From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Feb 4 0:25:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12237B401; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (external.osdn.org.ua [212.40.34.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D9943F3F; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:25:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h148PXWK071152; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:25:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h148PVpS071151; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:25:31 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:25:31 +0200 From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: Robert Watson Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Rahul Siddharthan , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object Message-ID: <20030204082531.GA36473@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Robert Watson! On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:41:33PM -0500, you wrote: > > > [why was Matt Dillon's commit bit removed] > > > > Short version: there was a difference of opinions. > > I think there should be "short version", but that this is not quite it. > > The short of it is that Matt was unable to treat many of his fellow > developers with the civility and respect that they deserve. The FreeBSD I really don't care how and how much were hurt feeling of any FreeBSD developer by any offending actions of Matt, but I do care what he did and (hopefully) will do for FreeBSD project. In areas were most of you are not interested even if we (users) interested, Matt helped a lot. I repeat: I don't care for your personal feelings, I do care for what Matt really did. > Project attempts to foster a productive environment for development; sure, > as with any online community, it's going to have its share of > disagreements and occasional flames. It's hard to imagine any e-mail list > without occasional fiery and enthusiastic disagreement. However, there > are times when individuals may step beyond the scope of what is considered > reasonable, expected, or acceptable. Obviously, this is subject to > interpretation and debate, but I'd ask that those passing judgement on > this action take into account that this was given long and hard > consideration, and that it was not a decision taken lightly or without > regret. I can repeat another my statement: remove obrien@'s commit bit. With the same reason. I don't think that you will. -- NEVE-RIPE, will build world for food Ukrainian FreeBSD User Group http://uafug.org.ua/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message