From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 15:21:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EB99F18 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22f.google.com (mail-qa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBE7C2197 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i13so5294839qae.34 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:21:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4L45ojZOecJLhjGNEdm+XwWampnyXwxS5p1Z3lXtnlo=; b=DGOab8HPu7KKP3u4TsXI6jVIBU0NGFISD4o8s9TgwNIOKPNN7vK116jPb1UUFeCFPQ wSBqd1s7tkMbONQpd6F+BY2lMjp5EHn35gBxMVlqfRy3EE80R1F+Ebxm6TtaFFAlkef6 W8R6OARwusBeaX8XSfzm/8H3GVvjYomjHzpkZy6YmIwIcyiyVm2oUF7H4SvFA2dStATh Snd4tQ2Y5pz707TY0VgbL5uYD/CBDTmt2cb5wsXh7yuleEFCCddsQqDowO93SedRgMuS /VqyIyJ0ID0hf4x5ux5CULWFCHIVm3ZnpIPbNYJjR9XLj6Sg1b/d2O4H5FOujEUor1X7 ZsOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.171.197 with SMTP id i5mr44730793qaz.55.1405956096702; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.1.6 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> <53CA2D39.6000204@sasktel.net> <20140720123916.GV96250@e-new.0x20.net> <20140720134133.1d30f725@kan> <20140720201251.3bdd2226.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:21:36 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nsXfV7Tkdgrcj23RToTUf0eh4uI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ? From: Adrian Chadd To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Odhiambo Washington , User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:21:38 -0000 On 21 July 2014 01:51, krad wrote: > Thats a terrible argument. What you are suggesting is there should never be > any kind of open discussion of ideas which is fundamental to opensource > software > There can be an open discussion about what you want but just keep in mind that making work for others is reasonably frowned upon. As I've said - if someone wants to port the updated pf to freebsd-head and go through the process of owning it, then please, do the work. Noone is going to stop you doing that. The kernel is in a much better state now for maintaining multiple packet filters and it's entirely possible to run this as a project where you build it and the tools as an external module that'll compile for both freebsd-head and freebsd-10. You don't have to have a debate bout it. Just do it. :) -a