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Date:      Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:25:49 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.cpu.mk bsd.dep.mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.sys.mk src/sys/conf files kern.mk kern.pre.mk kmod.mk src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm Makefile
Message-ID:  <20040318182549.GB73484@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 01:12:38PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:28:27 -0800
> "David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > Just to be clear -- I'm not against supporting a 2nd compiler in /usr/src
> 
> Then why voice any opinion at all?

To inform everyone the issues of using the Intel compilers.


> > at all.  Just don't think Intel is the most gracious compiler vendor.
> 
> Oh, because you don't like Intel?  I agree that they're greedy, but
> that shouldn't really ...

I don't like monopolies, and even more I don't like monopolistic strangle
hold behavior.  Competition should be based on merit in a level playing
field, not back stabbing.


> > I'll also strongly push back on ever using 'icc' as part of the release
> > build.
> 
> push back a release build.  Are you worried that the 'rumors?' of
> better, more optimized binaries going to hurt the AMD effort?

Binaries that wouldn't run on a huge porition of our userbase isn't
'optimized' in my book.  If Intel had the better performance they'd be
WANTING you to run 'icc' produced binaries on AMD to show how much better
Intel performs.  That isn't the case, so they fixed it so you can't
directly compare.

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)



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