From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 21 20:48:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27737 for current-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 20:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from androcles.com (androcles.com [204.57.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27729; Wed, 21 May 1997 20:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dhh@localhost) by androcles.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id UAA17708; Wed, 21 May 1997 20:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:22:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Duane H. Hesser" To: Cat Okita Subject: Re: usregsite.com Cc: jmb@hub.freebsd.org, current@hub.freebsd.org, "Jonathan M. Bresler" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 21-May-97 Cat Okita wrote: >On Wed, 21 May 1997, Duane H. Hesser wrote: >> Not in my opeinion...in fact, you CAN'T be over-zealous in this regard. >> Nice to know that someone's keeping watch. Thanks. > >I strongly disagree with you. As a large NSP, having to constantly call >people and say "Hi, you were over-zealous, stop blocking our domain" is > ...[snip] > >I hope that you can see my point here... > >OTOH, I don't advocate spammers, just not throwing the baby out with the >bathwater... > >Cat Okita >Systems Administrator, UUNET Canada > I certainly DO see your point, and I thank you for making it. I have received several spam messages in the past few weeks through the freebsd mailing lists, and the intent of my message was to notify the fellow that at least ONE user of the list appreciates that someone is watching. I don't think his action was in the least out of line, under the circumstances. I (continue to) hope that my message will encourage him not to slack off attention. The vermin who prey on the net certainly won't. I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater...but it may be, considering the extraordinary aggressivness of the [insert pejorative here] that the best we can do is strap her securely in the basinet. I can easily sympathize with your position; in the past I've held numerous admin positions in Unix environments, and I can imagine the problems you must face. Nonetheless, I can point out that at least service providers are being PAID for your trouble; the rest of us must simply waste the lion's share of our available time trying to deal with the problem when we would like to be using our systems for things that interest us. It does not escape my attention, either, that my simple little home system could be forged at some jerk's whim, and I would be in the same position that you decribed. Could happen...and I would not be amused. I have a good deal more to say on the subject (because it's part of a much larger problem that grieves me), but I'll spare you. In any case, anyone who would block a "uunet" site is a nit... --------------- Duane H. Hesser dhh@androcles.com