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Date:      Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:34:29 +0200
From:      Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.bawue.com>, Andrew Pantyukhin <infofarmer@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/games/ppracer Makefile pkg-descr
Message-ID:  <4672BF95.4080400@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070615161931.GB79551@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200706151319.l5FDJ3ZT002340@repoman.freebsd.org> <cb5206420706150625h1554d0blabda24b04f50a626@mail.gmail.com> <20070615135952.GE19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <cb5206420706150755w561da70ei8ae7dc21809cdc37@mail.gmail.com> <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <20070615161931.GB79551@FreeBSD.org>

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Alexey Dokuchaev escribió:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 05:44:08PM +0200, Kirill Ponomarew wrote:
>   
>>
>> Sorry, but it's high level crap to discuss here stuff like Approved
>> by: "pointyhat via kris", "pointyhat", "portsmon via linimon" or
>> just "portsmon".  I don't want to see here the "yet another policy
>> and discussion how to write Approved by: line", should I write pav@
>> or just pav, "via" kris or just kris.  Andrew, I'm just repeating,
>> these are crap comments and they shouldn't belong to
>> ports-committers list.
>>     
>
> Andrew is being perhaps overly pedantic here, but he's right in
> principal.  Consistency and standard conformance even in format of
> "Foobared by:" entries doesn't lower quality of our ports, does it?
>   
Yeah, rules, policies and consistency are the things, which makes things 
keep going frictionless.
>   
>>>  As for the mailing-list, I think ports-committers is
>>>  the most appropriate one because this is primarily an
>>>  inter-committer process. 
>>>       
>> You can't even really imagine how many users read ports-committers
>> list just to know the changes in the ports tree.  They're not
>> interested in the above notes.  So, please respect our users as well
>> and don't think only about committers guys.
>>     
>
> Kirill, those non-committers who read ports-committers@ are very likely
> to consider being a submitter (or even committer!) in the future.  In
> this case I find it useful if they learn most common mistakes *before*
> they start making them themselves.  This is one of rare cases when one
> can learn on others' mistakes as well (i.e., good) as on their own.
>
>   
There are no non-committers reading ports-committers. The 
ports-committers list is a private list for those ones, who are in 
CVSROOT/access for the ports repo. Similarly doc-committers and 
src-committers serve in the same way but for the doc and src repos.

I agree that all of us should learn from each other, thus the comments 
are useful and valuable. Even if one is not interested in the reaction 
for one's commit, one is responsible for the quality of one's work. It 
is not a rude criticism, just a helpful hand to make things better here, 
thus it should be interpreted in this way.

Cheers,

-- 
Gabor Kovesdan
FreeBSD Volunteer

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