From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 23 20:47:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6809242671A for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 20:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "www.holgerdanske.com", Issuer "www.holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BxVbZ0q4rz4LRG for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 20:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:47:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Regarding your case number 10724899 [ ref:_00D00hhzl._5004V11emZL:ref ] To: "discsupport@seagate.com" References: Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, license-violation@fsf.org, antitrust.complaints@usdoj.gov From: David Christensen Message-ID: <62d649ba-3211-bd21-21af-705df0a5f3a3@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:46:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BxVbZ0q4rz4LRG X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.55 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.706]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.81)[0.814]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.46)[-0.455]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 20:47:07 -0000 On 2020-09-23 07:28, discsupport@seagate.com wrote: > Hello David Christensen, > > Welcome to Seagate Support, my name is Arianett and it is my pleasure to assist you today with your Seagate Video 3.5. As I understand, you want an image file of SeaTools Bootable to be used on a Linux. Please know that it is my goal to make you a very satisfied customer. > > At Seagate, we are highly specialized in technical support for drives which are used in Windows and Macintosh Operating Systems. However, sometimes, there are customers who use Unix/Linux OS and ask for support from us, nevertheless, the Linux Operating Systems are highly malleable with drivers and applications that have no customization boundaries. For these reasons, Seagate offers no technical support for drives under Linux Operating System. We apologize for not being equipped to handle these cases.  We always recommend to use Seatools on Windows. > > To ensure we're providing the best support possible we will rely on your feedback as confirmation whether your issue has been resolved or if there is still assistance needed to find a solution. > > Regards, > Arianett > Seagate Support > > > ref:_00D00hhzl._5004V11emZL:ref Why have you not included my original request, as entered into your web form? Your response, and my response, are therefore taken out of context. I asked that you make Seagate SeaTools Bootable available in binary image format. While I specifically mentioned Linux, BSD, and Unix, the binary image format is a defacto standard, neutral, and non-proprietary format that is compatible with all operating systems (including Windows and Macintosh). Seagate SeaTools Bootable is based upon TinyCore Linux, which is released under the GNU General Public License, version 2 (GPL v2). By redistributing TinyCore Linux, you are required by the GPL v2 to make the source code of TinyCore Linux available. Where is the source code? Other software included in Seagate SeaTools Bootable may fall under the GPL v2. If so, you are required to make that source code available. Where is the source code? By supporting only Windows and Macintosh operating systems, and by denying support for all other operating systems, Seagate may be in violation of United States of America anti-trust laws. Finally, I presume that you believe you have fulfilled the letter of the law (and, no, I am not going to read 109 pages of mixed legalese and techno babble): http://support.seagate.com/seachest/SeaChest_Combo_UserGuides.html I request that you to fulfill the intent of the law by making a binary image of Seagate SeaTools Bootable available on your support web site. Sincerely yours, David Christensen Tracy, California, USA dpchrist@holgerdanske.com cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org license-violation@fsf.org antitrust.complaints@usdoj.gov