From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 23:39:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA15B103B3A4; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d12:604::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 401067241B; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w67NdU9X049049 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:39:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: imp@bsdimp.com Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w67NdJEU011208 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 8 Jul 2018 06:39:19 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: svn commit: r335916 - head/sys/conf To: Warner Losh References: <201807032305.w63N5guY063293@repo.freebsd.org> <20180704142233.GB5562@kib.kiev.ua> <6e5bc5e4-052c-877f-1c36-c72e276ff045@FreeBSD.org> <20180705155417.GI5562@kib.kiev.ua> <2a5b1c50-0f50-bbe1-4fcd-b98f61d24571@FreeBSD.org> <5B3EA725.4010202@grosbein.net> <1dd03d43-6f0d-580b-fd3b-f4494da42c70@FreeBSD.org> <51ec1e54-c940-9800-5c84-0f9b6e08895f@cs.duke.edu> <5B412CEF.3020901@grosbein.net> Cc: Andrew Gallatin , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <5B414F22.4030501@grosbein.net> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 06:39:14 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, LOCAL_FROM, RDNS_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 1.9 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on hz.grosbein.net X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 23:39:48 -0000 08.07.2018 4:38, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 4:14 PM Eugene Grosbein > wrote: > > 07.07.2018 22:02, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > One thing that was tangentially brought up is that the ability > > to compile out-of-tree modules requires keeping the kernel-headers > > around. So we may need to identify all the headers that a module might > > need, and install them in /boot/$KERNEL/sys or some-such. This would > > be needed if, for example, we wanted to install a new Nvidia or Virtual > > Box module and have it work for older installed kernel versions too > > (eg, across ABI breaking changes in -current). > > We already have all headers in /usr/include, don't we? > > > Not really. We have a subset of the kernel headers that might not match the running kernel, nor be enough to build modules. They should match running kernel definitely as we do not support not syncronized kernel/world and installworld populates /usr/include. And why a subset? Don'we support old-style kernel re-build "config; make depend; make" that does not require full /usr/src tree but /usr/src/sys only?