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B36AD6B9C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D778A70 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1969EAD6B9B; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D88AD6B9A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1A75A6F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D031D7883 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:38:27 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :subject:subject:from:from:received:received:received; s= selector1; t=1458621506; x=1460435907; bh=vUJyh03H1lXg6RWp81m/nJ Apk1JNX0vxNkoEnmDsRJM=; b=LqlEDV+5rBsvpRce+PpRyg5t8NQs5k1AQGr4nb 81Pib1HyidE9JrwGmKO7RPkaqLOppax70lDgRWY+9uDx0prfdbV11bQdURtv/Dnq oarBXZLK8NMBSsx7bHwauV/hb9Yfj5toiPkyywRkbn3UrAHD+RD47gxANYuJkWtt fIraI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id mFWHIRVAZcI1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:38:26 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DEADD7881 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:38:26 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2M4cP7N040547; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:38:25 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Anti-virus for FreeBSD Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:38:25 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:46:04 -0000 Hi, What anti-virus are you using with FreeBSD? beside ClamAV that is. I had been using Kaspersky for years, but they are withdrawing their support for FreeBSD, so i will not renew my license in October. So I need a replacement, that has a daemonised version. Best regards, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 06:58:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A2FAD8678 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) Received: from nm47-vm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm47-vm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 135359A8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1458629801; bh=xagDB2liL2ZAo5emDuhzaRg6QEeb8jL3z8Dg+MPCcbs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=FPNAk7btAl8K20Inv1W5od7QYSWhCCx1DmMxqHYoiHQlvEtyhUgSJlUroc6xY0/38OedqPr2wQNYZ/a9zFZHwfwXB/orD9H9xnzxRgzTLNvvn62xNFwzUBGql8OWoTulOR/TGUWuF483vkBUuYikmgIebiFXrF2C2Tj3Rp28jW4GwRDFg1cewn9BH241JYSbbX97izYh+6QKoT/ft81qh+4aCpo9//TC8ktoPHLb1pFa6nJZDYOOX+MAMNd/dNYFqAjp6xVK2AWj7gbAVcfhU6Kmk6gcZ/Zto8wDnf0SXktOWtelu3ZuZyiVLKMfwspeSVc0aPp9aGg+TLVPtO4x+w== Received: from [66.196.81.173] by nm47.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2016 06:56:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.232] by tm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2016 06:56:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2016 06:56:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 185315.30276.bm@omp1041.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: by 66.196.81.109; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:56:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:56:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Teng Zhang Reply-To: "unixreader@yahoo.com" To: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <824425973.2950181.1458629797220.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20160321173701.035bd43f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20160321173701.035bd43f.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=9B=9E=E5=A4=8D=EF=BC=9ARe:_find_module_information?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:58:41 -0000 Thank you very much for your reply, @Polytropon.I found some useful files i= n /usr/local/man and /usr/local/share/doc seems does not include the files = which i want to get.It seems like that not all modules in /boot/kernel can = correspond to a manual page. Could you please tell me how can i distinguish= between OS-provided modules and non-OS-provided modules(modules like acpi*= are OS-provided modules, of course) . =E5=8F=91=E8=87=AA Android =E7=89=88 Yahoo =E9=82=AE=E7=AE=B1=20 =20 =E5=9C=A8 2016=E5=B9=B43=E6=9C=8822=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=BA=8C =E6=97=B6= =E9=97=B4:0:37=EF=BC=8CPolytropon =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF= =BC=9A On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:21:27 +0000 (UTC), Unixreader Mydog via fre= ebsd-questions wrote: > Hello, everbody, i saw a module named i915kms.ko, and i want to know > what is its' facility, Could anybody please tell me where i can get > some useful information. This probably is a 3rd party module, so the documentation is located where the port maintainer decided to install it to. In most cases, this will be /usr/local/share/doc/, but other locations are also possible. Some ported software provides a manual page, "man ", but sadly it's not always the case. Sometimes you can derive from the name: "i915kms" is shorthand for "Intel 915" (graphics chipset) kernel mode setting. > (and any other modules in /boot/kernel) Usually "man " will work for OS-provided modules. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 07:33:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EA7AD8EEE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2659C91 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id p65so179728508wmp.1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=U44ff2Bc51X0LBWqdiTR09mRP94eSNWccVUKTIiJwDg=; b=MfQrXSsFwQu3WwlErYbzYmnmVDtyWwTTGG0Y4CcQfed0j57pZECjSWtZfqDRYcGZm7 UJboSWMU2ZG+ZZJzvhYR6u1nh5kclMlxjU6WhXSi7R7KDVoEooCgkZVeDf+/WDxdty5+ j0y9pM0aLhye0dVwCs8cL/Wlhjs4LZ37mKBFUYuW2rxLyrzERsMjoj8dJEMiolC+QRKL /HDVFSHZ9de6NZrmKC+h5Rf0wMYdlnz1L6qHo/+R2PEqHpfiQJj49nLxKJjhckd7Vw3x 17Gr7/rsgg8C709BHSkdMFl9ILR2TaBiO+NLZ6hQ4IZoxbsERowH9GM4wYlktFFTSHw9 58Lw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=U44ff2Bc51X0LBWqdiTR09mRP94eSNWccVUKTIiJwDg=; b=g2jA7Y4XMjIIOu9hhnSfp/viJTG8jlq8nDoOqhtk4P1FOim9vMqD4UU5rz8JWyYWW1 SI1UjpC/ZQdgzuryEbvgWEi9yiJ/r1pufUSyfQ0Jqi7sXwBiSk8tfoVQx9CDA5lgoojq rbH3ZlQ2ILNyhgiuBgoEjfhE+vdESwAZBJaaQWes16SBzD1VfdJAuXViFU2/pHbr78df 2bixYtAzIw0w+SkYNszbqEcErYVO+AsY4YuuFHvgte/GpHC8/+1onrb0U6Vu4NSaaWSw m8j2gEVBr7Kzkm2A3L+mAF68HyIk/qXVRlCyoStJ/fhevZicD6hCNWRh82PSCdtJSH9f ztBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIae913HLXQaphSAOuVFh7qdmobrC9tooE9EmeBymtHFUAepw3hxpI1zxwMVQ5YZAA/KHi6YNUU91SYMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.138.198 with SMTP id m189mr18164757wmd.19.1458632024429; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.68 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:33:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160322024256.0312331C@atlas.cz> References: <20160322024256.0312331C@atlas.cz> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:33:44 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dell T320 stack on @Start during UEFI booting From: krad To: =?UTF-8?B?RGFuaWVsIER2b8WZw6Fr?= Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:33:46 -0000 Try 10.3 there has been loads of patchs on the UEFI stack for that release. Specifically for zfsonroot via UEFI. On 22 March 2016 at 01:42, Daniel Dvo=C5=99=C3=A1k = wrote: > > I have a problem with UEFI FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-uefi-dvd1.iso disk. > The server Dell T320 is set for UEFI booting. > The system boots from DVD. It takes a 2-3 minutes to load a kernel, but i= t > succeeded at the end, but than it got stuck at Start @ > 0xfffffffffff802dfc70 as you can see at the picture. > According to FreeBSD 10.1, UEFI should work, so where could be a prolbem > with ? > > Thank you for your help. > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 09:07:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675E9AD89D5 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495509D4 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 45050AD89D4; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44877AD89D3 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4B499D3 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id r129so82699985wmr.1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:07:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=cCjM1zpi4WA66hyktKwc+IXU2SYJAk9xKW+Wt2kkv2k=; b=Y+aNHqRtSL8Q1pwY7+z3eLitUXhieAf2no9+fj1UacNDuxvzL9LvsFQqxe9a7SJPqq tPVKYBGyyorbG38y68DUxzwZXxcYuaVN75OhWCP+aUcrUW16Uw3wodZdCcpE6aVH4onH +z84wn/LkyRNb5N/apxPL/DJNI47IsPUK4NujwA0aBo0rJbdhY4fJ6S9f3eescJJ8J67 g09RACv/4z/1o7K7eS0S2TFtgUVXWG6KxdeF8ayazpXe8K5iqz/c4Aon5tlHIWA8rewd vSBUT9ODEISVw/PV75ZcZy+J9dCCTBO35M2WxxA+EYvvbMK81CNhOL/z0keCWcNWWa0Z Fw2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=cCjM1zpi4WA66hyktKwc+IXU2SYJAk9xKW+Wt2kkv2k=; b=OmO/yybU8wSsPdN5wfjJ/VTPcWj/vMdfWCuEvPCKeFKj+NUvXd6XbXrwp/7TyQLUgF NXdGLDmD/Q7qWDSjUkOYGHnemgr5vlo5NL1NPv74r9A6tZyFEiCG2vjwHfpLhXKHrBZN +WQ1RDOudchO6PFXs/e6wDmxAVBszB1JTB63iEFXuZRz4mDXp9Z1YJGR7GjlcSC08hw1 /01bN8Vt2edOuSNtbPCDT73lFhA8kTHt/n2x2vpXuAnO5W1RZYLgBEvBWUO4d7YRZxLP 5ZnmSQ1dof33+GaraTujUh3zI+lCFUvzR/jJ0WTZ+o5r/7aXC3wH3Z5pWRYiuW/qySXd wnpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKhTn6ikzXHUheTBitM0RsfyVsJgPqndv/dAwWkVVATuRXlHZms3toW3XY+o3Tk/ZfBCB8YGf8/6VxZNQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.113.130 with SMTP id iy2mr35158143wjb.56.1458637667301; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.68 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:07:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:07:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: krad To: Olivier Nicole Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:07:49 -0000 If I have anything on a unix system that I need to have scanned by a certified av vendor, I usually share the area out on a secure network via samba and get a windows box to scan the files. Not ideal but it usually fits in with clients security policies more easily. Other than that clamav is good enough. On 22 March 2016 at 04:38, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > What anti-virus are you using with FreeBSD? beside ClamAV that is. > > I had been using Kaspersky for years, but they are withdrawing their > support for FreeBSD, so i will not renew my license in October. > > So I need a replacement, that has a daemonised version. > > Best regards, > > Olivier > -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 09:42:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABFAAD7503 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@ardiefox.me) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 470F988 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@ardiefox.me) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDD120A0A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:42:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ardiefox.me; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=uKh xHUsOIiiWueOoDPFvF6L3tcU=; b=dnpunyLLqu+hCSxhTmiSE4VfVkytwmxgOz8 zbxoGCxmHuUhCGu4Lu4SrbIfH1xcfcgJA31MLzyJpVGGF5QzTGDxVTd/Hwr+n+xt ynPhwGPd+fwwGqBUmDsqBrj/S23rxWOLL3a1VHWkNJ1/NsFQucOetqUZH0MvPSBc G+M0SOLU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=uKhxHUsOIiiWueOoDPFvF6L3tcU=; b=g3JuX VZO/Xj8X1ly43jXP754z09GZGwXiFnMUKSjmSy8qu5AoD2NREjISYPmckZAVPR3W oRr7evXGpU4TBNURx3x/h9XdZIdS1sPD62iJ+r9YhcGQZVXg1i4Yx3WjDR+SggMq 0YaVYm8D0o5BLuBtaC43EpqGgJ+d0uRM8FhL/g= Received: by web5.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9222CAC61ED; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: bYMqcfZ8MhbJKo3foX7NesFb7z+zAvx0aJFfLqQb8j84 1458639768 From: "Ardie H. Hwang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2b37838c Subject: FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE UEFI hangs upon booting with install media. Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:42:48 +0900 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:42:50 -0000 Hi, I just got a new HP desktop box from school, so I decided to install UEFI version of 10.2-RELEASE. (This machine does support UEFI; I checked it before erasing pre-installed Windows 10.) However, whenever I try booting up with USB installer, it hangs just after loading acpi driver up. Following is the log shown on the screen: ``` FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE #0 r286666: Wed Aug 12 15:26:37 UTC 2015 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 FreeBSD clang version 3.4.1 (tags/RELEASE_34/dot1-final 208032) 20140512 VT: running with driver "efifb". CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (3392.36-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin="GenuineIntel" Id=0x306a9 Family=0x6 Model=0x3a Stepping=9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x7fbae3ff AMD Features=0x28100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Structured Extended Features=0x281 XSAVE Features=0x1 VT-x: (disabled in BIOS) PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 4073570304 (3884 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 random device not loaded; using insecure entropy ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard random: initialized module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0xffffffff80db8eb0, 0) error 19 kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard ``` What can be done in this situation to continue booting up? Any hints are appreciated. Thank you. -- Ardie H. Hwang ---------------- email: iam@ardiefox.me From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 11:17:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0840AD99C8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7111C268 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id l68so187333959wml.0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:17:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=3afw9sfEpEHXXLC++m/uBrcR+l9vYTpglN2PfQ15RT4=; b=l+pTda+ZENZ1u/uVpfnPWdlu8DwpZX1bO8tHdh3WlZvoPrs4fMIGS4XyuBOkO+V/nx gXb0bTyL7Tp5QLjI6cTuw9HbzJr7VVgQfS5wiQwFlDJdNeX5kZNpJcMbap9R9Rbm+zgM GJKnXL3m66FlHacN2UiebxPivNjPdusBLeQBF3vUwwJgTs8yJ9B46foU5TLjQbGnmwJm /jrXsdlDUFWdoDRFF0Y24g6QJqkbdgIOQGjxEVtA/kqkYlsHnGP132eul1UkXQkw1obJ ihS5WlEbNAgLKwVVfthVGT8TwBHy/4qxSFxqySxF2Z9Z4ritVfaPhn8NLW03bokzHnWJ 26Hg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=3afw9sfEpEHXXLC++m/uBrcR+l9vYTpglN2PfQ15RT4=; b=GhYYGlz9dpl+Y1myELFxSz2YWoc/ynSKmC6hE/vujVBRS85BuuU2taxy5q9yCe7urB rryN6h3/MDT7OvU+vwYnhddsigRUPFRw7P3LVjDEroRpfceW3eDknn2Ex0WzNZ5hMuIh qG+d9ugoYrBbgjVOr7u551pi98ys7W65rfiHZS0f2rKnSow6mle1qPnqlwueXCzGt6k7 RSucql4rxQeKjteRDfL3fEw4GDguX5qb6MMXMsPrIKXWgTZKE7VilAtap0F0fRfBsnyA 4M+M+Oux3vus4bqK5FPh5WUV+kRwd4JNGZBK/QLi+mQXPmRALSVctfqza2mHL/7jxibq JLWA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIhQk2tVB7z0qdgq3pkr1z3VlEQZbzlEB8zIhV2Y7kctUbGU2iHo+xAJLA+weCsqxRFxbRNPpvfw7fsaQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.132.212 with SMTP id g203mr19772058wmd.30.1458645423777; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.68 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:17:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:17:03 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE UEFI hangs upon booting with install media. From: krad To: "Ardie H. Hwang" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:17:06 -0000 Try 10.3 there has been lots of UEFI submitted to that build. On 22 March 2016 at 09:42, Ardie H. Hwang wrote: > Hi, > > I just got a new HP desktop box from school, so I decided to install UEFI > version of 10.2-RELEASE. > (This machine does support UEFI; I checked it before erasing pre-installed > Windows 10.) > However, whenever I try booting up with USB installer, it hangs just after > loading acpi driver up. > > Following is the log shown on the screen: > ``` > FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE #0 r286666: Wed Aug 12 15:26:37 UTC 2015 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 3.4.1 (tags/RELEASE_34/dot1-final 208032) 20140512 > VT: running with driver "efifb". > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (3392.36-MHz K8-class CPU) > Origin="GenuineIntel" Id=0x306a9 Family=0x6 Model=0x3a Stepping=9 > > Features=0xbfebfbff H,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> > > Features2=0x7fbae3ff E4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,TSCDLT,AESNI,XZSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND> > AMD Features=0x28100800 > AMD Features2=0x1 > Structured Extended Features=0x281 > XSAVE Features=0x1 > VT-x: (disabled in BIOS) PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) > avail memory = 4073570304 (3884 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 > cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 > cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 > cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > random device not loaded; using insecure entropy > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > random: initialized > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0xffffffff80db8eb0, 0) error 19 > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: on motherboard > ``` > > What can be done in this situation to continue booting up? > Any hints are appreciated. > > Thank you. > > -- > Ardie H. Hwang > ---------------- > email: iam@ardiefox.me > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 11:34:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F4DAD9DA8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3D60C6A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l68so188017276wml.0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:34:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=Nl29hQm9041mEZgv81+m7Xb7MC2B5nCsiPSTLwSATSI=; b=0lwsamZGeLDam+5gYBE3Vwv3R+casZIc1bGB+rX9Z/RA5/8mb/FFyR5wpknw0GdiQd WO8YlFd10KVuzJ1cyuNFQF9v3HpJDQYXMtPcQ7z855BCwNXAdkTqbvHn5r4f3gOLsjuW UdkNoePkzNiijNTz127lRjO4eEfJLQYU+8zuyR7p/x4mm3bW/KIYDxFNoTsHY3kj3dmC oOhTC9dLd9sJtivvdbVwUdYVryXg6sSEoeS10yzyShx0zBGf5n4epZ6fLTHAHFYcIurs qsdyWhyRiySnTEaYbN/Gw0gN/71NN/YeuVRpVuMhNbeZbzqiRrB8iwSCWqLxBeDyFI5m 9aMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=Nl29hQm9041mEZgv81+m7Xb7MC2B5nCsiPSTLwSATSI=; b=NF313EzjsEKjF3dNF4igEhoV4yFo9xdYfin3b0EakoBwKc6GeFFScSut6LkNR1q5Yg qJHcZ/bAhZjq3Wg5sXpx1Zp9vF/N3InVJnlvZBtHe3LAKY2EYBXR5EUvGXLsg0W9fzw+ xROXnf7sH7yZSO0nbl18Lt/ipbSPt7qKzGuhEqT0RMZGxBGFhwRuQa3oKUHC5kJIzgTD 1azIIHD4FeW8XHSDDlbr5/laok9i0aHKMr378ZjwhkW4Mso2H+tW+8mdO4Cv5v11MBA4 6eJrGyaWzPzw6vjYvpnHNBO1ZYVR5pF2iCVATObLFDsPU3U2Xuc2YGSRoc7+a0YPcnKF Hajw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI5HsXndCfgjL6v0yWef8wkgGpSeutTXGAIUbelUKxmvKOMTrh0KOnJhrSIC8tunq1EnCLaq9oIXbneJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.232.87 with SMTP id f84mr20149554wmh.56.1458646486107; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.72.84 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.72.84 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:34:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:34:44 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rfdSAhsQwESZq77i4cBzoVoQYHM Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE UEFI hangs upon booting with install media. From: CeDeROM To: "Ardie H. Hwang" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:34:48 -0000 It may be: 1. USB UMS problem. Try dvd or pxe boot. 2. UEFI driver problem, like this happens with older nvidia driver, but when its raw install then try 10.3 or 11 and see if it was fixed then it would be a fixed bug :-) UEFI seems to be making its first steps on PC platform, its still raw, do not expect fireworks :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 11:35:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A888AD9E2C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8343D29 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id l68so188051858wml.0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:35:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=6rqSQebRuIKPSa5P+gtMVT32+Ins7iC9D2NrNH6Er84=; b=kycgiN/NIFkEnuChivF4yhluDBPR0YR7iFcvMaApIyeJmGZroCujUVY0QMdA6w3OAd c9sgN9jNbf8H5x4ayStqf7T/Fz1fzCD5fDwNUMD+Ir4gqyBQBaXV01nhyR9gnxUDiXik FAd2TeYTDEP0uf1MEhxKHP0EgKk8gN9vUPM+MkdQYcHcJUEpxlV4bdwKnCpIGB3o+5zO /SBZ3yczijOhpaymEtNbDYnaZVC4iN1fHtzDhOfyFFymBIST+EYyzRjb0KBA7rfYDB9E cMankGDQUsP4unD2bvr9uNNYnHPO+m1TuMdWy8avTApJ80Bany6iuta3eYfOLNjN7k7F hkIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=6rqSQebRuIKPSa5P+gtMVT32+Ins7iC9D2NrNH6Er84=; b=l0CrH1G/OmXU4Qzl3B3uFKpB9J1/yDHp3ZEwvGqSWwXi93bMXnfMyF9tfFcPcWmr0+ OF6+7n0Gn4zpPMGNVPCfrRVZ+CDuwF62ek0d4TZmGKfnGtbXAEQg1jWB7sAlCXjVB8qX ozee0W4KujBmZU52A8KaB2BCT5qGkcr1sNVa2ccPWtoshvNr0JWVu99UxhE15V+W+2EU j+V0btFgq+X0SRyy19vDsrl+ZukQs3BX6vNiM96Pn8GuXxgOJyA/ycNzQRWCMB+kU2aJ P8rKqfPzPlHoQU9+ALKmJgBScfBWO/q3lORHGKHD/bzJLsnBpzgFnXF6UXkH6ZF0VPNO e58w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIsyLM+l4ECPlXQwnCmH7K0CKVpydHjD1OX/qlf7zaPEf0reDuF+LGH08il35dlv8SnL98CqJvKsWVC7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.77.39 with SMTP id p7mr15767210wjw.93.1458646539332; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.72.84 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.72.84 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:35:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:35:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE UEFI hangs upon booting with install media. From: Tomek CEDRO To: "Ardie H. Hwang" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:35:41 -0000 Also you can try to disable ACPI on boot..? -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 03:31:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84615AD89A5 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 03:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wa5qjh@xmission.com) Received: from out02.mta.xmission.com (out02.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D4B71DA4 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 03:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wa5qjh@xmission.com) Received: from in01.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.51]) by out02.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aiBe8-00006a-7y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:02:12 -0600 Received: from [121.54.58.133] (helo=[192.168.8.101]) by in01.mta.xmission.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aiBe6-0005j0-VF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:02:12 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: wa5qjh Message-ID: <56F0A79C.1080004@xmission.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:02:04 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-XM-AID: U2FsdGVkX1+OUdscy1ThNkUd0sJt3bkF X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 121.54.58.133 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: wa5qjh@xmission.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on sa07.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG,XMNumbers autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: No description available. * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.5134] * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1] * 1.0 XMNumbers Suspicious email with numbers in From & Subject X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: ;freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 504 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.06 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 4.2 (0.8%), b_tie_ro: 2.9 (0.6%), parse: 0.95 (0.2%), extract_message_metadata: 16 (3.2%), get_uri_detail_list: 2.3 (0.5%), tests_pri_-1000: 4.6 (0.9%), tests_pri_-950: 1.20 (0.2%), tests_pri_-900: 1.00 (0.2%), tests_pri_-400: 21 (4.2%), check_bayes: 20 (4.0%), b_tokenize: 6 (1.1%), b_tok_get_all: 7 (1.4%), b_comp_prob: 2.3 (0.5%), b_tok_touch_all: 3.0 (0.6%), b_finish: 0.70 (0.1%), tests_pri_0: 231 (45.8%), check_dkim_signature: 0.53 (0.1%), check_dkim_adsp: 3.5 (0.7%), tests_pri_500: 220 (43.7%), poll_dns_idle: 215 (42.6%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: drm i915_gem_object errors in dmesg X-Spam-Flag: No X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:00:52 -0600) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in01.mta.xmission.com) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:41:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 03:31:13 -0000 Has anybody else seen anything of the following drm error? I had 414 copies of it in my most recent dmesg: error: [drm:pid9:i915_gem_object_unbind] *ERROR* Attempting to unbind pinned buffer And have been getting it for some 4-6 months now after an update. I'm not real sure when it started, just an approximate time when I noticed it. I am currently running: FreeBSD pcbsd-1011 10.2-RELEASE-p15 FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p15 #0: Thu Mar 17 11:41:37 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.pcbsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 FreeBSD ver:.......10.2-RELEASE-p15 PC-BSD ver:........10.2 On an ASUS MB using an intel video gpu on the motherboard. Sorry, I dont know what other info might be germaine but would be very quick to supply same as advised. In a way of troubleshooting I shut the system down and turned power completly off for several minutes to allowthe power supply to completly bleed off. This because dmesg seems to pick up erroprs generated and repoerted in previous dmesg lists After power-up, the following is the relavant part opf the dmesg errors: --- info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 drmn0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) info: [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010). info: [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query. drmn0: taking over the fictitious range 0xe0000000-0xf0000000 info: [drm] Enabling RC6 states: RC6 off, RC6p off, RC6pp off info: [drm] Connector VGA-1: get mode from tunables: info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.modes.VGA-1 info: [drm] - kern.vt.fb.default_mode fbd0 on drmn0 info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for drmn0 on minor 0 error: [drm:pid2006:gen6_sanitize_pm] *ERROR* Power management discrepancy: GEN6_RP_INTERRUPT_LIMIT --- after a short while (~10 minutes) , no further drm errors were reportd More important, has anybody seen a cure for it? -- -- Gary Corell The world would be a nicer place if everyone took a chill pill. It would be even nicer if some of them choked on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 11:56:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0D5AD8523 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@ardiefox.me) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE1A6A32 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iam@ardiefox.me) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300A8211E7 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:56:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ardiefox.me; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=ME3X1GYo+fRIerZNYNNpxRp8NlY=; b=NSOu0Z W2+U7JNP4tPcHIzJvJmk3TbWXgs3P9MsGvUY7SRPHTrvKeu7wi22NUroCki+Zeq5 m+C0fNHoQBJel5bBlH7b4bXRq4CI3fyZqbcjEM80LLYOg4MbdgVouQ1c4U7FkaaP ftSpO6dm7qZktvT6XAQjYIO59lp37KlBdUSWM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=ME3X1GYo+fRIerZ NYNNpxRp8NlY=; b=BHyIM4LMlDYPz5WvfQ3oFEMtTe8hNsw5Z9SYqc2whxfSV9l CQ8GHsd79FhW2OaGOdCnacjGzkZmEpDRtBV7fLvyFYUGlu/TRjLJLbqqgQZ+Tn0s wSuBGqqXcIWtOJeC7HC14eTJr94wdPdAJls0cwgi+TbZvVBNYcrcviQCTxAA= Received: by web5.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id EEEAFAC64CC; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1458647789.2277725.556289610.2684DC99@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: vJjF9LKW0MV+vIfEFDeAwjUA5PQgZdUpgGjX+EefnJwD 1458647789 From: "Ardie H. Hwang" To: CeDeROM Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2b37838c Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE UEFI hangs upon booting with install media. Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:56:29 +0900 In-Reply-To: References: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:56:32 -0000 Thanks for all your answers, krad and Tomek. I have tried both DVD and USB media with 10.3-PRERELEASE, and so far no success. But for now, ACPI does not look like the source of problem; I enabled verbose output from the boot menu, and got this additional message: ``` ... [snip] ... acpi0: on motherboard ACPI: All ACPI Tables successfully acquired PCIe: Memory Mapped configuration base @ 0xf8000000 ``` Then PCIe might be the source of problem now? -- Ardie H. Hwang ---------------- email: iam@ardiefox.me From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 11:57:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B44AD85F3 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABD3BC9 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E66A7AD85F2; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AC5AD85F0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A85CBC8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [198.71.6.89]) by mail2.nber.org (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u2MBuDDT051835 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:56:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:56:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Olivier Nicole cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Phishing]Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LRH 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, disabled by settings X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: not scanned X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2016/03/21 09:45:52 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.721, bases: 2016/03/22 05:25:00 #7302786 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:57:38 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > What anti-virus are you using with FreeBSD? beside ClamAV that is. > > I had been using Kaspersky for years, but they are withdrawing their > support for FreeBSD, so i will not renew my license in October. > > So I need a replacement, that has a daemonised version. > > Best regards, > > Olivier > -- Will Linux Kaspersky run under FreeBSD's Linux emulation? daniel feenberg NBER From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 12:07:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D91AD7142 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S32.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s32.hotmail.com [65.55.111.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51E8012A0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP82 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S32.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:06:26 -0700 X-TMN: [wxrmfTrYU9SQVbDUY4rFoVuKdwu+1mDf] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:06:18 -0400 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and updating to new release Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2016 12:06:25.0519 (UTC) FILETIME=[41F467F0:01D18433] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:07:33 -0000 I tried Googling; however, I could not find a definitive answer. I am currently running "FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT" on my system. Once "FreeBSD 11" is officially released, will I be able to update to that release with the "freebsd-update" application using the "newrelease" option, or will I have to manually install it first? 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Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:19:47 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: Daniel Feenberg Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Phishing]Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: (message from Daniel Feenberg on Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:56:12 -0400 (EDT)) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:19:47 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:19:55 -0000 Daniel, > Will Linux Kaspersky run under FreeBSD's Linux emulation? While that *may* work, I don't think it's teh way to go on a production system: - it would not be supported (if you pay for a license, it's also to get support). - the day it breaks, you are alone and have no back-up. Thank you, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 12:36:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA92AD7D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BE87AF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E11A8AD7D3E; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BF0AD7D3D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AC8E7AE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id r129so91032536wmr.1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:36:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=Y/GZLudaZkiOEnu3iXgxeHPj5M6pF/1Kb4U01zpsA4c=; b=HeMK2kcUjz22MDtTBKX6hnHU3HeWXucx0o+71JoTt8XdR9hjYwiZym3IB5qZcQYBX6 sYm+P4ZhBO8Kb0wPXqluD1LR8REoRmbk16haVBTEPbRHLuSksulENUGyyMcdHXOPoLZ0 bXbrVHEVuhM6vec+TiCGFYrbRvRpMUbt0n+PDed8mXspG8FHF9TxA3/UQks/XFvhmR4X 7LUJ7zAvoID1X/s8dUlzb4F8po02ZWjN+HZpmA7AnrEjwVpwPxOqw7p9Df3QKvPp70vO zEiOftKSThCIrryaJTRuEBpWPDnPIpqkYsmVFtvz2X2yw5MpWL+2ARSKg13zHewH8nLK 4xhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=Y/GZLudaZkiOEnu3iXgxeHPj5M6pF/1Kb4U01zpsA4c=; b=GAQPYvmBjRNW2bn6QV7q1RVHiCsINj7TjNkhPXgrkwayf5za1y13kaiVj911KnOvOL lY/wNE9NCF18f72WDhJImaiHelSVmvuf0VCP0pENmi7wHIvktyUK8SaUNSiF76R4qSrp Y/+x1CzGJLuBO1fUSqJFl1izjR6V/OcYt7f6Zqj+gcEO59VczBNeYvl2TmZ/Wb0o3jC0 q/QLwnc5/uaTPWxqo72vIU1l2+/noq59be+VZtQjlzbm4u2etRlDvtjFip2c7BbNQt0/ Y+N7tm1Tt8/5ZV5pUaDn90V71fnglAUJblKJoteCtVQNTuGxx3Sue8RhmK/L8DJEdMau OFtg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKjeO1SdNARJ8SwyfbTFVLWi4h+u4rpm2Hv96J8/3QuYIpnz7cGdgYKBwPItBTnv3686QeHmAkGcpy5+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.54.19 with SMTP id d19mr20181965wma.30.1458650180777; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.68 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:36:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:36:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Phishing]Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: krad To: Olivier Nicole Cc: Daniel Feenberg , questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:36:23 -0000 looking round most vendor seem to be dropping support for bsd tbh On 22 March 2016 at 12:19, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Daniel, > > > Will Linux Kaspersky run under FreeBSD's Linux emulation? > > While that *may* work, I don't think it's teh way to go on a production > system: > > - it would not be supported (if you pay for a license, it's also to get > support). > > - the day it breaks, you are alone and have no back-up. > > Thank you, > > Olivier > > -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 12:45:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D5FAD9011 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65D41CCA for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id p65so190911193wmp.1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:45:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=2qXfu5v7InAQ4Fyv6vm8tdt4ZIgyiecPeObU4j1LMBg=; b=htjtZqHewtfIBfpfzwEsQgHnNfq3+nm7OnWmyCVedH/YbA56PJ5hkRvbekKZBzPJ2Q dplbgu+iYhZo3eIC0c5i48PEpe5EPGXMpvcYr3GHcE3hROOTvaYBi3ajz71lRxpaos3K PhDJPWUQiaAQJQLSrE7qvs+PLK3b062SYMmPIZIjaM0VVk4ny+F+DaoPgiH4sIuT7+4h vrG+p126qQtuROn6arS8YXy/JmNxhbD9RamrDSKIrBqiidOrXAlipEmra044V6EIEkVe DWAIofnbYM3aYhvIjqEwXSx/9MTZkJwnJu4x9DXoFZaiY/hXGkwd7FTzM2pkQSKBPTFt zK1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=2qXfu5v7InAQ4Fyv6vm8tdt4ZIgyiecPeObU4j1LMBg=; b=M/EwaaWJOAJ+B9h9r1Qm8OEBW6TXIFOqMqcVfY4NBos05vqU6j2XMkCSJ31nzaOqJM 0ye0qgsra92ztPCmzyu8wzRdeiTuNv9lEzvcsxs45IBTvkc0NltYHhQmUCdWqCiGZ5CV sHyEA9hDBELRQ+KSZ2a+H6DLvXDRZRwfOpXw1bxlrFw/5mkvCMInHeBX9JyOnt3q/kwO 7aKNMHr3JW6eHoZ4E1LP7T4Lt8HAY8JCHZ6L3k+ZUvpNacjnpdPq+KD/adEIuk6pYaj0 21J8oMewipmGXO4X9I3crirMk2u/+6RSJaMIYcFboxb26jhDfOadordodeSScG//d7hJ 2pow== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJInAf4ZzFUFmEUnMm/vgcHWKaZ5NJONHTWEexNyteyJoVPo/+RWIFmxbTH2MBecU3xehZ7+RxwiGxswlQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.232.87 with SMTP id f84mr20529568wmh.56.1458650752700; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.72.84 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.72.84 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:45:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1458647789.2277725.556289610.2684DC99@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1458639768.2248925.556187538.4A21BE30@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1458647789.2277725.556289610.2684DC99@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:45:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5djSbYYj2fajcUXqrVEYz0KUojE Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE UEFI hangs upon booting with install media. From: CeDeROM To: "Ardie H. Hwang" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:45:54 -0000 There are several setup options for your motherboard/bios/uefi, you may be interested in compatibility modes for uefi vs legacy for disks and devices. These caused problems for me. Also you can boot in legacy mode, install in uefi mode, then boot the os with uefi mode. Remember to create dedicated fat partition 100MB in size then dd it with efiboot, so you can boot your FreeBSD in uefi :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 13:42:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42878AD909B for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) Received: from nm40-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F358FB68 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1458654059; bh=QnvolQ26qQ82DqmczNhdQVe4Iei5mGs12vgjM0BUDao=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=ntH50Cp2yiCB/QGedn3qv6yGyQ9Tlt82dde5c+sB1O7quWcFe1cwLTG8obi0PQDN6a9xylUGdGLN8QsJIfveq1m4r2tLgs6zGl4mduu/DBCB9b17eGnXl0xobbIWlgEf0hSH6I3SRix01uPn23V8zO+WwVfVor1fHQrdSHnZFer7LSCXJ0QtUnUeo71OQsV/fFgoWT/I7fxNJCw296vb9mtf+7qlZ2Gx3Xkr4xPbs+s7vzvYNOpicZxCbqZhux60Gj9nuNZ3V2NbLsVXkg2axdiZSsg4hpG3pHX/WJHdqSt7fHM7U+bTJGgOj/fad0bYOc6bXtMoWpPF8VP6/fZX0w== Received: from [98.139.170.179] by nm40.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2016 13:40:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.218] by tm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2016 13:40:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2016 13:40:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 541000.34786.bm@omp1027.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: by 66.196.80.113; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:40:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:40:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Teng Zhang Reply-To: "unixreader@yahoo.com" To: Unixreader Mydog via Freebsd-questions Message-ID: <4251199.3261655.1458654057744.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: some confusion in socket(2) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4251199.3261655.1458654057744.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:42:48 -0000 hello, in socket(2), the following sentence:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0SOCK_RAW sockets provide access to internal network protocols and interf= aces.My confusion is what are included in the range of "internal network pr= otocols and interfaces". Could you please tell me the answer or where i can= find relevant information. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 14:01:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8B3AD9640 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9DE8AF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CD958AD963F; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD360AD963E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71B8AE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 369E1CB8C8B; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:01:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:01:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19099.128.135.52.6.1458655269.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:01:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Olivier Nicole" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:01:16 -0000 On Mon, March 21, 2016 11:38 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > What anti-virus are you using with FreeBSD? beside ClamAV that is. > > I had been using Kaspersky for years, but they are withdrawing their > support for FreeBSD, so i will not renew my license in October. It sounds like great moment to re-consider what you have been using. Kaspersky is KGB guy (not ex-KGB, is he will say, as in this kind of service there is no "ex", you retire from that service dead, feet first dead). Now, think about your users whose files, with potentially confidential information will be accessible to proprietary code created by/for one or the other intelligence agency (I don't distinguish here KGB, CIA, MI-6, Siguranza,...) Open source scanners, (especially community created like clamav) would be much saner choice. To mention one commercial choice I used on Windows systems: AVG. But on Unix, clamav, definitely. Just my $0.02 Valeri > > So I need a replacement, that has a daemonised version. > > Best regards, > > Olivier ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 14:07:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F479AD97B7 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E51B69 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id F347AAD97B6; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EE8AD97B5 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp205.alice.it (smtp205.alice.it [82.57.200.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92750B68 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (82.58.25.117) by smtp205.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 56332F71247D88CD for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:07:42 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u2ME7fVU022909 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:07:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: RC script not working To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56F151AD.7090009@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:07:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:07:47 -0000 Hello. I've installed WeeWX in a jail and found the following startup script somewhere: > #!/bin/sh > # Start script for FreeBSD, contributed by user Fabian Abplanalp > # Adjust app and cfg locations as appropriate, then put this script > # in /usr/local/etc/rc.d > # > WEEWX_BIN="/home/weewx/bin/weewxd" > WEEWX_CFG="/home/weewx/weewx.conf" > PIDFILE="/var/run/weewx.pid" > > case "$1" in > "start") > echo "Starting weewx..." > /usr/local/bin/python ${WEEWX_BIN} ${WEEWX_CFG} --daemon & > echo $! > ${PIDFILE} > echo "done" > ;; > > "stop") > echo "Stopping weewx..." > if [ -f ${PIDFILE} ] ; then > kill `cat ${PIDFILE}` > rm ${PIDFILE} > echo "done" > else > echo "not running?" > fi > ;; > > "restart") > echo "Restarting weewx..." > $0 stop > sleep 2 > $0 start > ;; > > *) > echo "$0 [start|stop|restart]" > ;; > > esac It works if I issue "service weewx [start|stop|restart]", but it won't start the program on boot (or on jail restart). Why? Any sample of a rc.d script to start a Python deamon? bye & Thanks av. 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It's a legacy type of script rather than an rcng script. If you put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and give a name with a .sh extension, it should get started. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 15:37:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A1BAD8BDD for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangteng331@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 308B68F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangteng331@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id m184so247019926iof.1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:37:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=+rlY+/pJP8KdbdV+N79ihqlc8hc6vPybyZqIZEVmYQA=; b=o6xMUwSULcJLxEB1/JCx+h75NQL+a4H3BpE9Nh0AeABFK1ZftFMhfrzJYG9DCik8vB TgRB6St0zb1ZbD8U7fldWjayeGLhDRXQQbWPK30EumVlmqftIv8+6dbeLWc3NJhp5V/d 6OpSqA59pdzTBbDT86l0TzxL+7m3E4uHNPkGWWuTbBwxNHuCk/72adb+7PfHIFeTLIlI jxyZ1H+P7k0kCYyfCUuIyN2cY+bkjtyyq6RtbNfSXS8WUoSZt1PGoHKqAI/UsijauJFM vBH+gvFiq8gZPXULh0l/aU0QU7rxpJvGVKC8Fxe0goKiy6AP129qrMzbNLv4XNWvKfeT mMzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=+rlY+/pJP8KdbdV+N79ihqlc8hc6vPybyZqIZEVmYQA=; b=VuxYuag2YiVIMFCuI5gXX6rG+BlAustPFdUm5ejv9efpIjuupehdMJ4mrKGR/aLtKb xrTRZlNi4A+DnaXQqpcfOzAWxZPha/dBoplqmprFYZpe9L+N+wJ0zLjd3H+fUqWGKQcX fQJEY3nqqrvqFHOVz+2Cl6T1OVMT0SiUMuyiyHxrEmGx9UnSj6B1TcJuiFnfJzF+IR1Q ptmZU5XK1R5ro0MUO7nGwIJtWC7CeqCgnINC6r5PqFZNJa9aW33uOdarxremoo/dIlFB G9pc0BgPfQoGdNDGKgW4TSDwegP7dWrdbp5cFrm6W19TOftUCJoA64qKfw7hq6Mr2DPr NRIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLkSbpydjas61/UxFy1gYq7mhCaNHBY7FtxVe+kyTRuNnIok0hKT17PbC+8ZuuEeezSigw9RrEHfCRDRg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.169.223 with SMTP id f92mr33654959ioj.192.1458661025504; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.149 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.149 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 23:37:05 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD i386 on AMD64 From: Teng Zhang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:37:06 -0000 hello,everybody , i want to know whether it's possible to run FreeBSD i386(non UEFI)on AMD64 platform(my machine is Thinkpad T420, includes UEFI) or not. Could you please tell me? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 15:45:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D27AD8F70 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DCBBACB for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-133.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2916277D3; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:44:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2MFiwb6001948; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:44:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:44:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Teng Zhang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD i386 on AMD64 Message-Id: <20160322164458.6cd3da3d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:45:07 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 23:37:05 +0800, Teng Zhang wrote: > hello,everybody , i want to know whether it's possible to run FreeBSD > i386(non UEFI)on AMD64 platform(my machine is Thinkpad T420, includes UEFI) > or not. Could you please tell me? This should work. I'm currently running FreeBSD 8 (i386) on my amd64-compatible (64 bit) home system. Just keep in mind there are some limitations (like the amound of RAM usable, or the width of certain data types). Example: % uname -m i386 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 4300 @ 1.80GHz (1799.81-MHz 686-class CPU), which is an amd64-type CPU. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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([2606:6000:cd06:7f00:69c8:a12:1eab:872a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u2sm49227240pfi.26.2016.03.22.08.49.13 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD i386 on AMD64 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Brian Message-ID: <56F1697B.6040009@brianwhalen.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:49:15 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:49:15 -0000 I have been doing this for years because the disk this is on started on an i386 machine. $ uname -a FreeBSD numail 10.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.3-PRERELEASE #178 r297130: Sun Mar 20 20:45:02 PDT 2016 root@numail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ grep AMD /var/log/messages Mar 20 19:17:14 numail kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (2204.65-MHz 686-class CPU) Mar 20 19:17:14 numail kernel: Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x40fb2 Family=0xf Model=0x4b Stepping=2 Mar 20 19:17:14 numail kernel: AMD Features=0xea500800 Mar 20 19:17:14 numail kernel: AMD Features2=0x1f Mar 21 10:04:58 numail kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (2204.64-MHz 686-class CPU) Mar 21 10:04:58 numail kernel: Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x40fb2 Family=0xf Model=0x4b Stepping=2 Mar 21 10:04:58 numail kernel: AMD Features=0xea500800 Mar 21 10:04:58 numail kernel: AMD Features2=0x1f On 3/22/2016 8:37 AM, Teng Zhang wrote: > hello,everybody , i want to know whether it's possible to run FreeBSD > i386(non UEFI)on AMD64 platform(my machine is Thinkpad T420, includes UEFI) > or not. Could you please tell me? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 15:55:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0339AD9345 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A6D562 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id p65so198819039wmp.1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:55:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=IkQOUOdeQ9+UslSbcvfRxr3Pk+j5nuHpN6Urm1LwcnU=; b=GU9NXt8/jQujovV4X4muGwO18OeXdilm+dVRx6CbQJcQb5a8GTyy7H1l2BVSc1XJdQ Xw0UURfIlMQYf9RtVJxslT/CQMDYOwEgsL+H6uRchR8oD4btSzI9kYnZ+WkgCAW3eynj RxoHPAk/uc2wmPPUJXKLrpxJw7jL4SaIsE/0vID0G3OJLkwCUALRCesN9PkFn+bPalGn nWyMv9FegDWjLqxjDgGmyIz4rGUpDGx7Ou0WS2vgsGhuUj7nn+ELhXKwwLMOqdKpMZxR d3fw2Z3T1ogXdyiRUB/xe9mwStYGjgJ0FyyVfmuKfv8bYpNHnUWaJi5E8Dcu9VrsX7eb 18iQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=IkQOUOdeQ9+UslSbcvfRxr3Pk+j5nuHpN6Urm1LwcnU=; b=cyuVq12Cvi2FRiMJvhbk/pAXYcxZKhjIwH0k0PI1EzCI3ndnSwH1E6kXdiul2+cbtN W0qsL12WwnMmpteIOjhYuEWnxWz7K96gdXKkhBbnYXG6Xx6hrST4xr5O9297yVZ6ZrEo zbv4FEx0LEXPkawtTl1aiN/LYLa+SgsPtvMQTt58k6lkDQXZnsX6yKBRDgWZWN1cDK9X DvjpZbpRHpNzfKni3p/pQd45fBM0CSsQYx1IrQsdKd7ny6ejZg9BZmG4sCl13g8Ib3iV WGQqxNoeUWa9yciyFgNPUMbct7gu486EbgwM8Flj013k2XEl0p7aQfgWuM3UHGj7Jgxu 1MnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKDmyJdOteJAJAb4O+BNMGcmLkJsV6fLkU85mobkipdd/s4fesKT4TVUjzSxBlW26rftwVQwESou5mHJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.11.69 with SMTP id 66mr21401167wml.103.1458662116564; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.72.84 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:55:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:55:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mPOlfs2yPUSSBHiUoFO3hq5KB9c Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD i386 on AMD64 From: CeDeROM To: Teng Zhang Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:55:19 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Teng Zhang wrote: > hello,everybody , i want to know whether it's possible to run FreeBSD > i386(non UEFI)on AMD64 platform(my machine is Thinkpad T420, includes UEFI) > or not. Could you please tell me? This will work, no problem, except for standard i386 limitations like RAM amount and disk sizes.. FreeBSD (maybe only AMD64) can also overcome some i386/BIOS limitations like disk size even when booted with no UEFI capable hardware :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 17:06:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA82AD978C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from mailbox.talkpoint.com (mailbox.talkpoint.com [204.141.10.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A89FB8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.talkpoint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6451F66003 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:59:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at talkpoint.com Received: from mailbox.talkpoint.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailbox.talkpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94jowmkZVWhv for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pleiades.nextvenue.com (pleiades.talkpoint.com [204.141.15.194]) by mailbox.talkpoint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F70F66001 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:59:35 -0400 From: Nick Evans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Intel 750 Panic Unmounting During TRIM Message-ID: <20160322125935.6be25e20@pleiades.nextvenue.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:06:43 -0000 I've got a test system with a 400GB Intel 750 NVME SSD formatted UFS 1mb/4k aligned http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-750-series.html I moved a 50 gigabyte directory off the drive so I could try another drive configuration and while the drive was trimming, I ran umount on the mounted device. umount sat there without returning to the prompt. On another terminal, mount showed the drive unmounted, but after a minute or so in this state with gstat running to show io, the system panicked. I tried to reproduce this a second time by generating a 100gb file from /dev/zero. Deleted the file ran umount which hung again. This time after a while it returned to the prompt stating the device was busy so I tried to umount again while the drive was still trimming. After a short while the system panicked. It seems the panic happens when the TRIM finishes while umount is trying to do its thing. The system is 10.2-RELEASE-p13, GENERIC kernel, Intel 4790K on a Asus Z97-A motherboard, 32GB ram. I have a second Intel 750 drive in another PCI Express slot but it's unused at the moment. Below are the dumps recorded after the system booted back up. This is a test system so I can bring it up and down as needed to test fixes. The second dump is from my reproduced test: panic: losing buffer 1 cpuid = 2 KDB: stack backtrace: #0 0xffffffff80984ef0 at kdb_backtrace+0x60 #1 0xffffffff80948aa6 at vpanic+0x126 #2 0xffffffff80948973 at panic+0x43 #3 0xffffffff809d241b at brelse+0x70b #4 0xffffffff809e9fa7 at flushbuflist+0x137 #5 0xffffffff809e9c1b at bufobj_invalbuf+0x1cb #6 0xffffffff808acf29 at g_vfs_close+0x29 #7 0xffffffff80ba3487 at ffs_unmount+0x2a7 #8 0xffffffff809e4dbf at dounmount+0x4ef #9 0xffffffff809e48c6 at sys_unmount+0x456 #10 0xffffffff80d4b3e7 at amd64_syscall+0x357 #11 0xffffffff80d30acb at Xfast_syscall+0xfb Uptime: 21m6s Dumping 1426 out of 32426 MB:..2%..11%..21%..31%..41%..51%..61%..71%..81%..91% #0 doadump (textdump=) at pcpu.h:219 219 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. in pcpu.h (kgdb) #0 doadump (textdump=) at pcpu.h:219 #1 0xffffffff80948702 in kern_reboot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:451 #2 0xffffffff80948ae5 in vpanic (fmt=, ap=) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:758 #3 0xffffffff80948973 in panic (fmt=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:687 #4 0xffffffff809d241b in brelse (bp=) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:1768 #5 0xffffffff809e9fa7 in flushbuflist (bufv=, flags=, bo=0xfffff80014236db8, slpflag=, slptimeo=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1436 #6 0xffffffff809e9c1b in bufobj_invalbuf (bo=0xfffff80014236db8, flags=1, slpflag=0, slptimeo=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1312 #7 0xffffffff808acf29 in g_vfs_close (cp=0xfffff80014126e80) at /usr/src/sys/geom/geom_vfs.c:277 #8 0xffffffff80ba3487 in ffs_unmount (mp=0xfffff80014317000, mntflags=) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1272 #9 0xffffffff809e4dbf in dounmount (mp=0xfffff80014317000, flags=134217728, td=0xfffff800141a4000) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1316 #10 0xffffffff809e48c6 in sys_unmount (td=0xfffff800141a4000, uap=0xfffffe084caffa40) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1208 #11 0xffffffff80d4b3e7 in amd64_syscall (td=0xfffff800141a4000, traced=0) at subr_syscall.c:134 #12 0xffffffff80d30acb in Xfast_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:396 #13 0x000000080089190a in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) Current language: auto; currently minimal (kgdb) panic: losing buffer 1 cpuid = 3 KDB: stack backtrace: #0 0xffffffff80984ef0 at kdb_backtrace+0x60 #1 0xffffffff80948aa6 at vpanic+0x126 #2 0xffffffff80948973 at panic+0x43 #3 0xffffffff809d241b at brelse+0x70b #4 0xffffffff809e9fa7 at flushbuflist+0x137 #5 0xffffffff809e9c1b at bufobj_invalbuf+0x1cb #6 0xffffffff808acf29 at g_vfs_close+0x29 #7 0xffffffff80ba3487 at ffs_unmount+0x2a7 #8 0xffffffff809e4dbf at dounmount+0x4ef #9 0xffffffff809e48c6 at sys_unmount+0x456 #10 0xffffffff80d4b3e7 at amd64_syscall+0x357 #11 0xffffffff80d30acb at Xfast_syscall+0xfb Uptime: 1h29m40s Dumping 2342 out of 32426 MB:..1%..11%..21%..31%..41%..51%..61%..71%..81%..91% #0 doadump (textdump=) at pcpu.h:219 219 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. in pcpu.h (kgdb) #0 doadump (textdump=) at pcpu.h:219 #1 0xffffffff80948702 in kern_reboot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:451 #2 0xffffffff80948ae5 in vpanic (fmt=, ap=) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:758 #3 0xffffffff80948973 in panic (fmt=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:687 #4 0xffffffff809d241b in brelse (bp=) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:1768 #5 0xffffffff809e9fa7 in flushbuflist (bufv=, flags=, bo=0xfffff8001428fa08, slpflag=, slptimeo=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1436 #6 0xffffffff809e9c1b in bufobj_invalbuf (bo=0xfffff8001428fa08, flags=1, slpflag=0, slptimeo=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1312 #7 0xffffffff808acf29 in g_vfs_close (cp=0xfffff80014033700) at /usr/src/sys/geom/geom_vfs.c:277 #8 0xffffffff80ba3487 in ffs_unmount (mp=0xfffff800142b0000, mntflags=) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1272 #9 0xffffffff809e4dbf in dounmount (mp=0xfffff800142b0000, flags=134217728, td=0xfffff8001434c000) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1316 #10 0xffffffff809e48c6 in sys_unmount (td=0xfffff8001434c000, uap=0xfffffe084cb0aa40) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1208 #11 0xffffffff80d4b3e7 in amd64_syscall (td=0xfffff8001434c000, traced=0) at subr_syscall.c:134 #12 0xffffffff80d30acb in Xfast_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:396 #13 0x000000080089190a in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) Current language: auto; currently minimal (kgdb) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 17:37:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B98AD9DC9 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79D1DCB for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 43C3D33C27; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:37:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: "unixreader\@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: some confusion in socket(2) References: <4251199.3261655.1458654057744.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <4251199.3261655.1458654057744.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:37:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4251199.3261655.1458654057744.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> (Teng Zhang via freebsd-questions's message of "Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:40:57 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <4460weh0ri.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:37:49 -0000 Teng Zhang via freebsd-questions writes: > hello, in socket(2), the following sentence:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SOCK_RAW s= ockets > provide access to internal network protocols and interfaces.My > confusion is what are included in the range of "internal network > protocols and interfaces". Could you please tell me the answer or > where i can find relevant information. Raw sockets are nothing more than IP sockets without a transport protocol associated. Routing daemons and ping, for example, use raw sockets to directly control packet headers. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 18:43:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF7AAD9079 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [98.158.10.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C13E12D6; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u2MIhdcP070149; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u2MIhdcl070148; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:43:39 -0700 From: Jim Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Seeking a solid startup script for node.js/forever Message-ID: <20160322184339.GA64556@ns.umpquanet.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:43:46 -0000 Previously, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 23:52:25 +0000 > From: Matthew Seaman > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Seeking a solid startup script for node.js/forever > Message-ID: <56EC94B9.3010003@FreeBSD.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > On 18/03/2016 21:54, Jim Long wrote: > > Sigh. I should test before I post. > > > > The fix below is not sufficient. It "mostly works" from inside the jail: > > > > daemon(8) sounds like what you need. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Matthew: Thanks for your reply. I'm afraid however, I may need more of a clue than that. In my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/iws service script, I changed the start() function, but left the others (status, stop, restart) as they were: --snip-- start() { NODE_ENV=production # su -m www -c "exec ${forever} start -a -l ${HOME}/forever.log -o ${HOME}/output.log -e ${HOME}/error.log -p /var/run/forever ${script}" daemon -p /var/run/iws.pid -u www \ ${forever} start -a -l ${HOME}/forever.log -o ${HOME}/output.log -e ${HOME}/error.log -p /var/run/forever ${script} } status() { su -m www -c "exec ${forever} list" } stop() { su -m www -c "exec ${forever} stop ${script}" } restart() { su -m www -c "exec ${forever} restart ${script}" } --snip-- That makes no change in the symptoms: the script works fine from inside the jail, but from the host level, the script does not fork the forever/node process into the background, and therefore, 'service jail start' on the host does not complete and return to a shell prompt. Script started on Tue Mar 22 10:21:23 2016 # I'm running just one jail on this host: my_host : 10:21:23 /root# jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 3 10.16.231.41 my_jail /jail/my_jail my_host : 10:21:29 /root# jexec my_jail bash -l # Now I'm inside the jail. iws is disabled by default; I'll enable it: my_jail : 10:21:37 /# grep ^iws /etc/rc.conf iws_enable="NO" my_jail : 10:21:47 /# echo 'iws_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf # here is the service script in full, with an eof marker at the end: my_jail : 10:22:02 /# cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/iws ; echo '# --eof--' #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: forever # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS DAEMON # BEFORE: LOGIN # KEYWORD: shutdown # Taken from http://habrahabr.ru/post/137857/ . /etc/rc.subr name="forever" forever="/usr/local/bin/node /usr/local/bin/forever" workdir="/usr/local/IWS4" #script="web.js" #script="app.js" script="${workdir}/app.js" rcvar=iws_enable extra_commands="status" start_cmd="start" status_cmd="status" stop_cmd="stop" restart_cmd="restart" load_rc_config $name eval "${rcvar}=\${${rcvar}:-'NO'}" HOME=/usr/local/IWS4 start() { NODE_ENV=production # su -m www -c "exec ${forever} start -a -l ${HOME}/forever.log -o ${HOME}/output.log -e ${HOME}/error.log -p /var/run/forever ${script}" daemon -p /var/run/iws.pid -u www \ ${forever} start -a -l ${HOME}/forever.log -o ${HOME}/output.log -e ${HOME}/error.log -p /var/run/forever ${script} } status() { su -m www -c "exec ${forever} list" } stop() { su -m www -c "exec ${forever} stop ${script}" } restart() { su -m www -c "exec ${forever} restart ${script}" } run_rc_command "$1" # --eof-- # Inside the jail, the service starts okay: my_jail : 10:22:29 /# service iws start my_jail : 10:23:34 /# warn: --minUptime not set. Defaulting to: 1000ms warn: --spinSleepTime not set. Your script will exit if it does not stay up for at least 1000ms info: Forever processing file: /usr/local/IWS4/app.js # and it stops okay: service iws stop info: Forever stopped process: data: uid command script forever pid logfile uptime [0] tdVb /usr/local/bin/node /usr/local/IWS4/app.js 13497 13498 /usr/local/IWS4/forever.log 0:0:0:8.400 # a second stop throws the correct error: my_jail : 10:23:43 /# service iws stop error: Forever cannot find process with index: /usr/local/IWS4/app.js my_jail : 10:23:47 /# service iws start my_jail : 10:23:48 /# warn: --minUptime not set. Defaulting to: 1000ms warn: --spinSleepTime not set. Your script will exit if it does not stay up for at least 1000ms info: Forever processing file: /usr/local/IWS4/app.js # a second start also throws the correct error: service iws start daemon: process already running, pid: 13515 # status works: my_jail : 10:23:50 /# service iws status info: Forever processes running data: uid command script forever pid logfile uptime data: [0] H2tR /usr/local/bin/node /usr/local/IWS4/app.js 13516 13517 /usr/local/IWS4/forever.log 0:0:0:4.967 # restart works: my_jail : 10:23:54 /# service iws restart info: Forever restarted process(es): data: uid command script forever pid logfile uptime data: [0] H2tR /usr/local/bin/node /usr/local/IWS4/app.js 13516 13517 /usr/local/IWS4/forever.log 0:0:0:12.382 my_jail : 10:24:01 /# service iws status info: Forever processes running data: uid command script forever pid logfile uptime data: [0] H2tR /usr/local/bin/node /usr/local/IWS4/app.js 13516 13533 /usr/local/IWS4/forever.log 0:0:0:2.6 # when I return to the host, 'service jail stop' works: my_jail : 10:24:03 /# logout my_host : 10:25:54 /root# service jail stop Stopping jails: my_jail. # but from the host, 'service jail start' does not terminate: my_host : 10:26:02 /root# time service jail start Starting jails: load: 0.01 cmd: node 13914 [uwait] 123.25r 0.25u 0.02s 0% 33268k ^C real 2m7.917s user 0m0.007s sys 0m0.015s my_host : 10:28:17 /root# logout Script done on Tue Mar 22 10:28:26 2016 Have I mis-applied the daemon utility? Can you be more explicit about how I could apply it to my use case? I tried using the -f flag to daemon(8) with no improvement. Also, forcing daemon into the background using '&' made no difference: daemon -p /var/run/iws.pid -u www \ ${forever} start -a -l ${HOME}/forever.log -o ${HOME}/output.log -e ${HOME}/error.log -p /var/run/forever ${script} & Thank you very much! Please CC: me on any replies sent to the list. Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 19:31:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5CFAD9C55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com (mail-ig0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4CDBD8A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id l20so16366956igf.0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:31:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=WAxB7+D96n2TnrUoWxiEG+/C2NislGT9fYI2XrhW3T4=; b=fWlEaWagCh376Boj9JSLiliLPf0CRkbbgRR9a2GxHAf9WPjPhp0/ueVBuS1IjJdH3Z aXsQEd+ZJpaV8yo5tebPHk2Cr3uNTR+xw6uymRZ54gkwlMcKQY7f45vbxXyWEX/QhXAn rDcMDba/8hjTquoR1AuwvhGbUHb/i43aeUoPQlWWSTzriVKPIYcsBscjGSRVEOP9C5pa a0oglUnIQ0Vtu9DgCCZmEoawa8XiMYkpEMEk/RjglhwnQKPpQE3mdgetp5KzXFHqLe3f nTMaRhdrjWZu38yNfD4ZMgRYtimsGJPi+XSAaRi5xtu0qD/m4vXuAdxqao5a6qVhtxWi fbsg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLB5ylb4kMKvy5/0ET+kcmm28CSaTpXLEnyL0MHVKEbtFMEOBxgEfPV79bzSPBRfg== X-Received: by 10.50.50.177 with SMTP id d17mr20670028igo.32.1458673713850; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (174-30-255-178.mpls.qwest.net. [174.30.255.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 1sm8004701igy.20.2016.03.22.12.08.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:08:32 -0700 (PDT) References: User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Carmel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:08:44 -0500 Message-ID: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:31:36 -0000 Carmel writes: > Once "FreeBSD 11" is officially released, will I be able to update to > that release with the "freebsd-update" application using the > "newrelease" option...? The short answer is "No." The longer answer is a complex one. First, only -RELEASEs receive binary updates; tracking a development branch makes using freebsd-update impossible. From the freebsd-update(8) man page: || Note that updates are only available if they are being built for the || FreeBSD release and architecture being used; in particular, the || FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in || binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, e.g., FreeBSD || 9.3-RELEASE and FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE, but not FreeBSD 9.3-STABLE or || FreeBSD 11-CURRENT. You will need to stop pulling updates for your system from the -CURRENT branch once the code freeze is in effect, delete your local source tree, check out the source for the releng/11.0 branch (some time durin the Beta or Release Client phases), and update your system from that, right up until 11.0 is released. Once 11.0 is actually released you can perform a final upgrade to it from source, and you should be able to get binary updates for it from then on. Be aware, though, that freebsd-update will become obsolete with the 11.0-RELEASE anyway. All binary base system updates for 11.0 onward will be distributed in a package format compatible with pkg(8). It will still be possible to update from source, if you find you prefer that in the end. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 20:25:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EEDAD8B4E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pho@holm.cc) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52FD6BC7 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pho@holm.cc) Received: from x2.osted.lan (87-58-223-204-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net [87.58.223.204]) by relay01.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BDED00C8A; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from x2.osted.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u2MKPLsS035130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:25:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pho@x2.osted.lan) Received: (from pho@localhost) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u2MKPK0K035129; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:25:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pho) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:25:20 +0100 From: Peter Holm To: Nick Evans Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Konstantin Belousov Subject: Re: Intel 750 Panic Unmounting During TRIM Message-ID: <20160322202520.GA32179@x2.osted.lan> References: <20160322125935.6be25e20@pleiades.nextvenue.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160322125935.6be25e20@pleiades.nextvenue.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:25:31 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Nick Evans wrote: > I've got a test system with a 400GB Intel 750 NVME SSD formatted UFS > 1mb/4k aligned > > http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-750-series.html > > I moved a 50 gigabyte directory off the drive so I could try another > drive configuration and while the drive was trimming, I ran umount on > the mounted device. umount sat there without returning to the prompt. On > another terminal, mount showed the drive unmounted, but after a minute > or so in this state with gstat running to show io, the system panicked. > > I tried to reproduce this a second time by generating a 100gb file from > /dev/zero. Deleted the file ran umount which hung again. This time > after a while it returned to the prompt stating the device was > busy so I tried to umount again while the drive was still trimming. > After a short while the system panicked. It seems the panic happens > when the TRIM finishes while umount is trying to do its thing. The > system is 10.2-RELEASE-p13, GENERIC kernel, Intel 4790K on a Asus Z97-A > motherboard, 32GB ram. I have a second Intel 750 drive in another PCI > Express slot but it's unused at the moment. > > Below are the dumps recorded after the system booted back up. This is a > test system so I can bring it up and down as needed to test fixes. The > second dump is from my reproduced test: > > > panic: losing buffer 1 > cpuid = 2 I see a different panic with this scenario: panic: Lock Per-Filesystem Softdep Lock not exclusively locked @ ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:1950 https://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/trim7.txt - Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 20:51:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DCCAD91A5 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timon@timon.net.nz) Received: from flare.plasmahost.ru (static.155.109.4.46.clients.your-server.de [46.4.109.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 867F71836 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timon@timon.net.nz) Received: from [193.41.76.135] (helo=timon.home.timon.net.nz) by flare.plasmahost.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1aiSr6-000CZi-Qp; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:24:45 +0000 Subject: Re: drm i915_gem_object errors in dmesg To: wa5qjh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56F0A79C.1080004@xmission.com> From: Alexandr Matveev Message-ID: <56F1AA0B.4010600@timon.net.nz> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 23:24:43 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56F0A79C.1080004@xmission.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:51:20 -0000 On 22.03.2016 05:02, wa5qjh wrote: > > Has anybody else seen anything of the following drm error? I had 414 > copies of > it in my most recent dmesg: > > error: [drm:pid9:i915_gem_object_unbind] *ERROR* Attempting to unbind > pinned buffer This error message was removed in HEAD https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=289109 and 10-STABLE https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=293857 -- Aleksandr Matveev From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 22 21:39:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB563AD992C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S26.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s26.hotmail.com [65.55.111.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DD7AEC0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP144 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S26.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:37:58 -0700 X-TMN: [E1VIiYG3JCpkBtQkib2LJHzyWwEr1BGD] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:37:50 -0400 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release In-Reply-To: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2016 21:37:57.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[19898480:01D18483] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:39:05 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:08:44 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee stated: > Be aware, though, that freebsd-update will become obsolete with the > 11.0-RELEASE anyway. All binary base system updates for 11.0 onward > will be distributed in a package format compatible with pkg(8). It > will still be possible to update from source, if you find you prefer > that in the end. I am not sure if I understand that correctly. Are you saying that I could use pkg(8) to update the system to whatever the final release of FreeBSD 11 is? -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 00:07:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F20799A4A8 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 00:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo.danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5652114C2 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 00:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo.danielisz@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1458691647; bh=Eo6YeSyQ4LCGRS/dzWCcKLMM5wutIL4k0jwzeB/bpec=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=RWNFT9V9RUrkpML92ayvMtcWNiNwNO4ErrZBZHyzf/zFH7L/JfuK/Bze5vEU0gNy2Xfgc7w0dWkTRev9yyTPxvgSBrs4MyfDDmiq81NLwsgGthFbTD+Ct8xU7XpjCibYLgiXaJMoM4jNQXtcV2uTp0gKpbER6pbMvW1JqJqlKGjsQeh5q2aUuTaoGN2ICeSjt26dC+md9UhWu7dg02cjRKky85eoYnWpFlOELJi+XGFKakR7SRhv+XreasKOHzadsoLVm4NXkt0HsuZNDoYPLBljT+j+IaTwekQVgqKnpGFJYhDDKOxuxidbq4ouEbvItyfBoqIRPXmunOM2vF4EZg== Received: from [98.139.170.178] by nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 00:07:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.226] by tm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 00:07:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 00:07:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 554939.32003.bm@omp1035.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: nrjWdGYVM1lewoQ8VUCP2kLSc77p2MTULcDZL9LfuXN.CT28SNvB_AhwIsbdhnt jHA53dlwgiCvaY4uMOupLiMLqTn3pyBjHuzPNSTUD1FC41pfolEGVK0DrsJgMPUNCiGzPVaNATHe OyICUJhQakvDwRDejgGoBaCNhSmegEse1UaIURZwL5rdG8fmpyLawqdhpIQHQWuNRg_9t28BtZw3 7gKAIYBINgVU.ls6RNQ7XK46fu2Mc_ydhyGg9QDQDBPo7UpcUZ62tFP_XSzx6T42f2FA6EeAJZFu i2YzyLYkKCoXGOOXFd6ERk7OFXKfLkjE6.CC0rxG5_DI1PkKZUd4W5f.TbITUfymd2FkzG_Xc5ST 2f.NMfldghFwqz7wEstvM6zxGAX3TfjLdnfjN._oGZS6kPRgwUdGRzfbkH9covfUDSZWa9KEoH1s a2pl5OFoS_HVUuF6WQpr7MU3fj7NbS3QCOIakbidipHC3T.c664Z8MBoTo4C3Xogf_EgtYO0vRcd rZTuhG4p1QYTPoLs3aJ_zuKrgqfI82wmQDOXjduorJJQi423CtY.PsrO6ggo- Received: by 76.13.26.109; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 00:07:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 00:07:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Reply-To: To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: openvpn issue MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 00:07:34 -0000 Hi all, I am trying to install openvpn to a FreeBSD server following=C2=A0this=C2= =A0tutorial.I've edited vars, I am using sh, and all the time I try to run = ./buil-ca I'm getting the following error: # pwd/usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa# uname -aFreeBSD do 10.2-RELEASE-p7 Fr= eeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p7# . varsNOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing = a rm -rf on /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys# ./build-ca=C2=A0 Please e= dit the vars script to reflect your configuration,=C2=A0 then source it wit= h "source ./vars".=C2=A0 Next, to start with a fresh PKI configuration and = to delete any=C2=A0 previous certificates and keys, run "./clean-all".=C2= =A0 Finally, you can run this tool (pkitool) to build certificates/keys. Any ideas? Thanks!Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 03:02:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C363EAC9BAE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) Received: from nm49-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm49-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.251]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F1811868 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixreader@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1458702028; bh=4hedc8etKxjGCYVKqDkwXd4TvlOqJUQefUNuA5qf0n0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=J8qkljAELpqz+meCS6S81F1i0+PK4k4N5IuUCV1CtgrdEC/WTl6Ld23dg97Zml2aKjztymh2mWKOfHOvkNZkAG0FtBoR4aehJgPS3Q1t5QCNrDvgmybODcIzmoAJ/ZL4ABVpXqeK0rttsqSPZz1U8Hw6f6qDp3X5uP5iAU26TKFuuI/An5soqIxpMyZ1l1bWkjN1f6iUsBSLUDP9y4wfXSZQRr3mSCwrZlUdPaPj1J8641+E0f8HoNeVGwgFxGR0K91dq28fSpytr3bcB8y+6VopGl8tzlaHD+6/ahWlKjbefDkjapLRdgxSj1Pvj517Nyi6FJIxXGctj0gdeM2vYA== Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm49.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 03:00:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.237] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 03:00:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 03:00:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 795439.15220.bm@omp1046.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: by 76.13.27.34; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:00:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:00:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Teng Zhang Reply-To: "unixreader@yahoo.com" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <1318373531.3863333.1458702026447.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <4460weh0ri.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4460weh0ri.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=9B=9E=E5=A4=8D=EF=BC=9ARe:_some_confusion_in_socket(2)?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:02:17 -0000 ok, i see that. That is to say, this kind of socket just refer to the netwo= rk layer protocol such as the arp,icmp,ip protocols rather than transport l= ayer protocols such as tcp protool. =20 =20 =E5=9C=A8 2016=E5=B9=B43=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=B8=89 =E6=97=B6= =E9=97=B4:1:37=EF=BC=8CLowell Gilbert =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A Teng Zhang via freebsd-questions writes: > hello, in socket(2), the following sentence:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0SOCK_RAW sockets > provide access to internal network protocols and interfaces.My > confusion is what are included in the range of "internal network > protocols and interfaces". Could you please tell me the answer or > where i can find relevant information. Raw sockets are nothing more than IP sockets without a transport protocol associated. Routing daemons and ping, for example, use raw sockets to directly control packet headers. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 03:12:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16E1AC9F16 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85291C43 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D7C1EAC9F15; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D772FAC9F14 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EBCB1C42 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AC3D7882; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:12:37 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458702756; x=1460517157; bh=WbalFCcPG CTGC0CH9RXaz7yMDwmnbQgJrDENMBv8X6o=; b=Ncnelct/YZ5r6GVMhqtzT+Rz9 3qNfxpPXjWZGT1puINRcjUgPJh+ImDZakDY7elh9JahXZihlk+x15SZUI66sYUe5 X34zbNAYo2mFSe2gEv2mY5KskAYy1PPp0gRnmhJE12Wf9Q5HMsFA4nqRv6Kk4QZ3 nZMcM9P5vVRz6joNrU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id jLpONSZ52dYf; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:12:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B1FCD7881; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:12:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2N3CYig016410; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:12:34 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <19099.128.135.52.6.1458655269.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> (galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:12:33 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:12:41 -0000 Valeri, > Now, think about your users whose files, with potentially > confidential information will be accessible to proprietary code created > by/for one or the other intelligence agency (I don't distinguish here KGB, > CIA, MI-6, Siguranza,...) The files are accessible to anti-virus code created by a private company. So what? Do you really think they will scan the files to change their contents? - they will not be able to report any finding, because I have a tight policy on the mail server. - they will not be able to change the files because I run the anti-virus from amavis, amavis provides a copy of the files for virus checking and all cares about is a return status saying clean or infected, the files that have been checked are discarded. So, they can be KGB or whatever, as long as they do the job... Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 04:35:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6192FAB40B7 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 04:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com (mail-io0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A7781A8D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 04:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f180.google.com with SMTP id o5so15685335iod.2 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:35:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=hNH6BWfw718qSqtc8SoLWFpWxMNqkKILt2hVIZZHbRc=; b=UjcfVdMtUkhgwJ3yROL3LrYQ+HsOxba8cRtyBhFLCFjYatDTzO95Y1oB8vSnV6gyfi chuaPUAWpup5/igVf0pHIi6dszr29/er2S3gU7tiCBh/K11qvcmpcgPchfSRUkesPJ/t eY3aybU9eb+kAg0+QjJQZ3zu1n70ZKkHrPfeXh9aJGB+4ZDzXeK8XM++e5mjAY24HMk+ qeQodbkZ3Qbojwq/RFhQNdpLMpvGkTQNr66JA2roRKBz9A7nfe1JUOzUFmugTUrdMYI2 /q4A/xtCx0tNKi/bMLqAtA326TvMRNUwvjBeMqxMPM43b1FFYELGc8m2+auhnNPQePm2 bOFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI0cX92hnktMkPfOsNjrmu6eJOXBX99N7KhkWA0HfjK4luiYZAJ2l9i+C97PgLkvA== X-Received: by 10.107.7.20 with SMTP id 20mr196248ioh.181.1458688307186; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (63-231-156-13.mpls.qwest.net. [63.231.156.13]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r73sm84584ioe.5.2016.03.22.16.11.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:11:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Carmel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:11:58 -0500 Message-ID: <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 04:35:58 -0000 Carmel writes: > Are you saying that I could use pkg(8) to update the system to > whatever the final release of FreeBSD 11 is? Development branches *must be updated from source.* Once you've completely updated your system to 11.0-RELEASE from source you can perform binary updates. But 10.3 is the last version to use freebsd-update anyway. I was just making note of that---you can't use freebsd-update to move to or from a development branch, but even if you could in the past you wouldn't now, because it will no longer be available from 11.0 onward. pkg(8) will be used instead, and still only from a numbered -RELEASE. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 05:14:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABE4AB4782 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 05:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BAD17D9 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 05:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2016 15:36:43 +1030 X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from predator-ii.buffyverse (predator-ii.buffyverse [172.17.17.136]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u2N56W3c054035; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:36:32 +1030 (ACDT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Message-ID: <1458709592.1578.10.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Subject: Re: openvpn issue From: Wayne Sierke To: laszlo.danielisz@yahoo.com, FreeBSD Questions Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:36:32 +1030 In-Reply-To: <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws [172.17.17.142]); Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:36:32 +1030 (ACDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 on 172.17.17.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.004000(2014-02-07) X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.9 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 05:14:05 -0000 On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 00:07 +0000, laszlo.danielisz--- via freebsd- questions wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to install openvpn to a FreeBSD server > following this tutorial.I've edited vars, I am using sh, and all the > time I try to run ./buil-ca I'm getting the following errHior: > # pwd > /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa > # uname -a > FreeBSD do 10.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p7 > # . vars > NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on > /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys > # ./build-ca >   Please edit the vars script to reflect your configuration,  then > source it with "source ./vars".  Next, to start with a fresh PKI > configuration and to delete any  previous certificates and keys, run > "./clean-all".  Finally, you can run this tool (pkitool) to build > certificates/keys. > > Any ideas? > Thanks!Laszlo Hi Laszlo, Does the 'keys' dir exist, at /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys ? The main easy-rsa script (pkitool) tests for the existence of that directory, although - somewhat confusingly - not before it issues that other warning message! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 06:03:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E81AB4F84 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6241670 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1B500AB4F83; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ABEAB4F82 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98218166F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2016 16:32:24 +1030 X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from predator-ii.buffyverse (predator-ii.buffyverse [172.17.17.136]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u2N61sTY054917; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:31:54 +1030 (ACDT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Message-ID: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: Wayne Sierke To: krad , Olivier Nicole Cc: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:31:54 +1030 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws [172.17.17.142]); Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:31:55 +1030 (ACDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 on 172.17.17.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.004000(2014-02-07) X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.9 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:03:41 -0000 On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:07 +0000, krad wrote: > Other than that clamav > is good enough. I'm curious as to whether that's an objective or subjective view? I've got clam-av set up on a couple of mail boxes scanning incoming messages and find a worrying amount of viral content still gets through. Even after submitting false-negative reports, manual tests conducted (days!) later have failed to detect them. To be fair, some of that also fails to be detected initially by commercial AV scanners on MS Windows. However in one instance, for example, one AV provider had an update deployed and distributed less than two hours after they were notified. I've submitted suspect attachments to the Virus-Total web site to find that it was already submitted previously, sometimes long ago, and clam- av is listed with a negative detection result. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 06:57:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40912AD8126 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A95361E3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u2N6vkNd050950 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:57:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua u2N6vkNd050950 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2N6vjpY050949; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:57:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:57:45 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Peter Holm Cc: Nick Evans , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 750 Panic Unmounting During TRIM Message-ID: <20160323065745.GV1741@kib.kiev.ua> References: <20160322125935.6be25e20@pleiades.nextvenue.com> <20160322202520.GA32179@x2.osted.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160322202520.GA32179@x2.osted.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:57:52 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 09:25:20PM +0100, Peter Holm wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Nick Evans wrote: > > > > panic: losing buffer 1 > > cpuid = 2 This one is interesting. > > I see a different panic with this scenario: > panic: Lock Per-Filesystem Softdep Lock not exclusively locked @ ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:1950 > > https://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/trim7.txt This issue should be fixed by the following patch. diff --git a/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c b/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c index 04ea39c..bedc8e1 100644 --- a/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c +++ b/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c @@ -1937,9 +1937,9 @@ softdep_waitidle(struct mount *mp, int flags __unused) vn_lock(devvp, LK_EXCLUSIVE | LK_RETRY); error = VOP_FSYNC(devvp, MNT_WAIT, td); VOP_UNLOCK(devvp, 0); + ACQUIRE_LOCK(ump); if (error != 0) break; - ACQUIRE_LOCK(ump); } ump->softdep_req = 0; if (i == SU_WAITIDLE_RETRIES && error == 0 && ump->softdep_deps != 0) { From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 08:14:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1519ADA53C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x22a.google.com (mail-lb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71E851CB6 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lb0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id bc4so4796435lbc.2 for ; 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Wed, 23 Mar 2016 01:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.40.134 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 01:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.40.134 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 01:14:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1458709592.1578.10.camel@au.dyndns.ws> References: <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1458709592.1578.10.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:14:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: openvpn issue From: Shamim Shahriar To: Wayne Sierke Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, laszlo.danielisz@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:14:13 -0000 Also not sure you have done this, but after you have edited vars, before running build-ca in your sh shell you need to do a . .vars (that is dot space dot vars), then run build-ca. Hope this helps On 23 Mar 2016 5:14 am, "Wayne Sierke" wrote: > On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 00:07 +0000, laszlo.danielisz--- via freebsd- > questions wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am trying to install openvpn to a FreeBSD server > > following this tutorial.I've edited vars, I am using sh, and all the > > time I try to run ./buil-ca I'm getting the following errHior: > > # pwd > > /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD do 10.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p7 > > # . vars > > NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on > > /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys > > # ./build-ca > > Please edit the vars script to reflect your configuration, then > > source it with "source ./vars". Next, to start with a fresh PKI > > configuration and to delete any previous certificates and keys, run > > "./clean-all". 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 09:54:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270A399AD5A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pho@holm.cc) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07EED1CCE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pho@holm.cc) Received: from x2.osted.lan (87-58-223-204-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net [87.58.223.204]) by relay01.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC752D00A01; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 05:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from x2.osted.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u2N9rx86069903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:53:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pho@x2.osted.lan) Received: (from pho@localhost) by x2.osted.lan (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u2N9rwCJ069902; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:53:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pho) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:53:58 +0100 From: Peter Holm To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: Nick Evans , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 750 Panic Unmounting During TRIM Message-ID: <20160323095358.GA63874@x2.osted.lan> References: <20160322125935.6be25e20@pleiades.nextvenue.com> <20160322202520.GA32179@x2.osted.lan> <20160323065745.GV1741@kib.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160323065745.GV1741@kib.kiev.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:54:04 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 08:57:45AM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 09:25:20PM +0100, Peter Holm wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Nick Evans wrote: > > > > > > panic: losing buffer 1 > > > cpuid = 2 > This one is interesting. > > > > > I see a different panic with this scenario: > > panic: Lock Per-Filesystem Softdep Lock not exclusively locked @ ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:1950 > > > > https://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/trim7.txt > This issue should be fixed by the following patch. > > diff --git a/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c b/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c > index 04ea39c..bedc8e1 100644 > --- a/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c Yes, this patch fixes the "Per-Filesystem Softdep Lock" panic. Still trying to reproduce the "loosing buffer" panic. - Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 10:16:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23B7AB437C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B8819C5 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CE575AB437B; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF92AB437A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6763819C4 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id l68so188532986wml.0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:16:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=ebqfcHrsHsOXzUB0EZUkiUkSbLBrt72jM4U40YeD2X4=; b=zLBGRcrEl9KBiBtBzWX9uOUDyIGp2jMerVUikDGMBNtw97eVwND4qw5mnNi46z+ot3 aJ5Ywd8bnRkpkeuwo7fkxUDqEC2tegHG6pK53xQBElH+s/H5XCy9P29Q4aDPBVwiOZ5+ 00i7Kok+fDbjb/DlHncsluFEP8BMrSNBwrci5N7ViX3aBGyS6aYPKmxf+NC19C6OLW9c 6XgDg+Dq4tzEIxmA+U+8PQxkuMnv8wquymcP6B1jUXThIMV/PTP2H1K4dTgzGP+amJyE yg5tgLMksD4zcnXZ283TWcDE5IUIipChk0kSwTJDOD5sX/34EVzJDnDGObmW+nhJwz4a Nj2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=ebqfcHrsHsOXzUB0EZUkiUkSbLBrt72jM4U40YeD2X4=; b=PWOVSk8Zti3hIUBeUkQub2cVbLGHRqnsyIOkojuYJhPTq9zzi2kVOO6IEbHw6ocezz qTxO1ud/ESNwOqJntjgawjM0pI516ufPKn1w2YdvjsQ32deL2XeyGmCGmFNgd2NJqD8u IXQHlfHadPxTTJmiJazEx3pNw2POlyJ6VTHD067XYnWhmAtJMAfZL3hzytxV0Xiquikg vXCbKZgHaAk/lwPyRMftFe0qGLUOOnNrPSwbdhvs0JFB2O3wqhxwIiN92rLX1N6e+Gje GzAmZyCYPwOX6JfR93ztse2FMa63dyTh6PkSrmfe9SmVnhZmHFLO/axO51ZKGL4L3GQv e9rA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJILZx8cGzXp6cVsSYpTvAxFd0/A0W93DPgO2yMfbiAt1PUs0naVmAZCRgbRiF2d36mKYrwvwv5DA/P3dA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.54.19 with SMTP id d19mr25651666wma.30.1458728186721; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.68 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 03:16:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: krad To: Wayne Sierke Cc: Olivier Nicole , questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:30 -0000 I terms of mail you are not limited to unix bases solutions. Exim for example as the ability to pass the mail to a host:port for scanning. That means you are not limited via os and therefore av vendor. On 23 March 2016 at 06:01, Wayne Sierke wrote: > On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:07 +0000, krad wrote: > > > Other than that clamav > > is good enough. > > I'm curious as to whether that's an objective or subjective view? > > I've got clam-av set up on a couple of mail boxes scanning incoming > messages and find a worrying amount of viral content still gets > through. Even after submitting false-negative reports, manual tests > conducted (days!) later have failed to detect them. > > To be fair, some of that also fails to be detected initially by > commercial AV scanners on MS Windows. However in one instance, for > example, one AV provider had an update deployed and distributed less > than two hours after they were notified. > > I've submitted suspect attachments to the Virus-Total web site to find > that it was already submitted previously, sometimes long ago, and clam- > av is listed with a negative detection result. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 10:42:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95715AB4A8C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm8-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm8-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0153E1660 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1458729572; bh=ePfcTeQzlC29EXKRMJ0aPCTF7xaj2Wjvzb3S/uT89Hg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=uAP3AXoebLmCzPw2I9InDop2hYiH0k0RikXp3afkOk+7J7vkIWpCSgnQc+6Oc9qdhXRvfv97OMQAjMCk/bd1iwTUx2+5l9KbIUqP0Or7mRIMO9fRIMq2vE5DpCT7z8HPPMrhwALz2vCvNUu1WQFR5dKaJ02062WuZ6UVs83rAty7/TCbMYnKo6VE9Dk2/8Tx1zy6+d3dlIhQRvaa8LnpI0YMOk8Eeve7+dDC2OSlb8HTrDZthvy/M2rI97ePWE6GbYKBHrn7lm4SSXH6JGFARCX+tD2uHerYaYhyjVkW3lC1rNh0cbg/Gg4oqTFgt89tAEPBDs2valn0swE9524Uug== Received: from [212.82.98.56] by nm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 10:39:32 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.66] by tm9.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 10:39:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2016 10:39:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 677541.49499.bm@smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jZkgtBUVM1lhzE7KhtF4B.EI3wlSfAbo3ig08s0LXb5mHGm Sd9jEjtG2l_VZpX4niU4NzbZMSQyFz6DpsJwkFGrfe6nY01vJum3q.BhdSFV Id68pK0fV5xQ7ux72o8oWZDb6VhxJGFs41kmIgA3HVcvTXBfJSHA1ZAuwtsw SEduQPSZejfPzdQrGDaT3A_mkSuK.NR_DtbsmkYUbL2Kyx56do5XBIWM5_xf rLRKFrYvqEb2KvSWXxz1NH_UOfzka_pTQdU6.l9hkPBLrmLechD2JQlZbvsT x04drsefGDi14Uq5ya_ka6ztr1w_2cbV_CIhtli7dZ2D3r8U7PJaxazZWYmB T8wwQCJhBS2oKlh2HdCWNDnXZnV3Aa5g24_oRObLJ6pv9aWGS4WvWSmZEKS0 mzzoUA0U_IGlziK4yfE56srKNPjeM6UfUaYTv_xSJfBzDDCj9dfQhhc3QrO1 IpVld7xoVAHYSwLXH5lhCX6qjY2b2s_LLxxdaVt6FzdmvbozLCFM1RHTVHWs opjeyXltpKQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:39:44 +0100 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD Message-Id: <20160323113944.310e07bfa682e06db5cc87c9@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:42:32 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:38:25 +0700 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > What anti-virus are you using with FreeBSD? beside ClamAV that is. > > I had been using Kaspersky for years, but they are withdrawing their > support for FreeBSD, so i will not renew my license in October. > > So I need a replacement, that has a daemonised version. You can use a VM with virtualbox with Linux/Windows. Use vmdktool or makefs -t cd9660 to create a vmdk file or iso file and mount it on VM. The AV software will analyze it. You can have multiple VMs each one with different AV software and mount/umount the disk. Note here that iso images are read only and perhaps you could mount it on several VM simultaneously. > Best regards, > > Olivier > -- --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 11:46:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA514AD80BB for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05191A76 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BBEBEAD80B7; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8B9AD80B6 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7207A1A75 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F261D7882 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:46:09 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458733568; x=1460547969; bh=DbC/b271g AsUcR50Ad1cGitcQu+pZJa4P5Xj3favE24=; b=ZK5W1ponoXL9nic45oVbCaA/P cXekoJJ6UFdSOtru+rCwDQfl/G6xoI8B0bY/9Ew9z34c0oq2Nljl/zgrWDTQfmKL nQB5EMMjWzAGRVe5xaHNJMMTbaLMFiAeglM9tkkPMEVRt7xKpKNKIGMotou8Sm2U ckNW+FHa9QSgQaulwk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Po0hIggqypqz for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:46:08 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76231D7881 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:46:08 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2NBk792019181; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:46:07 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: (message from krad on Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:16:26 +0000) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:46:06 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:46:18 -0000 True, > I terms of mail you are not limited to unix bases solutions. Exim for > example as the ability to pass the mail to a host:port for scanning. That > means you are not limited via os and therefore av vendor. And Amavis can do that too. But I would prefer to avoid that because: - it's one more system to manage, update, etc. Even more, a different system. - sending the mail body through the net is less efficient than sending it through a Unix socket (if the AV is on the same machine). best regards, Olivier > On 23 March 2016 at 06:01, Wayne Sierke wrote: > >> On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:07 +0000, krad wrote: >> >> > Other than that clamav >> > is good enough. >> >> I'm curious as to whether that's an objective or subjective view? >> >> I've got clam-av set up on a couple of mail boxes scanning incoming >> messages and find a worrying amount of viral content still gets >> through. Even after submitting false-negative reports, manual tests >> conducted (days!) later have failed to detect them. >> >> To be fair, some of that also fails to be detected initially by >> commercial AV scanners on MS Windows. However in one instance, for >> example, one AV provider had an update deployed and distributed less >> than two hours after they were notified. >> >> I've submitted suspect attachments to the Virus-Total web site to find >> that it was already submitted previously, sometimes long ago, and clam- >> av is listed with a negative detection result. >> >> > > [2:text/html Show] > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 12:14:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892E7ADA36D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@i-pi.pl) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2031D87 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@i-pi.pl) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6AC27ADA36C; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A619ADA36B for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@i-pi.pl) Received: from mx1.i-pi.pl (mx2.security.edu.pl [91.197.89.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D43D1D86 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@i-pi.pl) Received: from mx1.i-pi.pl (mx2.security.edu.pl [192.168.34.10]) by mx1.i-pi.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F4EAD79; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:06:18 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=i-pi.pl; s=dkim; t=1458734778; bh=aFW4eaBijv/mW8XO8m2cASUsOvtZdlej5The7NZzovM=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Date:To; b=TEAMaGUN6xfQ+DQvx11Ur06mTHeIm3LB5MmEFWV5sPcI01qx82lqwRyG0Dnv5l80O vbBVkujFR1nzH95kIEFmoU32JsR15OZG2kXEhsjAG0p4QF+9lZxw0dCkNJvOEbIWce kA+coQw2ogkuvZUhY1XS5rA9de7E18CbC8kkZ2dc= Received: from [10.122.192.128] (user-94-254-243-172.play-internet.pl [94.254.243.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.i-pi.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CAE00AD78; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:06:17 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=i-pi.pl; s=dkim; t=1458734778; bh=aFW4eaBijv/mW8XO8m2cASUsOvtZdlej5The7NZzovM=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Date:To; b=TEAMaGUN6xfQ+DQvx11Ur06mTHeIm3LB5MmEFWV5sPcI01qx82lqwRyG0Dnv5l80O vbBVkujFR1nzH95kIEFmoU32JsR15OZG2kXEhsjAG0p4QF+9lZxw0dCkNJvOEbIWce kA+coQw2ogkuvZUhY1XS5rA9de7E18CbC8kkZ2dc= In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: Adrian Huryn Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:06:10 +0100 To: Olivier Nicole ,questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2ED5E17B-6CD1-4868-88C3-157E6B4EC0DF@i-pi.pl> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:14:07 -0000 Hello. Did you gry dr.Web AV for FreeBSD? Regards. Dnia 23 marca 2016 12:46:06 CET, Olivier Nicole napisał(a): >True, > >> I terms of mail you are not limited to unix bases solutions. Exim for >> example as the ability to pass the mail to a host:port for scanning. >That >> means you are not limited via os and therefore av vendor. > >And Amavis can do that too. But I would prefer to avoid that because: > >- it's one more system to manage, update, etc. Even more, a different > system. > >- sending the mail body through the net is less efficient than sending > it through a Unix socket (if the AV is on the same machine). > >best regards, > >Olivier > >> On 23 March 2016 at 06:01, Wayne Sierke wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:07 +0000, krad wrote: >>> >>> > Other than that clamav >>> > is good enough. >>> >>> I'm curious as to whether that's an objective or subjective view? >>> >>> I've got clam-av set up on a couple of mail boxes scanning incoming >>> messages and find a worrying amount of viral content still gets >>> through. Even after submitting false-negative reports, manual tests >>> conducted (days!) later have failed to detect them. >>> >>> To be fair, some of that also fails to be detected initially by >>> commercial AV scanners on MS Windows. However in one instance, for >>> example, one AV provider had an update deployed and distributed less >>> than two hours after they were notified. >>> >>> I've submitted suspect attachments to the Virus-Total web site to >find >>> that it was already submitted previously, sometimes long ago, and >clam- >>> av is listed with a negative detection result. >>> >>> >> >> [2:text/html Show] >> > >-- >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 15:06:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2203DADAB37 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from mailbox.talkpoint.com (mailbox.talkpoint.com [204.141.10.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84701F9C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.talkpoint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7CAF66003; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:06:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at talkpoint.com Received: from mailbox.talkpoint.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailbox.talkpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Ajl-xYNp8tR; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pleiades.nextvenue.com (pleiades.talkpoint.com [204.141.15.194]) by mailbox.talkpoint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BED8F66001; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:06:38 -0400 From: Nick Evans To: Peter Holm Cc: Konstantin Belousov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 750 Panic Unmounting During TRIM Message-ID: <20160323110638.60913e18@pleiades.nextvenue.com> In-Reply-To: <20160323095358.GA63874@x2.osted.lan> References: <20160322125935.6be25e20@pleiades.nextvenue.com> <20160322202520.GA32179@x2.osted.lan> <20160323065745.GV1741@kib.kiev.ua> <20160323095358.GA63874@x2.osted.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:06:41 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:53:58 +0100 Peter Holm wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 08:57:45AM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 09:25:20PM +0100, Peter Holm wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Nick Evans wrote: > > > > > > > > panic: losing buffer 1 > > > > cpuid = 2 > > This one is interesting. > > > > > > > > I see a different panic with this scenario: > > > panic: Lock Per-Filesystem Softdep Lock not exclusively locked @ ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:1950 > > > > > > https://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/trim7.txt > > This issue should be fixed by the following patch. > > > > diff --git a/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c b/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c > > index 04ea39c..bedc8e1 100644 > > --- a/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c > > Yes, this patch fixes the "Per-Filesystem Softdep Lock" panic. > Still trying to reproduce the "loosing buffer" panic. > > - Peter If you have a patch you're unsure of I can test it at will on this box. Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 16:02:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF9DADB74A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6641A99 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 99C8DADB749; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9972AADB748 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FE31A98 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5327DCB8C9D; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:02:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:02:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:02:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Wayne Sierke" Cc: "krad" , "Olivier Nicole" , questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:02:39 -0000 On Wed, March 23, 2016 1:01 am, Wayne Sierke wrote: > On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:07 +0000, krad wrote: > >> Other than that clamav >> is good enough. > > I'm curious as to whether that's an objective or subjective view? > > I've got clam-av set up on a couple of mail boxes scanning incoming > messages and find a worrying amount of viral content still gets > through. Even after submitting false-negative reports, manual tests > conducted (days!) later have failed to detect them. > > To be fair, some of that also fails to be detected initially by > commercial AV scanners on MS Windows. However in one instance, for > example, one AV provider had an update deployed and distributed less > than two hours after they were notified. > > I've submitted suspect attachments to the Virus-Total web site to find > that it was already submitted previously, sometimes long ago, and clam- > av is listed with a negative detection result. > Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. Second, the very existence of Windows viruses is based on architecture flaws of MS Windows system IMHO. Of course, most of us have to use and maintain that system in a course of fulfilling our job duties; that can not prevent us from having some attitude. Based on which I would discourage running for your Unix/Linux mail server virus scanning software on Windows machine. I would to my best ability avoid running any services at all on MS Windows. This one - avoid using Windows for scanning what Windows is vulnerable to - is yet another reason in addition to a need of maintaining too many systems. Just my $0.02 Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 16:32:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53F4ADBC08 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9A41883 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8EAA5ADBC07; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C020ADBC06 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3578D1880 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [198.71.6.89]) by mail2.nber.org (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u2NGViV0082385 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:31:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:31:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Valeri Galtsev cc: Wayne Sierke , Olivier Nicole , questions@freebsd.org, krad Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LRH 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, disabled by settings X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: not scanned X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2016/03/21 09:45:52 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.721, bases: 2016/03/23 09:07:00 #7319446 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:32:09 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2016, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage > too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some > viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) > > First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In > fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You > only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too > harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: > remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. > Is there a package out there that would block all email messages with binary executable content? I understand that pdf and word files may contain executable code - the package would have to be able to distinguish such files with executable code and those without. (Is that possible)? For us, that would be a satisfactory substitute for Kaspersky, perhaps even a superior one. daniel feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 16:59:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66773ADB0FD for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D2814EA for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 40312ADB0FC; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCC6ADB0FB for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x22d.google.com (mail-lf0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B139614E8 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id d82so16214907lfe.3 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:59:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=8m2UXMvu/Zm9bDtL9beUxP4DIJrgCyHqqdlrgBUM2Wc=; b=IWMcH9TS5JhnFubrPGPiukkelpedXuXO7t6VZhMqef/JBoRiUTWi6nMN4dhON9uSFY FuxNt9os5c0iC3/5qVijXvnz5Y1MkL6vHD0C1klw44+JJiEKrfo07WDFJyvkJMdQ6KgC B+ozP5AUW+nyFXGJoC23mD3mB6v4ZybLpbwolApZX69GjJK/nCKdVYa8PX5RiCi59d8c Loi75rHePyPx/2PSt3k8icxoBfvgmIzDHVwvgNzLR/gw5ou2zB8SbNEWg1gQGEaQdX+Z tUHsxECgMB68nDjUZ4INr2GP3rN7csOCFQI7Gth8Q081mjdVRmtG+Y/glNGstipeuuAa x28g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=8m2UXMvu/Zm9bDtL9beUxP4DIJrgCyHqqdlrgBUM2Wc=; b=NvJ6H98ITL//t6oWm4CmD2x+7YzbAehknHUyc+5SFLMy8+2ahmA3i9lWrvHt1gvpgu cAT83+cdmg9E1OuJigzhL4yi9Q3PJk+YEggFZ52voH4Yz/6n6XMYh+t7Ps0H74knXatR gTOBnomPaReMX3VH4DgGGc+SBarHgLWPsWSlatTwBM+IGFMawaPQQoxKCBNiWj2S4slB pYsjgzdSLzioxlkSIUViWbov5nN19wLhjDHuEK+oNPXDZHyz8SSJkK1cdMkaeiLEEhHk noysrvOp69Pdz5trqv+kPvLHtKJfsbenVWMoGgswMkEJ3py4WlMRg4bYGOYF3VDIzQGM vepg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJCZdJwRVqdAM9uVvRdkpLXhGAmBQtBITRPTP9dHrZ0QeabrCa77D2+HdIEA3J32x7VKIGxm5rbOmDAzA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.41.212 with SMTP id p203mr1385814lfp.48.1458752357782; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.144.130 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:59:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:59:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: William Dudley To: Daniel Feenberg Cc: Valeri Galtsev , krad , Olivier Nicole , questions@freebsd.org, Wayne Sierke X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:01:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:59:20 -0000 demime will remove attachments. I don't know if it can be configured to remove only certain kinds. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > >> Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage >> too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some >> viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) >> >> First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In >> fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You >> only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too >> harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: >> remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. >> >> > Is there a package out there that would block all email messages with > binary executable content? I understand that pdf and word files may contain > executable code - the package would have to be able to distinguish such > files with executable code and those without. (Is that possible)? > > For us, that would be a satisfactory substitute for Kaspersky, perhaps > even a superior one. > > daniel feenberg > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 17:02:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569DDADB2CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D591C186A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from host-4-75.office.adestra.com (vpn-1.adestra.com [46.236.37.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 813D9E700 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/813D9E700; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:02:26 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XqUXa3vlmG9RiPmI43iUINWdNUjRshse4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:02:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XqUXa3vlmG9RiPmI43iUINWdNUjRshse4 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2IaAQDaID2iq2T5AXAnmqre65PrJ1pJji" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: --2IaAQDaID2iq2T5AXAnmqre65PrJ1pJji Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/03/23 16:31, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > Is there a package out there that would block all email messages with > binary executable content? I understand that pdf and word files may > contain executable code - the package would have to be able to > distinguish such files with executable code and those without. (Is that= > possible)? It is not possible a priori to strip out any file belonging to some arbitrary application which implements some sort of embedded macro language, let alone tell if any such file actually contains any executable bits. The best you can do is recognise commonly used file formats where embedded code is possible, and strip those out. Any reasonable MTA should be able to do that for you, although it may take some rather more advanced configuration than is usually necessary. This is essentially the approach taken on these (FreeBSD) mailing lists, except here, it's reversed: all attachements are removed, except for a certain number of known-harmless ones, like PGP-Mime signatures or some simple text formats. If you're specifically concerned about Phishing emails, rather than, say 'Spear Phishing' (ie. individually tailored messages) then your best bet is something like Vipul's Razor or DCC which are services that distribute checksums of known spam messages -- the concept being that spammers send out a large number of pretty much identical messages and it is highly likely that someone else has received the spam and reported it before it hits your mail server. Cheers, Matthew --2IaAQDaID2iq2T5AXAnmqre65PrJ1pJji-- --XqUXa3vlmG9RiPmI43iUINWdNUjRshse4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW8swpXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTn4EcP/0d41VzJF0PH/Yp2JElbyEvx c2Zf3Hh3IVnLaItoE1ZhHZx3Q9pShd3ny9yRm3yU7Q2j4ZB5bCYTZXeagN1gkA75 QaYa4en0srqzMGm17TsKap+BDzfChTZJNgK4xEXCaQ/cAwoSUakC/a7NYjVR0PNI zWFspOxFPO8ZTq9TAWGosjVMg/NjuRAmr7G1VgprEGmVqJLPnLbMpYodlWdLLl3P 4gD/fviY6NilkaD9XSk+QcBLQYGPeQ42SexUjsnsU7zMbgF8745LBMIKF1D6BLxj 6f1h+li1EnuXjO+ZFWBiOao5gNfZxOA1HssidFL9EU+ou/HUXQyhyw49MCCPvOVd lzTjF8+9xOyLNqS3JaL6Z9yA8Gdxy3wPipyYzE5GdwiuG21KIgfOS4OQRSD/rOO5 uhgN2rsgxJygM7NuYp4r0IwfQ7ciuC3bFQqWQY4syO5SsSL50vuHMhzC4qHqFW5e KnAuPlxZSv2avSWwFl9E03pww3G9O5BfRkoQgV/W9/M0CRW88btQjtez+lKZJQ4i 6MZKCXiJw+FkIyZGBn+Wm9fQFcq0lmkPpVTeZoXrCNxL8y4EJw1cvctttFsDreFj qKOPy5RKA4DBv43b6WwslO95vr3JGy6Mg8JfQfEIN8oD6FjOJnwDBtowlo17dKcG coNKy6rtiUBeijdx+rG6 =JVOF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XqUXa3vlmG9RiPmI43iUINWdNUjRshse4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 17:08:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6238ADB451 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B731AB2 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A059AADB450; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF19ADB44F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C141AB1 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 2B30FCB8CB3; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48414.128.135.52.6.1458752888.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Olivier Nicole" Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:08:09 -0000 On Tue, March 22, 2016 10:12 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Valeri, > >> Now, think about your users whose files, with potentially >> confidential information will be accessible to proprietary code created >> by/for one or the other intelligence agency (I don't distinguish here >> KGB, >> CIA, MI-6, Siguranza,...) > > The files are accessible to anti-virus code created by a private > company. So what? > > Do you really think they will scan the files to change their contents? > > - they will not be able to report any finding, because I have a tight > policy on the mail server. > > - they will not be able to change the files because I run the anti-virus > from amavis, amavis provides a copy of the files for virus checking > and all cares about is a return status saying clean or infected, the > files that have been checked are discarded. > > So, they can be KGB or whatever, as long as they do the job... Oh, well, I didn't mean to be harsh on you on account of using Kasperski stuff, so sorry if it came out that way. However, to scan something with _that_ antivirus, you have to run their binary code on one of your machines, right? Of course, one can feel awfully smart (what!, say, I'm running some code on some system that does nothing else but that code, and has no way to talk to anything apart from getting what to scan and returning scanned...). I myself to the contrary prefer to consider myself stupid when security of my boxes and privacy of my users are concerned. So stupid that I can easily be outsmarted by any of CIA, KGB, MI-6 and alike. Which definitely is 100% true, they easily will outsmart me having all their resources. So I just try to keep away from anything that potentially could have been touched by their hands. That's the only thing I tried to say, and apparently failed ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 17:11:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FA3ADB5DA for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D541D3F; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 327FCCB8CB4; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <50432.128.135.52.6.1458753102.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Matthew Seaman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:11:43 -0000 On Wed, March 23, 2016 12:02 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2016/03/23 16:31, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >> Is there a package out there that would block all email messages with >> binary executable content? I understand that pdf and word files may >> contain executable code - the package would have to be able to >> distinguish such files with executable code and those without. (Is that >> possible)? > > It is not possible a priori to strip out any file belonging to some > arbitrary application which implements some sort of embedded macro > language, let alone tell if any such file actually contains any > executable bits. The best you can do is recognise commonly used file > formats where embedded code is possible, and strip those out. > > Any reasonable MTA should be able to do that for you, although it may > take some rather more advanced configuration than is usually necessary. > > This is essentially the approach taken on these (FreeBSD) mailing lists, > except here, it's reversed: all attachements are removed, except for a > certain number of known-harmless ones, like PGP-Mime signatures or some > simple text formats. Brilliant! As opposed to flawed anti-virus logic! > > If you're specifically concerned about Phishing emails, rather than, say > 'Spear Phishing' (ie. individually tailored messages) then your best bet > is something like Vipul's Razor or DCC which are services that > distribute checksums of known spam messages -- the concept being that > spammers send out a large number of pretty much identical messages and > it is highly likely that someone else has received the spam and reported > it before it hits your mail server. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 18:03:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A74ADBCCF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [174.136.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90A1713CC for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@tysdomain.com) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22B2087839 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:03:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pARRbbxDJcV0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.21.96.50] (c-24-147-10-153.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.147.10.153]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10B5820877BA for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Subject: no such geom: ada1 Message-ID: <56F2DA76.6050908@tysdomain.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:03:34 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:03:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I have 5 drives in this system, ada0 through ada4. One of my drives stopped working in my ZFS pool after a FreeBSd reinstall. I exported the pool, deleted partitions on the drive and am now trying to add the partitions again. I am having no luck however. When I attempt to ad I get the error in the subject line. The command I am using is: gpart add -t freebsd-zfs ada1 Any ideas would be great. Thanks, - -- Take care, Ty Twitter: @sorressean Web: https://tysdomain.com Pubkey: https://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJW8tp2AAoJEAdP60+BYxejD3UH/18HyUlQ4NbIT1jZe64OrII4 t98RZ+YfYgFPaMLNSINGMdKse17DQ1F46ui3XJ/+4AdZ4COVmoQH+jyf5vgnYTjK jqetear/SEzFJyPBmn076UihybTEz0gVvDnFaWl4GRyxiAjF915KeoTzN88wN9TR aQWJQQskhC3vSOiAD6qqtWzUBncxOIN6cAKylMYzlgjjcWyM2BHIkcP7CunlnLyh 2YJm02vsW8/6smMo1WgYpshKtZQREwVA05sPdVcn/cVQNob8lfnXSZnHtKdTxkxJ Clf3u7Hw+fCKtM2bXKK32cF8G/zZ+QpHFagIK2R9FO0TB2/PI5aXf9gAYdmOjAA= =maFY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 19:13:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1219ADBB38 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cs@innolan.net) Received: from midnight.innolan.net (ntp1.innolan.net [90.184.222.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B612915EC for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cs@innolan.net) Received: from [192.168.10.75] (unknown [192.168.10.75]) by midnight.innolan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CDE202F5E; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:08:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: openvpn issue References: <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2093743171.3529179.1458691646834.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1458709592.1578.10.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: laszlo.danielisz@yahoo.com From: Carsten Message-ID: <56F2E99C.7060209@innolan.net> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:08:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:13:52 -0000 Use bash. Then the whole easy-rsa package works correctly. On 03/23/2016 09:14 AM, Shamim Shahriar wrote: > Also not sure you have done this, but after you have edited vars, before > running build-ca in your sh shell you need to do a . .vars (that is dot > space dot vars), then run build-ca. > > Hope this helps > On 23 Mar 2016 5:14 am, "Wayne Sierke" wrote: > >> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 00:07 +0000, laszlo.danielisz--- via freebsd- >> questions wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I am trying to install openvpn to a FreeBSD server >>> following this tutorial.I've edited vars, I am using sh, and all the >>> time I try to run ./buil-ca I'm getting the following errHior: >>> # pwd >>> /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa >>> # uname -a >>> FreeBSD do 10.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p7 >>> # . vars >>> NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on >>> /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys >>> # ./build-ca >>> Please edit the vars script to reflect your configuration, then >>> source it with "source ./vars". Next, to start with a fresh PKI >>> configuration and to delete any previous certificates and keys, run >>> "./clean-all". Finally, you can run this tool (pkitool) to build >>> certificates/keys. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> Thanks!Laszlo >> >> Hi Laszlo, >> >> Does the 'keys' dir exist, at /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys ? >> >> The main easy-rsa script (pkitool) tests for the existence of that >> directory, although - somewhat confusingly - not before it issues that >> other warning message! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 20:42:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB70ADB03F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward13o.cmail.yandex.net (forward13o.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a72::1e3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FB8F12E0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (smtp4o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.29]) by forward13o.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 52D2D21910; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 23:42:30 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E2216232008B; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 23:42:29 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id hG3I2Mmsg0-gTQqQ2EB; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 23:42:29 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-ForeignMX: US X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Subject: Re: no such geom: ada1 To: tyler@tysdomain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56F2DA76.6050908@tysdomain.com> From: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <56F2FFB4.5020504@passap.ru> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 23:42:28 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56F2DA76.6050908@tysdomain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:42:43 -0000 23.03.16 21:03, Littlefield, Tyler пишет: > I have 5 drives in this system, ada0 through ada4. One of my drives > stopped working in my ZFS pool after a FreeBSd reinstall. I exported > the pool, deleted partitions on the drive and am now trying to add the > partitions again. I am having no luck however. When I attempt to ad I > get the error in the subject line. The command I am using is: > gpart add -t freebsd-zfs ada1 The command "gpart add..." adds a partition to an existing partition scheme (created by a command "gpart create..."). More information is at GPART(8). HTH -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 21:00:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349B1ADB316 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208D2197A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1FD35ADB315; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D050ADB314 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 926431978 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u2NKmOhq085519; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:48:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD To: Daniel Feenberg , Valeri Galtsev References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Cc: krad , Olivier Nicole , questions@freebsd.org, Wayne Sierke From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <56F30107.7090301@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:48:07 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:58:27 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:00:44 -0000 On 2016-03-23 17:31, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> >> Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage >> too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some >> viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) >> >> First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In >> fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You >> only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too >> harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: >> remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. >> > > Is there a package out there that would block all email messages with > binary executable content? I understand that pdf and word files may > contain executable code - the package would have to be able to > distinguish such files with executable code and those without. (Is > that possible)? > > For us, that would be a satisfactory substitute for Kaspersky, perhaps > even a superior one. > > daniel feenberg Yes. There was a port called messagewall, where one could block attachments and html and other nasty stuff. Not in the ports any more. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 23 22:09:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03748ADBA15 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67E51D3C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D2165ADBA14; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B5AADBA13 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x243.google.com (mail-io0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B0431D3B for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x243.google.com with SMTP id p21so4787187ioe.1 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:09:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=EAwyMj+sF9NycjJfnMdU9j9UJV02Rqi8K7pq344Ixfs=; b=twFJh6qRrvSfAgHabJdksggWxl/wPF+HX0DOkqWjAzJWmNcnbDYOe1dLmYcvun2Eoe yDaXu3oax0P0bYeCZ2naNd8WjKH1g89TcomBoXeiK+/M2jQB8f1NpiUWvd4dbG6nrtNh qGVjx7VK99x239nxEbCkRxo+o7pCxHAvlBuPsf7PHup0sxSDLW4r80q97C4RU6JV2k6F omqRxD6SUu2i8mSIl8zlNYFPAW5E8Xk8he0WCUeQvbbni4cMD+0apFPKNqClAW7niOxr bMCUE1MZ+hWAXEKXtB1Wbb5Vst4K4z2M5LDrxg8s0WO0O/v1t1Rlf8YCh50Go2kDB0Tk Jd3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=EAwyMj+sF9NycjJfnMdU9j9UJV02Rqi8K7pq344Ixfs=; b=XEzApB/3jrlhxK7NlbFJ8nWAZhJsi0x+su+3F6lCuLvhGKjXjPg4SRZG83qbssIMWQ p3/y4I4ChU9sc9OWFIVnERIdZTqPlD6Qpbt13P0/CzEaMv1EicLN1mgA5z/6c0/ignct UCmhAjLXW7uSHycikq7Y9QTe8zyvInlBjdMuHtICF5EVEe9QJUYaCr6FOMvCDkAFs3Zb wtzk8gcC0CIfZGF195yDRdkccOVmoujhiJNTkByxuQ0NGpcqhuo371boDYUD6CJ3yqpj ovS1LxwRgrbbWul9P7vQMAGJBYrvw/6jF+gpW+Y1AMQQXiclHiWj9VQDP1NSyYKgAHqR uWwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKStDmDftE6OXaj4C5awhx8a5kpKhFw7uATx0d4D6bFVmJkb8+MnpSWp2zfTzdaf3h4hJPyJ6tYcLqQUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.7.20 with SMTP id 20mr5841169ioh.181.1458770975946; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.21.71 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56F30107.7090301@bananmonarki.se> References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F30107.7090301@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:09:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: Kurt Buff To: Bernt Hansson Cc: Daniel Feenberg , Valeri Galtsev , Olivier Nicole , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Wayne Sierke , krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:18:14 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:09:37 -0000 See also /usr/ports/security/maia and /usr/ports/mail/mimedefang. I've used the first one to great effect, though we (unfortunately, to my mind) replaced it with a Barracuda appliance which did basically the same thing, and cost a lot more. I tried implementing mimedefang, but staff complained bitterly about their html-formatted emails being trashed. Kurt On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-03-23 17:31, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >>> >>> Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage >>> too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some >>> viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) >>> >>> First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In >>> fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You >>> only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too >>> harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: >>> remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. >>> >> >> Is there a package out there that would block all email messages with >> binary executable content? I understand that pdf and word files may contain >> executable code - the package would have to be able to distinguish such >> files with executable code and those without. (Is that possible)? >> >> For us, that would be a satisfactory substitute for Kaspersky, perhaps >> even a superior one. >> >> daniel feenberg > > > Yes. There was a port called messagewall, where one could block attachments > and html and other nasty stuff. > > Not in the ports any more. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 00:50:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66952ADBBE3 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo.danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from nm41-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm41-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FDE81F0E for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo.danielisz@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1458780494; bh=vli5q3N0XXMgpgjemiV98DCXsPM++88qm2XIljrIWC4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=fSJ8F8DHaoog30xJRQ1aEZjW+N0g5+lZDTJEKsSolyTAPtVA1yJHIW1aTFngRsVMR8lstQZfJjQnObu12o46Bqwk7k/6M/Wd36R+83+SmMkASmkgqBOsJou9cjJbn8paBvmjaee4Qua0J56y51C/b11M4cw7UuBA+MaQuhHWwWgnlDH1Ni3KlXQHZtkBWwFCMgLTa7fhxUUJ1EEVtCycmTGyxpr0s8neGExvP2uO0fUEOXHEh1GRBOp2tRApomodHUNge4SSCYNKA2JHL1s37oIdGaqkkZm8Z/NVuTvjSEjaIwFNTlY/8srNoXShhEBjjH6XY75l7FzJgB0iKH5HBA== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm41.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2016 00:48:14 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.184] by nm41.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2016 00:45:21 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.170] by tm20.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2016 00:45:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.227] by tm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2016 00:45:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2016 00:45:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 872301.34892.bm@omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: LkWI3uMVM1k556xSMNZhjHJL90zF0Mly.CUrA9zwVJ7wXX.Ydegb4FVlUJ.gX3U K9HCOd7x9BmRPkP9IsueQXjCgPe6j3yH8XaYnTO4qYZ.jMn4wakh4fmCM3l7j5XpU6IDyk9h7lWx c_tGDM4XjuKzLMvFskMWM7jBbCrXEU1i_WRFYdXv6oK.GdzBF7TUS_QA4aCHxPXL387E66x0WGSb zHaeQwJQrCfeZJ8C1yp3R1YnKPzH8pVvZ7EGYgE.RmHxf8pjofcNkGtrZVspp_etmyhaeTcSp0NV MU55NHyPTj8c4E1Jh1K806Xwx6KChnY8ftJ3MsDEYHVXDbCMJrzq4tWc9PkJehYZYVkWCtm_2rg_ 2jQ075qSrfVoEvkJfwZaCJ0Rxg5AqFeXcjY_RYMBrq0EAby6E9geV7ppUk59pHmk8cyzCO044aCg 27FG9mN8O8HTRnVwC4qgE3.PQgWizX7KzPOnWG12CjZXZEiQwZDiw523SM9wTPYzXsQ7g4gxrehS Z_mq938A6qAzHGQLbZkwqL36xPnbGIB3s8VxzYVHBCy0J Received: by 66.196.80.145; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:45:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:45:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Reply-To: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <1937804927.4328688.1458780320035.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <56F2E99C.7060209@innolan.net> References: <56F2E99C.7060209@innolan.net> Subject: Re: openvpn issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:50:22 -0000 I did again as it was written here=C2=A0https://dnaeon.github.io/openvpn-fr= eebsd/, this time it worked. I guess I was just less tired :-) Thank you everyone for your help, I really appreciate it! Laszlo=20 On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:14 PM, Carsten wrote: =20 Use bash. Then the whole easy-rsa package works correctly. On 03/23/2016 09:14 AM, Shamim Shahriar wrote: > Also not sure you have done this, but after you have edited vars, before > running build-ca in your sh shell you need to do a . .vars (that is dot > space dot vars), then run build-ca. > > Hope this helps > On 23 Mar 2016 5:14 am, "Wayne Sierke" wrote: > >> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 00:07 +0000, laszlo.danielisz--- via freebsd- >> questions wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I am trying to install openvpn to a FreeBSD server >>> following this tutorial.I've edited vars, I am using sh, and all the >>> time I try to run ./buil-ca I'm getting the following errHior: >>> # pwd >>> /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa >>> # uname -a >>> FreeBSD do 10.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p7 >>> # . vars >>> NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on >>> /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys >>> # ./build-ca >>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please edit the vars script to reflect your configuration,= =C2=A0 then >>> source it with "source ./vars".=C2=A0 Next, to start with a fresh PKI >>> configuration and to delete any=C2=A0 previous certificates and keys, r= un >>> "./clean-all".=C2=A0 Finally, you can run this tool (pkitool) to build >>> certificates/keys. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> Thanks!Laszlo >> >> Hi Laszlo, >> >> Does the 'keys' dir exist, at /usr/local/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys ? >> >> The main easy-rsa script (pkitool) tests for the existence of that >> directory, although - somewhat confusingly - not before it issues that >> other warning message! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 04:32:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9ADAD6ECB for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 745CD188E for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282CDD7882; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:32:27 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458793946; x=1460608347; bh=vTYr+MJ2j 9uihNYZdmtxE7n+7g12D8pWMf9JiU35GeA=; b=U0alt/dUG1ONunmSAm1cePdLN 0Tt3RIlyMIZ8qD8nAvN/Lu9a3RlYF9vkPOjzTL8V7+AqcgHS0XAiqykkIt9FXUR+ b7VNR2Liz+eTfya2HpTIzVxare28PkRDGB7jx99iRLSKXBV2k4u6C+6UOXvMQoxP wN7/PSnMv1GlLQxXCU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id hpnZQYdFHC-f; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:32:26 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 034B0D7881; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:32:25 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2O4WIZV022529; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:32:18 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: Adrian Huryn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <2ED5E17B-6CD1-4868-88C3-157E6B4EC0DF@i-pi.pl> (message from Adrian Huryn on Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:06:10 +0100) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:32:18 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:32:31 -0000 Adrian, > Hello. Did you gry dr.Web AV for FreeBSD? I contacted them, I'll sumarize what I have found later. Thank, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 04:41:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9076ADC0A9 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F25D1DD3 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8E770ADC0A8; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E185ADC0A7 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44E1E1DD2 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1882D7883; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:41:00 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458794459; x=1460608860; bh=y22ePWWon 2k0UsJgZAoZDBhOsEDpX/vT7wdkyoyeX1U=; b=S4hV19n1PbTx2jhQDjHJPGqwF TTIK7SDmfr8o2Hf3v9b2jrK8uCa2tU7Hsf8Spd8WXZ4ReI0/4tMv+kIjX/tmDyjB dyHncRDVjFRkHuBjlwH2KD0y7m7xX+c1JRXmD1TYiqlF9dImg9wn8yZv2GDftTBC FdOmrAWkB5U/LuW+FY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id x7QgufRGmvbE; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:40:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F59FD7881; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:40:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2O4evCI046181; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:40:57 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: ws@au.dyndns.ws, kraduk@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> (galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:40:57 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:41:03 -0000 Valeri, > Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage > too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some > viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) I feel like bit of trolling :) > First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In > fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You > only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too > harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: > remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. And in the best of the wolrd, no one would be temptent to send viruses (I doubt anyone uses virii, or else, they also call the veeroos, not vayras). In the real world, you need to let the information flaw, so you have to take some risk. While a deny default is the best policy, it is not always possible to enforce. > Second, the very existence of Windows viruses is based on architecture > flaws of MS Windows system IMHO. I understand that there is a good share of viruses for Android nowdays, does that mean Android is build on to of Windows :) > Of course, most of us have to use and > maintain that system in a course of fulfilling our job duties; that can > not prevent us from having some attitude. Based on which I would > discourage running for your Unix/Linux mail server virus scanning software > on Windows machine. And that is why I am looking for an Av that run on freeBSD :) Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 04:46:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A97ADC247 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00BB01FCA; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5269D7883; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:46:52 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458794811; x=1460609212; bh=i4UT/U5ZW d9a/JlG+Ki0r0GlrO7VXMlDDdFLMcRjBXY=; b=WuHKLBc7XkUj4c2VkDbkFdX2H Azt1UDvOyE/FDcWmnVMY3luwBIsGKqT7P0LxfumN129cHRCJmGKIYIKvaVhamyMz qCgbAixHFuHF3FPhTQKIqmTc6L3s3tXc717rid/BhP3qNJ3hFTavcQPpPmTx2lgR UyHE4PMCEqnqQU0K/w= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id MsWrT0SGB9cE; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:46:51 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8F94D7881; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:46:51 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2O4kpek078755; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:46:51 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> (message from Matthew Seaman on Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:02:26 +0000) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:46:51 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:46:55 -0000 Matthew, > It is not possible a priori to strip out any file belonging to some > arbitrary application which implements some sort of embedded macro > language, let alone tell if any such file actually contains any > executable bits. If you know the format of the file, I believe you can scan it and find if it contains macro. It's time consuuming and implies you have a large knowledge of what every file looks like. Anti virus do that. > This is essentially the approach taken on these (FreeBSD) mailing lists, > except here, it's reversed: all attachements are removed, except for a > certain number of known-harmless ones, like PGP-Mime signatures or some > simple text formats. I think one of the reason, beside security, is to keep the list lean: if you allow attachements, you quickly end up with email send in the form of Words documents... If you cannot explain your problem using plain ASCII only, then you have to rethink what you are trying to explain first :) best regards, olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 04:53:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F29ADC399 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F39412C1 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1A8E5ADC398; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2FFADC397 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C520F12C0 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459D4D7882; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:52:59 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458795178; x=1460609579; bh=JASzM2toO VcTTeIG2+QVOM9xXvLyLdWzCCx+ocJ8IAc=; b=EYQ7irva1nnjAZMpjYId+foON H7EY5Tz05RbV2BWXr+z87CBgTVVy9q2PAQgvQX2+2CRmxwKyJJC40fQjZ4+bNqz8 iBqOo2Nm8O4UwqOPRwXCpiDWmnkJjYkXqx5Yldt74Vg4WD/LhWu5pnK7mv6vnTgK LbN//P/pSgzbv3sOrI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id jleVw63KETxH; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:52:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18CF8D7881; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:52:57 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2O4qvJu079541; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:52:57 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <48414.128.135.52.6.1458752888.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> (galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:52:57 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:53:02 -0000 Valeri, > However, to scan something with _that_ antivirus, you have to run their > binary code on one of your machines, right? Of course, one can feel > awfully smart (what!, say, I'm running some code on some system that does > nothing else but that code, and has no way to talk to anything apart from > getting what to scan and returning scanned...). Not to that extend, but the mail server does only mail. > I myself to the contrary > prefer to consider myself stupid when security of my boxes and privacy of > my users are concerned. So stupid that I can easily be outsmarted by any > of CIA, KGB, MI-6 and alike. Which definitely is 100% true, they easily > will outsmart me having all their resources. So I just try to keep away > from anything that potentially could have been touched by their hands. > That's the only thing I tried to say, and apparently failed ;-) You did not failed. But :) If I have to have secured email, I will secure it on my workstation before I even pass it to the mail system. Why worrying about the anti virus being able to spy on my email if I am about to send it to the world (through many email relay that I have no control upon whatsoever) in clear text? If the message is dully encrypted, then the anti virus, nor any bad guy should be able to spy on it. If the message is clear text, I must not worry too much about the privacy of its contents. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 07:42:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C4FADC1B1 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4D971F58; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id l68so53637331wml.1; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=seTn/EijkR2gw85eCtAlih0Ay+CNikRL41+W7ZJk2Cw=; b=tjA2gBYN+YjGjfsueE8sltiQo0vzRNBlOl1DBus3UrlUUH3TKJBhPlTMmEJJkzZnK0 CgPxBJn9H0sP+MQROEsz97HpQ/Q+VhbD6WvZFmLLoqoGFAzsSWohGkxos9mM+VqW+Bux 4aUQZkhE7MYw7Clf8CeQrGuaCZD3IoW6VFQs89tTdBeN8pWWKXpMddlCFuS5asFD1Lrd Hv930d7FQJCb9MnJHKKrvgCwN+xSIv5nkVqfcKQF2gVITlibJXwf22gtnZIXo6Hme01D YMJA0R8kyypSotsKZSz8kvczfXMrewR2ltuCHS3pFrfa5bqBM7567c4FM8OOX+B2gNVK e1cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=seTn/EijkR2gw85eCtAlih0Ay+CNikRL41+W7ZJk2Cw=; b=UnBAVs6JKyb3RG8eOWflRopfPtRmrJQvTgLD7d2i50irvjQRUWuDKsf0F6g5ABFQVN zTvuzsRbndFwcphkX/Ut2ug4JSTxAL9BPssT5O+BsKbB8MEwOZswp9+EvNDuO2O+vqDr dft2i6X5EzJnDNjn87yygOTqF2kHfeJ4n6CH77CWHJr2dXpfc3yYYZvxF9da7a6YRkQV PYgpfBdKUHFaQ9tBxOgF2lD0vM6GzZpwd0WdAmEp+6dbmNE6n15aZu0xfA1m58Pb2HPx TRKn8IUHmzrE1XwalI+6pPCMnIaQA3Bq5K9UoNoZDycQ+AMXnq+a4LBdYv1dus8jqUsy Zbsg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKPcap0WgMV3ytTGYCaQr/tyDd+VI+C4nS/qwGIKDeyZwr4yMfExViR+6kjj0AvHI4KSWKozaxzgenFBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.83.42 with SMTP id n10mr8211381wjy.20.1458805329293; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.68 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:42:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:42:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: krad To: Olivier Nicole Cc: Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:42:11 -0000 But a picture can contain a 1000 words, and it also engages different areas of the brain. However is an email a place for pictures? One can easily link to something, and thus side step the whole issue. On 24 March 2016 at 04:46, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Matthew, > > > It is not possible a priori to strip out any file belonging to some > > arbitrary application which implements some sort of embedded macro > > language, let alone tell if any such file actually contains any > > executable bits. > > If you know the format of the file, I believe you can scan it and find > if it contains macro. It's time consuuming and implies you have a large > knowledge of what every file looks like. Anti virus do that. > > > This is essentially the approach taken on these (FreeBSD) mailing lists, > > except here, it's reversed: all attachements are removed, except for a > > certain number of known-harmless ones, like PGP-Mime signatures or some > > simple text formats. > > I think one of the reason, beside security, is to keep the list lean: if > you allow attachements, you quickly end up with email send in the form > of Words documents... > > If you cannot explain your problem using plain ASCII only, then you have > to rethink what you are trying to explain first :) > > best regards, > > olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 07:50:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD101ADC2E8 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 464611233 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id p65so262643835wmp.1 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:50:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=RbneyJW7GXwc2KA4YA8ttB78/T5Mpw1PAaRO6kyP0no=; b=FGmytdTKhfSFE3cgpPK1D97m2PK7LFYXvEcGDiwSkhpGL8qI9hTnUFxGAfkdSPsSJ1 RnsKXai6Zzue5zrpkgsUCyQbGhHJXt+LUgLZhltG3w2K9nQeEE99L3UkwLnzF/Qvmux2 8WFaZDP7+V10fTa6QUjqbLNxPJwQLTJAZeIP5OT2n/DtZwPlO74J18CDQ7EnQb2NS500 KNqKqcWMA7ajvzm+yA0FHL3l+vU6d4tS64RKXpl9PxgfEwO1f4a2YxlfaP2W9RHxx1/C J///wrN7AjWxy7LQA9zTni6TGpurRQETIje6hyAY4YBfF4dtFnYXZ37sPd2R4q4uzapw 1hCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=RbneyJW7GXwc2KA4YA8ttB78/T5Mpw1PAaRO6kyP0no=; b=SqJnF2Y859i6Y/4GOiGbTiysvSiUsfgfF3TLqotp8Wl1G70p8bo62i7D/4Z4gdCbjO cx4pHZhaKpNydD65H7TsGE3WZQcFLMN0QxLED7Yk44O6gJOGxjt3twgHJh7Wm4y/KvBU QdwDeyZAVtNR8Rz3tTSMIos3qPYv4LtGijigi7/XFZaflpzo1RA1xF3tHkXLrbHTTkE8 gugvUBLVdDm9ZicbeHveSzJF5ArJMeOe6ZHoSmpO/8sBCkYVddCUbP+is6mFIDPaUJap MptrSPwS++K5YrsZZFSDIVgF+x8EpcSZTdaQcISiN0fgAb4kHG4jzSUBXMkYlL6M+XXQ KHzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJK00kZcjEPNWKDGuoTY8QPiMo6exM6JUjdJTMDq+8ErQpj0c03AGrG8ZYN5VUOBn3o9ILNOeYiwt/tgWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.138.198 with SMTP id m189mr31092768wmd.19.1458805831982; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.46.68 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:50:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:50:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release From: krad To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" Cc: Carmel , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:50:33 -0000 Are you sure this is correct? You could upgrade from 9-10 via freebsd update, and the OP did say when 11 is released, so the whole development case is not relevant in his case. It would also seem odd users would be left hanging with a missing step from 10-11 with binary updates. Sure freebsd-update wont be there in 11, but you are running freebsd 10 when you do the actual upgrade, and have freebsd-update available. On 22 March 2016 at 23:11, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > Carmel writes: > > > Are you saying that I could use pkg(8) to update the system to > > whatever the final release of FreeBSD 11 is? > > Development branches *must be updated from source.* Once you've > completely updated your system to 11.0-RELEASE from source you can > perform binary updates. > > But 10.3 is the last version to use freebsd-update anyway. I was just > making note of that---you can't use freebsd-update to move to or from a > development branch, but even if you could in the past you wouldn't now, > because it will no longer be available from 11.0 onward. pkg(8) will be > used instead, and still only from a numbered -RELEASE. > > -- > :: Brandon J. Wandersee > :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com > :: -------------------------------------------------- > :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' > :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 07:59:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F69ADC517 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5374176A for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B09A5ADC516; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03D4ADC515 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x241.google.com (mail-pa0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83BAD1769 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x241.google.com with SMTP id fl4so2079314pad.2 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:59:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8oBGceVEgSfDeQN2Q3LlVT7q8pNsB4lmGm1ItJVV3Qw=; b=nz4UICiSJlJaE85akElMeuG8L3v888JGOy1rHxfaK7j94uS/cIELPP1I2rX0+O3vLR 7v72gHEqxRIfogmWqMCwPxdHZbpgasoRbCQYL/xpQVDwPINWMlKVuIZtdsderA5I1wgN ndVdBiVtsrpXc/KzuVuhB5c/BHVWFzi7yWgwDUW2SWz7EF2Qijnbuhvw0vZOdiEnow86 5jGdHv1c3vVl6sjsY+Kkx87weM9XVqwAbjlapMN9ARaN8vOe/wBJ902WMwiBEiTGie2P ZbLbXCaKkYe01bKD1uKHKeDK3nlzyzJ8SaFr6h/pZ80cvaRW7QdT6n/Q+Xt65oI0VZg9 tXBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8oBGceVEgSfDeQN2Q3LlVT7q8pNsB4lmGm1ItJVV3Qw=; b=O2B4bo0VUxb6PI2czGOILAJowhwOm0X7tf2DzJq5KTqyzSnfSHLBfLE0e3ImtYCaQg vcBz2F9ooC6+1EWcwAaTBlJyaRnw4jXxRufYULFQx11gWH/lxgujYvbcYeAe0gNcROIS LdA9J4r93jjcMuAPWPGUhG1RCme/2Gh4/1wxlBrykC21ZL0CeWBL+hN82hwHbrUDG/8p pDXnk46WQ2nnHIRrDN9LU1u/cJDk3tqqI73NKu+KYKI58gdh4bkJp00G1fwh0s0J+YwF qs8p1X64G/H6yQeXOsOOLEiG2d3pgrsw7RPEJermujiCO3L81i7VvZv9v3CYYRVT8YWR 8A2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIuQEBwHo/qEkfGag/3GCiIvjnMvVgBL/v129lh/nWikJn7faUc9jhDtVPNEYSfmQ== X-Received: by 10.66.122.100 with SMTP id lr4mr10213968pab.99.1458806365184; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.125] ([120.29.76.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id vy6sm8657597pac.38.2016.03.24.00.59.23 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <56F39E66.9030006@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:59:34 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:59:25 -0000 How does spamassassin fit into this? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 08:08:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E16ADCA1B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC951C2C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6B357ADCA1A; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE35ADCA19 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 221811C2B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86827D7883; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:08:49 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458806928; x=1460621329; bh=KJCKm2QRe D2QtCQLEwZPU5vhJLpk9W/ZgYoMJMqOsRw=; b=JlmWk35yKzw0dnHdH/HmCvPXF o41ciHRu/Qt059ZVmpa1cdv/j3kfA64gAeKygkd+XBr+5a4y6RFEjoi5BM9FQaIt q7o0QH+dgrqPguXCv6c+twBltqW2uMD2m7166VPqqRq8bbrjpQbX9q7GyPdomvJe EjAiOz3pvpFhbLU650= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id AYxpHCd7SEPL; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:08:48 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F652D7882; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:08:48 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2O88cNf093909; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:08:38 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: Ernie Luzar Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <56F39E66.9030006@gmail.com> (message from Ernie Luzar on Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:59:34 +0800) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:08:38 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:52 -0000 Ernie, > How does spamassassin fit into this? SpamAssassin has never been desinged to find viruses, but to identify spam. Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 08:08:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D1CADCA07 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA5651BE3 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 491A2E9FC for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/491A2E9FC; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56F3A070.2030502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:16 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2pavhMRhkhdH1djqNjCKMT851kKhLms9F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2pavhMRhkhdH1djqNjCKMT851kKhLms9F Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="JIUPMcFbEF9WgnwbLv2T2bVpDAhwAVqtT" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56F3A070.2030502@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release References: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> In-Reply-To: --JIUPMcFbEF9WgnwbLv2T2bVpDAhwAVqtT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/03/2016 07:50, krad wrote: > Are you sure this is correct? You could upgrade from 9-10 via freebsd > update, and the OP did say when 11 is released, so the whole developmen= t > case is not relevant in his case. It would also seem odd users would be= > left hanging with a missing step from 10-11 with binary updates. Sure > freebsd-update wont be there in 11, but you are running freebsd 10 when= you > do the actual upgrade, and have freebsd-update available. The binary upgrade path from 10.x to 11.0 will consist of installing the pkg's for 11.0, not by use of freebsd-update. If you're installing from source, you now get some extra steps in the compilation process: 'make packages' creates not just the set of packages but builds a local repository, and you then use 'pkg install' to deploy the packages from that repository. Cheers, Matthew --JIUPMcFbEF9WgnwbLv2T2bVpDAhwAVqtT-- --2pavhMRhkhdH1djqNjCKMT851kKhLms9F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW86B3XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT6QgP/jwavoFzC9e79cBm3DFG8zLl SOfoVuRwhDWxMvB75jVyELiez7kbWZsZYvXf64TQTECl40lSEmv1awNhiHUETmdg r4HpbmvDvWSm1YFYZVYxNREwfhB6ydzMi4B75iS6f9GxQPiWv3LlYTiSW2Dopx1E vz9Qi/Y2Xa3Z4hWTyU8zzWKqWXwAVYED4ODIIc3hqQN7axw8fpgwPMe29Fft1s/V wl5qqocVXKBeDLGMQKGGkAjHgZyFpkeFpJ1nClpiaQQyG4JWlcqFckbEv6lcRwXN m1cnEjBmtuy5dbH1uo5bizNIcj53YtClSM9b7JjCjXQ6tgFis2gIxtbMX5E9BkXV ctCPIfGEm0mPR+/eZRidFe+y/fKWxpaS7A7n+f6O6OIKd6VNubs4I+0OdmyC++zg aK5KkK7RMyZeQXNb+pnFBKrVXB4p5/3n/khlbrgiY84KirWaPmRETerDiOI0CvPf p16z9PsYNbtK/3nGifHO2Py8+98BaC3TRBtQAVOHl1i8oOnw8bF4pvEo412PG2GG BATPtsWCk74Vn0rrlAxK6CgiU+QMlrhEDtZYPRavOkwKpisjHHXEdV5V9sB9JWt/ 4ma/kwjmm5MqeMUVIeNVuY/5JByQe/6shbArX8WNnYNwOhvia3Iqb72KDkLNR6y0 VozWfptBhbz6CDzs6UDL =Uz9y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2pavhMRhkhdH1djqNjCKMT851kKhLms9F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 08:17:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F35ADCD59 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-1.ln-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com [105.28.96.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 415BA118A for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=Mark-Tinkas-MacBook.local) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id O4HTZL-0001WO-D9; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:11:45 +0200 From: Mark Tinka Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release To: "Brandon J.Wandersee" , Carmel References: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9e74e67a-7db4-f3ec-19d1-3ed7e5bb617b@seacom.mu> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:11:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:17:21 -0000 On 23/Mar/16 01:11, Brandon J.Wandersee wrote: > > But 10.3 is the last version to use freebsd-update anyway. I was just > making note of that---you can't use freebsd-update to move to or from a > development branch, but even if you could in the past you wouldn't now, > because it will no longer be available from 11.0 onward. pkg(8) will be > used instead, and still only from a numbered -RELEASE. I suppose you mean 10.3 is the last release to support "freebsd-update" for development branches, yes? "freebsd-update" should still be supported for all general releases, yes? Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 10:33:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67924ADB7AA for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538A81CFA for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4F440ADB7A9; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C822ADB7A8 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp207.alice.it (smtp207.alice.it [82.57.200.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1B91CF6 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (82.58.25.117) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 56F2B38700471489; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:27:44 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u2OARhDf074721; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:27:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD To: Daniel Feenberg , Valeri Galtsev References: <1458712914.1578.37.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <62985.128.135.52.6.1458748953.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Cc: krad , Olivier Nicole , questions@freebsd.org, Wayne Sierke From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <56F3C11F.6060705@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:27:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:52:03 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:33:40 -0000 On 03/23/16 17:31, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > Is there a package out there that would block all email messages with > binary executable content? MIMEDefang comes to mind: I have it filter, amongst others, all .SCR, all .EXE if the customer agress and the latest fashion of a .JS inside a .ZIP. > I understand that pdf and word files may > contain executable code - the package would have to be able to > distinguish such files with executable code and those without. (Is that > possible)? That's harder, but I guess MD could do that if you find some external tool that can make that distinction. Please let us know if you find anything in this regard. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 13:06:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E27ADBF5D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s3.hotmail.com [65.55.111.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FCF5175B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU437-SMTP77 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 24 Mar 2016 06:05:00 -0700 X-TMN: [a2R1reJQ6sboA69hnzUbwO1TW9Qmiqao] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:04:51 -0400 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Atheros AR5BXB112 AR9380 Organization: Seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2016 13:05:00.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5B5A220:01D185CD] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:06:09 -0000 I was wondering if the "ath" network driver supports a "Atheros AR5BXB112 AR9380 PCI-E 1X PCI-E Wireless Desktop WiFi WLAN Card 450M Dual-band (2.4/5 GHz)" card. According to the man page, it supports the AR9300 programming API's, so I would assume that included the AR9380, but I wanted to make sure before I install the card. -- Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 14:25:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B8FADCB45 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DBE12FD for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3637BADCB44; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DF5ADCB43 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DD212FC for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 1F2C4CB8CB0; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:25:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:25:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:25:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Olivier Nicole" Cc: "Ernie Luzar" , questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:25:12 -0000 On Thu, March 24, 2016 3:08 am, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Ernie, > >> How does spamassassin fit into this? > > SpamAssassin has never been desinged to find viruses, but to identify > spam. In many setups (when someone is using amavis) spamassassin just works under the same hood of amawis together with one or another virus scanner. That's probably why it was mentioned earlier in scanning mail for MS Windows/Office viruses. (Is anybody in a mood of correcting me on the part that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? Are there any? ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 15:02:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ED5ADB673 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40F61E47 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E3698ADB671; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3199ADB670 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50D81E45 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id BC962CB8C94; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <30820.128.135.52.6.1458831738.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Olivier Nicole" Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:02:20 -0000 On Wed, March 23, 2016 11:52 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Valeri, > >> However, to scan something with _that_ antivirus, you have to run their >> binary code on one of your machines, right? Of course, one can feel >> awfully smart (what!, say, I'm running some code on some system that >> does >> nothing else but that code, and has no way to talk to anything apart >> from >> getting what to scan and returning scanned...). > > Not to that extend, but the mail server does only mail. > >> I myself to the contrary >> prefer to consider myself stupid when security of my boxes and privacy >> of >> my users are concerned. So stupid that I can easily be outsmarted by any >> of CIA, KGB, MI-6 and alike. Which definitely is 100% true, they easily >> will outsmart me having all their resources. So I just try to keep away >> from anything that potentially could have been touched by their hands. >> That's the only thing I tried to say, and apparently failed ;-) > > You did not failed. But :) > > If I have to have secured email, I will secure it on my workstation > before I even pass it to the mail system. > > Why worrying about the anti virus being able to spy on my email if I am > about to send it to the world (through many email relay that I have no > control upon whatsoever) in clear text? This is one thing in [system] security that we often tend to overlook. Penetration happens one tiny little step at a time. Say, you are running [some untrustworthy] code on your machine (or system) solely dedicated to scanning mail. You feel safe about mail. But you already let some potentially unfriendly one to run his code on your system. One tiny step on his part is already achieved with your consent. This is what I was trying to say. We used to say about security part of our sysadmins duties: paranoia is in my job description. And I apparently failed to stress it enough. It looks like I definitely had much better in that respect teachers than I can be (well, not thinking of myself as a teacher, but a person trying to pass the point along). Valeri > > If the message is dully encrypted, then the anti virus, nor any bad guy > should be able to spy on it. If the message is clear text, I must not > worry too much about the privacy of its contents. > > Best regards, > > Olivier > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 15:18:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E0BADBBF8 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66CBD147F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zero-gravitas.local (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81F19EBCB for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/81F19EBCB; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <56F40540.6090600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:18:24 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Xvok7AJaDMLc9LOuBDWkS1W5tPH3SuqS5" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.1 at smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:18:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Xvok7AJaDMLc9LOuBDWkS1W5tPH3SuqS5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PdT81M78R26jLKTiImggQbN4skb5QWAQT" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56F40540.6090600@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> --PdT81M78R26jLKTiImggQbN4skb5QWAQT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/03/24 14:25, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > (Is anybody in a mood of correcting me on the part > that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? A= re > there any? ;-) I believe that there is a growing corpus of Malware aimed at MacOS X, IOs and Android nowadays. Although nothing like as much as has been aimed at various Windows versions over the years. It's all down to how common those OSes are and whether the malware can achieve any sort of critical mass and whether it provides sufficient return for its authors. Of course, while FreeBSD is an unlikely target, it is certainly not immune. Nothing is. It's just it doesn't usually pay to attack FreeBSD machines because a) most FreeBSD users tend to pay more attention to security than your average machine-herder, and b) even if you do develop an interesting way of breaking into FreeBSD boxes, there aren't enough of them around to make them worthwhile as a target for recruiting into a botnet or the like. Also, since FreeBSD is pretty uncommon as a desktop sysetm, attacks on it that rely on end-users to click on things they shouldn't are pretty futile. Not when there's all those poorly written PHP applications and other network-exploitable code; a much more likely attack vector against FreeBSD -- but those tend not to require anti-virus software to defend against. Cheers, Matthew --PdT81M78R26jLKTiImggQbN4skb5QWAQT-- --Xvok7AJaDMLc9LOuBDWkS1W5tPH3SuqS5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJW9AVGXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnnIkQAKZiSaYeVHAfbY70XUJwZn6k mmijDo7HDluKBzwOwD7QEJOIc2vphBZ+ScOeO+lbPix3xYHHNUa+f64kQOlY8mNn 7iOdwM2/3ZTNlFPl1359YkgG8D6EOfY3J4BtJsnJnNDEmqAT+ik1bKmZAOpbeSlU iofmI2PKVP4p+KCNZV6eSpkdy4Vkt0rz+ZdIQrCK5ZvFlfjBY7gw/Y60QY4gnnZO chhcipkG64l2D+2dCpnuixVa1Oi08oSosZPDLPoe8ivIxtROKwm7Fe9/+w45YIsA PIsmy/EDFybdVdJ8jhqIZqg68y7GnN/BxMDOy6WGlEUpR31bA0L61oGqBp+79V1Z B1bZWmoj2w9ScN86RG6yRSddU1skbqFuJsT3gOc3YHdJptRQ4s5Q9oQln7Jb7q69 TBCGP3iEcE/XDK5eHh7IYR8q4NBaTVdvnpcKUEYGiPEp7fvdX/PBPnZJ7MIlQnMS DLDOGuKSo1BNz829kCoQYNEQNcv0DSw65cq5tZlkUlnwjxGlFts9JwHdW3XaEgQ5 mk/gOG7vHpf6IOgA4XojtbF22iuikeXSOa1w4HFea3djb4m6KhFEGm3CKP6UlPkY WQPFXkZGRVp9r4339cIEI/Wl8i8NyXPJAsOCKC9bvYXttWHfeLQzpo+BpQLFGi9A ycq4Ouzt3M7du7zgk+ek =D8Gk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Xvok7AJaDMLc9LOuBDWkS1W5tPH3SuqS5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 15:39:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1B8ADC37A for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604BD11A5; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 985CCCB8CA8; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:38:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:38:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35576.128.135.52.6.1458833939.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <56F40540.6090600@FreeBSD.org> References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F40540.6090600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:38:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Matthew Seaman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:39:01 -0000 On Thu, March 24, 2016 10:18 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2016/03/24 14:25, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> (Is anybody in a mood of correcting me on the part >> that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? >> Are >> there any? ;-) > > I believe that there is a growing corpus of Malware aimed at MacOS X, > IOs and Android nowadays. Although nothing like as much as has been > aimed at various Windows versions over the years. It's all down to how > common those OSes are and whether the malware can achieve any sort of > critical mass and whether it provides sufficient return for its authors. Do any of virus scanners scan for MacOS or Android aimed stuff? > > Of course, while FreeBSD is an unlikely target, it is certainly not > immune. Nothing is. It's just it doesn't usually pay to attack FreeBSD > machines because a) most FreeBSD users tend to pay more attention to > security than your average machine-herder, and b) even if you do develop > an interesting way of breaking into FreeBSD boxes, there aren't enough > of them around to make them worthwhile as a target for recruiting into a > botnet or the like. > > Also, since FreeBSD is pretty uncommon as a desktop sysetm, attacks on > it that rely on end-users to click on things they shouldn't are pretty > futile. Yes, this is where the difference between [MS Windows] virus and UNIX worm shows (and I would add MacOS into UNIX band, not certain about Android, as I'm not sure to what extend android executes when it sees something it can execute). I probably should exclude Morris worm here though. Basically, Windows viruses exploit mostly MS Windows architecture flaws. MS itself warns that to run MS Windows safely you should have anti-virus software (this is the only system vendor that plainly admits their system can not be run safely with some 3rd party software). Thanks for your nice input, Matthew! Valeri > Not when there's all those poorly written PHP applications and > other network-exploitable code; a much more likely attack vector against > FreeBSD -- but those tend not to require anti-virus software to defend > against. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 15:42:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07AAADC512 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC5E1539; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id C695ACB8CA8; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:42:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:42:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <18026.128.135.52.6.1458834144.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <35576.128.135.52.6.1458833939.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F40540.6090600@FreeBSD.org> <35576.128.135.52.6.1458833939.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:42:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: "Matthew Seaman" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:42:26 -0000 On Thu, March 24, 2016 10:38 am, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, March 24, 2016 10:18 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 2016/03/24 14:25, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> (Is anybody in a mood of correcting me on the part >>> that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? >>> Are >>> there any? ;-) >> >> I believe that there is a growing corpus of Malware aimed at MacOS X, >> IOs and Android nowadays. Although nothing like as much as has been >> aimed at various Windows versions over the years. It's all down to how >> common those OSes are and whether the malware can achieve any sort of >> critical mass and whether it provides sufficient return for its authors. > > Do any of virus scanners scan for MacOS or Android aimed stuff? > >> >> Of course, while FreeBSD is an unlikely target, it is certainly not >> immune. Nothing is. It's just it doesn't usually pay to attack FreeBSD >> machines because a) most FreeBSD users tend to pay more attention to >> security than your average machine-herder, and b) even if you do develop >> an interesting way of breaking into FreeBSD boxes, there aren't enough >> of them around to make them worthwhile as a target for recruiting into a >> botnet or the like. >> >> Also, since FreeBSD is pretty uncommon as a desktop sysetm, attacks on >> it that rely on end-users to click on things they shouldn't are pretty >> futile. > > Yes, this is where the difference between [MS Windows] virus and UNIX worm > shows (and I would add MacOS into UNIX band, not certain about Android, as > I'm not sure to what extend android executes when it sees something it can > execute). I probably should exclude Morris worm here though. Basically, > Windows viruses exploit mostly MS Windows architecture flaws. MS itself > warns that to run MS Windows safely you should have anti-virus software > (this is the only system vendor that plainly admits their system can not > be run safely with some 3rd party software). "..._without_ 3rd party software" I intended to say... - my twitchy fingers! > > Thanks for your nice input, Matthew! > > Valeri > >> Not when there's all those poorly written PHP applications and >> other network-exploitable code; a much more likely attack vector against >> FreeBSD -- but those tend not to require anti-virus software to defend >> against. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 15:49:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF5FADC767 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com (mail-io0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D93D71A1F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m184so88949534iof.1 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:49:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=v3dqn/PcGV3WQ+Pjebx6y7B2elQWhcyWNUNW9t/nUzM=; b=dq9AGUEpP0rRxH7jjMJhv8Et4Y4yMU0ksQSWhoaPAXRiKyZ+JiADvptLdiybyAW3LH j3NEBc5AxrBZ17C6Fsua7uAkck+Iq2tGsQTOa1CiHJcWH//e04hvKNpPAkToLka0Wpks V7C24aY6a8sxDZWIfPdFUIFYGivlLJ0TloZfXjpfWE+hn9Oo4Pm5QSLRJde+DC5HpEHj YzcHjqEhHWHN2FnQq+yVgrU+oJRI1pjEJwMMxu5/3fBasRAc1bR88fPWTiVOTvjeTaPD q9xspF5Dymf5e12b12vbJ+/rHFOUqk1Rb+8MKjd7gIzfV+dayK+u6BqbZ5M/DAhLREQK eO8w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLrGqrV20H4/LdefqfBqFRdwX0UFb5mdnBu6Yp1o+4srRW6o5n6j16J+2eeroI4wQ== X-Received: by 10.107.157.70 with SMTP id g67mr8888396ioe.38.1458834580820; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (174-30-194-109.mpls.qwest.net. [174.30.194.109]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ru1sm11520707igb.22.2016.03.24.08.49.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:49:39 -0700 (PDT) References: <86wpoutjnn.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86lh5at8e9.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: krad Cc: Carmel , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD and updating to new release In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:49:52 -0500 Message-ID: <86lh57q3j3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:49:48 -0000 krad writes: > Are you sure this is correct? You could upgrade from 9-10 via freebsd > update, and the OP did say when 11 is released, so the whole development > case is not relevant in his case. OP is presently running -CURRENT. So no, freebsd-update is not an option in that particular case. freebsd-update is still present in the -CURRENT source tree, but at the end of this year support for 9.3, 10.1, and 10.2 is being dropped.[1] So come December, 10.3 will be the only release using freebsd-update. Once 10.3 reaches end-of-life the only options will be to update to 11.x or track 10-STABLE, neither of which will be possible with freebsd-update. The latter will be completely obsolete. I can't speak for the developers, but I can't imagine them keeping it in HEAD for much longer. [1]: https://www.freebsd.org/security/ -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 16:15:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9BADCD75 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B951B6D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8257CADCD74; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F9EADCD73 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625501B68 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 87A8DCB8CAB; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:15:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:15:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <57130.128.135.52.6.1458836142.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:15:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Olivier Nicole" Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, ws@au.dyndns.ws, kraduk@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:15:48 -0000 On Wed, March 23, 2016 11:40 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Valeri, > >> Partly to toss some more fuel into the fire ;-) and partly to discourage >> too harsh judgement of "some anti-vurus software not catching some >> viruses" (or should I say virii as a plural of Latin word virus?) > > I feel like bit of trolling :) > >> First of all, the whole anti-virus approach is fundamentally flawed. In >> fact, you can not enumerate bad (what anti-virus is trying to do). You >> only can enumerate good and prohibit everything else. So, don't be too >> harsh on those [anti-viruses] that miss some of evil things sometimes: >> remember, they are trying to do the task that is fundamentally flawed. > > And in the best of the wolrd, no one would be temptent to send viruses > (I doubt anyone uses virii, or else, they also call the veeroos, not > vayras). > > In the real world, you need to let the information flaw, so you have to > take some risk. While a deny default is the best policy, it is not > always possible to enforce. > >> Second, the very existence of Windows viruses is based on architecture >> flaws of MS Windows system IMHO. > > I understand that there is a good share of viruses for Android nowdays, > does that mean Android is build on to of Windows :) Are there many Android viruses? Then they (Android) probably do the same stupid thing (feeling safe because of having you - user - sitting with your stuff in jail), and are trying to execute whatever they see executable around... Did I guess it correctly? Valeri > >> Of course, most of us have to use and >> maintain that system in a course of fulfilling our job duties; that can >> not prevent us from having some attitude. Based on which I would >> discourage running for your Unix/Linux mail server virus scanning >> software >> on Windows machine. > > And that is why I am looking for an Av that run on freeBSD :) > > Best regards, > > Olivier > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 16:56:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8F5ADC6C6 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5C81342 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E9039ADC6C5; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89EFADC6C4 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oceanview.tundraware.com", Issuer "oceanview.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE1AA1341 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.43.211] (mobile-166-175-56-204.mycingular.net [166.175.56.204] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u2OEVkM5093149 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:31:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:31:40 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:31:47 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: u2OEVkM5093149 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:56:34 -0000 On 03/24/2016 09:25 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? Are > there any? ;-) Yes - for MacOS at least. FWIW, my preferred arrangements is a configuration of: MailScanner spamassassin clamav milter-greylist However, I have discovered that clamav likes a LOT of machine resources and will basically stall a very small machine like, say, a VPS server. I know, I know, "you don't run mail on small VPS servers" ... except when you do ;) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 17:02:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA56CADC80F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1681680 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BC346ADC80E; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD6AADC80C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) Received: from aer-iport-4.cisco.com (aer-iport-4.cisco.com [173.38.203.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "aer-iport.cisco.com", Issuer "HydrantID SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05913167E for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmcgover@cisco.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1609; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458838942; x=1460048542; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=RwOKWLFOMFwQSXp0J1+AFfxS39ZtenI1QTTpVjk1us0=; b=YAJjGDoaZ8AUddMA0o42vIBB8Xhx9K8tyqQ9Y674DeqUATy0/+9zbbHF sY6uo+KTU2qRf6QbnuoT8i/vWbAtSaia3mtQNzHeKpXFHDvzOp5fdT8pC gWngmGQyYO+KR59UwpHVQLzVHWhtAdqND204a5NsqBaZKeuwaF2+XKwKA 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0CoBACfHPRW/xbLJq1ehQq4PoQNiA0BA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQFlHAuESDpRATgGQicEGxGIDqBToEMBAQgBAQEBARuGHohbDWaFCAWHXYc?= =?us-ascii?q?QiHEBjXyPEo8IAWKDZYkGPH4BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,385,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="636516789" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 24 Mar 2016 17:01:09 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-003.cisco.com (xch-rtp-003.cisco.com [64.101.220.143]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2OH18Cf022170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:01:08 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-005.cisco.com (64.101.220.145) by XCH-RTP-003.cisco.com (64.101.220.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:01:07 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-005.cisco.com ([64.101.220.145]) by XCH-RTP-005.cisco.com ([64.101.220.145]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:01:07 -0400 From: "Brian McGovern (bmcgover)" To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: GNOME 3 upper RAM limit? Thread-Topic: GNOME 3 upper RAM limit? Thread-Index: AQHRhe7Bbe4A6oykPkG/qsqGGB0fFA== Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:01:06 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.131.65.20] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:02:22 -0000 This may sound like a stupid question, but I wanted to float it before I sp= ent some time to go off and try to research it. I'm seeing a problem with G= nome 3 not working above a certain memory configuration, but there is still= some overlap I can't explain. I figured I'd float it in case it was a know= n issue. Gnome 3.14.2 works on a FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE-p10 machine with 32GB of memor= y (32768 real, 31641 avail). Gnome 3.16.2 works on a Lenovo laptop with 8GB of RAM. Gnome 3.16.2 fails on a Lenovo laptop with 32GB of RAM (same laptop, 32768 = real, 31386 avail) Gnome 3.18.0 fails on a server with 256GB of RAM. X in all cases is generally well behaved; I can run xdm, log in, life is wo= nderful. A few applications crash, but no more or less so than under Gnome = on the working machines. The common symptom of failure is that upon providing your username and pass= word, there is a long delay, followed by the white "Oh no! Something has go= ne wrong." screen with the option of logging back out, which works. The only message I get on the console beyond the normal startup junk is is = "gdm[XXXX]: Failed to remove greeter program access to display. Trying to p= roceed." On the Lenovo, I can switch between the memory configs, and it "works", or = "not". Again, just curious if its known in circles other than mine before I chase = it at all. I have the fallback of going to another window manager/desktop, = so its not critical, so I'm not sure how many hours I'll burn on it, but I'= d like to be able to keep trucking with my existing desktop.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 17:09:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FEDADCA6C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833F81A37 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 828DEADCA6B; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822A5ADCA6A for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6366A1A36 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 7E5E1CB8C95; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:09:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:09:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:09:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Tim Daneliuk" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:09:24 -0000 On Thu, March 24, 2016 9:31 am, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 03/24/2016 09:25 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? >> Are >> there any? ;-) > > Yes - for MacOS at least. Could you give some links to information about MacOS viruses? I am really curious. The only thing I can find on the web are some trojans (like Flashback) installed into user's web browser settings. These do not constitute viruses in my book, as they do not lead to system level compromise, they are just something installed into particular user's space with consent of that particular user. The only other thing I remember was when Apple failed to include into updates long released java vulnerability fix... compromise through which doesn't constitute successful virus attack in my book as well. Thanks in advance for information! Valeri > > FWIW, my preferred arrangements is a configuration of: > > MailScanner > spamassassin > clamav > milter-greylist > > However, I have discovered that clamav likes a LOT of machine resources > and > will basically stall a very small machine like, say, a VPS server. I > know, > I know, "you don't run mail on small VPS servers" ... except when you do > ;) > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 18:06:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9EEADC7DC for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EEB169E for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4F654ADC7D9; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F00AADC7D6 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from cerebro.liukuma.net (cerebro.liukuma.net [IPv6:2a00:d1e0:1000:1b00::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD8B1699 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from cerebro.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerebro.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6794F8B173A for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:06:34 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 cerebro.liukuma.net 6794F8B173A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1458842794; bh=YeJiBI9FXiZuq8Q9w9kWo2b/iBCT/SECFrt9AfsHzQQ=; h=From:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=r4//cVYPCjkU2P3mdbJ+dvcH2GhjlfL7/ABl/Zvz+5dk+z+30+lzKM8NhCzoYfdkz gT8sNhBpCimDYLYZXZwA8GRm8ycWG6y3O7MMIeYLZJ4159I1LG2LzbJWKtH5WqBQhm U6RUN93fu3O9Zubs1LST0qYF6TcjFhm452mJoeD0= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from cerebro.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by cerebro.liukuma.net (cerebro.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id LRy8bFba7Ral for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:06:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-50dfdd-193.dhcp.inet.fi [80.223.221.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@cerebro.liukuma.net) by cerebro.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43D888B172F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:06:30 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 cerebro.liukuma.net 43D888B172F Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" Cc: References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:06:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3564.1216 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3564.1216 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:06:44 -0000 https://truesecdev.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/hidden-backdoor-api-to-root-privileges-in-apple-os-x/ Quite scary that a company is unable to fix their older OSes for whatever reason. -Reko -----Original Message----- From: Valeri Galtsev Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 7:09 PM To: Tim Daneliuk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD On Thu, March 24, 2016 9:31 am, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 03/24/2016 09:25 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS >> products? >> Are >> there any? ;-) > > Yes - for MacOS at least. Could you give some links to information about MacOS viruses? I am really curious. The only thing I can find on the web are some trojans (like Flashback) installed into user's web browser settings. These do not constitute viruses in my book, as they do not lead to system level compromise, they are just something installed into particular user's space with consent of that particular user. The only other thing I remember was when Apple failed to include into updates long released java vulnerability fix... compromise through which doesn't constitute successful virus attack in my book as well. Thanks in advance for information! Valeri > > FWIW, my preferred arrangements is a configuration of: > > MailScanner > spamassassin > clamav > milter-greylist > > However, I have discovered that clamav likes a LOT of machine > resources > and > will basically stall a very small machine like, say, a VPS server. > I > know, > I know, "you don't run mail on small VPS servers" ... except when > you do > ;) > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 18:52:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452BDADB16D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rakupottery.org.uk) Received: from iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com (rslrsmtp2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC94C1B24 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rakupottery.org.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2CoBAAdNvRW//6AGD5aAxsBAYNpvU6FQ0oCggABAQEBAQFlJ4RBAQECAzgWIAoNAgILEQQBAQEJEwMPCQMCAQIBCRYeCA4FCAEBGQSICgrBSgSKXoQdAQEFOSaFDwWHXYcQiHGXO4VUh0iHQWKBfm0BeYkOgTIBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A2CoBAAdNvRW//6AGD5aAxsBAYNpvU6FQ0oCggABAQEBAQFlJ4RBAQECAzgWIAoNAgILEQQBAQEJEwMPCQMCAQIBCRYeCA4FCAEBGQSICgrBSgSKXoQdAQEFOSaFDwWHXYcQiHGXO4VUh0iHQWKBfm0BeYkOgTIBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,386,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="703652156" Received: from smtp-pub.talktalk.net (HELO rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com) ([62.24.128.254]) by iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2016 18:47:34 +0000 Received: from [92.27.146.104] (helo=imac.local) by rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ajAI0-0006dh-QH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:47:24 +0000 Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> From: Martin Smith Message-ID: <56F43637.3030901@rakupottery.org.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:47:19 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:52:32 -0000 On 24/03/2016 18:06, Reko Turja wrote: > https://truesecdev.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/hidden-backdoor-api-to-root-privileges-in-apple-os-x/ > > > Quite scary that a company is unable to fix their older OSes for > whatever reason. I would hazard a guess at unwilling rather than unable, as basically anything prior to 10.8 is no longer supported for security updates as far as I know, it may be even more recent than that, but who else is issuing securiy patches for any os older than 3 or 4 years these days, what is the oldest FBSD that gets security updates these days? > > -Reko > > -----Original Message----- From: Valeri Galtsev > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 7:09 PM > To: Tim Daneliuk > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD > > > On Thu, March 24, 2016 9:31 am, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> On 03/24/2016 09:25 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? >>> Are >>> there any? ;-) >> >> Yes - for MacOS at least. > > Could you give some links to information about MacOS viruses? I am really > curious. The only thing I can find on the web are some trojans (like > Flashback) installed into user's web browser settings. These do not > constitute viruses in my book, as they do not lead to system level > compromise, they are just something installed into particular user's > space > with consent of that particular user. The only other thing I remember was > when Apple failed to include into updates long released java > vulnerability > fix... compromise through which doesn't constitute successful virus > attack > in my book as well. > > Thanks in advance for information! > > Valeri > >> >> FWIW, my preferred arrangements is a configuration of: >> >> MailScanner >> spamassassin >> clamav >> milter-greylist >> >> However, I have discovered that clamav likes a LOT of machine resources >> and >> will basically stall a very small machine like, say, a VPS server. I >> know, >> I know, "you don't run mail on small VPS servers" ... except when you do >> ;) >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com >> PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 19:14:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCEAADB78F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f173.google.com (mail-ig0-f173.google.com [209.85.213.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA9A1512; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-f173.google.com with SMTP id av4so838152igc.1; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:14:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=WjOdlXyOD7TJqejR1F4ZLIM6Y6RmyDAQu2Ycsj/EUEU=; b=GV2csgVaWaUwiIvdE8MOOk4aoiduw52UYPxG2XhmzW4XGt1T6tUMAVqc5xkqatOhXn 8lBrvk3BBtMiWAwY3x1WtsaUc5QYd7CzKajF1a34CCZjvT6fLXb1cfUXwnQHiDB0/QQZ ivY+YpB0B8d1RPyh85W9Klw957jdEPfHje6qCBTfkskRe9voSNis5V/TlWJ1sRoAq07T C3AmpR0pGmXUZbW2tzbC2szSWDW9zwRzGSjUDX5uSwMO4o20bf6x6SA06hxDreSeI0YM 7X+GYNw4dYiLfBIAOCvE239p8k304pksVpwWBW9h2LeddsmjfLRT3bj26mzT24kdETwf 3wGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIT7STfArGDNxcbFH8YUG80E/B5L8UGuShnAQC1BTWwAfGYkm8t7I3ofFD5g4DSKQ== X-Received: by 10.50.67.113 with SMTP id m17mr10672670igt.52.1458846849840; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (174-30-194-109.mpls.qwest.net. [174.30.194.109]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gy3sm11923797igb.7.2016.03.24.12.14.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:14:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <56F2CC22.9090500@FreeBSD.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: krad Cc: Olivier Nicole , Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:14:21 -0500 Message-ID: <86k2krpu2a.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:14:17 -0000 krad writes: > But a picture can contain a 1000 words... ...and kilobytes. :P And if you amend the rules to allow one image, someone will inevitably wonder why it's not reasonable to change the rules to allow more. Because they can't capture all the output during boot at once, you see. They need to reboot multiple times and take multiple photos of their monitors with their smartphones to get it all. Sorry, I'm ranting now, but I've seen this happen in online forums. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 19:41:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26583ADBF3B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABC011A5 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 063AFADBF3A; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EBCADBF39 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1BE111A3 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ig19so1248090igb.0 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:41:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=f0mTDsl8QfEjYTVQtzDKIrUzF6mWMGdSv8/mwX1rlHA=; b=B6HuPjnSiUz6dEPC/TSrlLOIV3DWgoMtLQqxeCLVm/M8fiuZUywLE+b6wK5tQweo6V dUr3+iaidNhiDJ8WpYFrSFn1c3q1pfXIMp9uw+RatKIhrRbphKeu0FqRUviIqfGaPgwV ZbsCBTtmhre4PL5z9MHr7SENWKWH9Mx5hgvL18Ra91brLa/CNSwWTdS6JKDCAe9dPItS b0DKlO3qnfIZXF+HeWsz3GjRQZ6hiJTmNFKyBibPH3Bt/00goqoM3oo+UEEhMTMDNotb 3BPT/ZXx6tNFaTs9o9zCSqjbRSo0UAEXsEb4PLDx3VrwXVIa9fnCRGtVsLfJPzj091pN JzKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJAV/TTHU4yZavOfT9lKjUSwoWTp4aOI2i1hKEJXyFq9tVPPwEXZA4JjMaJdo59cQ== X-Received: by 10.50.62.113 with SMTP id x17mr11400513igr.34.1458848504220; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WorkBox.Home.gmail.com (174-30-194-109.mpls.qwest.net. [174.30.194.109]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gy3sm11968036igb.7.2016.03.24.12.41.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:41:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: Tim Daneliuk , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-reply-to: <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:41:56 -0500 Message-ID: <86io0bpssb.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:41:51 -0000 Valeri Galtsev writes: > On Thu, March 24, 2016 9:31 am, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> On 03/24/2016 09:25 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> that we scan for viruses attacking something else not on MS products? >>> Are there any? ;-) Not a virus, but the only thing I've seen recently was the KeRanger ransomware distributed after the code repo for the Transmission Bittorrent client was compromised.[1] Ransomware is probably the least threatening of malware out there, since it seems limited in effect and is thwarted by regular backups. Though those facts and my opinion don't mean anything to folks who get stuck with it and have no recent backups. [1]:https://blog.malwarebytes.org/mac/2016/03/first-mac-ransomware-spotted/ -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 19:58:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE35FADC4DA for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998221D13 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 94F1BADC4D9; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949E2ADC4D8 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DE121D12 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-102.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B55D277E5; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:58:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2OJwPbO002760; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:58:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:58:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD Message-Id: <20160324205825.2b14c0bf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <86io0bpssb.fsf@WorkBox.Home> References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <86io0bpssb.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:58:36 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:41:56 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > Ransomware is probably the least > threatening of malware out there, since it seems limited in effect and > is thwarted by regular backups. Interesting point of view. :-) Here are a few impressions regarding ransomware (which I think could be the next "big thing" especially in the industry space as well as in the "cloud" - because it's so easy to trick users into doing something wrong, and then they don't have any chance to avoid paying). Especially where R&D takes place (or "corporate secrets", "new invention", "big data of clients" etc. are vital to business operations and how companies are perceived by the public), this could have a _massive_ impact. http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/03/hospital-declares-internet-state-of-emergency-after-ransomware-infection/ http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-ransomware-idUSKCN0W80VX http://www.networkworld.com/article/2906983/security0/massachusetts-police-department-pays-500-cryptolocker-ransom.html http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/21/us-police-force-pay-bitcoin-ransom-in-cryptolocker-malware-scam https://securityledger.com/2015/10/fbis-advice-on-cryptolocker-just-pay-the-ransom/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/11/crypto-e-mail-service-pays-6000-ransom-gets-taken-out-by-ddos-anyway/ http://hothardware.com/news/sony-comes-to-a-screeching-halt-targeted-by-massive-ransomware-hack http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/youre-infected-if-you-want-to-see-your-data-again-pay-us-300-in-bitcoins/ http://www.tekconn.com/news/managed-it/hackers-ransom-data-stolen-from-illinois-medical-facility/ As you mentioned "backups": What is their value when they are permanently online and accessible (bacause that's sooo conventient for the users) - and therefore get encrypted, too? ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 22:04:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13039ADCC86 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rakupottery.org.uk) Received: from iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com (rslrsmtp2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D581F8B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rakupottery.org.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2BxBQDrY/RW//6AGD5dHYNqfaZWBQGBEZRlJYUeSgKCAgEBAQEBAWUnhEIBAQQ4QBELGAkTAw8JAwIBAgFFEwgBARaIEQrBLAEBAQcBAQEBAQEBARiFVoUMhBZyhQoFl16FcYpGhwSFVI8KYoNlbAGIGIE7AQEB X-IPAS-Result: A2BxBQDrY/RW//6AGD5dHYNqfaZWBQGBEZRlJYUeSgKCAgEBAQEBAWUnhEIBAQQ4QBELGAkTAw8JAwIBAgFFEwgBARaIEQrBLAEBAQcBAQEBAQEBARiFVoUMhBZyhQoFl16FcYpGhwSFVI8KYoNlbAGIGIE7AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,387,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="703725410" Received: from smtp-pub.talktalk.net (HELO rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com) ([62.24.128.254]) by iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2016 22:04:26 +0000 Received: from [92.27.146.104] (helo=imac.local) by rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ajDMd-0000tC-Mq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <86io0bpssb.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160324205825.2b14c0bf.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Martin Smith Message-ID: <56F46462.5010204@rakupottery.org.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:18 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160324205825.2b14c0bf.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:27 -0000 On 24/03/2016 19:58, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:41:56 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> Ransomware is probably the least >> threatening of malware out there, since it seems limited in effect and >> is thwarted by regular backups. > Interesting point of view. :-) > > Here are a few impressions regarding ransomware (which I think > could be the next "big thing" especially in the industry space > as well as in the "cloud" - because it's so easy to trick users > into doing something wrong, and then they don't have any chance > to avoid paying). Especially where R&D takes place (or "corporate > secrets", "new invention", "big data of clients" etc. are vital > to business operations and how companies are perceived by the > public), this could have a _massive_ impact. > > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/03/hospital-declares-internet-state-of-emergency-after-ransomware-infection/ > > http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-ransomware-idUSKCN0W80VX > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2906983/security0/massachusetts-police-department-pays-500-cryptolocker-ransom.html > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/21/us-police-force-pay-bitcoin-ransom-in-cryptolocker-malware-scam > > https://securityledger.com/2015/10/fbis-advice-on-cryptolocker-just-pay-the-ransom/ > > http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/11/crypto-e-mail-service-pays-6000-ransom-gets-taken-out-by-ddos-anyway/ > > http://hothardware.com/news/sony-comes-to-a-screeching-halt-targeted-by-massive-ransomware-hack > > http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/youre-infected-if-you-want-to-see-your-data-again-pay-us-300-in-bitcoins/ > > http://www.tekconn.com/news/managed-it/hackers-ransom-data-stolen-from-illinois-medical-facility/ > > As you mentioned "backups": What is their value when they are > permanently online and accessible (bacause that's sooo conventient > for the users) - and therefore get encrypted, too? ;-) I think this is actually one of the biggest problems, computers and the internet have had a very similar effect to the motor car, they have made people lazy, and of course the drive for higher profits by using less staff does not help either, hence everything has to be instantly available from everywhere without any thought for security..... > > -- Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 25 03:49:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25E2ADD331 for ; 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Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:51:29 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: luzar722@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> (galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:51:29 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:51:40 -0000 Valeri, > In many setups (when someone is using amavis) spamassassin just works > under the same hood of amawis together with one or another virus > scanner. Agreed, and that's the way I use it. But anti-virus and anti-spam tackle very different needs, different logic, different way of solving the problem. That's when confusing them both that you end up with horribly bloated software, that consumes way too much resources and become unmanageable. Not to mention it does not help the users to get a clear image of how their system is working. bets regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 25 03:53:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B66ADD595 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F09E1DF0 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6ACD6ADD594; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7BDADD593 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21D141DEC for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78684D7883; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:53:44 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1458878023; x=1460692424; bh=4boGdKJZs WqUl5e7C9S0BsZBHrtxMNZtBsBAWj5ecm4=; b=mAUF1fYsWm2LNVum6LB2r8wuo 1dM0KnVZqpqMXxItqOqFEDBwM/5NclDpnwqPrB9+a58ZEadiMfOIyX6Z0JLmRuR/ a0XFMmG1yg/lPbuR3kxI5UDk2n/S87q03/3qs6rH5DDoV2Bc+oIljqKjt6XZOme9 ljiX14XbnSJ5Bg8T1o= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id MBmTJ2182PCF; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:53:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C297D7882; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:53:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u2P3rh70099947; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:53:43 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <30820.128.135.52.6.1458831738.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> (galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:53:43 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:53:47 -0000 Valeri, > Penetration happens one tiny little step at a time. Say, you are running > [some untrustworthy] code on your machine (or system) solely dedicated to > scanning mail. You feel safe about mail. But you already let some > potentially unfriendly one to run his code on your system. One tiny step > on his part is already achieved with your consent. This is what I was > trying to say. Point taken, i totally overlooked that aspect. kBest regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 25 16:20:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC2CADDC62 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 16:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 1364@allunix.ru) Received: from ns1.allunix.ru (mail.allunix.ru [85.118.230.76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9CE51100 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 1364@allunix.ru) Received: from gamer ([10.10.52.20]) by ns1.allunix.ru (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u2PFwPVq090959 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 21:58:26 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from 1364@allunix.ru) X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 11.0.4.01150, engine: 11.0.1.10200, virus records: 6975621, updated: 25.03.2016] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Dmitry Bachilo <1364@allunix.ru> Subject: How can FreeBSD work with keyboard on a dead southbridge where other systems fail? Message-ID: <56F56118.2070205@allunix.ru> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 22:02:32 +0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 16:20:12 -0000 So, here is the story: I have a laptop Acer Aspire 5100, which has a dead southbridge. In any operating system it predictibly results in non-working audio, usb, keyboard and touchpad. I tried Windows XP, Windows 7, Linux and FreeDOS. They all work ok on it except this minor stuff. I also obvioulsy can't access BIOS since keyboard is dead. And if I install FreeBSD on it ofcouse I cant skip that autoboot delay with the boot menu. But if system boots - the keyboards suddenly works like a charm, and that makes my laptop totally usable and fine (for example to set up ethrenet switches using cardbus serial adapter). That's a miracle! Or is it? So the question is: what makes FreeBSD so different? How does it work with the keyboard and why no other OS uses this method then? P.S. I even made the video about this situation and it has an image of this laptop's motherboard if needed. Here it is: https://youtu.be/JBt_fbvpGww From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 25 17:53:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CF0ADD3D7 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB4791AC8 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ajVut-0005uo-3D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 18:53:00 +0100 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 18:52:59 +0100 Received: from gyliamos by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 18:52:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: how to downgrade X server Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 23 Message-ID: Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:53:10 -0000 I purposely held off on upgrading the to new X server for over a year now for fear of breakage, but yesterday I upgaded to the latest Xorg server along with the associated video and input drivers and am left with a black screen upon starting the X server. Since I can't figure out how to solve the problem, I'd simply like to go back to the previously installed software, but the documentation is unclear on how to do so. I have the saved versions of the previous packages in /usr/ports/packages, but doing the naive (and apparently incorrect): # pkg install /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. pkg: /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz is not a valid package: no manifest found pkg: No packages available to install matching '/usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1' have been found in the repositories It should be possible to re-install from the saved packages, right? But how? 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Cordially, -- Etha Caira From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 26 04:10:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6115ADE166 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 04:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0831D04 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 04:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp118-210-182-127.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.182.127]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2016 14:39:51 +1030 Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server To: gyliamos@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:39:49 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 04:10:00 -0000 On 26/03/2016 04:22, Will Parsons wrote: > I purposely held off on upgrading the to new X server for over a year > now for fear of breakage, but yesterday I upgaded to the latest Xorg > server along with the associated video and input drivers and am left > with a black screen upon starting the X server. Why did you expect it to break? do you need an older nvidia driver that is not supported in xorg 1.14+ > Since I can't figure out how to solve the problem, I'd simply like to > go back to the previously installed software, but the documentation is > unclear on how to do so. I have the saved versions of the previous > packages in /usr/ports/packages, but doing the naive (and apparently > incorrect): > > # pkg install /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz is not a valid > package: > no manifest found > pkg: No packages available to install matching > '/usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1' have been found in the repositories > > It should be possible to re-install from the saved packages, right? > But how? That package would be from the old package system. It would mean removing the newer pkg to install it. Though you should be able to untar it into place, after removing the existing xorg, which would also uninstall dependant ports... The problem with xorg, is knowing what versions work together, by installing an older xorg you may break the newer input-mouse or libGL... The only reliable way I would expect to work constantly would be to use an old ports tree with the versions you want, each port in the tree would also match up with the same version. Looking through the svn logs, revision 374489 updated xorg to 1.12.4 which includes security fixes that aren't being back ported to 1.7.7 so xorg 1.7 gets marked as forbidden. (WITH_NEW_XORG is needed to build 1.12 otherwise 1.7.7 is bult) The next commit removed 1.7 completely https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=374489 If you do want to go back to 1.7.7 then you could checkout an svn revision of 374489 or less than 374982 and use that ports tree to build your own ports. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 26 09:43:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D5BADB576 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42AE710D5 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id u2Q9gZ70051450; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 10:43:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: How can FreeBSD work with keyboard on a dead southbridge where other systems fail? To: Dmitry Bachilo <1364@allunix.ru>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56F56118.2070205@allunix.ru> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <56F6598C.4060208@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 10:42:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56F56118.2070205@allunix.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:43:31 -0000 On 2016-03-25 17:02, Dmitry Bachilo wrote: > So, here is the story: I have a laptop Acer Aspire 5100, which has a > dead southbridge. In any operating system it predictibly results in > non-working audio, usb, keyboard and touchpad. I tried Windows XP, > Windows 7, Linux and FreeDOS. They all work ok on it except this minor > stuff. I also obvioulsy can't access BIOS since keyboard is dead. And > if I install FreeBSD on it ofcouse I cant skip that autoboot delay > with the boot menu. But if system boots - the keyboards suddenly works > like a charm, and that makes my laptop totally usable and fine (for > example to set up ethrenet switches using cardbus serial adapter). > That's a miracle! Or is it? > > So the question is: what makes FreeBSD so different? How does it work > with the keyboard and why no other OS uses this method then? > > P.S. I even made the video about this situation and it has an image of > this laptop's motherboard if needed. Here it is: > https://youtu.be/JBt_fbvpGww > The question was... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 26 16:08:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54E0ADDF4C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:08:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DCC01F02 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ajqlS-0003qm-Nh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:08:39 +0100 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:08:38 +0100 Received: from gyliamos by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:08:38 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: Re: how to downgrade X server Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 68 Message-ID: References: <56F60B8D.8080900@ShaneWare.Biz> Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:08:43 -0000 Shane Ambler wrote: > On 26/03/2016 04:22, Will Parsons wrote: >> I purposely held off on upgrading the to new X server for over a year >> now for fear of breakage, but yesterday I upgaded to the latest Xorg >> server along with the associated video and input drivers and am left >> with a black screen upon starting the X server. > > Why did you expect it to break? do you need an older nvidia driver that > is not supported in xorg 1.14+ A general fear that a major change would be dangerous, which was apparently well-justified, since when i actually did attempt to 'upgrade' I am left will an unusable system. >> Since I can't figure out how to solve the problem, I'd simply like to >> go back to the previously installed software, but the documentation is >> unclear on how to do so. I have the saved versions of the previous >> packages in /usr/ports/packages, but doing the naive (and apparently >> incorrect): >> >> # pkg install /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. >> All repositories are up-to-date. >> pkg: /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1.tbz is not a valid >> package: >> no manifest found >> pkg: No packages available to install matching >> '/usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1' have been found in the repositories >> >> It should be possible to re-install from the saved packages, right? >> But how? > > That package would be from the old package system. It would mean > removing the newer pkg to install it. Though you should be able to untar > it into place, after removing the existing xorg, which would also > uninstall dependant ports... So, there'e no easy way to recover, then, and these saved ports are essentially useless? > The problem with xorg, is knowing what versions work together, by > installing an older xorg you may break the newer input-mouse or libGL... > > The only reliable way I would expect to work constantly would be to use > an old ports tree with the versions you want, each port in the tree > would also match up with the same version. > > Looking through the svn logs, revision 374489 updated xorg to 1.12.4 > which includes security fixes that aren't being back ported to 1.7.7 so > xorg 1.7 gets marked as forbidden. (WITH_NEW_XORG is needed to build > 1.12 otherwise 1.7.7 is bult) The next commit removed 1.7 completely > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=374489 > > If you do want to go back to 1.7.7 then you could checkout an svn > revision of 374489 or less than 374982 and use that ports tree to build > your own ports. What I *want* is a usable system, and I'm now faced with being stuck after making an apparently unwise decision to upgrade an important working component of my system. Doing a complete reinstall is *not* something I want to do, but sounds like it might be easier than going through convolutions to get back to where I was. (Seriously, the new pkg system doesn't have a way to undo disasters like this?) -- Will