From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 11:00:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EB916A4D6; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from tog.net (tog.net [216.89.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA4C43D53; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:00:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ender@tog.net) Received: by tog.net (Postfix, from userid 96) id 2C2F129B61D; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from tog.net (host-216-89-225-139.terranova.net [216.89.225.139]) by tog.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A130629B614; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:00:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4059F314.90004@tog.net> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:05:56 -0500 From: Ender User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes References: <200403122136.i2CLaCm9096276@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040315033213.GA40858@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040315180324.0fa39609@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20040318002208.GC2541@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040318162358.3f57aef3@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20040318172827.GB41559@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040318131238.12142bf1@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20040318131238.12142bf1@localhost> X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=7.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63-terranovanet_v5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-terranovanet_v5 (2004-01-11) on spamsmacker.terranova.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Alexander Leidinger cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.cpu.mk bsd.dep.mk bsd.lib.mkbsd.sys.mksrc/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm Makefile X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:00:36 -0000 Tom Rhodes wrote: >On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:28:27 -0800 >"David O'Brien" wrote: > > > >>Just to be clear -- I'm not against supporting a 2nd compiler in /usr/src >> >> > >Then why voice any opinion at all? > > > >>at all. Just don't think Intel is the most gracious compiler vendor. >> >> > >Oh, because you don't like Intel? I agree that they're greedy, but >that shouldn't really ... > > > >>I'll also strongly push back on ever using 'icc' as part of the release >>build. >> >> > >push back a release build. Are you worried that the 'rumors?' of >better, more optimized binaries going to hurt the AMD effort? > > > Your comments are a lot more biased than the original comments. It has already been shown that the intel compiler "advantages" run exactly the same on a AMD cpu. (after forcing the changes to ignore the cpu type) It has also been stated that a company is in full right to apply whatever advantages to there product they see fit, and i agree. I also believe that if we are going to support a change that clearly gives advantages to one cpu type, we should spend a equal amount of time supporting advantages to all specific cpu types. ( the EFER.NXE in the FreeBSD/amd64 loader for example)