From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jun 8 13:21:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5BF32F709 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 13:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49gYmR3KsWz4Txp for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 13:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.139.252]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D0834E656; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 08:21:10 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <20200608050415.GA92414@geeks.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 08:21:08 -0500 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <20200608051434.ca70e5c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200608050415.GA92414@geeks.org> To: Doug McIntyre X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49gYmR3KsWz4Txp X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.29 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.139.252:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.01)[-0.011]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.15)[-0.155]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.14)[-0.140]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 13:21:12 -0000 > On Jun 8, 2020, at 12:04 AM, Doug McIntyre wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 12:08:13PM +0800, Wesley wrote: >> On 2020/6/8 =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=88 11:14, Polytropon wrote: >>> In an attempt to summarize, all the BSDs can be >>> used for almost everything - from embedded, to laptops, desktops, >>> servers, and "combined forms". In reality, you_will_ find BSDs >>> in all those places, and you will also find them in places where >>> you don't know there is a BSD running, for example in routers, >>> managed switches, NAS, WLAN APs, firewall and other networking >>> appliances. They are also used as development platforms for a >>> lot of other systems. >>=20 >> And, do you know if there is a mobile OS powered by BSD? >=20 > Not per-se, but Apple took many parts of BSD > into Darwin, which forms the basis of iOS for all their devices. >=20 > Ie. https://opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-6153.81.5/bsd/ >=20 > So you could say a bit of BSD is in quite a lot of mobile devices. MacOS departs farther and farther away from BSD=E2=80=A6 so some time = ago I scratched MacOS from my list of =E2=80=9CUNIXes=E2=80=9D. = Administering server on MacOS became unbearable for me. I still tell all = Mac laptop owners: the beauty of MacOS is that you have nice GUI, and = UNIX under the hood. Disclaimer: majority of systems I have in my list of UNIXes strictly = speaking can not be called UNIX, as they do not pay loyalties for that = name to AT&T. Valeri=