From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 17:26:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7939E8BA; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sjg@juniper.net) Received: from exprod7og126.obsmtp.com (exprod7og126.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFC98FC08; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob126.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUIrHoZaLXQRTnorFgDQo67a4+/8ZlnKQ@postini.com; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:25:59 PDT Received: from magenta.juniper.net (172.17.27.123) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:21:07 -0700 Received: from chaos.jnpr.net (chaos.jnpr.net [172.24.29.229]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id q9QHL6h59895; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjg@juniper.net) Received: from chaos.jnpr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chaos.jnpr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA86458094; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:21:06 -0700 (PDT) To: Warner Losh Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program In-Reply-To: <37989A40-4DBD-48C8-BD65-16C7C41454B6@bsdimp.com> References: <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net> <20121025225353.86DA658094@chaos.jnpr.net> <20121026050130.GL35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20121026062356.3143A58094@chaos.jnpr.net> <37989A40-4DBD-48C8-BD65-16C7C41454B6@bsdimp.com> Comments: In-reply-to: Warner Losh message dated "Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:27:06 -0600." From: "Simon J. Gerraty" X-Mailer: MH-E 7.82+cvs; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 22.3.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:21:06 -0700 Message-ID: <20121026172106.BA86458094@chaos.jnpr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Konstantin Belousov , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:26:00 -0000 On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:27:06 -0600, Warner Losh writes: >And we've had the :U and :L for a similar period of time as well. = Sorry, I didn't mean to imply age has anything to do with it. The doc I refered to makes it clear that the two sets of conflicting modifers were introduced at about the same time. >Why can't there be a make target that turns them on in FreeBSD compat = >mode. You could then just drop those into bsd.port.mk and be done with = Because then you would lose the functionality that the alternative modifiers provide. Imagine throwing away the ability in /bin/sh to do ${foo:-bar} Also it would perpetuate the divergence in syntax for little reason. BTW there are currently < 300 makefiles in ports/ affected by the transition to bmake, and there were an even smaller number in src/.