From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 10 19:25:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C302216A4CE for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:25:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.dkm.cz (smtp.dkm.cz [62.24.64.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A743343D48 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:25:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@chello.cz) Received: (qmail 12081 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2004 19:25:20 -0000 Received: from r3al61.chello.upc.cz (HELO isis.wad.cz) (213.220.229.61) by smtp.dkm.cz with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 19:25:20 -0000 Received: by isis.wad.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3DB322FDA01; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:25:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:25:20 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Glenn Sieb Message-ID: <20040810192520.GB4929@isis.wad.cz> References: <1091989450.570.2.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20040808202351.GV87690@submonkey.net> <41168DF7.2090601@wingfoot.org> <4116906E.8060408@elvandar.org> <4116ED12.3000809@wingfoot.org> <20040810181651.GA4929@isis.wad.cz> <411916DB.3060307@wingfoot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <411916DB.3060307@wingfoot.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questionable statement in article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:25:22 -0000 # ges+lists@wingfoot.org / 2004-08-10 14:41:31 -0400: > Roman Neuhauser said the following on 8/10/2004 2:16 PM: > ># ges+lists@wingfoot.org / 2004-08-08 23:18:42 -0400: > >>I don't see development happening (other than system development, > >>such as the OS) happening in BSD. ^^^^^^ > > > > Apache, and other major software. > > Really? Hmm.. I never knew that Apache is developed for BSD. ^^^^^^^ > I thought it was developed for *nix and Windows... distributed as C > source so it could be compiled on your platform as needed. I don't > recall ever seeing a specific "BSD version' of Apache, other than the > fact that I've compiled the source or installed the port, which > essentially just compiles the source as well. What am I missing here? I see you mix "in BSD" with "for BSD" as you see fit for your argument. Yes, Apache *is* developed *in BSD*, besides other operating systems (and *for* BSD, besides other operating systems). Apache's AcceptFilter is AFAICT a FreeBSD-specific feature, which would even make it fit your slightly shifted definition ("developed *for* BSD). But you're missing the fact that you're changing the playground in the middle of the game. > The point I've been trying to make (and not many are getting yet) is the > simple fact that if I go to, say, Oracle's website... they're developing > in Linux. Specifically RedHat Enterprise. Not BSD of any flavor. > Veritas--Netware and Windows (shudder). Legato--Windows and various > Linuxes. Who is developing for BSD? Why aren't more doing so? What can > we do to get them to? Oh, here we're back at "develop in". You should have said in the previous mail that you "don't see Oracle, Legato, or Veritas development happening in BSD". Your previous statement implied much broader scope. -- FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE 8:57PM up 14:43, 5 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.01, 0.00