From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Mar 5 10:49:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0FA37B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:49:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24542; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:47:43 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:47:25 -0700 To: Rahul Siddharthan From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Cc: Trent Waddington , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , David Johnson , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010305004222.00cfe2a0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010303132348.04461420@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305004222.00cfe2a0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:49 AM 3/5/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: >They not only did not try to stop it, they allowed fans to plug their >equipment into their soundboards. Yes, they did. Considering that the band made a lot of money from concerts and bootlegs were being made anyway, this actually increased their concert revenues. >> But they NEVER tolerated trading of copies of their published albums.) > >True. I'm not sure what Barlow's stand is on that today -- but he >nly wrote lyrics to a smallish minority of their songs. Also true. Barlow seems not to realize that his status as an object of worship is a matter of sheer luck.... There are plenty of lyricists who are as good or better who just didn't happen to know a member of the Grateful Dead from high school. >I would >argue, though, that back in the 1960s and 1970s people weren't so >worried that this whole IP thing is getting out of control. Today, >when you have a situation where doctors can actually patent surgical >techniques and then sue other doctors for using those techniques to >treat patients, many people feel emboldened to take a much more >aggressive stance against intellectual property in general. What we have is a war that is escalating on BOTH sides. Many people who never worried about protecting their intellectual property are now under siege by the followers of Stallman and feel that they have to take extreme measures. Again, we need to broker a new and lasting peace. But Stallman, Barlow, and others are selfishly trying to instigate, and then take advantage of, a war. Hence the Richard III analogy. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message