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Date:      Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:44:08 +0200
From:      Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.bawue.com>
To:        Andrew Pantyukhin <infofarmer@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/games/ppracer Makefile pkg-descr
Message-ID:  <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com>
In-Reply-To: <cb5206420706150755w561da70ei8ae7dc21809cdc37@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <200706151319.l5FDJ3ZT002340@repoman.freebsd.org> <cb5206420706150625h1554d0blabda24b04f50a626@mail.gmail.com> <20070615135952.GE19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <cb5206420706150755w561da70ei8ae7dc21809cdc37@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 06:55:20PM +0400, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
>  On 6/15/07, Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.bawue.com> wrote:
> > Andrew, please stop sending such kind of comments to
> > ports-committers@ alias, in this case it really should be sent
> > privately.  But, frankly speaking, even if I get it privately, I'd
> > smile.  You should really *think* before you mail your comments to
> > ports-committers list, these above comments are inappropriate here.
> >
> > Please move all you technical items for commits whether to ports@
> > and discuss it there, or privately, depending how *important* is
> > your comment.  Inserting the coins for every commit and do it in
> > ports-committers@ is not what I expected while discussing technical
> > review explanations.
> 
>  I'm the one who sends most messages, but this is not
>  a one-man effort. Many people read them, some comment
>  on them - and we all learn. And this is the point:
>  making committers aware of the amount of problems in
>  our commits, discussing them together. I'm not an
>  automated process, we must all learn from each other's
>  mistakes, broadcasted to a list, because we just don't
>  have enough human resources for private lessons.

Sorry, but it's high level crap to discuss here stuff like Approved
by: "pointyhat via kris", "pointyhat", "portsmon via linimon" or
just "portsmon".  I don't want to see here the "yet another policy
and discussion how to write Approved by: line", should I write pav@
or just pav, "via" kris or just kris.  Andrew, I'm just repeating,
these are crap comments and they shouldn't belong to
ports-committers list.

>  As for the mailing-list, I think ports-committers is
>  the most appropriate one because this is primarily an
>  inter-committer process. 

You can't even really imagine how many users read ports-committers
list just to know the changes in the ports tree.  They're not
interested in the above notes.  So, please respect our users as well
and don't think only about committers guys.

>  Also I think ports@ is inappropriate since it's largely
>  user-oriented, and they don't need to be exposed to this.

-Kirill



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