From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Feb 1 17:07:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16821 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:07:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16815 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:07:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09326; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:07:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd009194; Mon Feb 1 18:07:40 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01863; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:07:23 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199902020107.SAA01863@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: From Slashdot... To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:07:23 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, scrappy@hub.org, jcwells@u.washington.edu, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <80502.917844759@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 31, 99 08:52:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Now that Microsoft is pushing NT hard for the server market, where > > will UNIX go next, when they give that up? > > I don't have any intention of giving that market up. NT is something > that it's possible to fight on the server, as hard as that might be, > whereas it's almost impossible to fight on the desktop. As I said, > the apps just aren't there on the desktop. On the server, we have > Apache, nntp, sendmail and numerous other free utilities to round out > a pretty reasonable looking functionality picture. But do you have the license server that makes Office 2000 work the 51st time you run Word? > There's no issue here of "yielding power" or an unwillingness to do so > impeding the efforts of advocates. Any "power" that the various > techies in core do yield is purely in the technical arena and, if > anything, there's not a whole lot of attention focused on PR in core > at all. There's some, not to sell short the efforts of those in core > who've gone off to give speaches or otherwise push the product, but > it's hardly the principal objective of core's technically-focused > group of developers and hence they're not likely to stand in the way > of the non-technical folks. That's kind of the point... you ought to add a marketroid to the core team. Right now, the directonal control is entirely technical. > If you've seen problems in getting non-technical people involved and > concluded that this has somehow come about through their efforts being > blocked by power-brokers, then that conclusion is wholly erroneous and > in need of a serious re-think. Heh. Sorry; despite what people say, you don't really qualify as a marketroid. 8-) 8-). > We barely have time to "manage" the technical contributions we > receive much less the non-technical ones and if you're keen to help > then by all means, take a few of the non-technical types under your > ing and show them what to do! Being non-technical, many of them are > rather lost here and need pointers on how and where they can make a > contribution. Well, you need a non-techincal contribution manager on -core; I probably wouldn't qualify, both politically, and because I'm not that capable a marketroid. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message