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Date:      Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:03:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm)
Cc:        asami@cs.berkeley.edu, asami@freefall.cdrom.com, CVS-commiters@freefall.cdrom.com, cvs-ports@freefall.cdrom.com
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/noweb/work/contrib/norman/numarkup Makefile numarkup.aux numarkup.bbl numarkup.nw
Message-ID:  <199508081703.KAA04182@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SV4.3.91.950808195403.4978j-100000@haywire.DIALix.COM> from "Peter Wemm" at Aug 8, 95 07:58:33 pm

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> 
> On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote:
> >  *   Log:
> >  *   Argh!!!  I screwed up again!!!
> >  *   
> >  *   Sorry Rod, please delete these files from the Attic after a 24-hour
> >  *   grace period...(+_+;)....
> > 
> > In case you are all wondering where the heck all this junk came from,
> > my import threw up somewhere in work/ (because of permission problems
> > or something, the work/* files were owned by root) and didn't get to
> > send out the commit mail.
> > 
> > This is the file that is broken (it's empty):
> > -------
> > >> cvs update
> > cvs update: `/home/ncvs/ports/devel/noweb/work/contrib/partingr/addscore.nw,v' does not appear to be a valid rcs file
> > cvs update: nothing known about noweb/work/contrib/partingr/addscore.nw
> > -------
> > 
> > Rod, can you please delete it?  It's just a zero-length file but I
> > dare not touch the repository....
> 
> Hmm. If Rod has any sense, he's be asleep.. :-)
> 
> I removed it.. (fingers crossed) There didn't seem to be any point in 
> creating an Attic for it as it's bogus..

Just so some folks don't get suprised about Peters action here in the
repository, he is my understudy for providing more support in the area
of cvs repository management and has my approval to do these types of
emergency repairs.

I should still be the first line contact, but trust Peter's judgement
on doing things in there like this.

> Umm. did you panic and hit ^C during the import by any chance?

Hummm.. I would like to know this too.  As cvs should not have aborted
on it's own and not sent out the mail.  If it did we have a bug that
needs to get fixed some place.

> BTW, how long before that 24-hour grace period is up?

It really is a 72 hour grace period for most direct repository operations
(72 hours after being placed into the Attic that is).  No direct repository
operations should be done to files outside of the Attic as this can easily
screw some one over who happens to have the file checked out and active.

The reasoning I am using here is that if I place a file in the Attic, within
6 hours freefall will have removed it from /usr/src (or other auto updated
areas.)  Most other hosts at *.cdrom.com will have done it within 24 hours,
and most folks supping the cvs bits will have done it within 72 hours.  If
I don't wait this amount of time folks have cvs updates that could potential
fall over, which I know have happened in the past until I started using
the grace period (heck it happened to myself 3 or 4 times before I got
smarter about these things :-)).


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Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
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