Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:58:48 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig@spymac.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Kevin Smith <smithcam@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: cvsup newbie questions Message-ID: <200412171458.49058.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <41C34B76.10402@adelphia.net> References: <41C34B76.10402@adelphia.net>
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On Friday 17 December 2004 01:11 pm, Kevin Smith <smithcam@adelphia.net> wrote: > I'm interested in upgrading to gnome 2.8 (and possibly the newer > releases of other applications)...I'm running the following version > of freebsd: > > 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 > root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > In starting to learn cvsup, I'm trying to figure out what I need. > > The "src-all" collection seems like it is more than I want to update. > Freebsd seems to be working fine on my system and I don't think that > I want to upgrade any kernel or OS-related programs unless any > applications that I would want depend on it. Most of your questions have already been answered, but I thought it might be worth emphasizing a couple of things. First, unless you know exactly why you want to update only part of your sources, and you know exactly what those sources contain, then it's probably best to update all your sources. This is because a buildworld or build kernel could fail if you only update part of your sources and there are old versions of other files hanging around, or it could cause other issues even if it builds and installs. > So, if I am just interested in the latest fixes/version for > applications running on 5.3-Release, should I just upgrade the ports > collection ? No, the ports collection is the collection of 3rd-party apps' Makefiles and patches - it just simplifies installing applications. To accomplish what you want, you should cvsup src-all with RELENG_5_3: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html , which, after a complete build, installworld and kernel: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html , should bring you up to patchlevel 2. This would be a good idea in general, as vulnerabilities in fetch and procfs have been fixed (you can subscribe to security alerts here: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security-notifications ). You can also customize your kernel config file before you do this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > There is an example supfile in > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile. Would this be the best > configuration to use ? You should use that for updating your ports tree, which you can or should do before upgrading and/or installing apps. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html You can also install apps the "traditional" way, but the ports system is fairly reliable, although it has its quirks (which is to be expected with 12,000+ port entries). > Also, when I do upgrade the ports tree, I'm assuming it will just > upgrade the skeleton tree, correct ? Right, and the Makefiles and patches, but not the sources. Those can be fetched by themselves with various installation switches, and that's also done automatically when compiling and installing apps through ports. > Even if I do upgrade "src-all", > its not going to down load the .tar files for all the source code ? It will download all the source code for FreeBSD, which you should do if you're going to rebuild for an update. You can keep it there afterwards for future upgrades or refinements (in /usr/src) unless space is a serious consideration. - jt
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