From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 10 18:03:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3913F3BC2 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qk0-x230.google.com (mail-qk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4BA97B2 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by qkcl188 with SMTP id l188so28743394qkc.1 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D2O/6pdx0NUs/hakc9ayALTpdzvuVjaglLbnVR5liww=; b=ph6DkYfKDwSsRvMGN7jM8JLf3WXhW31UYoAiJA2c5z0e187mIeDxyIWhMo+ELNx1n0 +HECnEry9MI6Z5N/Zxqg1cjg39aRG9VmWEakfi3AiIZjpf2P7WlTYVmT2MMFAXY5Fs+j 2yZfAPeGlfamhLjli/9OJJW+FiRKivp9L4bno= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=D2O/6pdx0NUs/hakc9ayALTpdzvuVjaglLbnVR5liww=; b=K7599H2JVjkcVgykfVtLUCzfoLkOttOTeggUcaUN7UK/HQrzsxkALOqQdqkYXYKRVL zfiosZ5xNJk3zlHDdaqucpr1/J7KVhdG1exwvWC/JJD8jLHUhBi0SQsEKdYW6quy9e2P gI9wAAJO40WgCoC9LUXYDrdbNgoyg1QOo/5bqUTAxVcoCMlDllH+LUaK79AqptfRdCAJ wOU1+i6j2Amw6pna8QKXEHcw3cGKn0i9jMieNy+2d90gsgRp44J+u8pfkzJYplFc/6uO qTdtWazW4zxhdo1zG+JYNL1sX3Jc8HqWn3Lj4gU538Rmpi6FxAVKFXXN24hiV7ADjU+g L0fg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6Dlr0yaDVNvvvEhU2gGjtxKblG5n4OFSWKA7+ilAGhfeOCYWf90aBdTeGm/erxTU3yp67 X-Received: by 10.140.38.69 with SMTP id s63mr34844335qgs.10.1436551406663; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-28-112.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.28.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h3sm6156091qgh.22.2015.07.10.11.03.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3mSj0Y1TkWz3DljQ for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:03:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:03:24 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: Microsoft Now OpenBSD Foundation Gold Contributor Message-ID: <20150710140324.362fd648@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <33650.128.135.70.2.1436549147.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <559FF775.7030204@mgm51.com> <33650.128.135.70.2.1436549147.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:03:28 -0000 On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:25:47 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev stated: > On Fri, July 10, 2015 11:48 am, Mike wrote: > > On 7/10/2015 12:43 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > >> I wonder why they choose OpenBSD over FreeBSD? > >> > >> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150708134520&mode=expanded&count=27 > > > > Probably is related to: > > > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150603090420 > > With all my scepticism I would more consider that as an excuse, implying > the reason may be something like this: > > http://slashdot.org/story/10/12/15/004235/FBI-Alleged-To-Have-Backdoored-OpenBSDs-IPSEC-Stack > > (I didn't say exactly this, I said something like this...) So, I'm > actually quite happy they didn't choose FreeBSD ;-) Sorry but that is impossible. Many eyes makes FOSS software invulnerable to this sort of attack? Or, at least that is what fools like to believe. Say any lie enough times and some moron will believe it. -- Jerry