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Date:      Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:36:09 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <chad@shire.net>
Cc:        Justin Mason <jm@jmason.org>, User Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique?
Message-ID:  <20070311193608.GA92584@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net>
References:  <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net>

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On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:41:48PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
> 
> On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Justin Mason wrote:
> 
> >
> >for what it's worth, I would suggest *not* adopting this
> >as an anti-spam technique.
> >
> >Sender-address verification is _bad_ as an anti-spam technique, in my
> >opinion.  Basically, there's one obvious response for spammers  
> >looking to
> >evade it -- use "real" sender addresses. Where's an easy place to find
> >real addresses? On the list of target addresses they're spamming!
> 
> This is a red-herring.  They already do that.  They have been doing  
> that for a long time.  And it has nothing to do with sender  
> verification.
> 
> Sender verification works and works well.

I hate sender verification because it forces me (the sender) to jump
through hoops just for the privilege of sending email to you.  I send
a lot of "courtesy" emails to e.g. port maintainers who have problems
with their ports, and when I encounter someone with such a system I
usually don't bother following up (their port just gets marked broken
in the usual way, and they can follow up on it on their own if they
want to).

Kris



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